Guest guest Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 In a message dated 03/04/2006 10:59:52 GMT Daylight Time, chris.cytera@... writes: Don't know if anyone else responded or how 'potted' you want it. My understanding is alot based on SCD -next to no carbs lots of nuts, high protein and juicing. Juicing is the natural way to chelate a/c N C McB >>so how is it different from SCD then, thats whats confusing me Mandi x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 Do you use nuts on SCD? They sent a bit bananas the first time we tried it so I was thinking of trying without as a lot of Low Oxalate diet people are doing... Any comments much appreciated... Love Craoline xxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 Hi Mandi, I’ll do a bit of quoting from Breaking the Vicious Cycle and Natasha’s book – very basic explanation: The SCD or GAPs diet looks at problems with autism as a disorder of bacterial fermentation and the problems which occur because of it. Researchers the 1970’s who first looked at autism and digestion found that undigested carbs were being changed by bacterial action in the intestine to a substance, D-lactic acid. High amount of this substance can cause autistic like behaviours. Decreasing the amount of fermentable carbs which bacteria can feed to produce this is what SCD is based on. It’s a very strict diet, first stage is to heal and next to introduce legal and take out illegal foods to maintain absorption and proper digestion - and NO carbs/sugar should be consumed for it to be 100% successful. Homemade yoghurt is used, and said to be very beneficial, and all baked goods are made with nut flour : Illegal foods: All grains All starchy veg Sugar Starchy beans Lactose Soya, tofu etc Legal Meat and fish Eggs Non starchy veg All fruit Nuts and seeds Beans & pulses Honey Nastasha recommends juicing for detoxification and chelating ;-) So, what they say basically is our kids can’t digest carbs – that’s not really a potted version is it! If you want to borrow any of the books – Natasha’s and the SCD let me know and I’ll send out. I spoke to Dr H on Thursday and asked him about it again (he hadn’t seen much success before) – but seemed much more convinced this time – said had one child doing exceptionally well on it. Btw, thanks for the Dr Baker book – came this am. Bfn, Elaine GAPS Diet Can somebody who knows about this give me the potted version of what it means please? No clue in Dorset x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 >Don't know if anyone else responded or how 'potted' you want it. My understanding is alot based on SCD -next to no carbs lots of nuts, high protein and juicing. Juicing is the natural way to chelate a/c N C McB I'm sure this is too basic! Rhona > Can somebody who knows about this give me the potted version of what it > means please? > > No clue in Dorset x > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 Hi Mandi I haven't read GAPS but have done old style SCD for almost two years. Comparing with other peeps starting GAPS I think the main differences are that on SCD you don't use raw veggies for quite a while, on GAPS I think you are juicing almost from the word go. Also Biokult which is a big part of GAPS is illegal on SCD. GAPS cooks with animal fats oils are not allowed, on SCD many cooking oils are ok. GAPS recommends I think 2 eggs a day, on SCD it is up to you whether you eat eggs and how many. NCB is recommended by SCD as an SCD Dr so presumably there can't be too many differences. I think biokult is the main one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 Hi Caroline Yes I used cashew nuts, then switched to pumpkin seeds because of oxalates. Then read you shouldnt use pumpkin seeds all the time. Now I use a mixture of both which seems to work ok. Pumpkin seeds on their own are quite bitter. The low oxalate diet didnt make much difference to Joe, other than bringing down oxalate levels. No other improvements but he didn't meet the criteria anyway, just had high oxalates in a urine test I'd had done for something unrelated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 Caroline, We grind up lentils and sometimes use,yellow split peas and black eyed beans.Lentils are medium oxalate I think but, she does o.k as long as we don't over do it. Love Sharon. > > > Do you use nuts on SCD? They sent a bit bananas the first time we > tried it so I was thinking of trying without as a lot of Low Oxalate diet people > are doing... Any comments much appreciated... > Love Craoline > xxx > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 They seem to be the same as far as I can tell – with certain bits added in by Natasha from her own experiences – like the supplements and juicing for detox. Re: Re: GAPS Diet In a message dated 03/04/2006 10:59:52 GMT Daylight Time, chris.cytera@... writes: Don't know if anyone else responded or how 'potted' you want it. My understanding is alot based on SCD -next to no carbs lots of nuts, high protein and juicing. Juicing is the natural way to chelate a/c N C McB >>so how is it different from SCD then, thats whats confusing me Mandi x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 Thanks Sharon Have been thinking about you, How are things with Katy? Are you still thinking about seeing Krigsman? has had impaction agin, pretty dire stuff but better now. Thot I would give SCD another go for a 2 wek trial and actually got her to eat banana pancakes, couldnt believe it, poor Becky desperation I think, she knows nothing else is coming her way... Will keep y'all posted. Luv Craoline xxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 I thought some dairy was allowed on SCD but not on GAPS or am I confused too???simondavis <simondavis@...> wrote: They seem to be the same as far as I can tell – with certain bits added in by Natasha from her own experiences – like the supplements and juicing for detox. -----Original Message-----From: Autism Treatment [mailto:Autism Treatment ] On Behalf Of Mum231ASD@...Sent: 03 April 2006 11:38Autism Treatment Subject: Re: Re: GAPS Diet In a message dated 03/04/2006 10:59:52 GMT Daylight Time, chris.cytera@... writes: Don't know if anyone else responded or how 'potted' you want it. My understanding is alot based on SCD -next to no carbs lots of nuts, high protein and juicing. Juicing is the natural way to chelate a/c N C McB >>so how is it different from SCD then, thats whats confusing me Mandi x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 Hi Caroline, Sorry to hear has been impacted again,how did you clear her out? We are a bit undecided about seeing Dr Krigsman at present ,cost is a big issue,also recently Katy's tummy has been slightly improved since we've been using Glucosamine,less bloated and her pooh's are slightly better,so I want to give this more of a chance to help. Will discuss with Dr Usman and see what she advises. Katy is also very limited in what she can eat,never thought I could be so inventive,had never heard of Black eyed beans before all this ,thought they were a pop group!! Take care love Sharon x > > Thanks Sharon > Have been thinking about you, How are things with Katy? Are you still > thinking about seeing Krigsman? has had impaction agin, pretty dire stuff > but better now. Thot I would give SCD another go for a 2 wek trial and > actually got her to eat banana pancakes, couldnt believe it, poor Becky desperation > I think, she knows nothing else is coming her way... > Will keep y'all posted. > Luv Craoline > xxx > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2009 Report Share Posted April 13, 2009 Has anyone heard of or tried the GAPS diet for guts healing developed by Dr. -McBride? She has an autistic son but now is fully recovered. http://www.gapsdiet.com -- Priscilla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 Yes...I have her book. It was one that I read that really made a lot of sense to me as I was reading it. Very similar to SCD. I can't really remember the subtle differences right now except that there is more of an emphasis on fermented foods. We were SCD at the time I read the book and we are currently just GF as we are waiting to figure out what food allergies we're dealing with (as well as which metals we're dealing with) before we make any more changes. I would guess that if I revisited an intense diet again, it would likely be GAPS. If you're pretty certain you're dealing with yeast, bad bacteria, I'd say that this is worth looking into. Kari > > Has anyone heard of or tried the GAPS diet for guts healing developed by Dr. > -McBride? She has an autistic son but now is fully recovered. > http://www.gapsdiet.com > > > -- > Priscilla > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 is her book available at local bookshop? I couldn't find it at the library. tks On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 10:29 PM, karicreehan <karicreehan@...> wrote: > > > Yes...I have her book. It was one that I read that really made a lot of > sense to me as I was reading it. Very similar to SCD. I can't really > remember the subtle differences right now except that there is more of an > emphasis on fermented foods. We were SCD at the time I read the book and we > are currently just GF as we are waiting to figure out what food allergies > we're dealing with (as well as which metals we're dealing with) before we > make any more changes. I would guess that if I revisited an intense diet > again, it would likely be GAPS. > > If you're pretty certain you're dealing with yeast, bad bacteria, I'd say > that this is worth looking into. > > Kari > > > > > > Has anyone heard of or tried the GAPS diet for guts healing developed by > Dr. > > -McBride? She has an autistic son but now is fully recovered. > > http://www.gapsdiet.com > > > > > > -- > > Priscilla > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 You might have to order it from amazon in england OR pick one up at an autism one/DAN conference. Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed Re: [ ] Re: GAPS diet is her book available at local bookshop? I couldn't find it at the library. tks On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 10:29 PM, karicreehan <karicreehan@...> wrote: > > > Yes...I have her book. It was one that I read that really made a lot of > sense to me as I was reading it. Very similar to SCD. I can't really > remember the subtle differences right now except that there is more of an > emphasis on fermented foods. We were SCD at the time I read the book and we > are currently just GF as we are waiting to figure out what food allergies > we're dealing with (as well as which metals we're dealing with) before we > make any more changes. I would guess that if I revisited an intense diet > again, it would likely be GAPS. > > If you're pretty certain you're dealing with yeast, bad bacteria, I'd say > that this is worth looking into. > > Kari > > > > > > Has anyone heard of or tried the GAPS diet for guts healing developed by > Dr. > > -McBride? She has an autistic son but now is fully recovered. > > http://www.gapsdiet.com > > > > > > -- > > Priscilla > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 Hi Priscilla, My daughter (age 8) has been on the GAPS diet since Jan 5, 2009. We started with the full GAPS diet and then started the recommended " intro " after about 8 weeks. We are still doing the diet, but I have some mixed feelings about it. After starting intro, my daughter became more sensitive to many, many foods. She can't tolerate the BioKult probiotic that is recommend, hates the broths that are the backbone of the diet, and hasn't reacted well to fermented foods. We're sticking with it, but are struggling with food sensitivities right now. Her diet is quite limited. There is a GAPShelp listserve that might be helpful to you if you're interested in learning more. Some have reported great results, but it seems to be a very long, slow process and not without some pitfalls. Hope this helps! Judy > > Has anyone heard of or tried the GAPS diet for guts healing developed by Dr. > -McBride? She has an autistic son but now is fully recovered. > http://www.gapsdiet.com > > > -- > Priscilla > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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