Lead

January 26, 2009

And don't forget that the FDA actually allowed lead in dishes! Amazing...

January 26, 2009

One last thing no one mentioned... old vinyl mini blinds. The older

blinds had lead in them and the sun deteriorates the blinds and then

the dust contains the lead. If a child were to put their hand on the

blind and then stick their fingers in their mouth, that could account

for a high lead count.

Also, I didn't see anyone answer your question about where to get the

kits. I have purchased them at Home Depot and I'm sure Lowe's and

other major dept. stores would have them too. The only thing is,

I've read that they can be inaccurate. Tests for lead in water can

be found online also.

>

> My 11 month old just had her blood level of lead tested and it came

back high (the test was done by her allopath pediatrician). I have no

idea where it's coming from. We live in a house built in the 1980's so

no lead paint. We eat off of glass dishes etc. She does sleep in a

room which is adjacent to a gas burner and hot water heater. Would

that cause any of this? She is also on supplments, do those contain

lead? My lead levels were fine. I am really frightened. Any advice

would be greatly appreciated. Christie

>

January 26, 2009

thanks. we have some old blinds but i don't know if they are vinyl or plastic.

Re: lead

Vaccinations

> One last thing no one mentioned... old vinyl mini blinds. The older

> blinds had lead in them and the sun deteriorates the blinds and then

> the dust contains the lead. If a child were to put their hand

> on the

> blind and then stick their fingers in their mouth, that could account

> for a high lead count.

>

> Also, I didn't see anyone answer your question about where to

> get the

> kits. I have purchased them at Home Depot and I'm sure Lowe's and

> other major dept. stores would have them too. The only thing is,

> I've read that they can be inaccurate. Tests for lead in water can

> be found online also.

>

> >

> > My 11 month old just had her blood level of lead tested and it came

> back high (the test was done by her allopath pediatrician). I

> have no

> idea where it's coming from. We live in a house built in the

> 1980's so

> no lead paint. We eat off of glass dishes etc. She does sleep in a

> room which is adjacent to a gas burner and hot water heater. Would

> that cause any of this? She is also on supplments, do those contain

> lead? My lead levels were fine. I am really frightened. Any advice

> would be greatly appreciated. Christie

> >

January 26, 2009

The tests at the pedis. are often false positives. They should be

offering you a second, more sensitive test - these usually come back

much lower (and are more accurate).

Melinda C.

>

> My 11 month old just had her blood level of lead tested and it came

back high (the test was done by her allopath pediatrician). I have no

idea where it's coming from. We live in a house built in the 1980's so

no lead paint. We eat off of glass dishes etc. She does sleep in a

room which is adjacent to a gas burner and hot water heater. Would

that cause any of this? She is also on supplments, do those contain

lead? My lead levels were fine. I am really frightened. Any advice

would be greatly appreciated. Christie

>

January 26, 2009

common sources of metals exposure here:

(http://www.danasview.net/metals.htm)

scroll down, the metals are alphabetical

HTH

ccomunal@... wrote: My 11 month old just

had her blood level of lead tested and it came back high (the test was done by

her allopath pediatrician). I have no idea where it's coming from. We live in a

house built in the 1980's so no lead paint. We eat off of glass dishes etc. She

does sleep in a room which is adjacent to a gas burner and hot water heater.

Would that cause any of this? She is also on supplments, do those contain lead?

My lead levels were fine. I am really frightened. Any advice would be greatly

appreciated. Christie

January 27, 2009

I just spoke with a DAN doctor who talked about IV chelation, that

scares me!!! she is only 11 months old. isn't there a less severe way

to handle this?

> > > > >

> > > > > > My 11 month old just had her blood level of lead

> > tested

> > > and it

> > > > came back

> > > > > > high (the test was done by her allopath pediatrician).

> > I

> > > have no

> > > > idea where

> > > > > > it's coming from. We live in a house built in the

> > 1980's

> > > so no

> > > > lead paint.

> > > > > > We eat off of glass dishes etc. She does sleep in a

> > room

> > > which is

> > > > adjacent

> > > > > > to a gas burner and hot water heater. Would that cause

> > any of

> > > > this? She is

> > > > > > also on supplments, do those contain lead? My lead

> > levels were

> > > > fine. I am

> > > > > > really frightened. Any advice would be greatly

appreciated.

> > > > Christie

> > > > > >

January 27, 2009

How high? Sometimes these " levels " are arbitrarily chosen. Was it from the

finger prick?

My second son had the finger prick and it came back high. I don't think they

washed the hand off--just pricked away (the ped was the one who pointed that out

later!). He subsequently had a blood test done from the arm that came back fine.

I don't know what to make of it except that I generally don't trust screening

tests.

Winnie

Re: lead

Vaccinations

> My 11 month old just had her blood level of lead tested and it

> came back high (the test was done by her allopath pediatrician).

> I have no idea where it's coming from. We live in a house built

> in the 1980's so no lead paint. We eat off of glass dishes etc.

> She does sleep in a room which is adjacent to a gas burner and

> hot water heater. Would that cause any of this? She is also on

> supplments, do those contain lead? My lead levels were fine. I

> am really frightened. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

> Christie

>

January 27, 2009

Hi Christie,

I think I remember seeing a list of supplements containing lead on

the FDA page.

Sorry, I don't have the link. Maybe you could search " FDA

and lead containing supplements " .

Was the test hard on your baby. How did she do? Maybe, you could

bring her in to someone else and test again.

what made the doctor request that type of test?

we have a gas furnace and purchased a gas detector. Our

inspector told us we had a small leak so, after it was fixed, we ran

out and bought one. I don't think that the gas would have anything to

do with lead, However.

Also...you can search for lead in toys on the net. Some sites have a

list of lead containing toys. I think there are home kits for lead

testing, too. .. not sure how well they work.

I would stop the vitamins until you know more.

I understand your concern, but maybe the test was wrong. Don't

panic....get her tested again by someone else. If it is the case, the

people on this list will help you. They are very knowledgeable. Could

you find a homeopath?

Wish you the best of luck

correy

On Jan 26, 2009, at 1:22 PM, Dawn wrote:

> What about her toys? A lot of toys have been found to have unsafe

> levels of lead....

>

> >

> > My 11 month old just had her blood level of lead tested and it came

> back high (the test was done by her allopath pediatrician). I have no

> idea where it's coming from. We live in a house built in the 1980's so

> no lead paint. We eat off of glass dishes etc. She does sleep in a

> room

> which is adjacent to a gas burner and hot water heater. Would that

> cause any of this? She is also on supplments, do those contain

> lead? My

> lead levels were fine. I am really frightened. Any advice would be

> greatly appreciated. Christie

> >

January 27, 2009

hi winnie, as always, your insight is great. it came back at 7.7 it was through

a toe prick. we had blood drawn from the arm this evening and will probably get

results in the next few days. I am wondering, i give our dd epsom salt baths,

wonder if that would bring toxins to the surface and the prick test picked that

up...just a thought. thanks, christie

Re: lead

> Vaccinations

>

> > My 11 month old just had her blood level of lead tested and it

> > came back high (the test was done by her allopath

> pediatrician).

> > I have no idea where it's coming from. We live in a house

> built

> > in the 1980's so no lead paint. We eat off of glass dishes

> etc.

> > She does sleep in a room which is adjacent to a gas burner and

> > hot water heater. Would that cause any of this? She is also on

> > supplments, do those contain lead? My lead levels were fine. I

> > am really frightened. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

> > Christie

> >

January 28, 2009

I believe the imported, older vinyl mini-blinds are the ones with lead

in them. Here's a good article, and on the last page there are a few

good links to different sites.

http://parenting.ivillage.com/baby/bsafety/0,,429c,00.html

>

> From: J lessard <jlessard1@...>

> Subject: Re: RE: Re: lead

> Vaccinations

> Date: Tuesday, January 27, 2009, 4:58 AM

>

> There shouldn't be 10 allowed on lead tests. There should be a trace

or nothing. I don't know why they allow 10 to be " safe " . Lead harms

undeveloped brains 4 times as bad as an adult's brain. They realy need

to lower the " safe " level to 0. My daughter's lead level was quite

elevated when she was a baby- 17, 12, 7, 5, 2, then not traceable in

blood tests. She was diagnosed with autism. She holds at not being on

the board for lead anymore but this should be considered a very

important priority for you. Do you have plastic mini-blinds? They also

contain lead. Adequate intake of magnesium & calcium & zinc can push

out the lead called passivation. Selenium then binds to lead. When

there is room for the lead to move in, I always question a child's

nutritional status. Jenn L

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September 12, 2009

Is it peeling or mostly sanded flat? If it is peeling, I don't know what I

would do, probably try to put wallpaper on it to see if it would stick.

If it is flat, this is what I would do. First, I would hire someone to

professionally clean the home while I am not there - including cleaning the

heating/air conditioning ducts. I would buy some primer and paint over it, then

put on two or three coats of high gloss paint. Make sure you wear a good mask

and your children are out of the house when you or whoever does it. Then, when

it is finished, take the best quality caulk (latex?) and caulk around all the

seams/edges/floorboards. This will keep the paint from chipping around the

edges.

Honestly, if I had the money, I would have it professionally cleaned again when

I was done to make sure all the dust is gone that could have been disturbed from

the painting.

If you have preferences for cleaning supplies that are environmentally and

people safe/natural, then you could provide them to the cleaners to use.

>

> I bought a lead test yesterday from B & Q (we are in the UK) to check our flat.

I had not expected to find anything but I got just one just in case. We have

striped old doors in all the rooms and also wood stripped around one of the

windows. We live in an old building built around

> 1884. The instruction on the test say rub for 30 sec. I tocuched one of the

doors and the test turned BRIGHT RED WITHIN 2 SECONDS!!!!!!!!! I think lead

could be on all the doors and the window frames. What do I do about it?

> The doors were stripped before we got the flat. Same with the window frame. I

have a feeling the girl who lived here did it by herself. It looks like she used

heat to remove the paint from the window frame-not sure about the doors- there

is no more paint so I presume it has to be lead dust left on them. She probably

used heat or chemical striper and then sanded off what was left:(((. What can I

do with it? Is there a point to start chelation when lead is present in the

house????

> OK now I'm seriously worried.I feel like I'm going to be sick, and I have an

explenation why my child got worse after we moved here...

>

September 13, 2009

Stripping it does not remove the lead from the wood. You'd have to either

repaint them all using a primer and then a good quality semi gloss to seal the

lead in, or have the woodwork replaced completely with new wood. (Lead is a

Silent Hazard book)

The gal who used heat to remove the paint has lead poisoning now because she

vaporized the lead paint and any sanding she did released lead dust into the

flat.

According to the research I did on lead removal and lead contamination stripping

the paint does not remove the lead from the wood. This is why those test strips

are turning pink. Rather than it being just dust. If it were just dust then you

could clean the wood and redo the strip and it would not turn pink. But I bet it

will. 1884 leaves many many years of lead paint soaking into the lumber.

Your options are to move or have all that wood painted or replaced. And then

have the flat tested by a Lead specialist.

Or move. Is that possible for you to move? I mean if you wish to get the kids

lead free anyway. Since your child got worse after moving there.....I beleive

there is a lead problem.

It will be like climbing uphill to chelate them if they are just getting more

lead every day.

Do they have a Lead prevention program in where you live? This is where they

come and test and then abate the lead. I don't know if they have that in the UK

like we do here.

Sorry, wish I had better news.

>

> >

> > I bought a lead test yesterday from B & Q (we are in the UK) to check our

flat. I had not expected to find anything but I got just one just in case. We

have striped old doors in all the rooms and also wood stripped around one of the

windows. We live in an old building built around

> > 1884. The instruction on the test say rub for 30 sec. I tocuched one of the

doors and the test turned BRIGHT RED WITHIN 2 SECONDS!!!!!!!!! I think lead

could be on all the doors and the window frames. What do I do about it?

> > The doors were stripped before we got the flat. Same with the window frame.

I have a feeling the girl who lived here did it by herself. It looks like she

used heat to remove the paint from the window frame-not sure about the doors-

there is no more paint so I presume it has to be lead dust left on them. She

probably used heat or chemical striper and then sanded off what was left:(((.

What can I do with it? Is there a point to start chelation when lead is present

in the house????

> > OK now I'm seriously worried.I feel like I'm going to be sick, and I have an

explenation why my child got worse after we moved here...

> >

>

September 13, 2009

quick thoughts...painting over works short term. wet dusting for cleaning, a

" wet " vacuum, if possible. lead absorbed easily by injestion, not so much by

skin. Chelation should be fine.

Our combating lead range of foods include(d) things like romaine, peanut butter,

canteloupe, green beans, lemon water - lemonade, no sugar Things like green

leafies, proteins, calcium rich foods, vit C foods. We also had things like Vit

E & milk thistle that we took/take regularly & often. Cadmium is synergistic.

Zinc is now on my list of " lead " related things to do, also. pumpkin seeds,

sunflowers seeds. Avocados have appreciable amounts of vit E, among other

things.

elizabeth