Re: Light at the end of the tunnel

[Guest guest]

Hi, I am not familiar with the Cutler protocol, where can I find more info?

thanks

>

> Hi All,

>

> For older members..... long time eh?

>

> Well not that long really, just very busy with work commitments and

> getting my daughter better, so I haven't had much free time to be

> keeping up with group posts.

>

> Still don't have a lot of time but I thought a quick update was in

> order.......

>

> We have been continuing with Cutler protocol and the improvements keep

> coming. As cognition improves, the general improvement is starting to

> seem exponential.

>

> Anyway, while we still have a way to go, the light at the end of the

> tunnel keeps getting bigger and brighter, and we are now at a point

> where my daughter will commence school next year with no aids or

> assistance. Not bad for a little girl that lost everything.

>

> Big thankyou again to all of the helpful people on this group,

> particularly Andy, and I hope a some of the people I have tried to help

> along the way are now also seeing good results.

>

> Keep up the good fight!

>

> Cheers

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

go to the file section of this group and look for Andy Cutler Chelation

protocol.

On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 9:28 PM, mao_xiong <mao_xiong@...> wrote:

>

>

> Hi, I am not familiar with the Cutler protocol, where can I find more info?

> thanks

>

>

>

>

> >

> > Hi All,

> >

> > For older members..... long time eh?

> >

> > Well not that long really, just very busy with work commitments and

> > getting my daughter better, so I haven't had much free time to be

> > keeping up with group posts.

> >

> > Still don't have a lot of time but I thought a quick update was in

> > order.......

> >

> > We have been continuing with Cutler protocol and the improvements keep

> > coming. As cognition improves, the general improvement is starting to

> > seem exponential.

> >

> > Anyway, while we still have a way to go, the light at the end of the

> > tunnel keeps getting bigger and brighter, and we are now at a point

> > where my daughter will commence school next year with no aids or

> > assistance. Not bad for a little girl that lost everything.

> >

> > Big thankyou again to all of the helpful people on this group,

> > particularly Andy, and I hope a some of the people I have tried to help

> > along the way are now also seeing good results.

> >

> > Keep up the good fight!

> >

> > Cheers

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

--

Priscilla

[Guest guest]

many smiles and a total happy dance on your behalf. elizabeth

>

> Hi All,

>

> For older members..... long time eh?

>

> Well not that long really, just very busy with work commitments and

> getting my daughter better, so I haven't had much free time to be

> keeping up with group posts.

>

> Still don't have a lot of time but I thought a quick update was in

> order.......

>

> We have been continuing with Cutler protocol and the improvements keep

> coming. As cognition improves, the general improvement is starting to

> seem exponential.

>

> Anyway, while we still have a way to go, the light at the end of the

> tunnel keeps getting bigger and brighter, and we are now at a point

> where my daughter will commence school next year with no aids or

> assistance. Not bad for a little girl that lost everything.

>

> Big thankyou again to all of the helpful people on this group,

> particularly Andy, and I hope a some of the people I have tried to help

> along the way are now also seeing good results.

>

> Keep up the good fight!

>

> Cheers

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for checking in with us. I hope you are able to do so more often. I miss

your posts.

TJ

________________________________

From: Reynolds <peter@...>

Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 10:27:53 PM

Subject: [ ] Light at the end of the tunnel

 

Hi All,

For older members..... long time eh?

Well not that long really, just very busy with work commitments and

getting my daughter better, so I haven't had much free time to be

keeping up with group posts.

Still don't have a lot of time but I thought a quick update was in

order.......

We have been continuing with Cutler protocol and the improvements keep

coming. As cognition improves, the general improvement is starting to

seem exponential.

Anyway, while we still have a way to go, the light at the end of the

tunnel keeps getting bigger and brighter, and we are now at a point

where my daughter will commence school next year with no aids or

assistance. Not bad for a little girl that lost everything.

Big thankyou again to all of the helpful people on this group,

particularly Andy, and I hope a some of the people I have tried to help

along the way are now also seeing good results.

Keep up the good fight!

Cheers

[Guest guest]

Make sure you read the FAQs that were sent you when you joined the group. There

is a wealth of information there and it will help you to get up to speed.

TJ

________________________________

From: mao_xiong <mao_xiong@...>

Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 6:28:19 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: Light at the end of the tunnel

 

Hi, I am not familiar with the Cutler protocol, where can I find more info?

thanks

>

> Hi All,

>

> For older members..... long time eh?

>

> Well not that long really, just very busy with work commitments and

> getting my daughter better, so I haven't had much free time to be

> keeping up with group posts.

>

> Still don't have a lot of time but I thought a quick update was in

> order.......

>

> We have been continuing with Cutler protocol and the improvements keep

> coming. As cognition improves, the general improvement is starting to

> seem exponential.

>

> Anyway, while we still have a way to go, the light at the end of the

> tunnel keeps getting bigger and brighter, and we are now at a point

> where my daughter will commence school next year with no aids or

> assistance. Not bad for a little girl that lost everything.

>

> Big thankyou again to all of the helpful people on this group,

> particularly Andy, and I hope a some of the people I have tried to help

> along the way are now also seeing good results.

>

> Keep up the good fight!

>

> Cheers

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi

That's fantastic news!! Can you share with me how many rounds you have

completed? I have completed 83 rounds of chelation with my son - taking a 4 week

break at the moment due to gut strep issues. Even though he has made some great

gains I wonder how many rounds we would have to do before getting a wonderful

result such as your daughter!

Thanks Donna

>

> Hi All,

>

> For older members..... long time eh?

>

> Well not that long really, just very busy with work commitments and

> getting my daughter better, so I haven't had much free time to be

> keeping up with group posts.

>

> Still don't have a lot of time but I thought a quick update was in

> order.......

>

> We have been continuing with Cutler protocol and the improvements keep

> coming. As cognition improves, the general improvement is starting to

> seem exponential.

>

> Anyway, while we still have a way to go, the light at the end of the

> tunnel keeps getting bigger and brighter, and we are now at a point

> where my daughter will commence school next year with no aids or

> assistance. Not bad for a little girl that lost everything.

>

> Big thankyou again to all of the helpful people on this group,

> particularly Andy, and I hope a some of the people I have tried to help

> along the way are now also seeing good results.

>

> Keep up the good fight!

>

> Cheers

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, ,

Great to hear from you! So glad to hear Maya is doing so well. Great news about

school.

What round are you on?

We are on round 30 and continue to see improvements with every round. Thank you

Andy, and thank you for urging us to use the AC Protocol instead of the

DAN protocol. That was probably the most important decision we made in our kid's

recovery.

We went to a baseball game tonight with our 3 kids and afterwards my husband and

I talked about how much fun it is now that our son's anxiety is greatly

decreased and his sociability is greatly increased. He enjoyed the game and

played with his brother and sister and danced along to the silly music they play

in between innings.

We went to a barbecue yesterday and Pete (our son) played with the kid toys, did

a water experiment in the grass, read on the bed, but didn't cry or ask to go

home. And when adults questioned him, he answered in his own, scripty way,

instead of ignoring them.

So, while he quoted cookbooks to the adults (yes, he has a ways to go) he was

happy and related and sort of on topic. Mostly, we are thrilled with the

reduction in anxiety and separateness. He also did something wonderful at the

ball park tonight - his little brother got caught in one of the folding seats

and was crying and Pete was trying to pull him out and help him.

Thank you, , for telling us about the light at the end of the tunnel. We

need to hear about it! We see it, too, but ours is a little smaller.

Maggied.

>

> Hi All,

>

> For older members..... long time eh?

>

> Well not that long really, just very busy with work commitments and

> getting my daughter better, so I haven't had much free time to be

> keeping up with group posts.

>

> Still don't have a lot of time but I thought a quick update was in

> order.......

>

> We have been continuing with Cutler protocol and the improvements keep

> coming. As cognition improves, the general improvement is starting to

> seem exponential.

>

> Anyway, while we still have a way to go, the light at the end of the

> tunnel keeps getting bigger and brighter, and we are now at a point

> where my daughter will commence school next year with no aids or

> assistance. Not bad for a little girl that lost everything.

>

> Big thankyou again to all of the helpful people on this group,

> particularly Andy, and I hope a some of the people I have tried to help

> along the way are now also seeing good results.

>

> Keep up the good fight!

>

> Cheers

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Again,

Thanks everyone for the well wishes.

- I tried responding to you email about different groups etc,

but for some reason the email bounced, or was rejected. Maybe you could

email me from another email address?

A few people had questions too, so I'll try and answer them.

AC protocol has definitely been the main thing by far. I think its

critical to remove the damaging elements, but then to also follow up

with nutritional and fatty acid support so the body has all the building

blocks it needs to repair the damage that was done by elements like Hg.

I know some " health professionals " get fixated on GI issues, and I agree

they are important, but if they ignore the brain then they are going to

end up going round in circles as the brain relies on the gut for support

of certain functions, the gut also relies on the brain for certain

signals and control of processes.

I think fatty acid support is critical and we've also seen some good

things when giving phosphatidyserine and ginkgo biloba at the same time,

so that's become another staple for us.

At the start we had some lead issues too, so we started with DMSA only.

We saw some improvements initially.

We then moved to doing DMSA + ALA, and sometimes we do ALA only rounds

if neutrophils are a bit down, or there are other signs that the immune

system is down. We seem to do better on DMSA + ALA. We haven't had any

liver issues and the response to milk thistle has been excellent in

bringing AST and ALT down.

We've done about 70 rounds, and I know some people have done many more

before they see such a result, so I guess we are one of the lucky ones

in getting such a response sooner. I know Andy says its usually

somewhere between 100 to 300 rounds, so it looks like we'll be closer to

the early 100s end of that range, but even so we will continue for quite

a while afterwards to be absolutely certain.

The reality is, even if two twins got exposed to exactly the same amount

of mercury, the damage that is done won't be EXACTLY the same (eg they

might have had different levels of selenium at the time of exposure) and

so recovery time will probably be different and one child might have

more troubles with certain things and need more support in other areas,

even though in both cases you are dealing with mercury poisoning. Which

brings us back to one of the main problems with Autism, which is the

label. It stops health practitioners from looking for the actually

health problems, and they treat the label and not the individual patient.

I have a neighbour who has had to deal with this problem. Over the last

decade she has been diagnosed by different doctors at differnent times

with chronic fatigue, lupus, and even MS. Over time she has been

getting worse and worse. The labels didn't seem to be doing her much

good. I told her to get Andy's book and at least consider mercury as a

potential problem, both from her exposure at a pharmacy, and also from

amalgams. Well she did, and I ran into her again recently and she told

me she was starting to get better after following Andy's book.

I know Andy often stresses to look at the patient, not the label. He's

spot on.

We are not out of the woods yet, but were getting closer to the edge,

the trees are thinning out and the light is a lot brighter. And by

continually looking at the patient and not the label, we keep moving

forward, one step at a time.

Hope that answers the questions.

Cheers to everyone.

Keep up the good fight!

[Guest guest]

Hi , I have missed you. Our son is doing very well.

Liz

>

> Hi Again,

>

> Thanks everyone for the well wishes.

>

> - I tried responding to you email about different groups etc,

> but for some reason the email bounced, or was rejected. Maybe you could

> email me from another email address?

>

> A few people had questions too, so I'll try and answer them.

>

> AC protocol has definitely been the main thing by far. I think its

> critical to remove the damaging elements, but then to also follow up

> with nutritional and fatty acid support so the body has all the building

> blocks it needs to repair the damage that was done by elements like Hg.

>

> I know some " health professionals " get fixated on GI issues, and I agree

> they are important, but if they ignore the brain then they are going to

> end up going round in circles as the brain relies on the gut for support

> of certain functions, the gut also relies on the brain for certain

> signals and control of processes.

>

> I think fatty acid support is critical and we've also seen some good

> things when giving phosphatidyserine and ginkgo biloba at the same time,

> so that's become another staple for us.

>

> At the start we had some lead issues too, so we started with DMSA only.

> We saw some improvements initially.

>

> We then moved to doing DMSA + ALA, and sometimes we do ALA only rounds

> if neutrophils are a bit down, or there are other signs that the immune

> system is down. We seem to do better on DMSA + ALA. We haven't had any

> liver issues and the response to milk thistle has been excellent in

> bringing AST and ALT down.

>

> We've done about 70 rounds, and I know some people have done many more

> before they see such a result, so I guess we are one of the lucky ones

> in getting such a response sooner. I know Andy says its usually

> somewhere between 100 to 300 rounds, so it looks like we'll be closer to

> the early 100s end of that range, but even so we will continue for quite

> a while afterwards to be absolutely certain.

>

> The reality is, even if two twins got exposed to exactly the same amount

> of mercury, the damage that is done won't be EXACTLY the same (eg they

> might have had different levels of selenium at the time of exposure) and

> so recovery time will probably be different and one child might have

> more troubles with certain things and need more support in other areas,

> even though in both cases you are dealing with mercury poisoning. Which

> brings us back to one of the main problems with Autism, which is the

> label. It stops health practitioners from looking for the actually

> health problems, and they treat the label and not the individual patient.

>

> I have a neighbour who has had to deal with this problem. Over the last

> decade she has been diagnosed by different doctors at differnent times

> with chronic fatigue, lupus, and even MS. Over time she has been

> getting worse and worse. The labels didn't seem to be doing her much

> good. I told her to get Andy's book and at least consider mercury as a

> potential problem, both from her exposure at a pharmacy, and also from

> amalgams. Well she did, and I ran into her again recently and she told

> me she was starting to get better after following Andy's book.

>

> I know Andy often stresses to look at the patient, not the label. He's

> spot on.

>

> We are not out of the woods yet, but were getting closer to the edge,

> the trees are thinning out and the light is a lot brighter. And by

> continually looking at the patient and not the label, we keep moving

> forward, one step at a time.

>

> Hope that answers the questions.

>

> Cheers to everyone.

>

> Keep up the good fight!

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

Is she on any special diet? I just took mine off the gfcf diet and I still feel

guitly about it. There isn't much a difference in her off of it though. So I am

wondering if your daughter is recovering with no special diet, I know many kids

have.

Also, what dose of ALA and DMSA is she on? We're at round 48 and 14mg of each.

Just wondering! I feel like I'm not raising doses fast enough.

Thanks .

> >

> > Hi Again,

> >

> > Thanks everyone for the well wishes.

> >

> > - I tried responding to you email about different groups etc,

> > but for some reason the email bounced, or was rejected. Maybe you could

> > email me from another email address?

> >

> > A few people had questions too, so I'll try and answer them.

> >

> > AC protocol has definitely been the main thing by far. I think its

> > critical to remove the damaging elements, but then to also follow up

> > with nutritional and fatty acid support so the body has all the building

> > blocks it needs to repair the damage that was done by elements like Hg.

> >

> > I know some " health professionals " get fixated on GI issues, and I agree

> > they are important, but if they ignore the brain then they are going to

> > end up going round in circles as the brain relies on the gut for support

> > of certain functions, the gut also relies on the brain for certain

> > signals and control of processes.

> >

> > I think fatty acid support is critical and we've also seen some good

> > things when giving phosphatidyserine and ginkgo biloba at the same time,

> > so that's become another staple for us.

> >

> > At the start we had some lead issues too, so we started with DMSA only.

> > We saw some improvements initially.

> >

> > We then moved to doing DMSA + ALA, and sometimes we do ALA only rounds

> > if neutrophils are a bit down, or there are other signs that the immune

> > system is down. We seem to do better on DMSA + ALA. We haven't had any

> > liver issues and the response to milk thistle has been excellent in

> > bringing AST and ALT down.

> >

> > We've done about 70 rounds, and I know some people have done many more

> > before they see such a result, so I guess we are one of the lucky ones

> > in getting such a response sooner. I know Andy says its usually

> > somewhere between 100 to 300 rounds, so it looks like we'll be closer to

> > the early 100s end of that range, but even so we will continue for quite

> > a while afterwards to be absolutely certain.

> >

> > The reality is, even if two twins got exposed to exactly the same amount

> > of mercury, the damage that is done won't be EXACTLY the same (eg they

> > might have had different levels of selenium at the time of exposure) and

> > so recovery time will probably be different and one child might have

> > more troubles with certain things and need more support in other areas,

> > even though in both cases you are dealing with mercury poisoning. Which

> > brings us back to one of the main problems with Autism, which is the

> > label. It stops health practitioners from looking for the actually

> > health problems, and they treat the label and not the individual patient.

> >

> > I have a neighbour who has had to deal with this problem. Over the last

> > decade she has been diagnosed by different doctors at differnent times

> > with chronic fatigue, lupus, and even MS. Over time she has been

> > getting worse and worse. The labels didn't seem to be doing her much

> > good. I told her to get Andy's book and at least consider mercury as a

> > potential problem, both from her exposure at a pharmacy, and also from

> > amalgams. Well she did, and I ran into her again recently and she told

> > me she was starting to get better after following Andy's book.

> >

> > I know Andy often stresses to look at the patient, not the label. He's

> > spot on.

> >

> > We are not out of the woods yet, but were getting closer to the edge,

> > the trees are thinning out and the light is a lot brighter. And by

> > continually looking at the patient and not the label, we keep moving

> > forward, one step at a time.

> >

> > Hope that answers the questions.

> >

> > Cheers to everyone.

> >

> > Keep up the good fight!

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

This is very exciting, simply amazing !!! You are a great dad !!!!

Wishing you guys more and more success !!! We cant wait to be there !!!

>

> Hi All,

>

> For older members..... long time eh?

>

> Well not that long really, just very busy with work commitments and

> getting my daughter better, so I haven't had much free time to be

> keeping up with group posts.

>

> Still don't have a lot of time but I thought a quick update was in

> order.......

>

> We have been continuing with Cutler protocol and the improvements keep

> coming. As cognition improves, the general improvement is starting to

> seem exponential.

>

> Anyway, while we still have a way to go, the light at the end of the

> tunnel keeps getting bigger and brighter, and we are now at a point

> where my daughter will commence school next year with no aids or

> assistance. Not bad for a little girl that lost everything.

>

> Big thankyou again to all of the helpful people on this group,

> particularly Andy, and I hope a some of the people I have tried to help

> along the way are now also seeing good results.

>

> Keep up the good fight!

>

> Cheers

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Welcome back. We found out our whole family has lyme disease. Our son is getting

worse, he quit chelating after 8 months, and did well for a while but he says

started going down hill again 2 months after stopping. We are about to start him

back up ac chelating again while zinc loading again. Glad to hear about your

daughter.

[Guest guest]

,

Ouch! How are you doing? Is everyone responding to treatment?

Pam

>

> Hi ,

>

> Welcome back. We found out our whole family has lyme disease. Our son is

getting worse, he quit chelating after 8 months, and did well for a while but he

says started going down hill again 2 months after stopping. We are about to

start him back up ac chelating again while zinc loading again. Glad to hear

about your daughter.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

We are not doing well considering the series of events we cannot talk about. As

far as lyme goes we really have a handle on it and everyone is responding to

treatment. Of course, we won't be able to continue treatment in a FEMA

detainment camp, so that could be a problem in the very near future. Also with

codex taking away the vitamins by December, no one on this list will be able to

chelate anymore, but hey, we probably aren't " allowed " to talk about that

either. Oh, and they are banning organically grown foods, the only kinds

allowed will be genetically modified from Monsanto. Google Agenda 21, Google

Forced Manditory Vaccinations, Google Illuminati, Google Codex Alimentarius,

while you still have the internet. While we are talking about banned stuff. If

anyone would like to know how to become a Christian, I would be glad to explain

to you how offlist. One of the only things left to do is make sure our loved

ones (and I love you all on this list) know Jesus Christ as their saviour.