Re: twice weekly chelation/using ALA

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In a message dated 09/12/2009 13:12:06 GMT Standard Time,

rhondagatewood84@... writes:

I've always used porphyrin tests or UTM's to see where our metal levels

are.

>>Congrats on your sons recovery. Just a word of caution neither a

porphyrins or UTM can tell you accurately the level of metals

Mandi in Uk

[Guest guest]

I do agree that you might be done for now, Rhonda. Take a look at using ALA

(oral) to remove that mercury stuck in the brain. All we have to go by are the

clues you leave in your emails. Some of the more experienced here have brought

up good points.

Use up to 1/2 mg per lb and use ALA frequently (every 3-4 hours for 72 hours,

you know the drill).

ALA is protective to the liver which will help him even more. You can do this

without a DAN! doctor. ALA (used the AC way)does not run the risk of lowering

neutrophils or messing with RBCs the way a synthetic chelator does (at least in

my experience here).

This warning is meant to help, not to slam you. I would so hate to see anything

go wrong after you had such a good outcome.

Pam

> > > >

> > > > > Rossignol recovered my son.

> > > >

> > > > As in he is completely normal now, no vitamins, no special diets,

indistinguishable from his peers even if he eats at Mc's 3 times a day?

Which is something normal kids can do and be fine?

> > > >

> > > > Andy

> > > >

> > > > http://www.noamalgam.com/index.html

> > > > Amalgam Illness: Diagnosis and Treatment

> > > >

> > > > http://www.noamalgam.com/hairtestbook.html

> > > > Hair Test Interpretation: Finding Hidden Toxicities

> > > >

> > > > http://www.noamalgam.com/nourishinghope.html

> > > > Nourishing Hope for Autism: Nutrition Intervention for Healing Our

Children

> > > >

> > > > http://www.noamalgam.com/biologicaltreatments.html

> > > > Biological Treatments for Autism and PDD

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you Pam...and I'm right there with you. My boy is happy and healthy

now...I don't want to go backwards.

So, you just use 1/2 mg per lb ALA every 3-4 hours? And what sort of testing do

you start with and retest with to see your results? I briefly used ALA when I

first started chelation at 24 months but was strongly urged to discontinue by

other moms. They said if I were chelating and using ALA...it might have the

opposite effect, pushing the redistributed metals into his brain. Never touched

it after they said that. I was too afraid.

I've always used porphyrin tests or UTM's to see where our metal levels are.

Rhonda

> > > > >

> > > > > > Rossignol recovered my son.

> > > > >

> > > > > As in he is completely normal now, no vitamins, no special diets,

indistinguishable from his peers even if he eats at Mc's 3 times a day?

Which is something normal kids can do and be fine?

> > > > >

> > > > > Andy

> > > > >

> > > > > http://www.noamalgam.com/index.html

> > > > > Amalgam Illness: Diagnosis and Treatment

> > > > >

> > > > > http://www.noamalgam.com/hairtestbook.html

> > > > > Hair Test Interpretation: Finding Hidden Toxicities

> > > > >

> > > > > http://www.noamalgam.com/nourishinghope.html

> > > > > Nourishing Hope for Autism: Nutrition Intervention for Healing Our

Children

> > > > >

> > > > > http://www.noamalgam.com/biologicaltreatments.html

> > > > > Biological Treatments for Autism and PDD

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I did start with 1/2 mg per lb for ALA. I think I mentioned earlier that I get

a CBC/metabolic panel run annually. My son is very healthy as far as bloodwork

goes, so I don't worry much about using blood as a monitor. I did have a

Porphryin test (French) last year which seemed to indicate lead was more of an

issue than mercury. UTMs show only lead coming out with sporadic mercury

excretion. He continues to improve with each round and I don't see any

negatives.

I use 25 mgs ALA and 25 mgs DMSA right now (62lbs). Both given 3-4 hours for 72

hours, around the clock. The last DDI UTM had lead AND aluminum (yeah! The

first time) in the green, but it was there. I'm increasing the DMSA a bit this

round. I use urine tests maybe twice a year at best because they haven't

matched the results I see with my eyes. I am going to test urine again after

2-3 rounds at the increased dose. My DAN! insists increasing DMSA will increase

excretion so we'll see how his theory holds. He wants me to go up to 100mgs per

dose but that won't happen.

He gets a mess of supplements. I haven't found a multi that I love so I give

all supps individually.

You have 2 choices: you can work to decrease brain mercury now when all is

going well or you can wait and see if problems arise and then tackle the brain

load. Between you and me (and everyone else), I don't know what I would do.

I'd kick myself if I did nothing and my child showed up with problems down the

line but I also would worry about 'rocking the boat' so to speak. When is it

all over? But, people here seem to think there are still metal issues with your

child based on what you say.

Good luck with your decision. There is no reliable way to measure mercury in

the brain aside from biopsy... and that isn't a good idea.

Pam

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Rossignol recovered my son.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > As in he is completely normal now, no vitamins, no special diets,

indistinguishable from his peers even if he eats at Mc's 3 times a day?

Which is something normal kids can do and be fine?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Andy

> > > > > >

> > > > > > http://www.noamalgam.com/index.html

> > > > > > Amalgam Illness: Diagnosis and Treatment

> > > > > >

> > > > > > http://www.noamalgam.com/hairtestbook.html

> > > > > > Hair Test Interpretation: Finding Hidden Toxicities

> > > > > >

> > > > > > http://www.noamalgam.com/nourishinghope.html

> > > > > > Nourishing Hope for Autism: Nutrition Intervention for Healing Our

Children

> > > > > >

> > > > > > http://www.noamalgam.com/biologicaltreatments.html

> > > > > > Biological Treatments for Autism and PDD

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I haven't read all the replies in this thread but I didn't see anyone mention

that there are cases of parents of kids who " recover " but who then regress into

autism months or years later. I've seen a couple of cases on this board and a

few on other boards and it is heartbreaking. One mom on this board cited

insufficient chelation as a reason (but not the only reason as I recall). Living

this lifestyle (chelating, restricting diet, supplements, therapies, etc) is

challenging enough but when I'm done with it, I'd like to put it in the past and

not have more issues rear their ugly heads later when my kids are teens and much

harder to chelate and control.

Rhonda, your son was lucky to benefit from the chelation protocol followed. A

similar protocol was proposed to me many months ago and I might have followed it

if I hadn't discovered Cutler and the folks on this list. I started my DD at

less than 1/8 mg/lb of DMSA and it was ( & still is) hard on her for some reason.

It has caused issues for her (resolvable issues) but I can't imagine what would

have happened had I given her a much higher dose.

I agree with Pam, and others that more chelation using ALA per the Cutler

approach will target mercury in the brain. Your boy got better from chelation,

so he has metals and it's a good bet that there are probably some in his brain.

Andy has suggested going chelation at the highest possible dose of chelator

(starting low and working up to 1/2 mg/lb) with NO effect whatsoever (positive

or negative) is another indicator for judging full recovery. If you see any

issues or benefits, you are moving metals and need to keep chelating.

Tests aren't reliable for assessing metals in the brain, but if you have to

choose one test, try the hair test. I'd be curious to see what they show for

your boy ;-)

I hope you stay on the list. Good luck.

>

> Thank you Pam...and I'm right there with you. My boy is happy and healthy

now...I don't want to go backwards.

>

> So, you just use 1/2 mg per lb ALA every 3-4 hours? And what sort of testing

do you start with and retest with to see your results? I briefly used ALA when

I first started chelation at 24 months but was strongly urged to discontinue by

other moms. They said if I were chelating and using ALA...it might have the

opposite effect, pushing the redistributed metals into his brain. Never touched

it after they said that. I was too afraid.

>

> I've always used porphyrin tests or UTM's to see where our metal levels are.

>

> Rhonda

[Guest guest]

> I haven't read all the replies in this thread but I didn't see anyone mention

that there are cases of parents of kids who " recover " but who then regress into

autism months or years later. I've seen a couple of cases on this board and a

few on other boards and it is heartbreaking.

ly I think in most of these cases the mother is delusional and the recovery

never happened.

I've certainly run across people who are all excited about whatever 'cured'

their kid, then a few months later their kid is autistic again, then another few

months later they're all excited about something else that 'cured' their kid,

etc.

Then there are the parents who do say their kids are cured but those who meet

the kids in person claim it is not so, the kid is far from cured.

This kind of dynamic is common in the adult toxic community - people (who

usually have a diagnosis like bipolar with delusions) keep being 'cured' by some

random thing, then a few months later that didn't do anything but they were now

'cured' by some other different sprinkle of magic pixie dust, and this goes on

forever. Of course, interacting with them, it is clear at all times they are

NOT recovered, they're just cycling and at certain parts of their cycle they

feel really good. It is based on this experience with adults that I believe it

is more likely the mother's perception that is changing than the child's

condition that is changing.

This is one of the reasons the internet is so difficult for people to use to

figure out what to do, it is not natural to be appropriately skeptical without

simply rejecting everything. Also all the subtle cues we'd easily pick up in

person that would cause us to question what we hear are not present. We tend to

believe the words on the screen when there is no context to compare them to.

> Rhonda, your son was lucky to benefit from the chelation protocol followed.

This being the current event of interest, did Rhonda's kid get all better or is

she someone else who will be talking about a new random cure in 6 months? I'm

sorry to sound so jaded and suspicious, honestly I do hope that her child really

is well and never has another problem. However the sudden appearance and high

volume of posts, and the comment someone else made about relevant history

(earlier reports of a problem from iv chelation) do create enough of the 'look

and feel' of prior events to make me reserve judgment until I have more

information.

I hope this helps explain some of why I try to get people to read books, to

study and understand things, and to talk to other parents or people who have

been doing this for a while so they have a better basis for chelating properly

than because Andy was really bombastic and said YOU HAVE TO DO IT THIS WAY!!!!!

I'd really like to help people break out of the dynamic that created snake oil

sales in the old days and DAN! doctor appointments today - relying only on what

you see and hear right here and right now and deciding that someone is 'smart'

and 'trustworthy' based on your immediate impressions.

I hope people will forgive me sometimes being cautious about whether I believe

them. Certainly this is even more important in the days of the internet, but I

don't think that there is any time in history where people were not well advised

to be a bit reserved and decide who was credible and who wasn't based on what

made sense and whether they consistently said the same thing over a period of

time.

Andy

http://www.noamalgam.com/index.html

Amalgam Illness: Diagnosis and Treatment

http://www.noamalgam.com/hairtestbook.html

Hair Test Interpretation: Finding Hidden Toxicities

http://www.noamalgam.com/nourishinghope.html

Nourishing Hope for Autism: Nutrition Intervention for Healing Our Children

http://www.noamalgam.com/biologicaltreatments.html

Biological Treatments for Autism and PDD

[Guest guest]

Andy, I am not delusional. I am not a liar. I was telling my story...and I

have documentation to back everything I said. I do not tell anyone of my son's

history. But if someone reaches out to me, I will try to help them.

I must say I'm surprised after all of your work you have not met any recovered

families who chelated under the DAN! protocol. I've heard nothing but good

things about you. I was told you are kind, dedicated, and tireless in helping

families. So, I'm shocked at the comments regarding me as if I wouldn't read

them.

I never announced my son's recovery for any purpose on this board other than

helping a mom who specifically asked " Truly, Truly, has anyone's child recovered

from chelation? " The mom seemed to be in a great deal of pain, and I know that

feeling very well. If there was a rash of posts its because I was getting it

from all sides and felt the need to answer questions, explain myself, and defend

myself. Clearly, although this is not promoted as an AC board only, it just is.

And any other protocol will be attacked. The person posting a different method

other than AC will be judged.

How sad for those who need the help. That was my only intention...to give it.

Rhonda

>

> > I haven't read all the replies in this thread but I didn't see anyone

mention that there are cases of parents of kids who " recover " but who then

regress into autism months or years later. I've seen a couple of cases on this

board and a few on other boards and it is heartbreaking.

>

> ly I think in most of these cases the mother is delusional and the

recovery never happened.

>

> I've certainly run across people who are all excited about whatever 'cured'

their kid, then a few months later their kid is autistic again, then another few

months later they're all excited about something else that 'cured' their kid,

etc.

>

> Then there are the parents who do say their kids are cured but those who meet

the kids in person claim it is not so, the kid is far from cured.

>

> This kind of dynamic is common in the adult toxic community - people (who

usually have a diagnosis like bipolar with delusions) keep being 'cured' by some

random thing, then a few months later that didn't do anything but they were now

'cured' by some other different sprinkle of magic pixie dust, and this goes on

forever. Of course, interacting with them, it is clear at all times they are

NOT recovered, they're just cycling and at certain parts of their cycle they

feel really good. It is based on this experience with adults that I believe it

is more likely the mother's perception that is changing than the child's

condition that is changing.

>

> This is one of the reasons the internet is so difficult for people to use to

figure out what to do, it is not natural to be appropriately skeptical without

simply rejecting everything. Also all the subtle cues we'd easily pick up in

person that would cause us to question what we hear are not present. We tend to

believe the words on the screen when there is no context to compare them to.

>

> > Rhonda, your son was lucky to benefit from the chelation protocol followed.

>

> This being the current event of interest, did Rhonda's kid get all better or

is she someone else who will be talking about a new random cure in 6 months?

I'm sorry to sound so jaded and suspicious, honestly I do hope that her child

really is well and never has another problem. However the sudden appearance and

high volume of posts, and the comment someone else made about relevant history

(earlier reports of a problem from iv chelation) do create enough of the 'look

and feel' of prior events to make me reserve judgment until I have more

information.

>

> I hope this helps explain some of why I try to get people to read books, to

study and understand things, and to talk to other parents or people who have

been doing this for a while so they have a better basis for chelating properly

than because Andy was really bombastic and said YOU HAVE TO DO IT THIS WAY!!!!!

I'd really like to help people break out of the dynamic that created snake oil

sales in the old days and DAN! doctor appointments today - relying only on what

you see and hear right here and right now and deciding that someone is 'smart'

and 'trustworthy' based on your immediate impressions.

>

> I hope people will forgive me sometimes being cautious about whether I believe

them. Certainly this is even more important in the days of the internet, but I

don't think that there is any time in history where people were not well advised

to be a bit reserved and decide who was credible and who wasn't based on what

made sense and whether they consistently said the same thing over a period of

time.

>

> Andy

>

> http://www.noamalgam.com/index.html

> Amalgam Illness: Diagnosis and Treatment

>

> http://www.noamalgam.com/hairtestbook.html

> Hair Test Interpretation: Finding Hidden Toxicities

>

> http://www.noamalgam.com/nourishinghope.html

> Nourishing Hope for Autism: Nutrition Intervention for Healing Our Children

>

> http://www.noamalgam.com/biologicaltreatments.html

> Biological Treatments for Autism and PDD

>

[Guest guest]

Please don't take offense from Andy's words. Understand that he has had

hundreds, maybe even thousands, of people who were improperly chelated, or

improperly chelate a child, approach him and want him to fix the problems from

the improper chelation. It is not easy, often impossible. He gets to see that

damage every day and it truly is sad, heart breaking really. I get to see that

damage often in the adult groups.

The damage that can be done from a protocol such as you used is horrific. That

is simply the truth. We are all pleased that your child got through it ok. No

one is judging you. We all know how difficult it is for the parents.

Somehow we must find the right words to explain to people where the high risks

are, and that it is possible to chelate and recover a child without taking those

high risks. It's sort of like Russian roulette, some get through it and some

don't. What we all want is what is best for the children. No one wants to see

them harmed further, especially Andy.

I truly believe that Andy has adopted his " bombastic " style as a way of getting

parents to stop and think again before doing something that could be very

harmful and irreversible for their child. Of course it is difficult when it is

doctors who are encouraging the parents to use those harmful protocols.

You can see that there are people who have followed this group for years and

they still don't see where the risks are.

> >

> > > I haven't read all the replies in this thread but I didn't see anyone

mention that there are cases of parents of kids who " recover " but who then

regress into autism months or years later. I've seen a couple of cases on this

board and a few on other boards and it is heartbreaking.

> >

> > ly I think in most of these cases the mother is delusional and the

recovery never happened.

> >

> > I've certainly run across people who are all excited about whatever 'cured'

their kid, then a few months later their kid is autistic again, then another few

months later they're all excited about something else that 'cured' their kid,

etc.

> >

> > Then there are the parents who do say their kids are cured but those who

meet the kids in person claim it is not so, the kid is far from cured.

> >

> > This kind of dynamic is common in the adult toxic community - people (who

usually have a diagnosis like bipolar with delusions) keep being 'cured' by some

random thing, then a few months later that didn't do anything but they were now

'cured' by some other different sprinkle of magic pixie dust, and this goes on

forever. Of course, interacting with them, it is clear at all times they are

NOT recovered, they're just cycling and at certain parts of their cycle they

feel really good. It is based on this experience with adults that I believe it

is more likely the mother's perception that is changing than the child's

condition that is changing.

> >

> > This is one of the reasons the internet is so difficult for people to use to

figure out what to do, it is not natural to be appropriately skeptical without

simply rejecting everything. Also all the subtle cues we'd easily pick up in

person that would cause us to question what we hear are not present. We tend to

believe the words on the screen when there is no context to compare them to.

> >

> > > Rhonda, your son was lucky to benefit from the chelation protocol

followed.

> >

> > This being the current event of interest, did Rhonda's kid get all better or

is she someone else who will be talking about a new random cure in 6 months?

I'm sorry to sound so jaded and suspicious, honestly I do hope that her child

really is well and never has another problem. However the sudden appearance and

high volume of posts, and the comment someone else made about relevant history

(earlier reports of a problem from iv chelation) do create enough of the 'look

and feel' of prior events to make me reserve judgment until I have more

information.

> >

> > I hope this helps explain some of why I try to get people to read books, to

study and understand things, and to talk to other parents or people who have

been doing this for a while so they have a better basis for chelating properly

than because Andy was really bombastic and said YOU HAVE TO DO IT THIS WAY!!!!!

I'd really like to help people break out of the dynamic that created snake oil

sales in the old days and DAN! doctor appointments today - relying only on what

you see and hear right here and right now and deciding that someone is 'smart'

and 'trustworthy' based on your immediate impressions.

> >

> > I hope people will forgive me sometimes being cautious about whether I

believe them. Certainly this is even more important in the days of the

internet, but I don't think that there is any time in history where people were

not well advised to be a bit reserved and decide who was credible and who wasn't

based on what made sense and whether they consistently said the same thing over

a period of time.

> >

> > Andy

> >

> > http://www.noamalgam.com/index.html

> > Amalgam Illness: Diagnosis and Treatment

> >

> > http://www.noamalgam.com/hairtestbook.html

> > Hair Test Interpretation: Finding Hidden Toxicities

> >

> > http://www.noamalgam.com/nourishinghope.html

> > Nourishing Hope for Autism: Nutrition Intervention for Healing Our Children

> >

> > http://www.noamalgam.com/biologicaltreatments.html

> > Biological Treatments for Autism and PDD

> >

>

[Guest guest]

> > Andy, I am not delusional. I am not a liar. I was telling my story...

Don't take it personally. I didn't say you were. I just said that since we

just met, and online only, I really don't know who you are and there are many

possibilities.

We're not on the list for social pleasantries or mutual support. We're here to

help unfortunate children who got poisoned by bad doctors get better. Sometimes

this requires being more frank than might be socially appropriate.

> > I must say I'm surprised after all of your work you have not met any

recovered families who chelated under the DAN! protocol.

ly, so am I. Certainly a lot of people do it and I don't lack for horror

stories. This does suggest it has a fairly low probability of really being

curative.

> > I'm shocked at the comments regarding me as if I wouldn't read them.

I expected you to read them. I also expected you to understand that we're not

here as a social club and to let it roll off your back. I was simply explaining

to people - including you - why I didn't immediately accept your information as

unquestionably correct.

> > defend myself.

You don't have to defend yourself either. I don't disbelieve you. I just don't

necessarily believe you either. I think it is reasonable for me to reserve

judgment for a while and thought it was appropriate to explain that I was doing

so, and why.

There are certainly situations where I reserve judgment in this way and things

turn out to be completely accurate and totally reasonable.

Andy

http://www.noamalgam.com/index.html

Amalgam Illness: Diagnosis and Treatment

http://www.noamalgam.com/hairtestbook.html

Hair Test Interpretation: Finding Hidden Toxicities

http://www.noamalgam.com/nourishinghope.html

Nourishing Hope for Autism: Nutrition Intervention for Healing Our Children

http://www.noamalgam.com/biologicaltreatments.html

Biological Treatments for Autism and PDD

[Guest guest]

I got the same " bombastic " attitude from Andy at the beginning too. I

was kind of stunned, but I so needed it. Hang in there. We all just

want you to stay and we want your child to be OK for the long run.

All we can do is give you the information so that you have it. I have

been trying to help my child for 9 years. The people here are the

only ones that have helped. Really! BTW... you sound like a great

mom, and a really kind caring person.

On Dec 10, 2009, at 12:19 AM, lindajaytee wrote:

> Please don't take offense from Andy's words. Understand that he has

> had hundreds, maybe even thousands, of people who were improperly

> chelated, or improperly chelate a child, approach him and want him

> to fix the problems from the improper chelation. It is not easy,

> often impossible. He gets to see that damage every day and it truly

> is sad, heart breaking really. I get to see that damage often in

> the adult groups.

>

> The damage that can be done from a protocol such as you used is

> horrific. That is simply the truth. We are all pleased that your

> child got through it ok. No one is judging you. We all know how

> difficult it is for the parents.

>

> Somehow we must find the right words to explain to people where the

> high risks are, and that it is possible to chelate and recover a

> child without taking those high risks. It's sort of like Russian

> roulette, some get through it and some don't. What we all want is

> what is best for the children. No one wants to see them harmed

> further, especially Andy.

>

> I truly believe that Andy has adopted his " bombastic " style as a

> way of getting parents to stop and think again before doing

> something that could be very harmful and irreversible for their

> child. Of course it is difficult when it is doctors who are

> encouraging the parents to use those harmful protocols.

>

> You can see that there are people who have followed this group for

> years and they still don't see where the risks are.

>

>

>

>

> > >

> > > > I haven't read all the replies in this thread but I didn't

> see anyone mention that there are cases of parents of kids who

> " recover " but who then regress into autism months or years later.

> I've seen a couple of cases on this board and a few on other boards

> and it is heartbreaking.

> > >

> > > ly I think in most of these cases the mother is delusional

> and the recovery never happened.

> > >

> > > I've certainly run across people who are all excited about

> whatever 'cured' their kid, then a few months later their kid is

> autistic again, then another few months later they're all excited

> about something else that 'cured' their kid, etc.

> > >

> > > Then there are the parents who do say their kids are cured but

> those who meet the kids in person claim it is not so, the kid is

> far from cured.

> > >

> > > This kind of dynamic is common in the adult toxic community -

> people (who usually have a diagnosis like bipolar with delusions)

> keep being 'cured' by some random thing, then a few months later

> that didn't do anything but they were now 'cured' by some other

> different sprinkle of magic pixie dust, and this goes on forever.

> Of course, interacting with them, it is clear at all times they are

> NOT recovered, they're just cycling and at certain parts of their

> cycle they feel really good. It is based on this experience with

> adults that I believe it is more likely the mother's perception

> that is changing than the child's condition that is changing.

> > >

> > > This is one of the reasons the internet is so difficult for

> people to use to figure out what to do, it is not natural to be

> appropriately skeptical without simply rejecting everything. Also

> all the subtle cues we'd easily pick up in person that would cause

> us to question what we hear are not present. We tend to believe the

> words on the screen when there is no context to compare them to.

> > >

> > > > Rhonda, your son was lucky to benefit from the chelation

> protocol followed.

> > >

> > > This being the current event of interest, did Rhonda's kid get

> all better or is she someone else who will be talking about a new

> random cure in 6 months? I'm sorry to sound so jaded and

> suspicious, honestly I do hope that her child really is well and

> never has another problem. However the sudden appearance and high

> volume of posts, and the comment someone else made about relevant

> history (earlier reports of a problem from iv chelation) do create

> enough of the 'look and feel' of prior events to make me reserve

> judgment until I have more information.

> > >

> > > I hope this helps explain some of why I try to get people to

> read books, to study and understand things, and to talk to other

> parents or people who have been doing this for a while so they have

> a better basis for chelating properly than because Andy was really

> bombastic and said YOU HAVE TO DO IT THIS WAY!!!!! I'd really like

> to help people break out of the dynamic that created snake oil

> sales in the old days and DAN! doctor appointments today - relying

> only on what you see and hear right here and right now and deciding

> that someone is 'smart' and 'trustworthy' based on your immediate

> impressions.

> > >

> > > I hope people will forgive me sometimes being cautious about

> whether I believe them. Certainly this is even more important in

> the days of the internet, but I don't think that there is any time

> in history where people were not well advised to be a bit reserved

> and decide who was credible and who wasn't based on what made sense

> and whether they consistently said the same thing over a period of

> time.

> > >

> > > Andy

> > >

> > > http://www.noamalgam.com/index.html

> > > Amalgam Illness: Diagnosis and Treatment

> > >

> > > http://www.noamalgam.com/hairtestbook.html

> > > Hair Test Interpretation: Finding Hidden Toxicities

> > >

> > > http://www.noamalgam.com/nourishinghope.html

> > > Nourishing Hope for Autism: Nutrition Intervention for Healing

> Our Children

> > >

> > > http://www.noamalgam.com/biologicaltreatments.html

> > > Biological Treatments for Autism and PDD

> > >

> >

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