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Hi ...

SAMe is does not have any contraindications as far as I know. Curious why

you are wanting to take 600mg og coq10? Also research has shown that the

water soluble Coq10 is the the best.

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Re: [Lyme-aid] Mental

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>In a message dated 7/14/99 10:34:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

>F.Byron@... writes:

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><< Beware folks...not all SAMe is the same...should come from Europe

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>thanks for that little bit of info Byron..I am on my way out to pick it up

>tomorrow. Do you think this is something I can take without having to ask

my

>doc? I mean is it like a supplement or herb? And do you thin it is okay to

>take with other supplements, like cOq10? I take 240mgs of that daily trying

>to work my way up to 600 mgs daily. Just wondering what your thoughts are

abt

>that ?

>Thanks

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Bridget....I am so sorry you are feeling so anxious...and it will diminish somewhat in time. Of course I can only speak for myself, but I experience the same fear. I HATE being alone!

In fact there was a time (right after getting zapped) that I moved in with my parents temporarily.

I am a single Mother and at the time the kids were 3 and 5...I had to leave them with strangers as I was wheeled to the ambulence. I can remember the sound of there cries to this day..and I vowed never again would they be placed in such a vulnerable position.

But time goes on and suddenly one day you are ready to try living a normal life again. From what I know of you..you are a strong, intelligent woman. The mental anguish you speak of isn't experienced by everyone....BUT, I have it!! So you are not alone.

I talk about my feelings to my family...I have spoken to a therapist...and I write daily in a journal , as a way to ease the stress and anxiety. I sincerely hope this helps. And of course...we are all here, and willing to help. Please take care.

Love and concern,

Love give me Strength, and Strength shall help afford...

Shakespeare

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Hi Bridget

I haven't been zapped yet, but I do understand your not wanting to be

alone. There are very view times in which I'm comfortable with being

alone - a quick store trip, pharmacy for meds, and I will go to the

larger food store and Walmarts because they have those motorized

carts, which I always use so that I won't get worn out. I always

make sure that I've had a meal before I go so that I won't get

dizzy. I usually only go somewhere about 3 or 4 times a month.

I sure hope that you're feeling better.

Judy

>

> How many of you get zapped regularly? How do you come to terms

with

> this? I thought I was doing okay until I got zapped at the grocery

> store yesterday. Actually it was in the parking lot just after I

> finished putting everything in the car and returning the cart. I

> felt it coming this time, which was different. But now, my problem

> is, I suddenly do not want to be alone anywhere. I was afraid to

> drive home. Will I get a grip on this in time? Does everyone go

> through this and then it levels out again emotionally, I mean?

>

> Bridget

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Hello Bridget;

I don't think(in my case that is) one ever out grows or gets used to getting

zapped. Although it has been 2 years since i have got zapped everytime i

feel a little flutter i still get paranoid. Fisrt of all my doctor said I

should take it easy because i was on the wrong meds thats why i got zapped

so many time each time which was at least 5 6 sometime 9 times. When you get

zapped do you get zapped once or is it more? I wish you and everyone zapless

life. Love TURK

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Thanks . Very well put. My sentiments exactly. Love TURK

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>Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 15:31:13 EST

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>Bridget....I am so sorry you are feeling so anxious...and it will diminish

>somewhat in time. Of course I can only speak for myself, but I experience

>the same fear. I HATE being alone!

>In fact there was a time (right after getting zapped) that I moved in with

>my

>parents temporarily.

>

>I am a single Mother and at the time the kids were 3 and 5...I had to leave

>them with strangers as I was wheeled to the ambulence. I can remember the

>sound of there cries to this day..and I vowed never again would they be

>placed in such a vulnerable position.

>

>But time goes on and suddenly one day you are ready to try living a normal

>life again. From what I know of you..you are a strong, intelligent woman.

>The

>mental anguish you speak of isn't experienced by everyone....BUT, I have

>it!!

>So you are not alone.

>

>I talk about my feelings to my family...I have spoken to a therapist...and

>I

>write daily in a journal , as a way to ease the stress and anxiety. I

>sincerely hope this helps. And of course...we are all here, and willing to

>help. Please take care.

>Love and concern,

>

>

>

>

>

>

>Love give me Strength, and Strength shall help afford...

>

>

> Shakespeare

> Romeo and t

>

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I get them one at a time. The meds they put me on to keep my heart

rate low are working but they are also making me feel like my

daughter's iguana; he moves about twice a day and then veeerrryyyy

slowly. So I really don't want any more meds.

This last zap was different anyway. I got lightheaded and nearly

passed out first. That's never happened before, so I suspect this

was my first truly 'appropriate' shock.

Bridget

When you get

> zapped do you get zapped once or is it more?

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Dear Bridget, How often I have been in your shoes. As you may remember I am the one who no longer drives as I don't get enough warning when receiving a full zap. The icd that I have now has been implanted since 7/1999. It has fired several times and just recently I have been getting zapped more often.

I thought that I was finally out of the woods and fully in charge of myself. Then I got zapped I was just sitting on the couch and ended up on the floor. I was afraid to move I set there and thought on my God is it going to happen again, is it broke. Did that really just happen and then I started to cry? Then I thought well gosh I am still here and I am still breathing and it not doing it again so I gave myself a lecture got myself up and dusted myself off only to fall apart all over again. It took me a very sleepless night and a great deal of anxiety to make it till morning then I called to have it read. They said oh yes you really need it look her on this printout your lower chamber was getting no blood flow if you had not been zapped you would have died (blunt version). Then I thought thank God have it and I am still here. Then I thought on my GOD what if it happen not worked I'd be dead. (no way to win with me). So it was off to a phone call to my shrink who made me come it for a visit.

Since that day I have been shocked about 8 more times they tell me I am just going through a cycle that it could just run it self out or I may be in for a long hall. I have been looking for a way out of this park as I do not like this rides in this park. I am afraid to be alone, yet what could someone else do but be afraid with me. I am afraid to go for a walk outside alone like the weather would really let me get far. I am afraid to take a shower, and on and on. I am furious with myself that I am back to square one. I am told this is normal because it mean not being able to be in control of myself and being afraid of the own when it will strike again.

In the mean time when the anxiety gets so overpowering I think I will crack up I gaze at pictures of my little granddaughter and ease my mind by think about her development she trust that completely that everyday she will learn something new. I am not sure this makes sense to anyone. But when she was born she was helpless and needed someone for everything and now at 15 months olds she is running and talking and playing. She falls but she gets right back up and tries again. She starts trying to say a word and your not quiet sure what it is she wants but before long that word just pops out.

I am not the most religious person in the world but I do have faith and you have all helped me to know that I will fall but with faith and friends I will get up and go on. So according to me Bridgett you are just fine and doing great.

Love

Sharon in Ohio

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>I got lightheaded and nearly passed out first. That's never happened

>before, so I suspect this was my first truly 'appropriate' shock.

>

> Bridget

Do you remember the DR. testing the ICD in the hospital after

placement surgery. He said (paraphrasing) " I'm going to speed up your

heart and you'll get lighted and pass out. Then the ICD will apply the

therapy and slow down your heart "

Al least I HOPE your Doctor told you what was going to happen.

When he raised your heart beat above 250 bpm (I believe), the heart

could no longer pump blood (it was fibrillating), therefore you got

lightheaded. Your brain lacked fresh oxygen filled blood.

So, for you, when you feel lightheaded, it might be a good idea to sit

down, lie down, or pull the car to the side of the road. And maybe

cough too.

Hope this wasn't too much.

Stu

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Bridget, Stu who I think at one time spoke with me and even tinkered with joining my chat site, Shock Talk is partially right in so far as feeling a little lightheadedness prior to going into v-fib, as the heart is racing so fast that it no longer is able to pump sufficient blood out of the left ventricle cutting off the flow of blood to the brain. A compassionate EP will put you in a number of rhythms while you're in the OR and test

you any number of times in order to establish the appropriate settings for your ICD. You are still unconscious during this testing, as you will receive a number of shock therapies during this process. This is a "heads up" signal to you to sit down pull off the road and wait to see what happens. In your case if you felt lightheaded and didn't lose consciousness you may have been near but was actually paced out of your rhythm. Had you been conscious and received a shock therapy trust me you would have felt it. It will wake you out of an extremely sound sleep as well. I would suggest that both you and Stu speak with your respective EP's to find out what your settings are as they will vary from patient to patient. Griff

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>I got lightheaded and nearly passed out first. That's never happened>before, so I suspect this was my first truly 'appropriate' shock.> > BridgetDo you remember the DR. testing the ICD in the hospital afterplacement surgery. He said (paraphrasing) "I'm going to speed up yourheart and you'll get lighted and pass out. Then the ICD will apply thetherapy and slow down your heart"Al least I HOPE your Doctor told you what was going to happen.When he raised your heart beat above 250 bpm (I believe), the heartcould no longer pump blood (it was fibrillating), therefore you gotlightheaded. Your brain lacked fresh oxygen filled blood. So, for you, when you feel lightheaded, it might be a good idea to sitdown, lie down, or pull the car to the side of the road. And maybecough too. Hope this wasn't too much.StuPlease visit the Zapper homepage athttp://www.ZapLife.org

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Stu, Griff, Sharon,

Thanks for all of your thoughts and advice. I'm going to answer all

three in one e-mail.

Sharon, Thank you, it's nice to hear that this is a relatively normal

emotional response. It just seemed frustrating because I thought I

had come to terms with it.

Stu, I was so doped up on Versed that I don't remember a whole lot

about theprocedure. Just bits and pieces, but nothing about getting

zaps in the lab. Although I did have a couple of nice paddle burns

whenit was over. Didn't ask and really don't really want to know how

they got there.

Griff, I am set to zap at 155, which I can easily do. I tend to go

into arrhythmia around there but I know until this last one, all the

shocks were just for rapid heart rate. I really believe this last

one was the first " appropriate " shock and that may be why it has

affected me so strongly.

Bridget

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My dd gets crazy bipolar like symptoms when she eats tomatoes, pistachios and

oranges. When on a really clean diet she looks almost normal. Could these foods

be making her look mentally ill, or is she mentally ill and these foods are just

making her worse. I am wondering if she were on one of these psych. drugs, if

she would be much better, and I wonder if the food reactions would stop. Need

opinions!

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Have you considered NAET (allergy elimination treatments) www.naet.com to see

if they would make a difference?

S S

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My dd gets crazy bipolar like symptoms when she eats tomatoes, pistachios and

oranges. When on a really clean diet she looks almost normal. Could these foods

be making her look mentally ill, or is she mentally ill and these foods are just

making her worse. I am wondering if she were on one of these psych. drugs, if

she would be much better, and I wonder if the food reactions would stop. Need

opinions!

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I tried it once before, but didn't give it a good chance. That's a

good idea. I think I will look into that again. Thanks!

On Apr 1, 2009, at 9:31 PM, Shepard Salzer wrote:

> Have you considered NAET (allergy elimination treatments)

> www.naet.com to see if they would make a difference?

> S S

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> Mental

> Posted by: " thinkingheads@... "

> thinkingheads@... kdjfkjfadfkja

> Wed Apr 1, 2009 1:29 pm (PDT)

>

> My dd gets crazy bipolar like symptoms when she eats tomatoes,

> pistachios and oranges. When on a really clean diet she looks

> almost normal. Could these foods be making her look mentally ill,

> or is she mentally ill and these foods are just making her worse. I

> am wondering if she were on one of these psych. drugs, if she would

> be much better, and I wonder if the food reactions would stop. Need

> opinions!

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