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I would like this info also, as I need to get a TB test for my work and I am

still BFing my Son.

<< Can someone give me some info on TB tests? My neighbor was told her

daughter would need one at the 12mo. visit, tomorrow, and is a little

hesitant. I don't know why a perfectly healthy, still breastfed, 12mo. old

would need this test. Do you?

Please feel free to reply to me personally unless you feel others may

benefit from this info. >>

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Can someone give me some info on TB tests? My neighbor was told her

daughter would need one at the 12mo. visit, tomorrow, and is a little

hesitant. I don't know why a perfectly healthy, still breastfed, 12mo. old

would need this test. Do you?

Please feel free to reply to me personally unless you feel others may

benefit from this info.

Thanks,

Ginny

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Completely ludicrous - I've never heard of testing babies for this. But

then, the vaccines keep getting bumped up earlier and earlier, so why

not? We talked about this on the parentsplace vaccine board once and

there was hesitancy because of what the ingredients in the serum are -

not good, though I can't recall exactly what. Maybe someone else knows??

If not, check out the archives at parentsplace.

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nicole,

this is all i could find quickly--don't have too much. hope any of it

helps...

brigit

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tuberculin test

procedure for the diagnosis of tuberculosis infection by the introduction

into the skin, usually by injection on the front surface of the forearm, of a

minute amount of purified protein derivative (PPD) tuberculin. Tuberculin is

a protein substance from the tuberculosis-causing bacillus, Mycobacterium

tuberculosis, first discovered and extracted by Koch in 1890. When the

test is positive, a region of swelling 10 mm (0.4 inch) or greater in

diameter, usually accompanied by redness, occurs within 48 hours at the site

of injection. A positive reaction indicates that the individual was

previously exposed to the tubercle bacillus, but it does not necessarily

indicate that active clinical tuberculosis is present, or ever existed. The

test is a help to the tuberculosis from other pulmonary conditions.physician

in determining the source and time of an infection and in distinguishing

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What kind of test will show if a person is infected with tuberculosis?

A skin test is used to see if a person is infected with the tuberculosis

germ. The skin test is called a PPD test or a tuberculin test. A nurse or

other health care provider can easily give the skin test.

This test is done by pricking the skin on your arm with a small amount of

tuberculin protein. If hardness develops two to three days later on your arm

where the test was

done, the test is called positive. A positive test means that the person

probably has the tuberculosis germs.

A person infected with tuberculosis may feel well and not know they have the

disease. This is why it is important to have a PPD test if you are at risk of

tuberculosis.

Who should get a PPD skin test for tuberculosis?

A PPD test should be performed in people who may have been around someone

with active tuberculosis and in people who have symptoms of the disease.

Symptoms include a cough that won't go away, loss of weight, sweating at

night, fever and trouble breathing. A skin test should also be done in

persons with human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) infection. A PPD test should

also be done if you have a condition that weakens your immune system or makes

you more likely to get sick. Ask your doctor if you should have this test.

What will happen if my PPD skin test is postive?

The most important first step is for your doctor to find out if you have

active tuberculosis. You usually will need to have a physical examination, a

chest x-ray and possibly some other tests (such as collecting samples of

material that is coughed up).

If you have active tuberculosis, you have to follow a special treatment plan.

You will most likely need to take at least three or four medicines for many

months.

If you have a positive PPD test but don't have active tuberculosis, you may

still have tuberculosis but just not the active form of the infection. This

condition is sometimes called inactive tuberculosis. People with inactive

tuberculosis may not have any symptoms. Inactive tuberculosis means that you

are infected with the tuberculosis germ but your infection is mild.

What happens if I have a positive PPD skin test but not active tuberculosis?

If you have a positive skin test but do not have active tuberculosis, you may

need to start taking a medicine called isoniazid. This medicine helps prevent

the tuberculosis germ from growing and developing into active tuberculosis.

The risk of developing active tuberculosis is increased in people who have

weakened immune systems or chronic illness, such as diabetes, kidney failure

or cancer.

The following people should take isoniazid if their PPD skin test is

positive, but they do not have active tuberculosis:

People with HIV infection

People who had a negative PPD skin test in the past two years but now have a

positive PPD skin test

People who are in close contact (for example, living in the same house) with

a person being treated for active tuberculosis

Isoniazid is usually taken for six months. The dose for adults is 300 mg per

day taken by mouth. HIV-infected persons should take this medicine for one

year.

If you take isoniazid, your doctor will want you to have a checkup regularly

to make sure you're doing well while you're taking the medicine. It is

important for you to take the medicine for six months or more to kill the

tuberculosis germs that are causing the infection.

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This information provides a general overview on preventing tuberculosis and

related infections and may not apply to everyone. Talk to your family doctor

to find out if this information applies to you and to get more information on

this subject.

This handout is provided to you by your family doctor and the American

Academy of Family Physicians. Other health-related information is available

from the American Academy of Family Physicians on the World Wide Web. Visit

the AAFP Web site at http://www.aafp.org/healthinfo. Information may also be

obtained online from America's HouseCall Network at

http://www.housecall.com/aafp.11/96

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www.dhs.vic.gov.au/phb/9712053/pd_facts/english.htm

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On Sat, 30 Sep 2000 22:26:51 -0400 " Nittany Lion "

<dasweeney@...> writes:

> I don't know what it is like in other states, I live in Pennsylvania.

> Here all teachers are *required* to get a TB Test as a part of

> their physical prior to being hired. Also, parents who want to be

> aides or volunteers in their childs school need to be tested for TB.

>

Hi Dawn! Here in Kentucky, where our daughter attends a cooperative

preschool (this means that my husband and I help out with various

activities and usually have one workday a week ) we are " required " to get

the TB test as well. THANK YOU so much for sending out the inserts to

these tests! I'm due to have baby #3 in a few weeks and am horrified

that they would recommend I take such a test when NO STUDIES have been

done to test its effects on the fetus OR its effects on future fertility!

Luckily the administration at co-op school has given us no flack on our

" religious " exemption; dh and I both declined the test, along with all

the required vaxes for our 5 year old, by simply quoting our state

statutes in a letter to the school. Namaste, Gretchen

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At 08:53 AM 11/26/2000 -0800, you wrote:

>Hi - I just want to repeat my request for some good (ie, something a

>doctor would consider reading) articles on the concerns with the TB

>test. My partner's doc is open to reading about it, but he wants

>something " vaild., " if you know what I mean. Thanks

>

>

>

>

Sorry, I have nothing definitive because NO one has looked at this.

The only thing I know is I don't want TB injected into me anymore than I

want the vaccines injected into me.

And the other thing I know are stories from parents that their child

changed after the TB test in some way -

I know an autistic child who had been cured with homeopathy and then had a

TB test and had a relapse. Fortunately homeopathy helped him to come out

of it again.

Not to mention false positives and the HUGE toxcity of the drugs they force

you to take if THEY THINK you are positive.

Leave my body alone!!!!!!!!!!

Sheri

PS I sent Amy Lansky's story of her son's autism, homeopathy cure and TB

relapse to the list in September. If anyone wasn't on then and would like

it, let me know.

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At 02:31 PM 11/26/2000 -0500, you wrote:

>What does everyone think about having the chest x-ray done? I realize

>that this puts radiation in your body....but i was wondering where

>everyone stood on this area.

>

> Love,

> Gori

>

>

Radiation Bad

TB TEST Bad

No choice here.

Sheri

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women) do nothing " ...Edmund Burke

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In a message dated 11/5/01 12:57:43 PM GTB Standard Time, tdwunder@...

writes:

<<

Does anyone know if you can have an adverse reaction to the tb

(injection) test? My husband had one about a week or so ago and has

had a headache ever since. Thanks. >>

Yes,you can.The insert is online at Aventis.If you need a link email me.

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At 10:56 AM 11/05/2001 -0000, you wrote:

>Does anyone know if you can have an adverse reaction to the tb

>(injection) test? My husband had one about a week or so ago and has

>had a headache ever since. Thanks.

>

>Tonya

>

Yes, you can. I know an autistic child who was cured with homeopathic

treatment who relapsed after TB test.

It is TB substance in it and anyone can have an adverse reaction to that.

Stay away from TB tests too

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In a message dated 3/12/02 6:34:57 AM GTB Standard Time,

mommy2mykidz@... writes:

<<

Can someone explain to me what this is, how it's done, and why I'd want to

do it?

>>

TB test is looking for Tuberculosus in you/kids...exposure to it.They put a

little bit of purified tb under the skin,and wait to see if you have a

reaction.If I remember correctly it is a 2 x's injection test that Aventis

makes(insert is online at their site).As with vaccines the insert recommends

having things onhand for reactions.

In some areas they do this test at 1y of age.Most immigrants are made to have

this test even when they have had a BCG vaccines(which results in positive tb

tests as supposed too).Positive tb test means chest x-rays,and then they will

push to give long-term meds *just in case*,which often damage the liver.

sara

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In a message dated 3/12/02 6:34:57 AM GTB Standard Time,

mommy2mykidz@... writes:

<<

Can someone explain to me what this is, how it's done, and why I'd want to

do it?

>>

Oh and even though it was never tested to be used during pregnancy it is.They

just went ahead and inject those women,and since everything *seems* fine they

continue to go ahead and use it during pregnancy. I went through that with

dd. I will never choose a job and doing something I feel *uneasy about* ever

again.

sara

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Dear Carole,

I've had a couple of TB tests since being diagnosed with AIH. Since there is increased TB in the population, I think it's something else we may be more suseptible to. It's a skin test - no big problem. Also it was required to get on the tx list.

Amy

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<< had a TB skin test annually for aprox. 8 years at a hospital where I

used to work (did not know I could refuse things back then). Anybody

else had to do this?No long term effects in my case (well, that I know

of).>>

I had to get one every year while I was teaching.

Incidentally, while I was teaching, they came out with the Hep B vax.

Special education itself was considered a " high-risk " occupation by the

health department, so our district was required to pay for the vax if

necessary...insurance would NOT cover it at the time, and with 3 shots

it was quite an expense. Well, even though I worked with middle school

behavior disordered boys who got into fistfights almost DAILY, saw blood

about once a month, and had kids from families where drug

abuse/promiscuous sex was almost guaranteed, I was found to NOT be in a

class A high risk group, therefore the district would NOT pay for my

shots, and I didn't get them because I couldn't afford them (thank God).

Fast forward 10 years later, and I was told my NEWBORN INFANT, like all

newborns, was at so much risk for Hep B that I had to jab him before he

came home or I was a rotten mother...gives it a little perspective,

doesn't it?

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This is something my friend and I work with are right now discussing! We get

ours yearly during our birthmonth. Her's is coming up this month and she asked

employee health if she could refuse it due to she is breastfeeding and they said

yes with a Dr's note excusing her. Do any of you have any information on TB

tests and ingredients, reactions, and how to go about being exempt? Thanks.

Bambi

RE: TB test

<< had a TB skin test annually for aprox. 8 years at a hospital where I

used to work (did not know I could refuse things back then). Anybody

else had to do this?No long term effects in my case (well, that I know

of).>>

I had to get one every year while I was teaching.

Incidentally, while I was teaching, they came out with the Hep B vax.

Special education itself was considered a " high-risk " occupation by the

health department, so our district was required to pay for the vax if

necessary...insurance would NOT cover it at the time, and with 3 shots

it was quite an expense. Well, even though I worked with middle school

behavior disordered boys who got into fistfights almost DAILY, saw blood

about once a month, and had kids from families where drug

abuse/promiscuous sex was almost guaranteed, I was found to NOT be in a

class A high risk group, therefore the district would NOT pay for my

shots, and I didn't get them because I couldn't afford them (thank God).

Fast forward 10 years later, and I was told my NEWBORN INFANT, like all

newborns, was at so much risk for Hep B that I had to jab him before he

came home or I was a rotten mother...gives it a little perspective,

doesn't it?

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At 05:35 PM 02/23/2004 -0500, you wrote:

>

>

>I am looking for information on the TB test. I cannot find hardly any

>information doing seach engines. I also have a friend that is searching and

>she also has come up empty handed. I want to know ingredients and growth

>medium and also side effects to pregnancy and breast feeding, especially

>breastfeeding. Any help I would greatly appreciate. We have to take them

>annually at work during our birth month and mine is next month. I really

>don't want to take it. I am breastfeeding and this is our first baby that

>will be completly nonvaxed! Thanks so so much!

>

>Have a great day :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

>Bambi

There is info in the archives of the messages

group

I don't think you can get out of it for hospital work - you can try

claiming breastfeeding

Always worth a try

But theymay try to get you to do chest xray then

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At 10:02 AM 11/16/2004 -0000, you wrote:

>

>

>Hi Sheri, Which article should I read? I am interested in this topic

>also, I am living in France and have just kept my daughter home from

>school today to avoid a " visite médicale " at her school, I was

>worried they might do this test, discover she has no antibodies and

>vaccinate her on the spot!! Any advice/information would be greatly

>appreciated...

>

>Deb

Well, if they give BCG vaccine in France, they won't be doing TB tests as

they will show positive and so are useless after BCG vax.

Sorry you have that to deal with in France.

Sheri

PS - where are you in France?

>

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I am in Yerres (Essonne), which is about 30kms south east of Paris.

Do you think they would give the vaccine without checking with me

first? It is compulsory and I was worried that by law they may be

able to do this....

I thought of telling them that she has had a dose of it when little

and had a bad reaction and therefore can't have anymore, however I

have no medical evidence to back this up...

> >

> >

> >Hi Sheri, Which article should I read? I am interested in this

topic

> >also, I am living in France and have just kept my daughter home

from

> >school today to avoid a " visite médicale " at her school, I was

> >worried they might do this test, discover she has no antibodies

and

> >vaccinate her on the spot!! Any advice/information would be

greatly

> >appreciated...

> >

> >Deb

>

> Well, if they give BCG vaccine in France, they won't be doing TB

tests as

> they will show positive and so are useless after BCG vax.

> Sorry you have that to deal with in France.

> Sheri

>

> PS - where are you in France?

>

> >

> --------------------------------------------------------

> Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Classical Homeopath

> Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

> $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account

> vaccineinfo@t... voicemail US 530-740-0561

> (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail

> Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

> Vaccine Dangers On-Line course -

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm

> Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm

> ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL

> OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS

ALONE.

>

> ******

> " Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside

down.

> Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities

destroy

> knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy

information

> and religions destroy spirituality " .... Ellner

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At 12:20 PM 11/16/2004 -0000, you wrote:

>

>

>I am in Yerres (Essonne), which is about 30kms south east of Paris.

>

>Do you think they would give the vaccine without checking with me

>first? It is compulsory and I was worried that by law they may be

>able to do this....

>

>I thought of telling them that she has had a dose of it when little

>and had a bad reaction and therefore can't have anymore, however I

>have no medical evidence to back this up...

I don't know what to tell you.

Are you from US just living in France. Or are you French?

I'd do whatever it took to prevent vaccination.

For help could contact

Sylvie Simon

ssimon@...

The only journalist in France fighting the vaccine issue - wonderful woman!

Tell her I sent you

Sheri

>

>

>

>> >

>> >

>> >Hi Sheri, Which article should I read? I am interested in this

>topic

>> >also, I am living in France and have just kept my daughter home

>from

>> >school today to avoid a " visite médicale " at her school, I was

>> >worried they might do this test, discover she has no antibodies

>and

>> >vaccinate her on the spot!! Any advice/information would be

>greatly

>> >appreciated...

>> >

>> >Deb

>>

>> Well, if they give BCG vaccine in France, they won't be doing TB

>tests as

>> they will show positive and so are useless after BCG vax.

>> Sorry you have that to deal with in France.

>> Sheri

>>

>> PS - where are you in France?

>>

>> >

>> --------------------------------------------------------

>> Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Classical Homeopath

>> Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

>> $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account

>> vaccineinfo@t... voicemail US 530-740-0561

>> (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail

>> Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

>> Vaccine Dangers On-Line course -

>http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm

>> Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm

>> ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL

>> OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS

>ALONE.

>>

>> ******

>> " Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside

>down.

>> Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities

>destroy

>> knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy

>information

>> and religions destroy spirituality " .... Ellner

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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I'm Australian , as are my children, I have just married a french

man (he is not the father of my children), and we are living here

for as long as he has work here, or until he finds something in

Australia!! In Australia I have a conscientious objection, which of

course is useless here. I have contacted Sylvie Simon before and

she said her grandchildren never had any problems just by avoiding

the issue and not being at school when vaccinations were scheduled.

I'm wondering if things have possibly changed and they are

tightening the net, it would seem so from all the info you have been

posting about the US. I'm glad I'm not there, but France is no

better...oh, how I long for Australia!!! I am seeing a

homeopath/doctor this evening, hopefully she can offer me some

assistance, fingers are crossed. All of this is made 10 times worse

by my poor french language skills... :-/

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >Hi Sheri, Which article should I read? I am interested in this

> >topic

> >> >also, I am living in France and have just kept my daughter

home

> >from

> >> >school today to avoid a " visite médicale " at her school, I was

> >> >worried they might do this test, discover she has no

antibodies

> >and

> >> >vaccinate her on the spot!! Any advice/information would be

> >greatly

> >> >appreciated...

> >> >

> >> >Deb

> >>

> >> Well, if they give BCG vaccine in France, they won't be doing

TB

> >tests as

> >> they will show positive and so are useless after BCG vax.

> >> Sorry you have that to deal with in France.

> >> Sheri

> >>

> >> PS - where are you in France?

> >>

> >> >

> >> --------------------------------------------------------

> >> Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Classical Homeopath

> >> Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA &

Wales UK

> >> $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account

> >> vaccineinfo@t... voicemail US 530-740-0561

> >> (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail

> >> Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

> >> Vaccine Dangers On-Line course -

> >http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm

> >> Homeopathy On-Line course -

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm

> >> ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL

> >> OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS

> >ALONE.

> >>

> >> ******

> >> " Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside

> >down.

> >> Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities

> >destroy

> >> knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy

> >information

> >> and religions destroy spirituality " .... Ellner

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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At 01:55 PM 11/16/2004 -0000, you wrote:

>

>

>I'm Australian , as are my children, I have just married a french

>man (he is not the father of my children), and we are living here

>for as long as he has work here, or until he finds something in

>Australia!! In Australia I have a conscientious objection, which of

>course is useless here. I have contacted Sylvie Simon before and

>she said her grandchildren never had any problems just by avoiding

>the issue and not being at school when vaccinations were scheduled.

>I'm wondering if things have possibly changed and they are

>tightening the net, it would seem so from all the info you have been

>posting about the US. I'm glad I'm not there, but France is no

>better...oh, how I long for Australia!!! I am seeing a

>homeopath/doctor this evening, hopefully she can offer me some

>assistance, fingers are crossed. All of this is made 10 times worse

>by my poor french language skills... :-/

>

Listen to Sylvie

Just best to avoid the issue, stay away, keep a low profile, it seems

Use your poor French to your advantage ;-)

I don't think anything has changed in France

Sheri

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>> >> >Hi Sheri, Which article should I read? I am interested in this

>> >topic

>> >> >also, I am living in France and have just kept my daughter

>home

>> >from

>> >> >school today to avoid a " visite médicale " at her school, I was

>> >> >worried they might do this test, discover she has no

>antibodies

>> >and

>> >> >vaccinate her on the spot!! Any advice/information would be

>> >greatly

>> >> >appreciated...

>> >> >

>> >> >Deb

>> >>

>> >> Well, if they give BCG vaccine in France, they won't be doing

>TB

>> >tests as

>> >> they will show positive and so are useless after BCG vax.

>> >> Sorry you have that to deal with in France.

>> >> Sheri

>> >>

>> >> PS - where are you in France?

>> >>

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is this test dangerous? They said it is mandatory at my work -or you can

get a chest xray to rule it out....I refused them both- but our Dir. of nursing

is good friend of mine and just but I didn't have it :o)

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yes it can be dangerous - injeccting TB right into you.

Some people fill out the form saying yes they got it

Some people use the vaccine exemption to exempt but not sure in Ohio if

that works.

More info on the dangers

At 10:30 AM 3/25/2005 EST, you wrote:

>

>is this test dangerous? They said it is mandatory at my work -or you can

>get a chest xray to rule it out....I refused them both- but our Dir. of

nursing

>is good friend of mine and just but I didn't have it :o)

>

>

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At 03:34 PM 6/23/2006 -0400, you wrote:

>Can a TB test be refused? My sil just called me and wants to accept a job

at the nursing home but they want to give her a TB test. SHe doesnt want

it. What are the risks involved and can you be excempt from that? I have

never researched TB test.

>

>Thanks

>amy

I just sent info on that.

Have her ask for what I send or a sputum test instead

Sheri

>

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Dr. Len Horowitz is a very outspoken critic of vaccines, and has

authored several books in the area of vaccines, diseases, Big Pharma,

etc. You should be able to find many articles about his recent

experiences with his daughter's school's refusal to allow her to

attend school without her having this skin test.

He does not believe the skin test is at all safe, nor necessary, and

if you do a search on his name – you should be able to find more

info. and his excellent articles.

Just 2 sites I came up with quickly, but you may want to do a more

thorough search.

http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=731968

http://www.vaclib.org/basic/tb.htm

>

> Ok.. here is a silly question.. my son needs to have a TB test...is

this

> safe? he has to volunteer at a hospital for school.. peace, Lia

>

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