Guest guest Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 On Jun 13, 2008, at 10:39 AM, <emhosdil@...> <emhosdil@...> wrote: > I recently had a routine blood screening, and as always my > cholesterol has come back rather low. Which cholesterol? LDL, HDL, Total? The stories about high cholesgterol being a problem are actually wrong. Low cholesterol can be a real problem. What the tests these days do not differentiate is whether your LDL cholesterol is oxidizing or not. It is only oxidizing cholesterol that is bad for you - though even that is not *directly* linked to heart damage - it has more to do with general lack of antioxidants and the effect of that on cells. The other part of LDL cholesterol is actually very good stuff - brain food, among other things. A better indicator than cholesterol for heart issues is C-reactive protein. If that's high, it's not good. Homocysteine is another indicator. But that is not going to solve your low chbolesterol issue. You can get nasty symptoms from low cholesterol, brain fog, among others. It happens a lot to people on cholesgterol lowering drugs (which help nothing and have bad side effects anyway). Eggs are a great source of healthy cholesterol, but you have a good point that you may have hormonal issues rather than dietary ones. Still, it can't help to add dietary extras from egg etc. It's telling that you crave the foods with cholesterol. I wonder is a good endocrinologist (like hen's teeth to find one though) can analyse the hormonal issues with an open mind instead of the usual closed-low-cholesterol-brainfog version of thought process. I would want top find out what's what in your shoes. I tried to see what i could find on PubMed (National Library of Medicine research archives) that may provide information - I fond nothing specific to your situation - but enough to suggest taking it seriously if you have low cholesterol - (called hypocholesterolaemia): ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Ann Clin Biochem. 1999 Sep;36 ( Pt 5):613-6. Hypocholesterolaemia in a hospital population. Crook MA, Velauthar U, Moran L, Griffiths W. Department of Chemical Pathology, ham Hospital, London, UK. The purpose of this study was to observe the prevalence of hypocholesterolaemia in a hospital population and also the causes and clinical outcome of this condition. Fifty-seven patients were found with a plasma cholesterol of < or = 3.0 mmol/L, which was less than 0.50% of all plasma cholesterol requests; there were 39 men and 18 women (P < 0.05, Chi-squared test). The mean age was 53.8 [21.3] (range 3-83 years). The mean plasma cholesterol concentration was 2.28 [0.56] mmol/L (1.16-3.0) and the mean triglyceride concentration was 1.58 [1.09] mmol/L (0.49-7.35). There was a significant correlation between plasma cholesterol concentration and plasma albumin (Rs = 0.48, P < 0.01) and between plasma total protein concentration (Rs = 0.49, P < 0.01). However, there was no relationship between the concentrations of plasma cholesterol and triglyceride (Rs = 0.10, P > 0.05). Eighteen per cent of patients with hypocholesterolaemia died during their hospitalization. Thirty- nine per cent of those who had a plasma cholesterol of < or = 2.0 mmol/L died whereas 71% of those who had a plasma cholesterol concentration of < 1.5 mmol/L died. Hypocholesterolaemia was more commonly seen in the intensive care unit and in post-operative patients, those with malignancy, sepsis, acute myocardial infarction, those who had inflammatory bowel disease and diabetics on insulin. Hypocholesterolaemia may be a useful predictor of mortality in hospital patients. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- Do you have low albumin as well or low protein? Those are usually associated with a too low-protein (animal-protein) diet if so. Other tidbits I found concerning hypocholesterolaemia: * Can be caused by Growth hormone therapy. * Often associated with serious chronic inflammatory illness (incl Hep C, malaria, HIV for example) * Can be caused by eating too many plant sterols * Can be caused by exposure to various toxins (aflatoxin-B1, carbonyl compounds, active diols).... any in your environment? * Swedish research shows " serpins " (serine proteinase inhibitors) are the main causative factor when *inflammatory* conditions are involved. Hard to summmarize but involves your alpha-1 antitrypsin levels, a blood factor that can be measured by electrophoresis. For example my alpha-1-antirypsin tends to be low (aggravating allergies) and my cholesterol tends to be high unless I actively do dietary things to keep it reasonable. I could not find any direct link to reproductive anything except in pigs who had many multiple births, they had the syndrome. Probably not very helpful - but at least saves you looking there too:-) Technically the right specialist should know more? Namaste, Irene -- Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom. P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220. www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.) " Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 There are probably unhealthy things you can do to increase it but the trick would be to increase it healthfully. I'm not sure, I don't think they really know for sure. Things that should be good: Good fats Lemon and olive oil Make sure the liver and gallbladder are working properly K On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 1:39 PM, <emhosdil@...> wrote: > I recently had a routine blood screening, and as always my cholesterol > has come back rather low. Doctors are usually happy with this, but as I've > been doing a bit of reading it seems that reproductive hormones are created > from cholesterol. I have a history of low progesterone, estrodial, DHEA. The > standard article seems to say " most of the time low cholesterol is a good > thing, except when.... " and I'm wondering if hormonal imbalance is actually > something that stems from this. I just havent' had scads of time to sit and > research. I seem to always crave beef, and fats (like cheese, ice cream, etc > which I generally don't eat) so I'm beginning to wonder what's up. I've also > never seen much about how to increase cholesterol! > > Marie > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > http://lift-up-your-hearts.blogspot.com/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 Irene, Thanks for the info. Here are my numbers: Total cholesterol: 132 HDL: 56 LDL: 67 Trigylycerides: 45 So I don't think these are out-of-control low, just low, and my MD and ND agree that they are in excellent ratio. Perhaps there is nothing to my idea that this is related to hormonal issues. But I do feel much more satisfied when I eat more fats. Technically I am still nursing my dd, although she is 3 and I don't know that I'm producing any milk anymore. I am also taking DHEA which my ND said can have a cholesterol-lowering effect. I'm not seeing any results on my paperwork for albumin or protein. But the only other items that were considered out of range were chloride (109) blood urea nitrogen (20) and folate (18.2) -- all slightly high. Oh, and white blood cells (4.3) slightly low. Marie -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://lift-up-your-hearts.blogspot.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 We recently had my son tested and results show he has very high mercury levels. He also has very low cholesteral. The doctor says it is because the mercury is keeping the fat from being absorbed. We started chelation last Monday witha DMSA, Gi Microb-X (he has a bacterial infection in his stomach along with parasites because the mercury also prevents the bad bacteria from being killed), Probiotics, Acetyl Cysteine, Vitavescence, and Digestsyzmes. We are doing all supplements 7 days a week and the DMSA on Monday, Wednesday, Friday for a month and then a month off. After four months on this schedule, he will be retested. Vera > > I think I remember something about low cholesterol being an issue with some people with Autism. Does anyone have any recollection or knowledge of this? > > My son't cholesterol was only 100 but he eats a high fat diet, more so than any one in the family. Does this sound right? > > Also his iron level was still a little low(10 instead of 12), even though he takes vitamins with iron. > > Thanks, > D. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 My son's (age 14) cholesterol result as of 10/21/09 was 82. Normal is between 150-200 mg/dl. My son does not have diarrhea though and actually has very good and regular bowels. His doctor did suggest more fats but as the mercury flushes out then his body should start absorbing the fats again is my understanding. Fat is important for the brain. He is 14 and at about a 3rd grade academic level, even lower in some subjects. Hope to see his cognitive issues improve. > > > > > > I think I remember something about low cholesterol being an issue with some people with Autism. Does anyone have any recollection or knowledge of this? > > > > > > My son's cholesterol was only 100 but he eats a high fat diet, more so than any one in the family. Does this sound right? > > > > > > Also his iron level was still a little low(10 instead of 12), even though he takes vitamins with iron. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > D. > > > > > > My son's (age 14) cholesterol result as of 10/21/09 was 82. Normal is between 150-200 mg/dl. My son does not have diarrhea though and actually has very good and regular bowels. His doctor did suggest more fats but as the mercury flushes out then his body should start absorbing the fats again is my understanding. Fat is important for the brain. He is 14 and at about a 3rd grade academic level, even lower in some subjects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 Yes, low Iron and Low Cholesterol are both signs of heavy metal poisoning. I just had all those test run and the Dr. said that my son's labs look just like all the other children they see with heavy metal poisoning. 150 could be low depending on the Lab. My son's was 140 it is not etremely low but it is low. That has to do with the lab though. Every lab has different numbers. > > > > > > I think I remember something about low cholesterol being an issue with some people with Autism. Does anyone have any recollection or knowledge of this? > > > > > > My son't cholesterol was only 100 but he eats a high fat diet, more so than any one in the family. Does this sound right? > > > > > > Also his iron level was still a little low(10 instead of 12), even though he takes vitamins with iron. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > D. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 Thanks for the link. It was what I was looking for.  The GI doc didn't seem alarmed by the results of the labs, but I am more than a little concerned. We are a family that fights high cholesterol. He eats a high fat diet because he needs the calories. Only weighs 108 lbs. at 17 years old. I expected his cholesterol to be out the roof. If he were a vegetarian, I could understand more. He is the kid who eats 6 kfc crispy strips a day.  D. From: Pamela H <phaselow@...> Subject: [ ] Re: Low Cholesterol Date: Monday, December 7, 2009, 11:08 PM  How low is low? My son's total cholesterol was 101 back when he first regressed. It has since risen to about 150. I think the low cholesterol was involved in my son's chronic diarrhea at the time. Are you seeing that? He never took any cholesterol supps nor did I alter his diet to increase cholesterol. In fact, our DAN! at the time (2002; very new DAN!) didn't say anything about it. I just happened to look back on his old labs when the Autism-cholesterol info came out last year. http://www.greatpla inslaboratory. com/home/ chinese/choleste rol.asp Pam > > > > I think I remember something about low cholesterol being an issue with some people with Autism. Does anyone have any recollection or knowledge of this? > > > > My son't cholesterol was only 100 but he eats a high fat diet, more so than any one in the family. Does this sound right? > > > > Also his iron level was still a little low(10 instead of 12), even though he takes vitamins with iron. > > > > Thanks, > > D. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 Did they run a total lipid panel? Triglycerides, HDL/LDL, etc. My cholesterol has historically also been close to 100-120. I have a long history of depression. Since I started chelating and taking supplements (and weaning off anti-depressants) which included high dose EPA my cholesterol is about 150 and I feel better. Is he depressed or have a depressed mood? Pam > > > > > > I think I remember something about low cholesterol being an issue with some people with Autism. Does anyone have any recollection or knowledge of this? > > > > > > My son't cholesterol was only 100 but he eats a high fat diet, more so than any one in the family. Does this sound right? > > > > > > Also his iron level was still a little low(10 instead of 12), even though he takes vitamins with iron. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > D. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 Yes. A lipid panel, thyroid, cbc, but I haven't seen the results. He just told me the cholesterol was good " 101 " , thyroid normal, still a little anemic. He said the biopsies of the colon and ileum valve were ok but he wanted to still keep an eye on him. His symptoms pointed to Crohn's but the tests showed negative. His brother(not autistic) had digestive issues and developed ulcerative colitis at 24. As far as depression--I don't think I know what I am looking for. He has episodes of crying if he is reprimanded(that is after he has worn himself and me out with a tantrum). Stays awake most of the time. Has meltdowns and aggresion and self injurous behaviors for no reason that we can understand. We are so thankful that the behavioral episodes are few and far between now. He is trying to be more verbal, even though he has a tendency to stutter. From: Pamela H <phaselow@...> Subject: [ ] Re: Low Cholesterol Date: Tuesday, December 8, 2009, 8:22 AM  Did they run a total lipid panel? Triglycerides, HDL/LDL, etc. My cholesterol has historically also been close to 100-120. I have a long history of depression. Since I started chelating and taking supplements (and weaning off anti-depressants) which included high dose EPA my cholesterol is about 150 and I feel better. Is he depressed or have a depressed mood? Pam > > > > > > I think I remember something about low cholesterol being an issue with some people with Autism. Does anyone have any recollection or knowledge of this? > > > > > > My son't cholesterol was only 100 but he eats a high fat diet, more so than any one in the family. Does this sound right? > > > > > > Also his iron level was still a little low(10 instead of 12), even though he takes vitamins with iron. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > D. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 He has been tested for the most common heavy metals(lead, mercury, & arsenic) 3 times over the past 12 years. The only thing they found elevated was arsenic. I have always believed that he had some kind of heavy metal issue, but didn't know what, since the tests show nothing. When he was very young, he dropped an old thermometer at his grandmother's house and broke it. I did not know about it until much later. I have been concerned that it was one of the mercury filled ones, but can't be sure. It happened years ago.   It takes 4 orderlies to restrain him to get blood work done, so it is a very big deal. They did this one while he was asleep for a colonoscopy. From: Y <elizabeth_yohe@...> Subject: [ ] Re: Low Cholesterol Date: Monday, December 7, 2009, 11:54 PM  Yes, low Iron and Low Cholesterol are both signs of heavy metal poisoning. I just had all those test run and the Dr. said that my son's labs look just like all the other children they see with heavy metal poisoning. 150 could be low depending on the Lab. My son's was 140 it is not etremely low but it is low. That has to do with the lab though. Every lab has different numbers. > > > > > > I think I remember something about low cholesterol being an issue with some people with Autism. Does anyone have any recollection or knowledge of this? > > > > > > My son't cholesterol was only 100 but he eats a high fat diet, more so than any one in the family. Does this sound right? > > > > > > Also his iron level was still a little low(10 instead of 12), even though he takes vitamins with iron. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > D. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 My son is 17 and academically at the 4th grade level. He has such extreme sensory and social issues, we are at a loss. How did you know he had mercury and what are you doing to get rid of it? From: ev.rviii5106 <rviii@...> Subject: [ ] Re: Low Cholesterol Date: Monday, December 7, 2009, 11:44 PM  My son's (age 14) cholesterol result as of 10/21/09 was 82. Normal is between 150-200 mg/dl. My son does not have diarrhea though and actually has very good and regular bowels. His doctor did suggest more fats but as the mercury flushes out then his body should start absorbing the fats again is my understanding. Fat is important for the brain. He is 14 and at about a 3rd grade academic level, even lower in some subjects. Hope to see his cognitive issues improve. > > > > > > I think I remember something about low cholesterol being an issue with some people with Autism. Does anyone have any recollection or knowledge of this? > > > > > > My son's cholesterol was only 100 but he eats a high fat diet, more so than any one in the family. Does this sound right? > > > > > > Also his iron level was still a little low(10 instead of 12), even though he takes vitamins with iron. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > D. > > > > > > My son's (age 14) cholesterol result as of 10/21/09 was 82. Normal is between 150-200 mg/dl. My son does not have diarrhea though and actually has very good and regular bowels. His doctor did suggest more fats but as the mercury flushes out then his body should start absorbing the fats again is my understanding. Fat is important for the brain. He is 14 and at about a 3rd grade academic level, even lower in some subjects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 THe big mistake that the majority of people in the country make is to look at numbers as far as cholesterol and not cause. 80% of the cholesterol is made in the liver. Liver toxicity is the cause of both low and high cholesterol (although low may be from low EFA's and/or minerals also). Clean up the liver and the cholesterol will improve, although I do supplement with cholesterol (Sonic from New Beginnings) if the level is low and it is affecting the child. Cholesterol is necessary for making most of our hormones. On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 7:16 AM, drissia wright <ritzywright@...>wrote: > > > Thanks for the link. It was what I was looking for. > > The GI doc didn't seem alarmed by the results of the labs, but I am more > than a little concerned. We are a family that fights high cholesterol. He > eats a high fat diet because he needs the calories. Only weighs 108 lbs. at > 17 years old. I expected his cholesterol to be out the roof. If he were a > vegetarian, I could understand more. He is the kid who eats 6 kfc crispy > strips a day. > > D. > > > > From: Pamela H <phaselow@... <phaselow%40wi.rr.com>> > Subject: [ ] Re: Low Cholesterol > < %40> > Date: Monday, December 7, 2009, 11:08 PM > > > > How low is low? > > My son's total cholesterol was 101 back when he first regressed. It has > since risen to about 150. I think the low cholesterol was involved in my > son's chronic diarrhea at the time. Are you seeing that? > > He never took any cholesterol supps nor did I alter his diet to increase > cholesterol. In fact, our DAN! at the time (2002; very new DAN!) didn't say > anything about it. I just happened to look back on his old labs when the > Autism-cholesterol info came out last year. > > http://www.greatpla inslaboratory. com/home/ chinese/choleste rol.asp > > Pam > > > > > > > > I think I remember something about low cholesterol being an issue with > some people with Autism. Does anyone have any recollection or knowledge of > this? > > > > > > My son't cholesterol was only 100 but he eats a high fat diet, more so > than any one in the family. Does this sound right? > > > > > > Also his iron level was still a little low(10 instead of 12), even > though he takes vitamins with iron. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > D. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 In addition to chelation, check out this page for liver detoxification ideas . . .. http://www.digitalnaturopath.com/treat/T355089.html The next link is a detailed explaination of the why and how behind the information in the first link. You might want to read it at a later date . . . http://www.tuberose.com/Liver_Detoxification.html > > How do you clean up the liver? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 Thanks for the info. I need all the help I can get. From: orelindel <whatmattersmost@...> Subject: [ ] Re: Low Cholesterol Date: Tuesday, December 8, 2009, 6:31 PM  In addition to chelation, check out this page for liver detoxification ideas . . .. http://www.digitaln aturopath. com/treat/ T355089.html The next link is a detailed explaination of the why and how behind the information in the first link. You might want to read it at a later date . . . http://www.tuberose .com/Liver_ Detoxification. html > > How do you clean up the liver? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 They did a liver enzyme test with this last bloodwork. Is that the same thing? > > > > From: Pamela H <phaselowwi (DOT) rr.com > <phaselow%40wi. rr.com>> > > Subject: [ ] Re: Low Cholesterol > > > < % 40groups. com> > > Date: Monday, December 7, 2009, 11:08 PM > > > > > > > > How low is low? > > > > My son's total cholesterol was 101 back when he first > regressed. It has > > since risen to about 150. I think the low cholesterol > was involved in my > > son's chronic diarrhea at the time. Are you seeing > that? > > > > He never took any cholesterol supps nor did I alter > his diet to increase > > cholesterol. In fact, our DAN! at the time (2002; very > new DAN!) didn't say > > anything about it. I just happened to look back on his > old labs when the > > Autism-cholesterol info came out last year. > > > > http://www.greatpla inslaboratory. com/home/ > chinese/choleste rol.asp > > > > Pam > > > > > > > > > > > > I think I remember something about low > cholesterol being an issue with > > some people with Autism. Does anyone have any > recollection or knowledge of > > this? > > > > > > > > My son't cholesterol was only 100 but he > eats a high fat diet, more so > > than any one in the family. Does this sound right? > > > > > > > > Also his iron level was still a little > low(10 instead of 12), even > > though he takes vitamins with iron. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > D. > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 I personally can tell you I would start with LiverLife it is made by BioRay and was one of the first interventions I used. My son's liver function at 67 range being 5-34 he was late 3 or early 4 years old. I started LiverLife and in a short time I know it was less then 4 months between the test his number dropped to 35 we have heald at 35 ever since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 I've been out of town and unable to reply. First, to clean up the liver you need to reduce intake of toxins by using less dietary and environmental chemicals. Next enhance elimination with appropriate amounts of clean water, fresh fruits and vegetables. Epsom salt baths with baking soda and volcanic clay are also helpful. Some people use foot pads, foot baths and saunas. Perspiraton in moderate amounts is helpful. Botanicals that we use to support the liver are herbs such as milk thistle seeds, burdock root, eyebright, red clover blossoms, dandelion root, cleavers leaf and others. Detoxification should be gradually introduced and also possibly combined with chelation. Rapid detoxification, especially without liver support may cause both new and an aggrevation of symptoms. On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 8:06 PM, drissia wright <ritzywright@...>wrote: > > > Thanks for the info. I need all the help I can get. > > > > From: orelindel <whatmattersmost@...<whatmattersmost%40cablespeed.com> > > > Subject: [ ] Re: Low Cholesterol > < %40> > Date: Tuesday, December 8, 2009, 6:31 PM > > > > In addition to chelation, check out this page for liver detoxification > ideas . . . > > http://www.digitaln aturopath. com/treat/ T355089.html > > The next link is a detailed explaination of the why and how behind the > information in the first link. You might want to read it at a later date . . > . > > http://www.tuberose .com/Liver_ Detoxification. html > > > > > > How do you clean up the liver? > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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