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In a message dated 7/4/00 2:51:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jackson@...

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<< What do you think about regeneration/rejuvenation, etc.? Green foods?

Any special herbs, nutraceuticals? What things have the most

rejuvenative power?

J. >>

What herbs would have the rejuvenative power??????

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> the hearing will return as the nerves are regenerated.

>

Hi Saul (or anyone else),

What do you think about regeneration/rejuvenation, etc.? Green foods?

Any special herbs, nutraceuticals? What things have the most

rejuvenative power?

J.

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ALA... alpha lipoic acid has been documented in research studies to regenerate

peripheral and autonomic nerve tissue.

i even read an article in some american diabetes journal about the studies.

ALA is water and fat soluble and able to penetrate the blood-brain barrier. It

is commonly known as the universal antioxidant but its primary use by the body

is for glucose metabolism.

i have witnessed cases of chronic pain due to neuropathy in feet respond

extremely well (one case of diabetes comes to mind and a case of R.S.D.

....reflex sympathetic dystrophy also improved dramatically with alpha lipic

acid..)

jd

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> the hearing will return as the nerves are regenerated.

>

Hi Saul (or anyone else),

What do you think about regeneration/rejuvenation, etc.? Green foods?

Any special herbs, nutraceuticals? What things have the most

rejuvenative power?

J.

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Your body already has this mechanism. It's built in. It is

called

hGH (human growth hormone). As we age, it is one of the few

significant hormones that does not diminish production with age.

What happens is the production of GHRH (growth hormone releasing

hormone, the hormone responsible for triggering the release of

growth hormone) diminishes with age, so the hGH that our

pituitary

produces is not released. Same end effect, but a different

mechanism.

So, all that has to be done in a normal person is to trigger the

release of hGH. There are many substances that have been shown

to

trigger the secretion of hGH. They are called secretagogues.

There are many secretagogue concoctions on the market, most at

prices in the same range as growth hormone injections themselves,

but only a few claim to have been proven effective by blood

tests. This is a key point!

There are only a couple of tests that give one an idea of how

much hGFH the brain is releasing. The one that actually tests the

hGH released after a specific stimulus has to be done in a

hospital. The standard test in the longevity field is the blood

test for IGF-1 (insulin-like growth factor).

When considering regeneration or longevity, it is best to take a

base level blood test. They can be had for $49 from the right MD.

If the result is in a healthy level for your age, then

secretagogues are the first choice. My level, at 55, was that of

an 80-90 year old man, due to a childhood brain injury. My level

was so low it is considered disease-level. If I had gone through

the steps, I could have gotten my insurance to pay for it. But, I

don't have patience for that. So, I am taking the injections and

paying for them myself. I like having control over my life.

If you want REAL REGENERATION, then you have to go for the

injections. On average, after 2-3 years on the injections, the

organs, muscles & glands will have been so regenerated that the

dose has to be cut way back. The average dose for someone taking

this is 1 IU (international unit) daily.

Prior to about 9 years ago the only way to get this hormone was

from cadavers & cattle. It costs thousands a week & was

dangerous, due to strange diseases that showed up occasionally. I

wouldn't have been interested then. Now, they are manufactured by

recombinant techniques. They combined the DNA of anterior

pituitary cells with e. coli bacteria, and that little strain

they created punches out hGH all day long! There are now many

companies competing under license and the price for an IU is now

$11!!! So, if you can afford $77 a week plus about $350 for tests

and the doctor's phone consultation, you can go full boat! This

is NOT for everybody! But it is excellent for some!

The doctor I have is one of the best! His clinic is in Hilton

Head. He cares about people! You can even write him email

directly!!!!! You fill out a 10 page patient history (more than

any other doctor I've been to) and send in blood & saliva tests,

then you have a phone consultation. About 1/2 hour. There is no

real reason he HAS to see you in person. This therapy is

monitored by regular testing. You get both blood & saliva to

start, a single $49 blood test a 1, 6 & 12 months. At that point,

you don't need testing more than every 6 months if you are

stable.

If anyone wants to try one of these routes, I can direct them to

a fantastic price on a proven oral secretagogue or to my MD. This

doctor is also excellent for women with troublesome PMS or those

into/past menopause. The doctors in the longevity field take a

wholistic approach to hormone replacement. There is no one-size

fits all. In about 9 years on these protocols, there have been

fantastic results and NO scare stories. ANY scare story you hear

from ANYONE is old news from the past, before rHGH was developed.

(I have even had doctors who called themselves " experts " in this

field tell be total BS old news! My doc also uses vegetable

sources for hormones whenever possible.

There is a list for this topic on egroups. It is Rejuvenation.

jim J

jackson wrote:

the hearing will return as the nerves are regenerated.

Hi Saul (or anyone else),

What do you think about regeneration/rejuvenation, etc.? Green

foods?

Any special herbs, nutraceuticals? What things have the most

rejuvenative power?

J.

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A friend of mine who has had RSD for 9 years visited me recently.

She had not been able to touch her neck or ears on her left side

for that time, not even a sheet when in bed. She couldn't live in

a clod climate because she couldn't have a coat touching her

neck!

After 1 sixty minute treatment on the Chinese FIR lamp, she could

touch her ear without any pain. After two treatments she decided

to buy a lamp!

jim :)

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> i have witnessed cases of chronic pain due to neuropathy in feet respond

extremely well (one case of diabetes comes to mind and a case of R.S.D.

....reflex sympathetic dystrophy also improved dramatically with alpha lipic

acid..)

>

> jd

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Hi Jim,

Interesting info.--I had head injuries too. Not sure how much my brain

was affected by those. How about regeneration on the cheap? Without

tests, expensive injections, etc. I'm just thinking foods, herbs,

extremely reasonable nutraceuticals, etc. Something for the common man

(I don't work and my husband has a teacher's income, so I consider

myself that although to some people we'd be filthy rich). I'm kind of

into universal medicine that might work for someone in a third world

country, etc. J.

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There is a doctor online with a very fine newsletter. He also

sells the first good secretagogue, proven by bloodtests, at about

half what anybody else I've seen sells it for. His site is

www.RxforWellness.com and his email is drjmaher@...

He sells it for about $45 for a month's supply. Most sell it

about $90 for the same. It is called Pro hGH.

jim :)

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> Hi Jim,

>

> Interesting info.--I had head injuries too. Not sure how much my brain

> was affected by those. How about regeneration on the cheap? Without

> tests, expensive injections, etc. I'm just thinking foods, herbs,

> extremely reasonable nutraceuticals, etc. Something for the common man

> (I don't work and my husband has a teacher's income, so I consider

> myself that although to some people we'd be filthy rich). I'm kind of

> into universal medicine that might work for someone in a third world

> country, etc. J.

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We have Treated with much success RSD with HBOT,

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>jd,

>

>A friend of mine who has had RSD for 9 years visited me recently.

>She had not been able to touch her neck or ears on her left side

>for that time, not even a sheet when in bed. She couldn't live in

>a clod climate because she couldn't have a coat touching her

>neck!

>

>After 1 sixty minute treatment on the Chinese FIR lamp, she could

>touch her ear without any pain. After two treatments she decided

>to buy a lamp!

>

>jim :)

>

>jdklein wrote:

>>

>> i have witnessed cases of chronic pain due to neuropathy in feet respond

extremely well (one case of diabetes comes to mind and a case of R.S.D.

....reflex sympathetic dystrophy also improved dramatically with alpha lipic

acid..)

>>

>> jd

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My friend's mother had the same problem, but her problem was the entire

shoulder. I met her on Christmas day where she came in wearing no coat

and her shoulder completely exposed with her sweater pulled down to

touch only her arm on the affected side.

She eventually found relief from hyperbaric oxygen treatments. She told

me she had gone down to Florida for several treatments and was convinced

it wasn't working. In fact, her husband had gone out early in the

morning to get their plane tickets to return to New Jersey, when she

suddenly realized that for the first time in years she had been sleeping

on her back!

Lana

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> jd,

>

> A friend of mine who has had RSD for 9 years visited me recently.

> She had not been able to touch her neck or ears on her left side

> for that time, not even a sheet when in bed. She couldn't live in

> a clod climate because she couldn't have a coat touching her

> neck!

>

> After 1 sixty minute treatment on the Chinese FIR lamp, she could

> touch her ear without any pain. After two treatments she decided

> to buy a lamp!

>

> jim :)

>

> jdklein wrote:

> >

> > i have witnessed cases of chronic pain due to neuropathy in feet

respond extremely well (one case of diabetes comes to mind and a case of

R.S.D. ...reflex sympathetic dystrophy also improved dramatically with

alpha lipic acid..)

> >

> > jd

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How does one find HBO centers. I'm near Phila Pa.

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|We have Treated with much success RSD with HBOT,

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|>jd,

|>

|>A friend of mine who has had RSD for 9 years visited me recently.

|>She had not been able to touch her neck or ears on her left side

|>for that time, not even a sheet when in bed. She couldn't live in

|>a clod climate because she couldn't have a coat touching her

|>neck!

|>

|>After 1 sixty minute treatment on the Chinese FIR lamp, she could

|>touch her ear without any pain. After two treatments she decided

|>to buy a lamp!

|>

|>jim :)

|>

|>jdklein wrote:

|>>

|>> i have witnessed cases of chronic pain due to neuropathy in feet respond

|extremely well (one case of diabetes comes to mind and a case of R.S.D.

|...reflex sympathetic dystrophy also improved dramatically with alpha lipic

|acid..)

|>>

|>> jd

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>|>jd,

>|>

>|>A friend of mine who has had RSD for 9 years visited me recently.

>|>She had not been able to touch her neck or ears on her left side

>|>for that time, not even a sheet when in bed. She couldn't live in

>|>a clod climate because she couldn't have a coat touching her

>|>neck!

>|>

>|>After 1 sixty minute treatment on the Chinese FIR lamp, she could

>|>touch her ear without any pain. After two treatments she decided

>|>to buy a lamp!

>|>

>|>jim :)

>|>

>|>jdklein wrote:

>|>>

>|>> i have witnessed cases of chronic pain due to neuropathy in feet

respond

>|extremely well (one case of diabetes comes to mind and a case of R.S.D.

>|...reflex sympathetic dystrophy also improved dramatically with alpha

lipic

>|acid..)

>|>>

>|>> jd

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Matt,

There's one in Baltimore. It is listed at www.oxytherapy.com

under practitioners. I called them once and they charge $50, but

require a doctor's scrip.

jim :)

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> How does one find HBO centers. I'm near Phila Pa.

> Thanks,

> Matt

>

> |We have Treated with much success RSD with HBOT,

> |

> | Re: Nerve Regeneration

> |

> |

> |>jd,

> |>

> |>A friend of mine who has had RSD for 9 years visited me recently.

> |>She had not been able to touch her neck or ears on her left side

> |>for that time, not even a sheet when in bed. She couldn't live in

> |>a clod climate because she couldn't have a coat touching her

> |>neck!

> |>

> |>After 1 sixty minute treatment on the Chinese FIR lamp, she could

> |>touch her ear without any pain. After two treatments she decided

> |>to buy a lamp!

> |>

> |>jim :)

> |>

> |>jdklein wrote:

> |>>

> |>> i have witnessed cases of chronic pain due to neuropathy in feet respond

> |extremely well (one case of diabetes comes to mind and a case of R.S.D.

> |...reflex sympathetic dystrophy also improved dramatically with alpha lipic

> |acid..)

> |>>

> |>> jd

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We will soon be opening an HBO clinic near Fredericksburg, Va, half way

between Washington D. C. and Richmond. We already h; have a monoplace HBO

chamber and a Certified hyperbaric Technician . All we await is the arrival

of our doctor which should be in the next few weeks. Keep in touch; and

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Reillo does have a multiplace chamber in Baltimore. Dr. Bajwah and

Dr. Stauch have a monoplace chamber in ndale Va Phone 703 941 3606.

Dr. Stauch has been treating with HBO for nearly 20 years. Currently he is

recovering from a stroke and is using his chamber along with other patients

to regain full mobility of one hand and arm. My wife took 97 treatments with

Dr. Stauch but the distance from Fredericksburg and return got to much for

me and thus I am opening a clinic near Fredericksburg. Also, there is an HBO

capability in andria at Mt. Vernon Hospital but the HBO Director Dr.

Titus refused to treat my wife although she was only 8 days into her

stroke and a patient in the hospital. Dr. Titus said there was no scientific

basis for thinking HBO would help brain-damaged individuals such as stroke

victims.

Mt. Vernon Hospital only treats patients whose symptoms are covered in the

UHMS manual and those authorized by insurance companies and Medicare. At my

last count I believe there are 13 indications authorized by these agencies.

So does Richmond , Va have an HBO capability in one of its hospitals Thats

about it. for Virginia, until our clinic Bridge to Health opens in a few

weeks. As I said in an earlier message it is near Fredericksburg, Va.

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> > the hearing will return as the nerves are regenerated.

> Hi Saul (or anyone else),

............. What things have the most

> rejuvenative power?

> J.

Love.

Ozone in the ears and detox the colon with Homozon and get colon hydrotherapy.

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Tell me what time of what day. I live 30 minutes north or

Winchester, Va, so afternoons are best for me. But, I WANT an

HBOT as soon as I can get into one. And my girlfriend too! And

several friends!

I'll send my friends to your place. I have been telling them

about HBO for two year now. There are a lot of people with enough

sense to understand what HBOT can do! I can't imagine a human

dumb enough not to wish for their own HBOT chamber, much less

give it a try!

If you build it, I will be there! ;-))

JIM :)

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> of our doctor which should be in the next few weeks. Keep in touch; and

> we'll have a place for you. Manson

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Dear Jim,

I am keeping your post up front as the first to know. Currently I'm seeking

a temporary physician until my permanent choice can get here. I expect word

every day Also the CHT is getting the oxygen ordered and the plumbing, which

requires an oxygen plumbing specialist It may be that I'll bring a doctor

down from ndale for a few weeks, but currently that is my delay A

knowledgeable doctor is a requirement in my opinion. I know of some clinics

being run by highly trained RN's, but I want an MD to check out each patient

Delighted to hear you're getting em lined up. I think we can do 8 each day

and if numbers hold up I will be getting in another monoplace so we can

double that number. I'll keep you posted.

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Jim: i did not see this product on the RxforWellness.com site. perhaps i

missed it...

jd

is this a single chemical secretagogue you speak of? or another combination

product with everything from arginine to pituitary extracts and naturally

occuring dopamine from velvet bean or macuna extracts?

i have been waiting for a secretagogue i read about some time back with dozens

of studies to back it up in europe.... it was a single chemical that is

administered buccally i believe (perhaps inhaled through nose).

jd

Re: Nerve Regeneration

,

There is a doctor online with a very fine newsletter. He also

sells the first good secretagogue, proven by bloodtests, at about

half what anybody else I've seen sells it for. His site is

www.RxforWellness.com and his email is drjmaher@...

He sells it for about $45 for a month's supply. Most sell it

about $90 for the same. It is called Pro hGH.

jim :)

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> Hi Jim,

>

> Interesting info.--I had head injuries too. Not sure how much my brain

> was affected by those. How about regeneration on the cheap? Without

> tests, expensive injections, etc. I'm just thinking foods, herbs,

> extremely reasonable nutraceuticals, etc. Something for the common man

> (I don't work and my husband has a teacher's income, so I consider

> myself that although to some people we'd be filthy rich). I'm kind of

> into universal medicine that might work for someone in a third world

> country, etc. J.

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> Date: 07/06/2000 8:44:08 AM

> Subject: Re: Nerve Regeneration

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> Dear Jim,

>

> I am keeping your post up front as the first to know. Currently I'm

seeking

> a temporary physician until my permanent choice can get here. I expect

word

> every day Also the CHT is getting the oxygen ordered and the plumbing,

which

> requires an oxygen plumbing specialist It may be that I'll bring a doctor

> down from ndale for a few weeks, but currently that is my delay A

> knowledgeable doctor is a requirement in my opinion. I know of some

clinics

> being run by highly trained RN's, but I want an MD to check out each

patient

>

> Delighted to hear you're getting em lined up. I think we can do 8 each

day

> and if numbers hold up I will be getting in another monoplace so we can

> double that number. I'll keep you posted.

>

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jd,

Dr. Maher sells Pro hGH, or hGH Pro, I can never remember.

Anyway, he sells it for about $45 for a month's supply, whereas

most vendors charge over $90 for the same thing.

I was on his e-list for a long time and there were daily mails

talking about it. The URL for it is

http://www.rxforwellness.com/shoppingchannel/foundationalantiagingp_5.shtml

If you buy 3 & get one free for $180, that's $45 a month.

jim :)

jdklein wrote:

>

> Jim: i did not see this product on the RxforWellness.com site. perhaps i

missed it...

>

> jd

>

> is this a single chemical secretagogue you speak of? or another combination

product with everything from arginine to pituitary extracts and naturally

occuring dopamine from velvet bean or macuna extracts?

>

> i have been waiting for a secretagogue i read about some time back with dozens

of studies to back it up in europe.... it was a single chemical that is

administered buccally i believe (perhaps inhaled through nose).

>

> jd

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8:50 PM 7-7-2000, RealWort wrote:

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> FOR NERVE REGENERATION ... LEDT (LED THERAPY) OR LLLT (LOW LEVEL

> LASER THERAPY) IS THE BEST I'VE FOUND. .... EMAIL ME PERSONALLY

> ABOUT THE LASER STUFF IF YOU LIKE.

Hi,

I'm interested in finding a LLLT device for both shrinking

scar tissue, and regenerating the nerve in a Morton's neuroma

(which is a chronically pinched nerve between the toes).

My surgeon botched an excision (surgical removal) of a neuroma,

leaving excessive scar tissue that is impinging upon the nerve

which would normally grow back and reconnect after 1 - 2 years.

Do you know what infrared wavelengths are most effective for

nerve regeneration ? Also, do you perhaps know the wavelengths

that are effective for shrinking scar tissue (up to 1/2 inch deep) ?

And finally, do you know where I can obtain a LLLT device of

sufficient power, at a reasonable price ?

(An expensive LLLT device, available only to licensed veterinarians

and official medical trials, is the 'MicroLight 830' (830 nanometers

at 30 milliwatts, for over 1 inch of tissue penetration) -- a diode

laser manufactured by Laser Medics, Inc. of Missouri City, Texas --

phone 1-800-982-8438. )

Thanks in advance for any ideas.

Sincerely,

Bill Kingsbury

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It is apparent that you already have knowledge of lasers. I just healed

a tooth that had a chronic infection for over a year with a nine volt

battery, and 82 ohm resistor and an extra large 635 nm diode from radio

shack. I am impressed with it. it takes a bit longer than a laser but

is gentler and the body responds real well to it. 632 nm is the best

for regeneration. 4 or 5 joules is about optimum for lasers. With the

led I just use it twice a day for 5 minutes each time. It only costs

about 8 bucks to make one. If the led is smaller (as in the 632 nm

ones) use it longer. Twide a day for a week and then twice a week for a

month should do it. There is a 632 nm with built n transistor I used

that really spit out the high energy photons. I belong to the laser

list and you could ask there about lasers. I use 5 mw mostly. Theres

nothing for scar tissue except to sand it offf acouple of times anduse

vitamin e and aloe. Acupuncture techniques help soften it up but really

don't get rid of the look of the scar. Anyhhow thats what I did. Maybe

if you try it then please let me know how it worked ok? The guy who

told me about it in Australia would like to know this stuff. Thanks.

Be shure to wrap the leads in plastic spagetti and duct tape it. Simple

enough.

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Where is the laser list?

Is it about medical uses for lasers?

Where did you get the idea and plans for the LED you made?

THANKS!!

Dan

Re: nerve regeneration

> It is apparent that you already have knowledge of lasers. I just healed

> a tooth that had a chronic infection for over a year with a nine volt

> battery, and 82 ohm resistor and an extra large 635 nm diode from radio

> shack. I am impressed with it. it takes a bit longer than a laser but

> is gentler and the body responds real well to it. 632 nm is the best

> for regeneration. 4 or 5 joules is about optimum for lasers. With the

> led I just use it twice a day for 5 minutes each time. It only costs

> about 8 bucks to make one. If the led is smaller (as in the 632 nm

> ones) use it longer. Twide a day for a week and then twice a week for a

> month should do it. There is a 632 nm with built n transistor I used

> that really spit out the high energy photons. I belong to the laser

> list and you could ask there about lasers. I use 5 mw mostly. Theres

> nothing for scar tissue except to sand it offf acouple of times anduse

> vitamin e and aloe. Acupuncture techniques help soften it up but really

> don't get rid of the look of the scar. Anyhhow thats what I did. Maybe

> if you try it then please let me know how it worked ok? The guy who

> told me about it in Australia would like to know this stuff. Thanks.

> Be shure to wrap the leads in plastic spagetti and duct tape it. Simple

> enough.

>

>

>

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2:10 PM 7-9-2000, RealWort wrote:

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> It is apparent that you already have knowledge of lasers. I just

> healed a tooth that had a chronic infection for over a year with a

> nine volt battery, and 82 ohm resistor and an extra large 635 nm

> diode from radio shack. I am impressed with it. It takes a bit

> longer than a laser but is gentler and the body responds real well

> to it.

Thanks -- I have a need for one of these devices. Is the resistor

in parallel, or in series with the light-emitting diode ?

> 632 nm is the best for regeneration. 4 or 5 joules is

> about optimum for lasers. With the led I just use it twice a day

> for 5 minutes each time. It only costs about 8 bucks to make one.

> If the led is smaller (as in the 632 nm ones) use it longer. Twice

> a day for a week and then twice a week for a month should do it.

> There is a 632 nm with built in transistor I used that really spit

> out the high energy photons. I belong to the laser list and you

> could ask there about lasers. I use 5 mw mostly.

Please tell us how to find the laser list.

Also, could you describe the circuit used with the " 632 nm (led)

with built-in transistor " ? And what is its part number ?

> There's nothing for scar tissue except to sand it off a couple of

> times and use vitamin e and aloe. Acupuncture techniques help

> soften it up but really don't get rid of the look of the scar.

Actually, I've seen several articles describing clinical results

with softening and reducing both internal and surface scars, as

well as keloids, using infrared laser diode (LLLT) devices.

For example: " Miracle Healing With Photons "

http://www.humanitarian.com/only-7.html

I'll post this article separately.

> Anyhow thats what I did. Maybe if you try it then please let me

> know how it worked ok? The guy who told me about it in Australia

> would like to know this stuff. Thanks. Be shure to wrap the

> leads in plastic spagetti and duct tape it. Simple enough.

I'll be glad to let you know of my results, once I get

to that point. Thanks again.

Bill

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