Guest guest Posted January 18, 2000 Report Share Posted January 18, 2000 Hi All, Well, I've been wrestling with Kelsey's constipation issue on and off since she was just one! So I feel compelled to pass on more of my expertise. About using foods to relieve it—A good high fiber diet is definitely best, but it has it's limitations. First, picky eaters just won't do it. Kelsey has a list of about five foods she'll eat too. I can't believe I've lowered my standards to Lucky Charms for breakfast and letting her buy pizza daily at lunch! I've always been very nutrition conscious but have found over time that it's not worth the tummy aches at school because she just had two bites of toast or tossed her sandwich and is hungry! Secondly, if a child (or anyone) is already constipated, your excellent diet won't do you any good. If the stool is hard and impacted then you have to get it out of there using mineral oil (blech!), Malt Soupex, magnesium, or something else. Once the stool is soft and passing regularly, then a good diet will keep things moving along. Re: using senna, I tried these in a capsule form for Kelsey, but the nutritionist counseled me away from it, saying it was a very strong herb. Even the pediatrician recommended I use these only briefly in an emergency situation because her system could come to rely on it. So there you have it...go for the magnesium! Take care, in San Diego Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2000 Report Share Posted January 18, 2000 HI and all, Roman wrote: > > I can't believe I've lowered my standards to Lucky Charms > for breakfast and letting her buy pizza daily at lunch! I had to laugh when I read this. I would so much rather pack andra's lunch than let her eat the non-wonderful school lunch, but what I pack just comes back uneaten. Especially if I pack the dreaded fruit, which she simply can't be seen eating in front of the other kids. Too uncool! Last time she took her lunch she left a half-eaten container of yogurt in her lunch box which then set off an ant invasion in the classroom. And since andra has major OCD issues with ants, it made for quite a lively afternoon. ) Anyway, thanks for the good information, Chris. Take care all, Lesli (S.F. Bay) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2000 Report Share Posted January 19, 2000 >Roman wrote: > > > > I can't believe I've lowered my standards to Lucky Charms > > for breakfast and letting her buy pizza daily at lunch! The warmest part of my day is when I put a hot chocolate and poridge in front of ziv. She loves her breakfast - Adi on the other hand is " bossing back " because of the texture and refuses to sit at the table with her!! ;o\ Adi wont eat sandwiches, but will eat a sub at a restaurant; tom wont eat fruit, but does drink litres of orange juice... like I've said before - I thought all this was typical for kids!!! wendy in canada! (where the temp is a warmer -22c with no wind) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2000 Report Share Posted January 19, 2000 When I first married my OCD husband he had all these " food things " , like you have to eat toast with jelly unless of course the toast is served with oatmeal, that would be gross, everyone knows that. And fried fish always goes with cole slaw and hush puppies, and ham w/o corn bread? - puhleese! Being an italian girl from the midwest I just assumed this was a " southern thing " or a " black thing " , since my husband is both. So you can imagine how liberating it was for me when he was diagnosed with OCD and I realized that these were OCD " food issues " ! And I realized that Ava, who was also diagnosed around the same time, had 'em too (but different ones, just to confuse things!). Now I serve things the way I want to. I take into consideration people's " preferences " but if I don't have corn bread, too bad. OCD is more than welcome to shop for me and cook me a meal anytime, but until that happens (it won't, OCD doesn't like to handle food till it's on the plate) the rule is: No comments on the food except for compliments to the chef. :-) Requests are welcome (but NOT at mealtime) as long as they are accompanied by profuse appreciation when accommodated. When Mama's happy, everyone's happy and I tell them OCD is not the boss of ME. And BTW, they are in charge of cleanup. This all works unless someone is having some kind of meltdown, of course! Dana in NC W. Birk wrote: > From: " W. Birk " <wb4@...> > > >Roman wrote: > > > > > > I can't believe I've lowered my standards to Lucky Charms > > > for breakfast and letting her buy pizza daily at lunch! > > The warmest part of my day is when I put a hot chocolate and poridge in > front of ziv. She loves her breakfast - Adi on the other hand is " bossing > back " because of the texture and refuses to sit at the table with her!! ;o\ > > Adi wont eat sandwiches, but will eat a sub at a restaurant; tom wont eat > fruit, but does drink litres of orange juice... like I've said before - I > thought all this was typical for kids!!! > > wendy in canada! > (where the temp is a warmer -22c with no wind) > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > --------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2000 Report Share Posted January 19, 2000 Thanks I am going for the magnesium. She is flattly refusing any liquid product to help her go. She probably fears she'll have the same (explosion of bowel) thing happen again. I have a call into her dr. We'll see..... in PA Re: More on constipation >From: Roman <ChrisRoman@...> > >Hi All, > >Well, I've been wrestling with Kelsey's constipation issue on and off since she >was just one! So I feel compelled to pass on more of my expertise. About using >foods to relieve it—A good high fiber diet is definitely best, but it has it's >limitations. First, picky eaters just won't do it. Kelsey has a list of about five >foods she'll eat too. I can't believe I've lowered my standards to Lucky Charms >for breakfast and letting her buy pizza daily at lunch! I've always been very >nutrition conscious but have found over time that it's not worth the tummy aches >at school because she just had two bites of toast or tossed her sandwich and is >hungry! Secondly, if a child (or anyone) is already constipated, your excellent >diet won't do you any good. If the stool is hard and impacted then you have to get >it out of there using mineral oil (blech!), Malt Soupex, magnesium, or something >else. Once the stool is soft and passing regularly, then a good diet will keep >things moving along. > >Re: using senna, I tried these in a capsule form for Kelsey, but the nutritionist >counseled me away from it, saying it was a very strong herb. Even the pediatrician >recommended I use these only briefly in an emergency situation because her system >could come to rely on it. So there you have it...go for the magnesium! > >Take care, > >in San Diego > > >--------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2000 Report Share Posted January 19, 2000 This may be too simplistic for the type of constipation problems being discussed, but I noticed when Kel was very young that sugarless products (gum, lollipops) caused diarrhea. I believe it is the Sorbitol (sugar substitute) that has this effect. More recently when Kel was in the grips of her bowel compulsions I casually saw to it that she had this type of gum or lollipop daily, this worked to relieve the constipation she had caused herself by witholding bms. Her doctor recommended Senekot, which also (gently) worked, but it is a liquid, dark-brown and chocolate-flavored, and reminded Kellen of diarrhea which provoked other fears during this time about excrement getting into her mouth. Perhaps a pill form is available. For what it's worth. Kathy R. in Indiana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2009 Report Share Posted September 30, 2009 That is a start. As long as they are not runny, I would stick to that level of magnesium and see if he gets used to it. Are you giving digestive enzymes and probiotics? What about a yeast protocol like GSE and biotin? TJ ________________________________ From: khieken <khieken@...> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 6:51:34 AM Subject: [ ] More on constipation I have finally gotten my 6yo son's bowels somewhat improved with magnesium (~500mg) and aloe vera (2oz). BMs are very soft now (sometimes not even formed); but he still does not go daily, and usually it's every 3 days or so. This doesn't seem like enough to me, especially since I would like to start him on chelation and want to ensure he can clear the toxins out of his body. Should I keep increasing what we're using? Any thoughts or suggestions? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2009 Report Share Posted September 30, 2009 He is taking digestive enzymes, but not with lunch, as I haven't gotten a doctor to sign a release for it yet for school. We just restarted probiotics this week - I hadn't thought about using more than probiotics for yeast, but it's a good point. I will restart Yeast Control and see how that goes. (Doesn't biotin cause constipation? This is the reason I haven't tried it yet.) Thanks for your help. > > That is a start. As long as they are not runny, I would stick to that level of magnesium and see if he gets used to it. > Are you giving digestive enzymes and probiotics? > What about a yeast protocol like GSE and biotin? > TJ > > > > > ________________________________ > From: khieken <khieken@...> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 6:51:34 AM > Subject: [ ] More on constipation > > > I have finally gotten my 6yo son's bowels somewhat improved with magnesium (~500mg) and aloe vera (2oz). BMs are very soft now (sometimes not even formed); but he still does not go daily, and usually it's every 3 days or so. This doesn't seem like enough to me, especially since I would like to start him on chelation and want to ensure he can clear the toxins out of his body. Should I keep increasing what we're using? Any thoughts or suggestions? > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 > > He is taking digestive enzymes, but not with lunch, as I haven't gotten a doctor to sign a release for it yet for school. We just restarted probiotics this week - I hadn't thought about using more than probiotics for yeast, but it's a good point. I will restart Yeast Control and see how that goes. (Doesn't biotin cause constipation? This is the reason I haven't tried it yet.) Biotin requires magnesium for proper absorption. So it can be constipating if you are severely deficient in either the biotin or the magnesium. But if it causes constipation, the remedy is to increase your magnesium. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 Biotin helps make a more suitable environment for the " good " bacteria, thus pushing out the bad. Never heard about it causing constipation. I would start with a low dose and work your way up. TJ ________________________________ From: khieken <khieken@...> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 4:41:59 PM Subject: [ ] Re: More on constipation He is taking digestive enzymes, but not with lunch, as I haven't gotten a doctor to sign a release for it yet for school. We just restarted probiotics this week - I hadn't thought about using more than probiotics for yeast, but it's a good point. I will restart Yeast Control and see how that goes. (Doesn't biotin cause constipation? This is the reason I haven't tried it yet.) Thanks for your help. > > That is a start. As long as they are not runny, I would stick to that level of magnesium and see if he gets used to it. > Are you giving digestive enzymes and probiotics? > What about a yeast protocol like GSE and biotin? > TJ > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From: khieken <khieken@... > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 6:51:34 AM > Subject: [ ] More on constipation > > > I have finally gotten my 6yo son's bowels somewhat improved with magnesium (~500mg) and aloe vera (2oz). BMs are very soft now (sometimes not even formed); but he still does not go daily, and usually it's every 3 days or so. This doesn't seem like enough to me, especially since I would like to start him on chelation and want to ensure he can clear the toxins out of his body. Should I keep increasing what we're using? Any thoughts or suggestions? > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 Lots more fruits and vegetables, especially fresh, uncooked.? You'll have plenty of poop ! Francine > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From: khieken <khieken@... > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 6:51:34 AM > Subject: [ ] More on constipation > > ? > I have finally gotten my 6yo son's bowels somewhat improved with magnesium (~500mg) and aloe vera (2oz). BMs are very soft now (sometimes not even formed); but he still does not go daily, and usually it's every 3 days or so. This doesn't seem like enough to me, especially since I would like to start him on chelation and want to ensure he can clear the toxins out of his body. Should I keep increasing what we're using? Any thoughts or suggestions? > > Thanks! > Speak with Him Thou for He hearest. Spirit with Spirit can speak. Closer is Love than breathing, Nearer than hands and feet. (with appreciation for Tennyson) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 ...... or just eat some jalepeno peppers! LOL On Oct 1, 2009, at 11:14 PM, sunrose101@... wrote: > > Lots more fruits and vegetables, especially fresh, uncooked.? > You'll have plenty of poop ! > > Francine > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > From: khieken <khieken@... > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 6:51:34 AM > > Subject: [ ] More on constipation > > > > ? > > I have finally gotten my 6yo son's bowels somewhat improved with > magnesium (~500mg) and aloe vera (2oz). BMs are very soft now > (sometimes not even formed); but he still does not go daily, and > usually it's every 3 days or so. This doesn't seem like enough to > me, especially since I would like to start him on chelation and > want to ensure he can clear the toxins out of his body. Should I > keep increasing what we're using? Any thoughts or suggestions? > > > > Thanks! > > > > Speak with Him Thou for He hearest. > Spirit with Spirit can speak. > Closer is Love than breathing, > Nearer than hands and feet. > > (with appreciation for Tennyson) > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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