Re: Why not Probiotic Yogurt & Enzyme ?

[Guest guest]

I used to have the same problems. I spent lots, lots of money on probiotics, and

when we did a stool test we hardly found these good bacteria back.

Since a year we all eat home made yoghurt. I use the Custom Probiotics to make

the yoghurt, and before bedtime we all take 1 capsule (also from Custom

Probiotcs)now and then. And finally last test we did, we found a good amount of

these bacteria back in the gut.

We live in the Netherlands, that means that the probiotics survive the trip to

our house - that's about half a week outside the fridge - not a bad result I

think...

Nicoline

>

> Hi folks,

>

> We spend loads of cash on probiotics products but almost all of these good

bacteria don't make it to the G.I of the end user because they are destroyed

during storage, shipping and shelving.

> So, what is wrong with using any of the regular, cheap, fresh and easily

available yogurt probiotic products along with the necessary enzyme.

>

> Does this make sense or am I in Cocoon land ?

>

[Guest guest]

I make kefir as it can be made at room temperature. You can buy kefir

" grains " on the Internet.

Making yogurt (with different strains of bacteria) needs warmer temp.

Lactobacilus acidophilus needs higher temp, and that's the bacteria that's

supposed to help the most with yeast. But you could try it to see what

happens. I'll still be beneficial regardless.

You'll want to eat/drink it 3 times a day (increase gradually), and it's

hard to get kids to do that (I know mine won't). That's probably why a lot

of people prefer to make them take pills. Water kefir tastes great, so that

might be a better option too.

On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 6:54 AM, nicoline_cammenga <

nicoline.cammenga@...> wrote:

> I used to have the same problems. I spent lots, lots of money on

> probiotics, and when we did a stool test we hardly found these good bacteria

> back.

> Since a year we all eat home made yoghurt. I use the Custom Probiotics to

> make the yoghurt, and before bedtime we all take 1 capsule (also from Custom

> Probiotcs)now and then. And finally last test we did, we found a good amount

> of these bacteria back in the gut.

> We live in the Netherlands, that means that the probiotics survive the trip

> to our house - that's about half a week outside the fridge - not a bad

> result I think...

> Nicoline

>

>

> >

> > Hi folks,

> >

> > We spend loads of cash on probiotics products but almost all of these

> good bacteria don't make it to the G.I of the end user because they are

> destroyed during storage, shipping and shelving.

> > So, what is wrong with using any of the regular, cheap, fresh and easily

> available yogurt probiotic products along with the necessary enzyme.

> >

> > Does this make sense or am I in Cocoon land ?

> >

>

[Guest guest]

We started off using organic plain whole milk yogurt as our probiotic and it is

great...but we're not casein-free which so many kids are. We also found we

needed more " bang " with many more CFU's than yogurt could provide so we use

both. Yogurt is our carrier for additional probiotic capsules (we've used

Jarrow, Klaire, and Custom Probiotics at different times). For several years my

son had plain yogurt spiked with added probiotics as his dessert after dinner.

Many casein-free families use other fermented products like coconut water either

alone or with additional probiotics to get the same effect.

>

> Hi folks,

>

> We spend loads of cash on probiotics products but almost all of these good

bacteria don't make it to the G.I of the end user because they are destroyed

during storage, shipping and shelving.

> So, what is wrong with using any of the regular, cheap, fresh and easily

available yogurt probiotic products along with the necessary enzyme.

>

> Does this make sense or am I in Cocoon land ?

>

[Guest guest]

We are GFCF so most yogurt would not be OK. I guess there are soy yogurts and

others.

TJ

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From: osamuyi05 <osamuyi05@...>

Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 1:15:42 AM

Subject: [ ] Why not Probiotic Yogurt & Enzyme ?

 

Hi folks,

We spend loads of cash on probiotics products but almost all of these good

bacteria don't make it to the G.I of the end user because they are destroyed

during storage, shipping and shelving.

So, what is wrong with using any of the regular, cheap, fresh and easily

available yogurt probiotic products along with the necessary enzyme.

Does this make sense or am I in Cocoon land ?

[Guest guest]

Homemade yoghurt might be ok. I make it from goatmilk, and leave it at least 24

hours to ferment. After a whole day the lactose is converted (is that the right

word??) into lactase. (Most people who can't digest milk, have problems with

lactose) My son has problems with milk, but not with our homemade yoghurt.

Nicoline

>

> We are GFCF so most yogurt would not be OK. I guess there are soy yogurts and

others.

> TJ

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: osamuyi05 <osamuyi05@...>

>

> Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 1:15:42 AM

> Subject: [ ] Why not Probiotic Yogurt & Enzyme ?

>

>  

> Hi folks,

>

> We spend loads of cash on probiotics products but almost all of these good

bacteria don't make it to the G.I of the end user because they are destroyed

during storage, shipping and shelving.

> So, what is wrong with using any of the regular, cheap, fresh and easily

available yogurt probiotic products along with the necessary enzyme.

>

> Does this make sense or am I in Cocoon land ?

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Doesn't goatmilk still have casein?

TJ

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From: nicoline_cammenga <nicoline.cammenga@...>

Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 1:34:13 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: Why not Probiotic Yogurt & Enzyme ?

 

Homemade yoghurt might be ok. I make it from goatmilk, and leave it at least 24

hours to ferment. After a whole day the lactose is converted (is that the right

word??) into lactase. (Most people who can't digest milk, have problems with

lactose) My son has problems with milk, but not with our homemade yoghurt.

Nicoline

>

> We are GFCF so most yogurt would not be OK. I guess there are soy yogurts and

others.

> TJ

>

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>

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> From: osamuyi05 <osamuyi05@. ..>

>

> Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 1:15:42 AM

> Subject: [ ] Why not Probiotic Yogurt & Enzyme ?

>

>  

> Hi folks,

>

> We spend loads of cash on probiotics products but almost all of these good

bacteria don't make it to the G.I of the end user because they are destroyed

during storage, shipping and shelving.

> So, what is wrong with using any of the regular, cheap, fresh and easily

available yogurt probiotic products along with the necessary enzyme.

>

> Does this make sense or am I in Cocoon land ?

>

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Perfect sense.? We've been making sunflower seed yoghurt and rejuvelac (from

fermented cabbage and water) and sauerkraut (no salt, sometimes kelp or dulse,

good for thyroid and high in minerals).

The yoghurt is made from very slightly sprouted sunflower seeds and can also be

made from almonds, macadamias (luscious), pistachios (gorgeous green) and hemp

seed will be our next try.? Really yummy and easy to digest and no bvg/casein

and no g-m soy, and the sunflower one is very cheap.? Even though organic

sunflower seeds went up 25% (if my math is right) to $2.49 a lb, soaked to

sprout and with the water added that makes a lot of yoghurt or cheese or

milk/kefir.

And it's so easy to make.

Francine

Speak with Him Thou for He hearest.

Spirit with Spirit can speak.

Closer is Love than breathing,

Nearer than hands and feet.

(with appreciation for Tennyson)

[Guest guest]

Awesome, the sunflower seed yogurt and rejuvelac makes perfect sense I am very

intrigued, I have no clue about making yogurt, I live in Ireland and I will like

to know the basic ingredients so that I can source them locally. Can you help me

out with the info.

[Guest guest]

Yup it sure does!!! Any milk from any animal has casein...it is just the

lactase that changes.

We are doing kefir and yogurt from a combo of Vance's dairy free and

Sno-E tofu milk powders. It works well....it also works on just the dairy free

milk.

We use the Vitacost 15-35 in conjunction with CP1 and culturelle...as the budget

allows. But they get a lot of kefir and yogurt. Doesn't do the yeast

in....but helps the gut.

hth

Ronni

> Doesn't goatmilk still have casein?

> TJ

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> ________________________________

> From: nicoline_cammenga <nicoline.cammenga@...>

>

> Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 1:34:13 PM

> Subject: [ ] Re: Why not Probiotic Yogurt & Enzyme ?

>

>  

> Homemade yoghurt might be ok. I make it from goatmilk, and leave it at least

24 hours to ferment. After a whole day the lactose is converted (is that the

right word??) into lactase. (Most people who can't digest milk, have problems

with lactose) My son has problems with milk, but not with our homemade yoghurt.

> Nicoline

>

>

> >

> > We are GFCF so most yogurt would not be OK. I guess there are soy yogurts

and others.

> > TJ

> >

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> > From: osamuyi05 <osamuyi05@ ..>

> >

> > Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 1:15:42 AM

> > Subject: [ ] Why not Probiotic Yogurt & Enzyme ?

> >

> >  

> > Hi folks,

> >

> > We spend loads of cash on probiotics products but almost all of these good

bacteria don't make it to the G.I of the end user because they are destroyed

during storage, shipping and shelving.

> > So, what is wrong with using any of the regular, cheap, fresh and easily

available yogurt probiotic products along with the necessary enzyme.

> >

> > Does this make sense or am I in Cocoon land ?

> >

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