Re: Child hitting himself - Please give your opinoin

[Guest guest]

Hi

I'm very sorry that your son is doing this and very much hope things improve.

60 hours is actually quite a short duration for a round, ideally a minimum of 66

hours would be more appropriate, however the dose seems pretty high to me, 1/8 -

1/2 mg per pound of body weight which would put your son on 23 mg rounded up to

25 mg at tops would be recommended.

When starting chelation it would probably be better to start at a low dose and

then stick with what is tolerable for about 6 rounds at a time before increasing

and not to increase the dose by more than 50% at one time.

There are adults who have trouble tolerating doses as little as 12.5 mg, and as

many of our kids have trouble communicating their discomfort I personally feel

erring on the low side would be better.

This may possibly not be the reason that your son is doing this, but I would

recommend this all the same.

Other things to look at (and hopefully others would have some ideas)

are increased yeast and possibly increased adrenal stress.

Best wishes

Kenny

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> Dear All,

>

> Since finishing our last AC round (round 16)my son is hitting himself

everytime I raise my voice at him. He has never done this before and it is

really sad to see.

>

> I will admit that we did the longest AC round we have done to date (i.e 60hrs)

given we had the Easter break in Europe and I upped the dose of DMSA from 30mg

to 40mg. Could this be it ? i.e the long chelation time and the increase dose ?

My angel is 46pounds and 7 years old.

>

> Has anyone had this before ?

> Thanks

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Kenny,

Sorry, I meant around 60 X3 hour sessions. In short we did from Friady mornign

to Thursday morning of the following week. I agree that the dose is slightly

higher but given that you can go up to 1mg per pound when doing DMSA alone, i

thought I was doing well. It seems I was too high actually and will take your

advice and go back to 1/2mg per pound.

I think you are right about the yeast. I think once I get him back to a lower

dose I should be fine. Hope the hitting stops.

Thansk again for the quick reply

> >

> > Dear All,

> >

> > Since finishing our last AC round (round 16)my son is hitting himself

everytime I raise my voice at him. He has never done this before and it is

really sad to see.

> >

> > I will admit that we did the longest AC round we have done to date (i.e

60hrs) given we had the Easter break in Europe and I upped the dose of DMSA from

30mg to 40mg. Could this be it ? i.e the long chelation time and the increase

dose ? My angel is 46pounds and 7 years old.

> >

> > Has anyone had this before ?

> > Thanks

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

> Since finishing our last AC round (round 16)my son is hitting himself

everytime I raise my voice at him. He has never done this before and it is

really sad to see.

This sounds like yeast overgrowth.

Dana

[Guest guest]

My son also hits his face and bites his arms. I always hear people say that it

sounds like yeast... we've been treating yeast for a year now. How long does

yeast last??? we treat w/ Nystatin. Any other suggestions??

thx,

saadya

>

> Dear All,

>

> Since finishing our last AC round (round 16)my son is hitting himself

everytime I raise my voice at him. He has never done this before and it is

really sad to see.

>

> I will admit that we did the longest AC round we have done to date (i.e 60hrs)

given we had the Easter break in Europe and I upped the dose of DMSA from 30mg

to 40mg. Could this be it ? i.e the long chelation time and the increase dose ?

My angel is 46pounds and 7 years old.

>

> Has anyone had this before ?

> Thanks

>

>

[Guest guest]

We use nystatin also but i have heard it doesn't work on all strains

of yeast..and only works on yeast in the gut. We also use biotin/mag

and S. Boulardii...lots of probiotics. Some like grape fruit seed extract

and I have heard good things but my son doesn't tolerate. Oil or oregano

is used by some also...

 39 and Mom to three

Tasha 22 ooops..new Mommy ( Grammy to Kyri 18/m)

Casey-Mae 14..sweet as pie

Elijah 2 1/2.. ASD and beautiful

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From: the..nothings <the.nothings@...>

Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 10:19:59 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: Child hitting himself - Please give your opinoin

My son also hits his face and bites his arms. I always hear people say that it

sounds like yeast... we've been treating yeast for a year now. How long does

yeast last??? we treat w/ Nystatin. Any other suggestions? ?

thx,

saadya

>

> Dear All,

>

> Since finishing our last AC round (round 16)my son is hitting himself

everytime I raise my voice at him. He has never done this before and it is

really sad to see.

>

> I will admit that we did the longest AC round we have done to date (i.e 60hrs)

given we had the Easter break in Europe and I upped the dose of DMSA from 30mg

to 40mg. Could this be it ? i.e the long chelation time and the increase dose ?

My angel is 46pounds and 7 years old.

>

> Has anyone had this before ?

> Thanks

>

>

[Guest guest]

Magnesium may help, either adding or increasing the current dose. My son did

this when his sensory issues were heightened. Sometimes this happened while

detoxing, with yeast and sometimes when histamines were high. Right now is

allergy season so if it came on suddenly, some natural antihistamines may help.

Also, even if the chelator you use isn't binding to minerals like zinc and

magnesium, the body utilizes more during detox.

TamiW

Gavin's mom

> >

> > Dear All,

> >

> > Since finishing our last AC round (round 16)my son is hitting himself

everytime I raise my voice at him. He has never done this before and it is

really sad to see.

> >

> > I will admit that we did the longest AC round we have done to date (i.e

60hrs) given we had the Easter break in Europe and I upped the dose of DMSA from

30mg to 40mg. Could this be it ? i.e the long chelation time and the increase

dose ? My angel is 46pounds and 7 years old.

> >

> > Has anyone had this before ?

> > Thanks

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Lower his dose, our rounds last three days and two nights.

My son is 6 and 50 pounds and he takes 25mg of dmsa. He's had 63 rounds though.

For the first 40 rounds he took 12.5mg. Then he went to 20mg and then at 55

rounds he went to 25mg.

Take his dose back down to where this was not happening.

Self injury behavior is a symptom of mercury poisoning. Mercury makes you feel

very angry and mean and you want to hurt, smash and destroy things. Especially

if you get depressed or someone has yelled at you. For some reason you

internalize it and blame yourself. At least from my perspective of when I was

suffering from mercury, as was my older child who could tell me.

Try giving him more vitamin C to help with post round symptoms. But keeping his

chelation dose lower should help a lot.

Self injurious behavior happened in my son before we began biomed. He used to

bite himself and bang his head if he got angry. My older child also had problems

with scratching herself when angry.

Try adrenal support or supplemental lithium to help, between that and low dose

chelation we have not seen these behaviors any more.

> > >

> > > Dear All,

> > >

> > > Since finishing our last AC round (round 16)my son is hitting himself

everytime I raise my voice at him. He has never done this before and it is

really sad to see.

> > >

> > > I will admit that we did the longest AC round we have done to date (i.e

60hrs) given we had the Easter break in Europe and I upped the dose of DMSA from

30mg to 40mg. Could this be it ? i.e the long chelation time and the increase

dose ? My angel is 46pounds and 7 years old.

> > >

> > > Has anyone had this before ?

> > > Thanks

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

>

> My son also hits his face and bites his arms. I always hear people say that it

sounds like yeast... we've been treating yeast for a year now. How long does

yeast last??? we treat w/ Nystatin. Any other suggestions??

Nystatin is only effective against certain strains of yeast, and usually only

helps for yeast in the GI tract. If you have different strains, or yeast in

other places, Nystatin won't do much for you.

What worked here for all yeast in all places, was GSE, ACV, Candidase, and

biotin.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Hi All,

Thanks a million for your quick replies. Yeah, I am betting its the yeast as

well. I will start him on Diflucan (always does the trick) and also do a few

drops of GSE once a day.

We tried nystatin in the past but my son does not respond to that.

Take care and love you all

> >

> > My son also hits his face and bites his arms. I always hear people say that

it sounds like yeast... we've been treating yeast for a year now. How long does

yeast last??? we treat w/ Nystatin. Any other suggestions??

>

>

> Nystatin is only effective against certain strains of yeast, and usually only

helps for yeast in the GI tract. If you have different strains, or yeast in

other places, Nystatin won't do much for you.

>

> What worked here for all yeast in all places, was GSE, ACV, Candidase, and

biotin.

>

> Dana

>