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===>I just heard on the news that.... " The President is being kept aware of the

situation every few hours. " Comforted? Not me.

The good news is there is no vaccine.

Elderberry extract is good, the best is not to go out in case of a pandemic.

Small children are getting hit the hardest.

I was away for a week on holidays and was blissfully disconnected from the

internet and the news and come home to hear that the world is braced for a

possible pandemic!

I haven't even unpacked my bags yet and I'm already wondering if I'm going to

have to take my kids out of school to protect them from forced vaccines, which I

can only imagine given the media coverage is coming soon. Probably to the US

first by the sounds of it.

So can someone point me to some real sources of info about this? What is this

flu? What are the symptoms? Is this hype or is this a real threat?

And what natural supplements should we be taking to keep the immune system

strong in case of exposure?

Thanks,

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> And what natural supplements should we be taking to keep the immune system

strong in case of exposure?

>

> Thanks,

>

>

Not a supplement suggestion, but you could carry peroxide wipes (I found them at

Target), make everyone take their shoes off at the door, make them shower and

change clothes when they get home from school, etc. I use techniques like this

to keep me and my sons well in the face of me and one son having a form of

cystic fibrosis. We get sick really easily and I work at a large company and am

exposed to hundreds of people daily. If I *know* I was exposed to something on

a specific day, I take my clothes off the minute I get home and soak them in

diet tonic water and peroxide and hit the shower and irrigate my sinuses. Then

I load up on supplements. But supplements alone wouldn't do it for me.

Michele

http://www.healthgazelle.org

http://www.kidslikemine.org

http://www.solanorail.org

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>And what natural supplements should we be taking to keep the immune

>system strong in case of exposure?

>

Lysine is an excellent anti-viral. 2000 mg/day.

And your good old friend, Vitamin C. In case of infection, Ester-C

will let you take up to 20g without bowel disturbance, spread

throughout the day...

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Peroxide is a pretty strong oxydizer. Keep exposure to a minimum. You

wouldn't rub your kid down with chlorine bleach, would you?

I would suggest rubbing alcohol wipes instead. (Alcohol prep wipes,

at any pharmacy.)

Why diet tonic water?

>

>

>>

>> And what natural supplements should we be taking to keep the

>>immune system strong in case of exposure?

>>

>> Thanks,

>>

>>

>

>Not a supplement suggestion, but you could carry peroxide wipes (I

>found them at Target), make everyone take their shoes off at the

>door, make them shower and change clothes when they get home from

>school, etc. I use techniques like this to keep me and my sons well

>in the face of me and one son having a form of cystic fibrosis. We

>get sick really easily and I work at a large company and am exposed

>to hundreds of people daily. If I *know* I was exposed to something

>on a specific day, I take my clothes off the minute I get home and

>soak them in diet tonic water and peroxide and hit the shower and

>irrigate my sinuses. Then I load up on supplements. But supplements

>alone wouldn't do it for me.

>

>Michele

><http://www.healthgazelle.org>http://www.healthgazelle.org

><http://www.kidslikemine.org>http://www.kidslikemine.org

><http://www.solanorail.org>http://www.solanorail.org

>

>

>

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> Peroxide is a pretty strong oxydizer. Keep exposure to a minimum. You

> wouldn't rub your kid down with chlorine bleach, would you?

No, I wouldn't. But, unlike bleach, peroxide is non-toxic. It biodegrades into

water and oxygen. Yes, it's a bleach substitute. In the amount you use in a

wipe, it seems perfectly safe to me. I prefer them to other types of

disinfecting wipes or to hand santizers.

>

> I would suggest rubbing alcohol wipes instead. (Alcohol prep wipes,

> at any pharmacy.)

I don't like rubbing alcohol. I seem to react badly to all kinds of alcohol. But

it's always good for there to be multiple options suggested so people can pick

and choose what best works for them.

>

> Why diet tonic water?

>

It contains quinine but doesn't leave the sugary residue that regular tonic

water would. If someone wants to look for extract from the bark of the cinchona

tree, they can. I haven't gone there (yet) in part because diet tonic water is

cheap and readily available at my grocery store.

Michele

http://www.healthgazelle.org

http://www.kidslikemine.org

http://www.solanorail.org

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Roche Holding says it can deliver 3 million doses of Tamiflu for swine flu . . .

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/roche-holding-says-can-deliver/story.aspx?\

guid=%7B9586B525-63BB-43B6-BD5A-551BFE6AAC55%7D & dist=msr_1

or this tiny url if the above doesn't work . . .

http://tinyurl.com/cun6u6

They'll probably make it " available " for high risk populations and those in the

hot zones.

>

> I was away for a week on holidays and was blissfully disconnected from the

internet and the news and come home to hear that the world is braced for a

possible pandemic!

>

> I haven't even unpacked my bags yet and I'm already wondering if I'm going to

have to take my kids out of school to protect them from forced vaccines, which I

can only imagine given the media coverage is coming soon. Probably to the US

first by the sounds of it.

>

> So can someone point me to some real sources of info about this? What is this

flu? What are the symptoms? Is this hype or is this a real threat?

>

> And what natural supplements should we be taking to keep the immune system

strong in case of exposure?

>

> Thanks,

>

>

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> > Peroxide is a pretty strong oxydizer. Keep exposure to a minimum. You

>> wouldn't rub your kid down with chlorine bleach, would you?

>

>No, I wouldn't. But, unlike bleach, peroxide is

>non-toxic. It biodegrades into water and oxygen.

Myth. Hydrogen peroxide is far from non-toxic.

What it degrades to is irrelevant: this will not

happen before you put it into your body, where

many other chemical reactions will occur and do

severe damage at a cellular (DNA) level. It will

produce free-radicals. It is corrosive and an

irritant. It inhibits bone-growth.

Javex/Clorox/Chlorine Bleach (sodium

hypochlorite) biodegrades to table salt (sodium

chloride). Is this relevant to determining how

dangerous bleach is?

" Not A Good Thing "

>Yes, it's a bleach substitute. In the amount you

>use in a wipe, it seems perfectly safe to me.

Just like that little bit of thimerosol seems

perfectly safe to so many in vaccines....

>I prefer them to other types of disinfecting wipes or to hand santizers.

>

>>

>> I would suggest rubbing alcohol wipes instead. (Alcohol prep wipes,

>> at any pharmacy.)

>

>I don't like rubbing alcohol. I seem to react

>badly to all kinds of alcohol. But it's always

>good for there to be multiple options suggested

>so people can pick and choose what best works

>for them.

>

>>

>> Why diet tonic water?

>>

>

>It contains quinine but doesn't leave the sugary

>residue that regular tonic water would. If

>someone wants to look for extract from the bark

>of the cinchona tree, they can. I haven't gone

>there (yet) in part because diet tonic water is

>cheap and readily available at my grocery store.

>

>Michele

><http://www.healthgazelle.org>http://www.healthgazelle.org

><http://www.kidslikemine.org>http://www.kidslikemine.org

><http://www.solanorail.org>http://www.solanorail.org

>

>

>

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> > > Peroxide is a pretty strong oxydizer. Keep exposure to a minimum. You

> >> wouldn't rub your kid down with chlorine bleach, would you?

> >

> >No, I wouldn't. But, unlike bleach, peroxide is

> >non-toxic. It biodegrades into water and oxygen.

>

> Myth. Hydrogen peroxide is far from non-toxic.

> What it degrades to is irrelevant: this will not

> happen before you put it into your body, where

> many other chemical reactions will occur and do

> severe damage at a cellular (DNA) level. It will

> produce free-radicals. It is corrosive and an

> irritant. It inhibits bone-growth.

>

> Javex/Clorox/Chlorine Bleach (sodium

> hypochlorite) biodegrades to table salt (sodium

> chloride). Is this relevant to determining how

> dangerous bleach is?

>

> " Not A Good Thing "

>

>

>

>

> >Yes, it's a bleach substitute. In the amount you

> >use in a wipe, it seems perfectly safe to me.

>

> Just like that little bit of thimerosol seems

> perfectly safe to so many in vaccines....

>

>

Thank you for the feedback. Inflammatory language isn't a convincing argument

in my eyes. I've eliminated all kinds of toxic items from my life. Peroxide

isn't likely to be eliminated. It's a staple in my home.

Michele

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The homoeopathic remedy Anas Barb also known as Oscillococcinum (hope

it's spelt right) in a 200c is a good preventative remedy - I've heard

it is the number one selling alternative flu remedy in Europe. It can

be taken as a preventative or used for treatment - although it is best

to see a homoeopath to get an individualised remedy. On the homoeopathic

lists people are already talking about pooling case information to come

up with a short list of potential remedies just in case there is

substance to the scare.

Some of the history of the Flu pandemic last century was posted and

included information like most people that died were using asprin to

treat the pain and fever.

Gail

> >

> > I was away for a week on holidays and was blissfully disconnected

from the internet and the news and come home to hear that the world is

braced for a possible pandemic!

> >

> > I haven't even unpacked my bags yet and I'm already wondering if I'm

going to have to take my kids out of school to protect them from forced

vaccines, which I can only imagine given the media coverage is coming

soon. Probably to the US first by the sounds of it.

> >

> > So can someone point me to some real sources of info about this?

What is this flu? What are the symptoms? Is this hype or is this a real

threat?

> >

> > And what natural supplements should we be taking to keep the immune

system strong in case of exposure?

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> >

>

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> So can someone point me to some real sources of info about this? What is this

flu? What are the symptoms? Is this hype or is this a real threat?

>

> And what natural supplements should we be taking to keep the immune system

strong in case of exposure?

>

> Thanks,

>

>

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Is this hype? Yes. This is somewhat hyped. Is this a real threat? Yes. it's

that too. The best way to die from it is to ignore it.

Swine Flu was manufactured in a lab:

http://www.infowars.com/medical-director-swine-flu-was-cultured-in-a-laboratory/

You may have noticed that Mexico declared " special powers " for itself.

No, There is already a vaccine for swine flu. Which only confirms it was

created in a lab. Because vaccines take months to make. And I wouldn't take it

anyway. Vaccines depress the immune system:

It was made from many viruses, from many parts of the world. Like Bird Flu,

it tricks the immune system into attacking the body. This is what causes the

lungs to fill with blood. As a result, young strong people with strong immune

systems die from it. The stronger the immune system, the greater the chance of

death. The immune system attacks the lungs and the patient bleeds to death. It

is a cytokine storm. A storm of cell parts caused by the immune system

attacking way too many things in way too many places.

So.. Based upon the (sketchy) available information at the moment. I would..

NOT take lysine. It builds the immune system.

NOT take Black Elderberry extract or Echinacea which goose the immune system.

WOULD NOT USE TAMIFLU. Tamiflu has been shown to be less than useless for this

class of virus. See TAMIFLU below.

Instead I would..

take MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF VITAMIN C – I mean up to 300 grams a day. This would be

equal to 3 grams of vitamin C every 15 minutes, round the clock. Bleeding is

caused by the virus tricking the immune system into attacking the lungs. It

does this by generating free radicals which destroy cells. Vitamin C slows this

process down long enough for your body to begin manufacturing antibodies.

Disease-alikes have been called Ricketsia driven. They suck all the ascorbic

acid out of the system. I would start with 500mg an hour. And ramp all the way

up to 300 Grams a day (12 an hour round the clock). Reduce dosage once a mild

case of the runs develops. This indicates Vitamin C saturation. Maintain

vitamin C saturation for 3 days or until the immune system learns how to make

antibodies. This has been effective for Bird Flu, which also tricks the immune

system.

I would Take Alpha Lipoic Acid 100mg once an hour to recharge all the

antioxidants in my system (including vitamin C) periodically, further

leveraging all the vitamin C.

Eat lots of carrots (beta carotene is a strong antioxidant). And contains

vitamin A.

Take colloidal silver in large amounts orally. Like a tablespoon an hour. To

boost colloidal silver's ability, take orally with Chinese parseley – cilantro.

Or with cilantro extract. Cilantro is a general purpose chelator and will help

break the silver down and move it into the body. Silver has been found to be a

necessary trace element. I would take liberally, but stop once better so I

didn't turn blue. If available take Mild Silver Protien. Silver does not goose

the immune system. It seems to work directly.

Try colloidal silver misted – inhale and spray in nose. Buy a saline solution

nose mister. Pour it out, rinse it. Fill it with CS.

Try grapefruit seed extract. Make grapefruit seed extract mist and use it in

the nose. GSE has been shown to have antiviral properties. It apparently

interferes with attachment to cells. Which does not goose the immune system.

Try Cold-eze and/or Zicam which are zinc gluconate and vitamin C combinations

that bind many common viral receptor sites, rendering viruses unable to attach

to cells. This too does not goose the immune system. When this works, it can

cut the duration of flu in half. You suck on lozenges, and spray the sprayers

in your nose.

See Swine Flu Special Report:

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=swine+flu & hl=en & emb=0 & aq=f#q=++Tv\

++Swine+Flu+Special+Report+ & hl=en & emb=0

Bird Flu: How to prepare and what to do (2 hour video):

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1675161298831679693

Baxter puts live bird flu in vaccinations:

Where Swine Flu Came From:

Flu bug and disappearing microbiologists:

http://jollyrogerrevolution.blogspot.com/2009/04/if-you-sell-crack-join-gang-or-\

rob-mob.html

Chemtrails wear down the immune system:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBBWKvkqQ9o This is applicable because they

affect the lungs and specifically weaken them.

TAMIFLU

Tamiflu recipients have experienced delirium, hallucinations, convulstions and

encephalitis. Dr Larry Brilliant plainly states Tamiflu is " useless " on video:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4945574855615972381

Science Daily 12/03/05 medical experts are stating that tamiflu is " useless " in

treating avian flu. Dr Nguyen Tuong Van of the center for tropical diseases in

Hanoi with experience in treating avian flu says Tamiflu had no effect on h5n1

bird flu – London Sunday Times

>

> I was away for a week on holidays and was blissfully disconnected from the

internet and the news and come home to hear that the world is braced for a

possible pandemic!

>

> I haven't even unpacked my bags yet and I'm already wondering if I'm going to

have to take my kids out of school to protect them from forced vaccines, which I

can only imagine given the media coverage is coming soon. Probably to the US

first by the sounds of it.

>

> So can someone point me to some real sources of info about this? What is this

flu? What are the symptoms? Is this hype or is this a real threat?

>

> And what natural supplements should we be taking to keep the immune system

strong in case of exposure?

>

> Thanks,

>

>

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We use beta glucan, and it isn't cheap and it is potent.

There is one thing to remember, as with most of these antivirals, it is best to

have them on board and building than to try and shove it all at the person at

once....it is hard on the body and worst case scenario it can cause a cytokine

storm which can be very difficult to control...at worst case....fatal....we also

use olive leaf, and keep virastop or PRX at one level....for example we are

stable at 9 virastop a day when someone gets a bug...we double it....and usually

don't have any problems. we have olive leaf at 2000 mg and Vit C at least at 1

gram or more if tolerated...we also use a multi vit and a multi mineral to give

the body fight power...we also have astragulus and make sure we lysine at about

2000 or so a day....and we take GABA to help keep moods even as mental attitude

is important to...

hth

Ronni

>

> >

> > What about beta-glucan?

> >

> >

>

> I'm not personally familiar with it. Hopefully someone else will chime in.

>

> Michele

> http://www.healthgazelle.org

> http://www.kidslikemine.org

> http://www.solanorail.org

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Wow, if the flu doesn't kill you, O'Donnell's advice certainly will.

Let's see:

Alpha Lipoic Acid (the chelator that moves heavy metals to your brain)

+

Silver (toxic heavy metal)

+

Cilantro (more random chelating)

+

Sleep depravation (taking the above every hour around the clock)

Yep, if you survive, it will take decades to

recover from what you've done to your body.

And, I'm sorry, a MILD case of the runs at 300

GRAMS of C????? At that dosage your intestines

are exploding hourly....!!!!!!!

To anybody who has seen the movie " Wag the Dog " :

I think we all know what's going on with this

" swine flu " .

>Is this hype? Yes. This is somewhat hyped. Is

>this a real threat? Yes. it's that too. The best

>way to die from it is to ignore it.

>

>Swine Flu was manufactured in a lab:

><http://www.infowars.com/medical-director-swine-flu-was-cultured-in-a-laborator\

y/>http://www.infowars.com/medical-director-swine-flu-was-cultured-in-a-laborato\

ry/

>You may have noticed that Mexico declared

> " special powers " for itself.

>

>No, There is already a vaccine for swine flu.

>Which only confirms it was created in a lab.

>Because vaccines take months to make. And I

>wouldn't take it anyway. Vaccines depress the

>immune system:

>

>It was made from many viruses, from many parts

>of the world. Like Bird Flu, it tricks the

>immune system into attacking the body. This is

>what causes the lungs to fill with blood. As a

>result, young strong people with strong immune

>systems die from it. The stronger the immune

>system, the greater the chance of death. The

>immune system attacks the lungs and the patient

>bleeds to death. It is a cytokine storm. A storm

>of cell parts caused by the immune system

>attacking way too many things in way too many

>places.

>

>So.. Based upon the (sketchy) available information at the moment. I would..

>

>NOT take lysine. It builds the immune system.

>

>NOT take Black Elderberry extract or Echinacea which goose the immune system.

>

>WOULD NOT USE TAMIFLU. Tamiflu has been shown to

>be less than useless for this class of virus.

>See TAMIFLU below.

>

>Instead I would..

>

>take MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF VITAMIN C – I mean up to

>300 grams a day. This would be equal to 3 grams

>of vitamin C every 15 minutes, round the clock.

>Bleeding is caused by the virus tricking the

>immune system into attacking the lungs. It does

>this by generating free radicals which destroy

>cells. Vitamin C slows this process down long

>enough for your body to begin manufacturing

>antibodies. Disease-alikes have been called

>Ricketsia driven. They suck all the ascorbic

>acid out of the system. I would start with 500mg

>an hour. And ramp all the way up to 300 Grams a

>day (12 an hour round the clock). Reduce dosage

>once a mild case of the runs develops. This

>indicates Vitamin C saturation. Maintain vitamin

>C saturation for 3 days or until the immune

>system learns how to make antibodies. This has

>been effective for Bird Flu, which also tricks

>the immune system.

>

>I would Take Alpha Lipoic Acid 100mg once an

>hour to recharge all the antioxidants in my

>system (including vitamin C) periodically,

>further leveraging all the vitamin C.

>

>Eat lots of carrots (beta carotene is a strong

>antioxidant). And contains vitamin A.

>

>Take colloidal silver in large amounts orally.

>Like a tablespoon an hour. To boost colloidal

>silver's ability, take orally with Chinese

>parseley – cilantro. Or with cilantro extract.

>Cilantro is a general purpose chelator and will

>help break the silver down and move it into the

>body. Silver has been found to be a necessary

>trace element. I would take liberally, but stop

>once better so I didn't turn blue. If available

>take Mild Silver Protien. Silver does not goose

>the immune system. It seems to work directly.

>

>Try colloidal silver misted – inhale and spray

>in nose. Buy a saline solution nose mister. Pour

>it out, rinse it. Fill it with CS.

>

>Try grapefruit seed extract. Make grapefruit

>seed extract mist and use it in the nose. GSE

>has been shown to have antiviral properties. It

>apparently interferes with attachment to cells.

>Which does not goose the immune system.

>

>Try Cold-eze and/or Zicam which are zinc

>gluconate and vitamin C combinations that bind

>many common viral receptor sites, rendering

>viruses unable to attach to cells. This too does

>not goose the immune system. When this works, it

>can cut the duration of flu in half. You suck on

>lozenges, and spray the sprayers in your nose.

>

>See Swine Flu Special Report:

><http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=swine+flu & hl=en & emb=0 & aq=f#q=++\

Tv++Swine+Flu+Special+Report+ & hl=en & emb=0>http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=\

swine+flu & hl=en & emb=0 & aq=f#q=++Tv++Swine+Flu+Special+Report+ & hl=en & emb=\

0

>

>Bird Flu: How to prepare and what to do (2 hour

>video):

><http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1675161298831679693>http://video.goog\

le.com/videoplay?docid=-1675161298831679693

>

>Baxter puts live bird flu in vaccinations:

><

nt-2t1s

>

>Where Swine Flu Came From:

><

evtUgks

>

>Flu bug and disappearing microbiologists:

><http://jollyrogerrevolution.blogspot.com/2009/04/if-you-sell-crack-join-gang-o\

r-rob-mob.html>http://jollyrogerrevolution.blogspot.com/2009/04/if-you-sell-crac\

k-join-gang-or-rob-mob.html

>

>Chemtrails wear down the immune system:

><http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBBWKvkqQ9o>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBBW\

KvkqQ9o

>This is applicable because they affect the lungs

>and specifically weaken them.

>

>TAMIFLU

>

>Tamiflu recipients have experienced delirium,

>hallucinations, convulstions and encephalitis.

>Dr Larry Brilliant plainly states Tamiflu is

> " useless " on video:

><http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4945574855615972381>http://video.googl\

e.com/videoplay?docid=4945574855615972381

>

>Science Daily 12/03/05 medical experts are

>stating that tamiflu is " useless " in treating

>avian flu. Dr Nguyen Tuong Van of the center for

>tropical diseases in Hanoi with experience in

>treating avian flu says Tamiflu had no effect on

>h5n1 bird flu – London Sunday Times

>

>

>>

>> I was away for a week on holidays and was

>>blissfully disconnected from the internet and

>>the news and come home to hear that the world

>>is braced for a possible pandemic!

>>

>> I haven't even unpacked my bags yet and I'm

>>already wondering if I'm going to have to take

>>my kids out of school to protect them from

>>forced vaccines, which I can only imagine given

>>the media coverage is coming soon. Probably to

>>the US first by the sounds of it.

>>

>> So can someone point me to some real sources

>>of info about this? What is this flu? What are

>>the symptoms? Is this hype or is this a real

>>threat?

>>

>> And what natural supplements should we be

>>taking to keep the immune system strong in case

>>of exposure?

>>

>> Thanks,

>>

>>

>

>

>

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>Wow, if the flu doesn't kill you, O'Donnell's advice certainly >will.

I agree. This advice is based on insanity IMO.

I particulary like this one:

" I would Take Alpha Lipoic Acid 100mg once an hour to recharge all the

antioxidants in my system (including vitamin C) periodically, further

leveraging all the vitamin C..... "

Leveraging the 300g Vitamin C???

I believe O'Donnell has been taking a lot of ALA recently but is probably

skipping nightime doses ;)

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Calling something " inflammatory " just because you disagree with it and it was

stated strongly, is, as Andy puts it, good sophistry.

It's your body. Too bad some of us replace one poison with another one.

> >

> > > > Peroxide is a pretty strong oxydizer. Keep exposure to a minimum. You

> > >> wouldn't rub your kid down with chlorine bleach, would you?

> > >

> > >No, I wouldn't. But, unlike bleach, peroxide is

> > >non-toxic. It biodegrades into water and oxygen.

> >

> > Myth. Hydrogen peroxide is far from non-toxic.

> > What it degrades to is irrelevant: this will not

> > happen before you put it into your body, where

> > many other chemical reactions will occur and do

> > severe damage at a cellular (DNA) level. It will

> > produce free-radicals. It is corrosive and an

> > irritant. It inhibits bone-growth.

> >

> > Javex/Clorox/Chlorine Bleach (sodium

> > hypochlorite) biodegrades to table salt (sodium

> > chloride). Is this relevant to determining how

> > dangerous bleach is?

> >

> > " Not A Good Thing " �

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > >Yes, it's a bleach substitute. In the amount you

> > >use in a wipe, it seems perfectly safe to me.

> >

> > Just like that little bit of thimerosol seems

> > perfectly safe to so many in vaccines....

> >

> >

>

> Thank you for the feedback. Inflammatory language isn't a convincing argument

in my eyes. I've eliminated all kinds of toxic items from my life. Peroxide

isn't likely to be eliminated. It's a staple in my home.

>

> Michele

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Please not that over use of Vit D makes Vit A deplete...also throws off the Vit

K.

This is a lesson I have learned as this is an issue my kids are facing because

of calcium malabsorption. If you are gf/cf....then you would also need to look

in to supping phosphorus...

If you are interested in more info...check out the group for Vit K.

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> > So can someone point me to some real sources of info about this? What is

this flu? What are the symptoms? Is this hype or is this a real threat?

> >

> > And what natural supplements should we be taking to keep the immune system

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Is this because of the cytokine storms that can occur? I know that elderberry

has been listed as another one that can cause this issue.

Ronni

>

>

> [ ] Re: Swine flu questions

>

> Other good anti-virals:

>

> Vitamin A

> Vitamin E

> OLE

>

> Keeping the body at the proper PH. (Most Americans are too acid.)

>

> Michele

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I don't mean to sound arguementitive, but why are more Mexican people

getting this disease...and seemingly worse. I would think that the people

their would really fair game for the virus.

Ronni

>

> [ ] Re: Swine flu questions

>

> Other good anti-virals:

>

> Vitamin A

> Vitamin E

> OLE

>

> Keeping the body at the proper PH. (Most Americans are too acid.)

>

> Michele

> http://www.healthgazelle.org

> http://www.kidslikemine.org

> http://www.solanorail.org

>

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My understanding and experience, is that when the body becomes overwhelmed with

things given it to fight the virus, it goes nuts and fights

everything...including itself and shuts down. It also can cause an allergic

reaction to the virus or the viral die off...not a fun time.

Ronni

>

>

> [ ] Re: Swine flu questions

> >

> > Other good anti-virals:

> >

> > Vitamin A

> > Vitamin E

> > OLE

> >

> > Keeping the body at the proper PH. (Most Americans are too acid.)

> >

> > Michele

> > http://www.healthgazelle.org

> > http://www.kidslikemine.org

> > http://www.solanorail.org

> >

> >

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Just to chirp in, doesn't Mexico City (where this seems to concentrated) have

the second largest population and is severely overcrowded?  It could be why it

spread so fast and to so many people.

 

S.

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Subject: [ ] Re: Swine flu questions

Date: Monday, April 27, 2009, 11:21 AM

,

I don't mean to sound arguementitive, but why are more Mexican people

getting this disease...and seemingly worse. I would think that the people their

would really fair game for the virus.

Ronni

>

> [ ] Re: Swine flu questions

>

> Other good anti-virals:

>

> Vitamin A

> Vitamin E

> OLE

>

> Keeping the body at the proper PH. (Most Americans are too acid.)

>

> Michele

> http://www.healthga zelle.org

> http://www.kidslike mine.org

> http://www.solanora il.org

>

>

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