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I'd say it's a great time since he hasn't been sick - that may give you

a baseline - and then you can check if they elevate when OCD symptoms

flare

Eileen

Quoting rhondastanish <PRSTANISH@...>:

> I was wondering if it is to late to have my sons titers checked to

> determine if his OCD is PANDAS. He has had ear infections resulting

> in tubes since the age of two(also took alsot of antibiotics. He had

> scarlet fever at the age of five. He has OCD syptoms since the age of

> five also. He is know 10 and has been dx with ocd six months ago.

> He has not been sick recently.

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Hi Judy,

How long ago did your son have strep? My daughter had symptoms for at

least two months before her titers started increasing. Our doctor has

told us that it isn't necessarily the number, but whether they are

increasing. You could have his titers checked again. Even when her

symptoms were at her worst, her titers were never extremely high.

Take care, nne

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> Hi All,

> I just had my son's baseline titers checked and they were very low.

Does this mean that there is no possiblity of him having PANDAS? Or do

we have to wait for him to get strep again and see how high they go?

> Thanks

> Judy

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Hi Judy,

How long ago did your son have strep? My daughter had symptoms for at

least two months before her titers started increasing. Our doctor has

told us that it isn't necessarily the number, but whether they are

increasing. You could have his titers checked again. Even when her

symptoms were at her worst, her titers were never extremely high.

Take care, nne

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> Hi All,

> I just had my son's baseline titers checked and they were very low.

Does this mean that there is no possiblity of him having PANDAS? Or do

we have to wait for him to get strep again and see how high they go?

> Thanks

> Judy

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Yes he did actually! At one point(can't remember the exact age) he had strep. I

have a question, can I give him OLE with any other supps or do I need to avoid

them with certain ones? I don't want it to lose its effectiveness.

TXS

Heleni

From: Jan <mercurybabies2@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: Pandas question

Received: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 11:41 PM

 

Did he ever had a positive throat culture for strep at anytime past age 3?? As I

understand it, that would be the factor as to whether or not he might have

PANDAS. Upon which olive leaf extract can kill strep. I beleive Dana used OLE to

clear her kids of strep infections.

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> " Each time he complains that his throat hurts I get him tested for strep but

the tests always come back negative. Is it possible that he can still have

PANDAS? Our DAN also suspects he has it. With no concrete evidence that he does

have Pandas we were told to give him the following : interfase plus biofilm

enzymes,

> > > lauricidin, yeast-aid, and uva ursi.  "

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> *** Strep can survivein biofilm matrix in many places in the body besides the

throat- sinuses, gut, etc. - making it resistant to antibiotics. Interfase (as

well as lumbrokinase and nattokinase) are intended to break down the biofilms

but then you need pathogen killers specific to the strain of strep your son has.

Muscle testing may be helpful to determine the right one. But Lauricidin is

anti-viral and Yeast-aid is for candida. They are not likely to be helpful.

Among natural antimicrobials, Olive Leaf Extract is know to be active against

strep. Others are berberine/oregon grape, barberry, and some Nutramedix

tinctures like Cumanda.

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With OLE you need to avoid taking at the same time as probiotics because it can

kill the good bacteria. Others may be able to be more specific, but I think you

need to separate the two by about two hours.

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> > " Each time he complains that his throat hurts I get him tested for strep but

the tests always come back negative. Is it possible that he can still have

PANDAS? Our DAN also suspects he has it. With no concrete evidence that he does

have Pandas we were told to give him the following : interfase plus biofilm

enzymes,

> > > > lauricidin, yeast-aid, and uva ursi.  "

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> > *** Strep can survivein biofilm matrix in many places in the body besides

the throat- sinuses, gut, etc. - making it resistant to antibiotics. Interfase

(as well as lumbrokinase and nattokinase) are intended to break down the

biofilms but then you need pathogen killers specific to the strain of strep your

son has. Muscle testing may be helpful to determine the right one. But

Lauricidin is anti-viral and Yeast-aid is for candida. They are not likely to be

helpful. Among natural antimicrobials, Olive Leaf Extract is know to be active

against strep. Others are berberine/oregon grape, barberry, and some Nutramedix

tinctures like Cumanda.

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> Is there any value in getting my daughter tested for PANDAS? If she tests

positive, what does the protocol look like?

PANDAS is a strep syndrome. I eliminated strep here with OLE.

Dana

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