Guest guest Posted September 23, 2004 Report Share Posted September 23, 2004 My grandson is 3 now and he had just turned 2 when he was diagnoised. We went through this a year ago. The waking screaming in the middle of the night and a 2 year old that would try and get out of bed and fall. He couldn't walk. He quit running and started crawling, dragging his left leg. When the stiffness would get better, he would limp. This was all in the matter of a few days. It is difficult to hear that your child has anything let alone this mysterious monster called JRA. I am far from the expert in this group as Garrett has only had 1 major flare and was treated aggressively from the 1st onset and responded well to the Motrin and now the Enbrel. BUT if you need to talk, this group is a great place, very supportive and understanding and you can always write me. Just think, you may have caught the monster before he got ahold on your precious angel. The earlier it can be caught and treated, the better. It seems from what I experienced and the stories I have heard, you were fortunate in a quick diagnosis and not put through the " oh its just growing pains " routine. You have a doctor that is aware which is the 1st step. By the way, Garrett did start running again 2 months ago and was able to ride his big boy bike about 2 weeks after that. We were all so happy that we were crying like babies:) Kris (Garrettt 3, Poly/Systemic) make_simple_it <wilkinsonam@...> wrote: I took my son to the doctor today because the last 3 days he has been waking up and crying that he can't walk. I thought they doctor would tell me that he had a flu or something that was making him dehydrated and the joints were " letting us know " . I sat there and was asked a million questions and about fell over when they told me that that think my 3 year old son has JRA. Never in a million years would I have thought kids could be affected. My husbans family has a history and my son fits all the " symptoms " fevers, knee pain, morning stiffness......I will get the results on Friday anyone who is going through this- I NEED TO TALK..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2004 Report Share Posted September 23, 2004 we all know what your going threw.. thats why we are here.. when m y daughter was 5 she would wake up and complain it hurt to walk and i thought maybe she had slept wrong or somthing , then it was happening every day and i started takeing her to the doctor every week and they kept telling me it was growing pains. it took me about 7 months to really find out the truth that was after blood work, x-rays, Dr's, bone scan and even shriner's ( who said nothing was wrong with her ) thats when i took her to a rhummy myself and the walls came crashing down. i have worked in a nursing home for 13 years now and take care of the elderly with Arthritis i never expected it to be my 5 year old ( she is 10 now).. good luck to you and welcome.. kellie & poly _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2004 Report Share Posted September 23, 2004 -hi, Im sorry you are going though this... the beginning is always the scariest. Unfortunatly there are many children who are even younger than your son who have JRA. There is no known test for JRA, but rather a series of eliminations and history taking. Start keeping a journal of your sons sypmtoms, if he has a temp, when, how high, any rashes. which joints hurt. its hard when the kids are so young, but any info you can give the dcotors will help. Are you seeing a pediatric rhuematologist?? Did they take a bunch of bllod at the exam. They will be able to rule out a lot of things with this and also check for some signs of immflamtion within your sons body with the SED rate and CRP... good luck and we are all here if you need to talk. hugs Helen and (7,systemic) -- In , " make_simple_it " <wilkinsonam@y...> wrote: > I took my son to the doctor today because the last 3 days he has > been waking up and crying that he can't walk. I thought they doctor > would tell me that he had a flu or something that was making him > dehydrated and the joints were " letting us know " . I sat there and > was asked a million questions and about fell over when they told me > that that think my 3 year old son has JRA. Never in a million years > would I have thought kids could be affected. My husbans family has > a history and my son fits all the " symptoms " fevers, knee pain, > morning stiffness......I will get the results on Friday anyone who > is going through this- I NEED TO TALK..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2004 Report Share Posted September 23, 2004 I am sorry to hear that your son is hurting. Please ask any and all questions here. You are bound to find someone who has experienced the same situation. This is a wonderful and caring group of people. We are here to listen and help. I am thinking they drew blood and that is what results you are waiting for. Please let us know what the results say. What type of autoimmune disorders are in your husband's family? JRA? Perhaps they can offer some insight too. Take care. Patty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 You said that you were laid off in June from the office job, didn't qualify for unemployement then? Why did you take a job that is more physical than the last one? V. --------------------------------- Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Autos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 I did qualify for unemployment for the job for which I was laid off. I took the hospital job because I feared that when the unemployment ran out, there would be no jobs available, not even the hospital job. Maybe I jumped in to it too soon. My back, my hip caused me pain long ago but I figured at that level, it was something I could live with. I wasn't counting on the pain getting worse than it was. In West Virginia if you quit a job, you're not eligible for unemployment benefits, so, I can't quit the hospital job and if I do, there won't be any money at all coming in. I have several health conditions, so, getting help for them, including my arthritis would be considered a pre-existing condition. My current insurance won't cover them for a year. I use NASIDs but I also have a deep vein thrombosis, a blood clot, in my left leg for which I take warfrin, a blood thinner. (It's cheap with the Walmart generics). Because of the blood thinner, I have to be very very careful because NASIDs also thin out your blood. As I'm sure all of us on this list do, I have my days when I feel sorry for myself. But still, I can't figure how to extricate myself from my current situation -- being in so much pain and being unable to do much about it. Thanks for listening, everyone. in West Virginia, where the hot October weather is expected to end tomorrow. --------------------------------- Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Autos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2007 Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 Truly, I don't know about where you live but if you were in Pennsylvania, you could have received unemployment for, what is it, a year or 18 months. They would have also helped you to find a job when you unemployment was nearing the end. I am sorry that you didn't accept it when you were laid off. V.V. --------------------------------- Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Answers - Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 Sorry to hear you have fared so badly on the levothyroxine Angie. If I recall, you started on yours a couple of weeks before I started my levothyroxine trial. What you said your message screams out that you have some sort of intolerence to the common fillers used in pills. My levothyroxine contains lactose and maize starch (bet it is from a GM source too, oh dear) - both of which can produce the symptoms you describe. A while back, there was a TV program about a woman who is so sensitive to maize starch that she almost died. I think she then had a test on the NHS which indicated she basically had to avoid most prescription drugs. Maize starch intolerence is becoming more common in the general population (because it has been genetically modified, perhaps?)but may only manifest as tummy upsets/headaches/not feeling well, etc - all of which get blamed on the conditions for which the medication was prescribed. If you get tested for intolerances and it is proven that you are sensitive to the fillers, don't panic! There is someone on this forum who is taking liquid thyroxine and that could be the way forward for you too. As for my thyroxine trial, I have not had any effects whatsoever, good or bad - apart from the wobbly day which could have been due more to my ears being affected by changes in air pressure. No difference even though I've upped the dose to 50mcg. I'm beginning to wonder whether I have been given a placebo or fakes! Mind you, I didn't absorb any iron from iron pills with the same fillers as my thyroxine. If the same non-absorbtion is happening with the thyroxine, it should show on my blood tests as the TSH should remain unchanged. If that happens, I'm going to try to push for liquid thyroxine too! Tracey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 Hi , Thanks for that. Yes, I did look at that, I seem to be a mixture of adrenal and hypo symptoms. I've stopped the levothyroxine now and my headaches are not as bad, but they're still there. They seem to be triggered everytime I eat, particularly in the morning, so I'm beginning to think I have some sort of intolerance to something in the pills that is also in what I'm eating. I'm thinking of getting an allergy test done, but they are expensive so will have to think about it a bit more. I've been on medications before and ended up with really bad headaches. I've been trying to dig out all the info leaflets for them to see what ingredients they have to see if there is a common denominator. Angie > > Hi Angie, > Have you looked at the comparative hypo/adrenal questionnaire on > http://www.drrind.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 Hi Angie, If I was you I'd look at milk first. Stopping milk reduced the number and severity of my migraines. Lactose is in thyroxine pills. Subject: Re: Don't know what to do Hi , Thanks for that. Yes, I did look at that, I seem to be a mixture of adrenal and hypo symptoms. I've stopped the levothyroxine now and my headaches are not as bad, but they're still there. They seem to be triggered everytime I eat, particularly in the morning, so I'm beginning to think I have some sort of intolerance to something in the pills that is also in what I'm eating. I'm thinking of getting an allergy test done, but they are expensive so will have to think about it a bit more. I've been on medications before and ended up with really bad headaches. I've been trying to dig out all the info leaflets for them to see what ingredients they have to see if there is a common denominator. Angie > > Hi Angie, > Have you looked at the comparative hypo/adrenal questionnaire on > http://www.drrind.com > ------------------------------------ Messages are not a substitute for professional medical advice. Always consult with a suitably qualified practitioner before changing medication. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 Hi , I think you may be right. I've had a similar reaction before, but not such bad headaches. Certainly had the same stomach problems before and it was when I was taking Nytol, the antihystamine one. I had a look at what's in it, and it has almost the same stuff as the levothyroxine pills I was taking. The only thing is, if I am lactose intollerant, why do I only get really severe gastro and headache symptoms when I take pills with it in? I eat and drink loads of things with milk in, and have had bad stomach problems before, but usually only when I am on some medication of some sort. I'm pretty sure I've got some sort of allergy going on as since I've stopped the levothyroxine, my headaches aren't as bad, but they're still there and they always seem to get worse after I've eaten, but not necessarily when I've had milk. My stomachs still a bit iffy too. I've still got pressure in my nose which I've had since before starting on the levothyroxine, and my eyes are dreadful, really sore itchy and dry. Angie > > Hi Angie, > If I was you I'd look at milk first. Stopping milk reduced the > number and severity of my migraines. Lactose is in thyroxine pills. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 Hi Angie, I too used to drink and eat lots of things with milk in- almost like an addiction. It is quite hard to avoid with an English diet. I stopped all milk and dairy for a month then drank a glass of milk- boy did I react! I nearly collapsed, so don't try this at home!!! It was only on avoidance that the problem became unmasked. I can now eat small amounts of non cow dairy and a little cow dairy if I expect a runny nose in the morning. Stopping dairy did have an effect on my migraines, but it wasn't until I changed to Armour that I put the problem behind me. I have only had 2 in the past 8 years, both when I was under great stress. Hope this helps. Subject: Re: Don't know what to do Hi , I think you may be right. I've had a similar reaction before, but not such bad headaches. Certainly had the same stomach problems before and it was when I was taking Nytol, the antihystamine one. I had a look at what's in it, and it has almost the same stuff as the levothyroxine pills I was taking. The only thing is, if I am lactose intollerant, why do I only get really severe gastro and headache symptoms when I take pills with it in? I eat and drink loads of things with milk in, and have had bad stomach problems before, but usually only when I am on some medication of some sort. I'm pretty sure I've got some sort of allergy going on as since I've stopped the levothyroxine, my headaches aren't as bad, but they're still there and they always seem to get worse after I've eaten, but not necessarily when I've had milk. My stomachs still a bit iffy too. I've still got pressure in my nose which I've had since before starting on the levothyroxine, and my eyes are dreadful, really sore itchy and dry. Angie > > Hi Angie, > If I was you I'd look at milk first. Stopping milk reduced the > number and severity of my migraines. Lactose is in thyroxine pills. > > > ======================================================================== Groups related to thyroid treatment ======================================================================== NaturalThyroidHormones (23 common members) NaturalThyroidHormones?v=1 & t=ipt & ch=email & pub= groups & slk=aftr0 & sec=recg Thyroid Disease/Hypothyroidism: Welcome! For decades, doctors have prescribed T4-o... NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS (14 common members) NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS?v=1 & t=ipt & ch=em ail & pub=groups & slk=aftr1 & sec=recg Thyroid Disease/Hypothyroidism: Welcome to the NTH " ADRENALS " group, which is a co... thyroid (13 common members) thyroid?v=1 & t=ipt & ch=email & pub=groups & slk=aftr 2 & sec=recg Diseases and Conditions/Thyroid Disease: A open forum for discussion of thyroid disease, in... EuroLyme (5 common members) EuroLyme?v=1 & t=ipt & ch=email & pub=groups & slk=aft r3 & sec=recg Diseases and Conditions/Lyme Disease: Welcome to EuroLyme the UK based European site whe... ------------------------------------ Messages are not a substitute for professional medical advice. Always consult with a suitably qualified practitioner before changing medication. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 Unfortunately, Dr Simeons said that the weight would be regained more easily if you did less than 20 "effective" injections. He considers the first three injections non-effective, so he wants you to have 23 doses before quitting. I wish that there was a fix for this, but circumstances have worked out for you so that you may not be able to stabilize. Try upping your fat content of meals for a day or two. How many calories are you supposed to have to maintain your weight? You might not be eating enough, strange as it seems. Hope you get more hCG soon and can start again. Hope that the suggestions help you. CC Guide to Implementing the Weight Loss Cure http://www.weightlosscureonline.com DO NOT ORDER FROM THE LINK ABOVE. As a member of this group, you can get my over 100-page eBook for $19.95 by sending it to me at this email address (apracticalidealist at dot com) through PayPal "Send Money" tab on www.paypal.com. Then I email you the eBook. I cannot refund the discount to you if you order from www.weightlosscureonline.com by mistake. ALERT: Please use an email that is NOT comcast.net since the files cannot be sent there successfully. PayPal tries to get you to use your checking account rather than a credit card if you have multiple forms of payment set up. However, this causes a week's wait until your eCheck clears before I can send your eBook. For faster access to the eBook, use a credit card instead if you can. From: pb <toothcleaner1@...> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 5:13:14 AMSubject: Don't know what to do This was my third round of Hcg. Unfortunately I was unable to continue the injections past 17 days and I am unable to get any more syringes at this time. I have followed the rule of 2 lbs over your LSW and you do a steak, but I have only been off for 4 days and am already on my second steak day. I did loose about 8-9 lbs from my LSW of round 2 on this round of injections. Have I totally screwed up here? Which LSW should I go with now since I don't know if 17 injections and VLCD have taken hold? I'm lost and don't want to have to continue doing steak every other day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 Whoops, I meant more syringes. You know, you could have continued if you had more hCG mix and just used it sublingually. Even hCG mixed for injections could be used under your tongue with just the bacteriostatic water as your mix. I've seen folks be successful with that. You do have to use twice as much, as you dose twice a day sublingually. CC Guide to Implementing the Weight Loss Cure http://www.weightlosscureonline.com DO NOT ORDER FROM THE LINK ABOVE. As a member of this group, you can get my over 100-page eBook for $19.95 by sending it to me at this email address (apracticalidealist at dot com) through PayPal "Send Money" tab on www.paypal.com. Then I email you the eBook. I cannot refund the discount to you if you order from www.weightlosscureonline.com by mistake. ALERT: Please use an email that is NOT comcast.net since the files cannot be sent there successfully. PayPal tries to get you to use your checking account rather than a credit card if you have multiple forms of payment set up. However, this causes a week's wait until your eCheck clears before I can send your eBook. For faster access to the eBook, use a credit card instead if you can. From: "apracticalidealist@..." <apracticalidealist@...> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 9:10:19 AMSubject: Re: Don't know what to do Unfortunately, Dr Simeons said that the weight would be regained more easily if you did less than 20 "effective" injections. He considers the first three injections non-effective, so he wants you to have 23 doses before quitting. I wish that there was a fix for this, but circumstances have worked out for you so that you may not be able to stabilize. Try upping your fat content of meals for a day or two. How many calories are you supposed to have to maintain your weight? You might not be eating enough, strange as it seems. Hope you get more hCG soon and can start again. Hope that the suggestions help you. CC Guide to Implementing the Weight Loss Cure http://www.weightlo sscureonline. com DO NOT ORDER FROM THE LINK ABOVE. As a member of this group, you can get my over 100-page eBook for $19.95 by sending it to me at this email address (apracticalidealist at dot com) through PayPal "Send Money" tab on www.paypal.com. Then I email you the eBook. I cannot refund the discount to you if you order from www.weightlosscureo nline.com by mistake. ALERT: Please use an email that is NOT comcast.net since the files cannot be sent there successfully. PayPal tries to get you to use your checking account rather than a credit card if you have multiple forms of payment set up. However, this causes a week's wait until your eCheck clears before I can send your eBook. For faster access to the eBook, use a credit card instead if you can. From: pb <toothcleaner1>Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 5:13:14 AMSubject: Don't know what to do This was my third round of Hcg. Unfortunately I was unable to continue the injections past 17 days and I am unable to get any more syringes at this time. I have followed the rule of 2 lbs over your LSW and you do a steak, but I have only been off for 4 days and am already on my second steak day. I did loose about 8-9 lbs from my LSW of round 2 on this round of injections. Have I totally screwed up here? Which LSW should I go with now since I don't know if 17 injections and VLCD have taken hold? I'm lost and don't want to have to continue doing steak every other day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 CC, What is the reason behind mixing the HCG a different way instead of just using it just as i mix it for injections? Have a great day!! Darena From: "apracticalidealist@..." <apracticalidealist@...> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 9:12:54 AMSubject: Re: Don't know what to do Whoops, I meant more syringes. You know, you could have continued if you had more hCG mix and just used it sublingually. Even hCG mixed for injections could be used under your tongue with just the bacteriostatic water as your mix. I've seen folks be successful with that. You do have to use twice as much, as you dose twice a day sublingually. CC Guide to Implementing the Weight Loss Cure http://www.weightlo sscureonline. com DO NOT ORDER FROM THE LINK ABOVE. As a member of this group, you can get my over 100-page eBook for $19.95 by sending it to me at this email address (apracticalidealist at dot com) through PayPal "Send Money" tab on www.paypal.com. Then I email you the eBook. I cannot refund the discount to you if you order from www.weightlosscureo nline.com by mistake. ALERT: Please use an email that is NOT comcast.net since the files cannot be sent there successfully. PayPal tries to get you to use your checking account rather than a credit card if you have multiple forms of payment set up. However, this causes a week's wait until your eCheck clears before I can send your eBook. For faster access to the eBook, use a credit card instead if you can. From: "apracticalidealist @" <apracticalidealist>Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 9:10:19 AMSubject: Re: Don't know what to do Unfortunately, Dr Simeons said that the weight would be regained more easily if you did less than 20 "effective" injections. He considers the first three injections non-effective, so he wants you to have 23 doses before quitting. I wish that there was a fix for this, but circumstances have worked out for you so that you may not be able to stabilize. Try upping your fat content of meals for a day or two. How many calories are you supposed to have to maintain your weight? You might not be eating enough, strange as it seems. Hope you get more hCG soon and can start again. Hope that the suggestions help you. CC Guide to Implementing the Weight Loss Cure http://www.weightlo sscureonline. com DO NOT ORDER FROM THE LINK ABOVE. As a member of this group, you can get my over 100-page eBook for $19.95 by sending it to me at this email address (apracticalidealist at dot com) through PayPal "Send Money" tab on www.paypal.com. Then I email you the eBook. I cannot refund the discount to you if you order from www.weightlosscureo nline.com by mistake. ALERT: Please use an email that is NOT comcast.net since the files cannot be sent there successfully. PayPal tries to get you to use your checking account rather than a credit card if you have multiple forms of payment set up. However, this causes a week's wait until your eCheck clears before I can send your eBook. For faster access to the eBook, use a credit card instead if you can. From: pb <toothcleaner1>Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 5:13:14 AMSubject: Don't know what to do This was my third round of Hcg. Unfortunately I was unable to continue the injections past 17 days and I am unable to get any more syringes at this time. I have followed the rule of 2 lbs over your LSW and you do a steak, but I have only been off for 4 days and am already on my second steak day. I did loose about 8-9 lbs from my LSW of round 2 on this round of injections. Have I totally screwed up here? Which LSW should I go with now since I don't know if 17 injections and VLCD have taken hold? I'm lost and don't want to have to continue doing steak every other day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 People mix sublingual with things other than bacteriostatic water for different reasons. That's why there are so many different "formulas" for sublingual. Some use alcohol or colloidal silver for preservation and absorption enhancement purposes. Some add B-12 for energy and because it is already mixed for optimal absorption sublingually if you get the liquid sublingual B-12 to use. Some feel that B-12 degrades the hCG faster if it is in the hCG mix the whole time, and add it at the time of dosing only or take it separately. CC Guide to Implementing the Weight Loss Cure http://www.weightlosscureonline.com DO NOT ORDER FROM THE LINK ABOVE. As a member of this group, you can get my over 100-page eBook for $19.95 by sending it to me at this email address (apracticalidealist at dot com) through PayPal "Send Money" tab on www.paypal.com. Then I email you the eBook. I cannot refund the discount to you if you order from www.weightlosscureonline.com by mistake. ALERT: Please use an email that is NOT comcast.net since the files cannot be sent there successfully. PayPal tries to get you to use your checking account rather than a credit card if you have multiple forms of payment set up. However, this causes a week's wait until your eCheck clears before I can send your eBook. For faster access to the eBook, use a credit card instead if you can. From: Darena <ddhise@...> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 10:30:04 PMSubject: Re: Don't know what to do CC, What is the reason behind mixing the HCG a different way instead of just using it just as i mix it for injections? Have a great day!! Darena From: "apracticalidealist @" <apracticalidealist>Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 9:12:54 AMSubject: Re: Don't know what to do Whoops, I meant more syringes. You know, you could have continued if you had more hCG mix and just used it sublingually. Even hCG mixed for injections could be used under your tongue with just the bacteriostatic water as your mix. I've seen folks be successful with that. You do have to use twice as much, as you dose twice a day sublingually. CC Guide to Implementing the Weight Loss Cure http://www.weightlo sscureonline. com DO NOT ORDER FROM THE LINK ABOVE. As a member of this group, you can get my over 100-page eBook for $19.95 by sending it to me at this email address (apracticalidealist at dot com) through PayPal "Send Money" tab on www.paypal.com. Then I email you the eBook. I cannot refund the discount to you if you order from www.weightlosscureo nline.com by mistake. ALERT: Please use an email that is NOT comcast.net since the files cannot be sent there successfully. PayPal tries to get you to use your checking account rather than a credit card if you have multiple forms of payment set up. However, this causes a week's wait until your eCheck clears before I can send your eBook. For faster access to the eBook, use a credit card instead if you can. From: "apracticalidealist @" <apracticalidealist>Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 9:10:19 AMSubject: Re: Don't know what to do Unfortunately, Dr Simeons said that the weight would be regained more easily if you did less than 20 "effective" injections. He considers the first three injections non-effective, so he wants you to have 23 doses before quitting. I wish that there was a fix for this, but circumstances have worked out for you so that you may not be able to stabilize. Try upping your fat content of meals for a day or two. How many calories are you supposed to have to maintain your weight? You might not be eating enough, strange as it seems. Hope you get more hCG soon and can start again. Hope that the suggestions help you. CC Guide to Implementing the Weight Loss Cure http://www.weightlo sscureonline. com DO NOT ORDER FROM THE LINK ABOVE. As a member of this group, you can get my over 100-page eBook for $19.95 by sending it to me at this email address (apracticalidealist at dot com) through PayPal "Send Money" tab on www.paypal.com. Then I email you the eBook. I cannot refund the discount to you if you order from www.weightlosscureo nline.com by mistake. ALERT: Please use an email that is NOT comcast.net since the files cannot be sent there successfully. PayPal tries to get you to use your checking account rather than a credit card if you have multiple forms of payment set up. However, this causes a week's wait until your eCheck clears before I can send your eBook. For faster access to the eBook, use a credit card instead if you can. From: pb <toothcleaner1>Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 5:13:14 AMSubject: Don't know what to do This was my third round of Hcg. Unfortunately I was unable to continue the injections past 17 days and I am unable to get any more syringes at this time. I have followed the rule of 2 lbs over your LSW and you do a steak, but I have only been off for 4 days and am already on my second steak day. I did loose about 8-9 lbs from my LSW of round 2 on this round of injections. Have I totally screwed up here? Which LSW should I go with now since I don't know if 17 injections and VLCD have taken hold? I'm lost and don't want to have to continue doing steak every other day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 Hi all, there is a lot going on here and I don't know where to start...I guess I should tell you my son will soon be 5 years old and he is PDD-NOS but as of late he has regressed and I'm seeing even more autistic behaviors from him. i'm afraid I'm losing him. I was chelating him with ALA only but I stopped after the 9 round because I had a baby and she was in our bedroom. She wakes up very easily and I didn't want to chelate my son because I didn't want her to wake up and there I would be up half the night. In the pass year my son has developed a leaky gut, yeast, more food intolerance, OCD and his stimming has gotten way out of control. Also he has brain inflammation. We did a test from Genova that showed that he has high levels of arsenic and antimony in his urine, also some lead but not high. We did a hair analysis for genova and it showed high arsenic, antimony and gadolinium was off the chart. I want to start chelating him again but I'm not sure where to start. Should I use DMSA first? I don't have all the required vitamins in play yet but I feel i need to get on with it. Money is a big problem right now but I have ALA in my cabinet and I can start it anytime. Also he has complained of his right side hurting. It's up high where the liver and gall bladder is, he has a lot of gas too. Could a 5 year old have gall bladder problems? I'm confused, scared and need help. The vitamins and supplements he is taking now are Flax Oil Kavinace Probiotic Vitaspectrum from Klaire labs Vit D VitE Active B-12 w Folinic acid enzymes calcium L-theanine Vit C Zinc Magnesuim citrate His DAN wants me to start him SAMe 100 mg a day. Any comments would be appreciated. Janet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 Maybe the pain in the gut is just gas? You get him checked out at a regular pediatrician to rule out anything serious. No need to do DMSA first unless there has been a recent exposure. No Amalgam filling or recent removals? ALA is the most important because it removes metals from the brain. DMSA can increase the excretion of metals when used with ALA by approx. 20-30% according to Andy. We use ALA and DMSA together with our boys and we are making progress. TJ ________________________________ From: " jjpotter66@... " <jjpotter66@...> Sent: Mon, November 23, 2009 8:25:07 PM Subject: [ ] don't know what to do  Hi all, there is a lot going on here and I don't know where to start...I guess I should tell you my son will soon be 5 years old and he is PDD-NOS but as of late he has regressed and I'm seeing even more autistic behaviors from him. i'm afraid I'm losing him. I was chelating him with ALA only but I stopped after the 9 round because I had a baby and she was in our bedroom. She wakes up very easily and I didn't want to chelate my son because I didn't want her to wake up and there I would be up half the night. In the pass year my son has developed a leaky gut, yeast, more food intolerance, OCD and his stimming has gotten way out of control. Also he has brain inflammation. We did a test from Genova that showed that he has high levels of arsenic and antimony in his urine, also some lead but not high. We did a hair analysis for genova and it showed high arsenic, antimony and gadolinium was off the chart. I want to start chelating him again but I'm not sure where to start. Should I use DMSA first? I don't have all the required vitamins in play yet but I feel i need to get on with it. Money is a big problem right now but I have ALA in my cabinet and I can start it anytime. Also he has complained of his right side hurting. It's up high where the liver and gall bladder is, he has a lot of gas too. Could a 5 year old have gall bladder problems? I'm confused, scared and need help. The vitamins and supplements he is taking now are Flax Oil Kavinace Probiotic Vitaspectrum from Klaire labs Vit D VitE Active B-12 w Folinic acid enzymes calcium L-theanine Vit C Zinc Magnesuim citrate His DAN wants me to start him SAMe 100 mg a day. Any comments would be appreciated. Janet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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