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Dear Friends: Guess what??? I FINALLY tested positive, having 4 bands

in my IgG test in the Western Blot. IgM had 2 equivocal bands, but I

guess that means negative.

SO ----- HERE'S TO THE DOCTORS WHO WANTED TO PRESCRIBE

ANTI-DEPRESSANTS -------> PHLELLLEWEEEEEEE [raspberries!]

Lovette

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I can tell you what I paid for the tests they did - I don't have insurance so

this is gross cost. But I've never had a LUAT done. Also this is in US $,

so you'll have to convert my figures. It sure isn't cheap. Hope this helps.

Babesiosis Multiplex (includes DNA and FISH) $375.00

Erlichiosis HME

$109.00

Western Blot

$248.00

IgG and IgM ELISA

$ 93.50

I was also tested for Erlichiosis (HGE) but that was done last year by a

different dr. and I can't find the bill. I'd just assume it was also $109.

In a message dated 6/22/99 9:22:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

thehub@... writes:

> Does anyone know what their testing fees are?

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In a message dated 6/22/99 7:28:27 PM !!!First Boot!!!, FIG4159@...

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<< I can tell you what I paid for the tests they did - I don't have insurance

so

this is gross cost. But I've never had a LUAT done. Also this is in US $,

so you'll have to convert my figures. It sure isn't cheap. Hope this helps.

Babesiosis Multiplex (includes DNA and FISH) $375.00

Erlichiosis HME

$109.00

Western Blot

$248.00

IgG and IgM ELISA

$ 93.50

>>

For 1 sample: 73.00

For 2 samples: 146.00

For 3 samples: 219.00 (all above for NY residents add 8.18% state tax)

These are all prepayment fees - you receive a 30-40% discount by sending

payment along with specimens.

Hope this helps: Kim

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LUAT is about $200.00 for 3 urine samples.

>From: FIG4159@...

>

>I can tell you what I paid for the tests they did - I don't have insurance so

>this is gross cost. But I've never had a LUAT done. Also this is in US $,

>so you'll have to convert my figures. It sure isn't cheap. Hope this helps.

>

>

>Babesiosis Multiplex (includes DNA and FISH) $375.00

>Erlichiosis HME

> $109.00

>Western Blot

> $248.00

>IgG and IgM ELISA

> $ 93.50

>

>I was also tested for Erlichiosis (HGE) but that was done last year by a

>different dr. and I can't find the bill. I'd just assume it was also $109.

>

>In a message dated 6/22/99 9:22:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

>thehub@... writes:

>> Does anyone know what their testing fees are?

>

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I just got off the phone...the babesia testing is on hold right now till

their normal every two year certification of their test process is

reviewed...no complaints were issued about anything....just a lag in getting

paperwork reviewed in a timely manner...BUT

to those who send LUATS in thru referral labs...make sure a seperate lab slip

is sent for EACH urine specimen......I dropped off 9 urine specimens off for

3 family memebers with all specimens clearly labeled...turns out, we only got

one result for each person instead of 3...the SKB people only sent out one

urine despite 3 samples submitted for 3 tests ordered for each

patient...beware...BTW all 3 were highly positive samples...so now 4 of 5

family members have Lyme B

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Hi Bernadette,

Thanks for calling and getting the answers from Igenex. I am so sorry

you learned 4 of you now have LD. I hope the kids aren't too symptomatic

and you found a good doctor in your plan to treat them. I really hate

hearing about children suffering from this disease yet more and more cases

come about each year, even in families who are Lyme literate and know the

signs and how to prevent this disease. It makes you wonder whether we all

need to wear plastic suits inside and outside. Thanks for the thyroid info

too,

Hugs,

Marta NJ

>From: BratDet@...

>

>I just got off the phone...the babesia testing is on hold right now till

>their normal every two year certification of their test process is

>reviewed...no complaints were issued about anything....just a lag in

getting

>paperwork reviewed in a timely manner...BUT

>to those who send LUATS in thru referral labs...make sure a seperate lab

slip

>is sent for EACH urine specimen......I dropped off 9 urine specimens off

for

>3 family memebers with all specimens clearly labeled...turns out, we only

got

>one result for each person instead of 3...the SKB people only sent out one

>urine despite 3 samples submitted for 3 tests ordered for each

>patient...beware...BTW all 3 were highly positive samples...so now 4 of 5

>family members have Lyme B

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Call IGENEX and they will send you the forms. IGENEX must be paid for up

front unless you have Medicare part b. This was my experience. IGENEX also

has a website and you can print the requisition form as well as call their

number (800-832-3200): http://www.igenex.com/formset2.htm It gives you

several options on how to print the forms. You can do the urine tests at

home and they will send the results to your doctor, just fill in his name.

The pricing includes the return postage of the urine samples to IGENEX.

From what I understand, the ALISA is useless, the Western Blot is more

accurate, and if it comes back positive, the LUAT and Multiplex PCR urine

tests need to be done to narrow down the treatment but the accuracy

increases IF YOU DO THEM ON ANTIBIOTICS. You would need your doc to rx the

antibiotics for you. This is the protocol that my CFS/LLMD followed.

Feel free to email me personally but I may not get back to you in a day or

two as I am in a CFIDS crash and spend 20 hours of 24 each in bed.

Hugs from a Light-HouseKeeper in Florida

(Anyone can clean the house, only you can catch up on your rest,)

Michele E. Townsend, FMS/90,ME/CFS/94,LD/??(Dx01),SSDI/95

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----- Original Message -----

From: " " Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 4:58 PM

> Can anyone tell me how I go about having all labs sent to IGeneX? My

doctor

> already does it on her own. But, my mom's doctor probably doesn't even

know

> about this. If mom lived closer, I would have her go to my doctor. So,

how

> does one go about this? Does she just take a list of the tests that need

to

> be performed and then the address of IGeneX? Her insurance is a PCP type

of

> thing. As long as the PCP doctor chooses to have the labs sent to IGeneX

it

> should be covered, right? Gosh, my brain is so fuzzy right now, I don't

> even think I am making any sense. I hate it when it gets like this, I

just

> lose all my confidence and don't even want to speak. Anyways, since the

> LUAT is gone now, I was thinking that she should have IGeneX do the ELISA,

> WB and multiplex PCR. Anyone out there with any opinions or answers?

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no they aren't. The ID has basically told me that unless I have " facial

paralysis and a swollen knee " that I don't have lymes. This is directly

out of Yale's BS about lymes. My neurologist, though she's open minded to

the idea that I may indeed have lymes, has developed an attitude about

Igenex.... though she admits I probably know more about lymes than she does.

I can't find a LLMD locally.

At 12:12 PM 09/30/2002 -0400, you wrote:

>Not sure why....are they Lyme literate? If not, then I would find another

>doc :o) C

>

>

> > Message: 6

> > Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 21:10:53 -0700

> > From: Joy <hummingbird13@...>

> > Subject: Igenex

> >

> > I'm rather frustrated. Both my doctors had nothing nice to say about

> > Igenex. How can I get around this and why do they have this attitude,

> > because I really want to get the urine PCR?

>

>

>

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I'd go for the tick panel- western blot IGg IGm tests with the

babesia and erlichi, but It would be best to see and LLMD and

disscuss it with them. Some doctors don't like Igenex because they

have a high rate of positives and so they are suspicious. Forget all

the crappy labs who don't specialize in tick bourne diseases and get

high rates of negatives in people with the symptoms of lyme disease.

It's ultimately political. Igenex was under attack by the state of

California, but ended up passing the surprise examination just fine

and were cleared. Basically it comes down to do you believe the side

that only reads or generates the garbage science put forth by Steere

et al...., who are going to be sceptical of false positives, or do

you believe doctors who treat lyme patients everyday and correlate

their symptoms and response to the results from the labs they use?

Steve E.

>I'm rather frustrated. Both my doctors had nothing nice to say about

>Igenex. How can I get around this and why do they have this attitude,

>because I really want to get the urine PCR?

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I'm in Santa Cruz, about 90 miles south of San Francisco.

At 03:57 PM 09/30/2002 -0400, you wrote:

>In a message dated 9/30/02 1:07:38 PM, hummingbird13@... writes:

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><< I can't find a LLMD locally. >>

>

>Where are you??? Maybe I can help......

>sue in nj

>sue massie

>

>

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In a message dated 9/30/02 4:21:52 PM, hummingbird13@... writes:

<< I'm in Santa Cruz, about 90 miles south of San Francisco.

>>

I will send you a private e-mail with LLMDs names/#s.

sue n nj

sue massie

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> She has had western blot testing for Lyme both before and after

her western blot at Igenex; Igenex was the only lab that considered

it positive, and by CDC standards. Does anyone else question why a

test would come back positive at Igenex, but negative at other labs?

Is their test more sensitive, or is something else going on? >

>

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In a message dated 6/5/2005 6:18:21 AM Eastern Standard Time,

writes:

She said they think igenx testing is a hoax...i cant believe this

That would make no sense, Igenex results also show people as negative, my

coinfections came back 2 negative and one borderline..... they make no money

from your treatment, only from the test so once they get the money for the

test, they have nothing invested in whether someone is positive or negative. I

am sure it has been checked as far as someone who has no symptoms and never

been bit etc tested and if they were finding UNinfected people as positive we

would have heard about it. And if they just kept faking it it would be

apparent as when tests were coming back in droves as positive in a town where

there were no ticks...... they never know when they are being checked, ANY

test sent to them could be a STING to see if they were faking so I dont think

they would risk it, they do too much business to risk it! LOL Lyme is not

diagnosed just on the testing so dont worry, just go to a good llmd and a test

will only HELP the doc diagnose you, but he should rely more on your

symptoms. GOOD LUCK.

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We have used IGENEX for testing for our 13 year old daughter twice in the

last 3 years.

Both times the urine tests came back positive for the presence of the

bacteria.

I have no problems with their testing or LabCorp or even our local hospital.

My problem is technician's who do not take their time and comfort a child who

has been poked and proded so much that simply turning on to the road where

the LabCorp Office is located sets the child off on a frenzy.

Jeanette

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my primary MD did tell me that.She said that she was on the fence with it

all.She feels its going undiagnosed in this area and has for years.she however

feels controversy about testing very intresting.She thinks that some of the

things my LLMD has to say make him appear to be a quack...she did feel thou that

he is more knowlegeable about tickborne disease than any other doctar in this

area as he spends alot of time researching it.i havent met dr masters yet.(he is

approx 4 hrs from here) however i have read alot of his published research

articles.

--- FindItOnTheNet@... wrote:

From: FindItOnTheNet@...

Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 21:00:44 EDT

Subject: [ ] Re: igenex

In a message dated 6/5/2005 6:18:21 AM Eastern Standard Time,

writes:

She said they think igenx testing is a hoax...i cant believe

this

That would make no sense, Igenex results also show people as

negative, my

coinfections came back 2 negative and one borderline..... they

make no money

from your treatment, only from the test so once they get the

money for the

test, they have nothing invested in whether someone is positive

or negative. I

am sure it has been checked as far as someone who has no

symptoms and never

been bit etc tested and if they were finding UNinfected people

as positive we

would have heard about it. And if they just kept faking it

it would be

apparent as when tests were coming back in droves as positive

in a town where

there were no ticks...... they never know when they are

being checked, ANY

test sent to them could be a STING to see if they were faking

so I dont think

they would risk it, they do too much business to risk it!

LOL Lyme is not

diagnosed just on the testing so dont worry, just go to a good

llmd and a test

will only HELP the doc diagnose you, but he should rely more

on your

symptoms. GOOD LUCK.

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In a message dated 11/26/2005 2:10:47 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

scorpionallure@... writes:

Muscle

pain and burning.

Exactly ...worst part for me is forearms (burning) palms of hands and feet

numb but SO PAINFUL !!! KNEES ...forget it !! SO PAINFUL !!!

Oh ..and fingers ! STIFF ! I do think a great deal of this pain could be

fibro ...my LLMD says its a COMBO ! I feel like something you should order in a

restaurant ! " YES ..I'll have the combo please " !!! lol ..NOT !!!

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