Guest guest Posted August 31, 2004 Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 The Integra. Its considered the cadillac of o2 concentrators and it has a high enough flow rate to handle the backflow pressure of the mild chambers. > Question for the group; which oxygen concentrator is the best for use with a portable hyperbaric oxygen chamber? > > > Dr. Eliezer Ben-ph > www.naturalsolutionsradio.com (Listen live Saturday am) > > Watch your thoughts, they become your words. > Watch your words, they become your actions. > Watch your actions, they become your habits. > Watch your habits, they become your character. > Watch your character, it becomes your destiny. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2004 Report Share Posted September 2, 2004 Thank you Dr. B and Jill for the quick response to my question about oxygen concentrators, I truly appreciate it. Dr. Eliezer Ben-ph www.naturalsolutionsradio.com (Listen live Saturday am) Watch your thoughts, they become your words. Watch your words, they become your actions. Watch your actions, they become your habits. Watch your habits, they become your character. Watch your character, it becomes your destiny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2004 Report Share Posted October 15, 2004 Dear Jill, The oxygen concentrator is $850 plus shipping by FedEx ground. To your location, that is probably $20. It goes from .05 liters/minute to .5 liters/minute. (which is 1/20 to 1/2 l/m). Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman --------------------------------------------------------------------------------\ ------------ ----Original Message Follows---- From: " jill1313 " <jill1313@...> Reply-oxyplus oxyplus Subject: Re: Liquid needel-light signal detox soaks (Was: what comes after the rashing? -) Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 18:08:17 -0000 Saul, how much is your oxygen concentrator? What flow rates does it go from and to? Thx...Jill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2004 Report Share Posted October 15, 2004 Thanx. I know you told me once before but I couldn't remember. I am finding it a big hassle to keep trying to run from the bedroom to the livingroom adjusting the Integra in minute increments until that guage that Dennis & you recommended gets down to .5 or to 1/16th. And I have to switch all the tubing set up for my chamber to the ozonator. This may sound like a bad reason to spend more $ but I have found that in life, small stresses can be bigger stresses than one realizes. Ease of use is important. However, that is a big chunk of change . Still, it would then be automatic, I could just flip a few switches and let the sauna heat up and get in. Byron said if I got a used 02 tank, and I am doing 1/16th or 1/2...and not a lot (I still can't take a lot of ozone, I'm kind of like Wanda that way), that it might last and be a good interim measure. I'm thinking of that, as I see on ebay they are relatively reasonable. Hope everybody's doing well. Some people on lymenet have cobbled together their own ozone tent/sauna setups, I don't even think they knew about oxyplus/Saul, and one family seems to be getting much better. > Dear Jill, > > The oxygen concentrator is $850 plus shipping by FedEx ground. > To your location, that is probably $20. > > It goes from .05 liters/minute to .5 liters/minute. > > (which is 1/20 to 1/2 l/m). > > Best of Health! > Dr. Saul Pressman > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------ > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: " jill1313 " <jill1313@y...> > Reply-oxyplus > oxyplus > Subject: Re: Liquid needel-light signal detox soaks (Was: what > comes after the rashing? -) > Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 18:08:17 -0000 > > > Saul, how much is your oxygen concentrator? What flow rates does it > go from and to? Thx...Jill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2004 Report Share Posted October 15, 2004 " adjusting the Integra " Jill, What is an Integra? Dennis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2004 Report Share Posted October 15, 2004 Sorry. My hyperbaric chamber came with the " cadillac " of 02 concentrators, an Integra, that goes up to 10 liters a minute, which is needed to combat the backpressure of the chamber... But its a hassle to use it with the sauna or insufflation, because the Integra's knob turns, and goes from 1 liter to 10 liters. It's not meant to be so finely tuned down to 1/16th (and I can't get it down to 1/32nd)...that gizmo you guys recommend allows me to do it but I keep having to go back and forth, adjust, check, adjust check etc. I tried marking the concentrator knob but it doesn't work. I notice that these hassles stop me from doing ozone as much as I'd like to and that seems silly, so it looks like one way or another I have to spend a little $ at this point, which is no problem. I'm thinking if I get a tank that might be a good idea but I have no idea how to research where I can fill it up. So I'll figure this out next week. > " adjusting the Integra " > > Jill, > > What is an Integra? > > Dennis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2004 Report Share Posted October 15, 2004 Jill, One solution for you is an Invacare " Precise Rx Pediatric Flowmeter " which is designed to throttle a high output oxygen concentrator down to calibrated levels from 1/16 - 3/4 LPM flow rate. I have one that I use and it works quite well. Dennis Re: Oxygen concentrator > > > Sorry. My hyperbaric chamber came with the " cadillac " of 02 > concentrators, an Integra, that goes up to 10 liters a minute, which > is needed to combat the backpressure of the chamber... > > But its a hassle to use it with the sauna or insufflation, because > the Integra's knob turns, and goes from 1 liter to 10 liters. It's > not meant to be so finely tuned down to 1/16th (and I can't get it > down to 1/32nd)...that gizmo you guys recommend allows me to do it > but I keep having to go back and forth, adjust, check, adjust check > etc. I tried marking the concentrator knob but it doesn't work. I > notice that these hassles stop me from doing ozone as much as I'd > like to and that seems silly, so it looks like one way or another I > have to spend a little $ at this point, which is no problem. I'm > thinking if I get a tank that might be a good idea but I have no idea > how to research where I can fill it up. So I'll figure this out next > week. > > > > " adjusting the Integra " > > > > Jill, > > > > What is an Integra? > > > > Dennis > > > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2004 Report Share Posted October 15, 2004 Hi Dennis, this is an interesting idea. I googled it: http://www.invacare.com/cgi- bin/imhqprd/inv_catalog/prod_cat_detail.jsp?s=0 & oidOfCategory=- 1610621144 & oidOfProduct=536927151 & prodID=IRCPF16 Is that it? It costs $275? Well that would be about the same as a tank plus regulator, but easier/cheaper longterm. Will it work with any o2 concentrator, such as my Integra? Could I then just put the Integra flow at " 1 " and easily adjust the invacare, just once, without having to go back and forth all the time? The one that I am using is a passive flowmeter that does give me a measurement. But I keep my 02 concentrator in the bedroom partly for space reasons and also to protect it from the ozone (the compressor etc...might be some rubber in there) > > > " adjusting the Integra " > > > > > > Jill, > > > > > > What is an Integra? > > > > > > Dennis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and > other alternative self-help subjects. > > > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here > are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing > information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your > own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to > take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to > hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found > here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher > or health care provider. > > > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following > address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of > the message! : > > > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2004 Report Share Posted October 16, 2004 It is Product ID: IRCPF16 Your link didn't work. It requires an input flowrate of 2 LPM. You can download the manual and call them to ask questions. You would set your concentrator to a no load 2 LPM just once, then you would hook up the Invacare and adjust the flow rate on the Invacare to the desired level. P.S. I have both a concentrator and tank setup. I prefer the tank. Dennis Re: Oxygen concentrator > > > Hi Dennis, this is an interesting idea. > > I googled it: > > http://www.invacare.com/cgi- > bin/imhqprd/inv_catalog/prod_cat_detail.jsp?s=0 & oidOfCategory=- > 1610621144 & oidOfProduct=536927151 & prodID=IRCPF16 > > Is that it? It costs $275? Well that would be about the same as a > tank plus regulator, but easier/cheaper longterm. Will it work with > any o2 concentrator, such as my Integra? Could I then just put the > Integra flow at " 1 " and easily adjust the invacare, just once, > without having to go back and forth all the time? The one that I am > using is a passive flowmeter that does give me a measurement. But I > keep my 02 concentrator in the bedroom partly for space reasons and > also to protect it from the ozone (the compressor etc...might be some > rubber in there) > > > > > > " adjusting the Integra " > > > > > > > > Jill, > > > > > > > > What is an Integra? > > > > > > > > Dennis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative > therapies, and > > other alternative self-help subjects. > > > > > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > > > > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will > find here > > are for information and research purposes only. We are people > sharing > > information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do > so at your > > own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the > ability to > > take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you > agree to > > hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas > found > > here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a > researcher > > or health care provider. > > > > > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the > following > > address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > > > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or > BODY of > > the message! : > > > > > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > > > > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to > normal mode. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2004 Report Share Posted October 16, 2004 Dennis, thanx, Your technical help has all along been a great benefit to me. What kind of tank do you have? IE how large? What was the cost of the tank and regulator? I was thinking about it this morning and think the tank is the better idea for me IF there is a place relatively easy for me to get to, to refill the tank from time to time. I don't know if that is indeed possible. Byron tells me many companies that rent tanks and refill them will not fill a tank unless you are renting...etc...so if its not easy to refill, this might be a better idea. thx again > > > > > " adjusting the Integra " > > > > > > > > > > Jill, > > > > > > > > > > What is an Integra? > > > > > > > > > > Dennis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative > > therapies, and > > > other alternative self-help subjects. > > > > > > > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > > > > > > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will > > find here > > > are for information and research purposes only. We are people > > sharing > > > information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do > > so at your > > > own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the > > ability to > > > take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you > > agree to > > > hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas > > found > > > here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a > > researcher > > > or health care provider. > > > > > > > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the > > following > > > address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > > > > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or > > BODY of > > > the message! : > > > > > > > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > > > > > > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to > > normal mode. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2004 Report Share Posted October 16, 2004 P.S. Yes that's the product I was looking at it seems to be $275. I think I'll research the tank...it seems to me I'd still have to be changing tubes and lines from chamber to sauna frequently. Any info on tanks you have is appreciated, I found a source that seems inexpensive but who knows! > > > > > " adjusting the Integra " > > > > > > > > > > Jill, > > > > > > > > > > What is an Integra? > > > > > > > > > > Dennis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative > > therapies, and > > > other alternative self-help subjects. > > > > > > > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > > > > > > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will > > find here > > > are for information and research purposes only. We are people > > sharing > > > information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do > > so at your > > > own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the > > ability to > > > take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you > > agree to > > > hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas > > found > > > here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a > > researcher > > > or health care provider. > > > > > > > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the > > following > > > address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > > > > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or > > BODY of > > > the message! : > > > > > > > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > > > > > > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to > > normal mode. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2004 Report Share Posted October 16, 2004 Jill, I have a 60 cf (1699 liter) tank which cost me $129.00. It is a steel " welding type " tank 27 " high x 7 " diameter. 60 CF it the largest size that can be easily handled. 60 CF = 113 1/2 hr saunas. I got a welding type tank with a CGA 540 fitting. With a welding type tank, I felt that there would be no questions about filling it at any welding supply shop. I found a shop that will fill it on the spot with no waiting who by the way has many ozone customers. Yes, I bought the tank from him. I have Saul's regulator, ask him for the price. Dennis Re: Oxygen concentrator > > > Dennis, thanx, Your technical help has all along been a great benefit > to me. > > What kind of tank do you have? IE how large? What was the cost of the > tank and regulator? I was thinking about it this morning and think > the tank is the better idea for me IF there is a place relatively > easy for me to get to, to refill the tank from time to time. I don't > know if that is indeed possible. Byron tells me many companies that > rent tanks and refill them will not fill a tank unless you are > renting...etc...so if its not easy to refill, this might be a better > idea. thx again > > > > > > > > > > " adjusting the Integra " > > > > > > > > > > > > Jill, > > > > > > > > > > > > What is an Integra? > > > > > > > > > > > > Dennis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative > > > therapies, and > > > > other alternative self-help subjects. > > > > > > > > > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > > > > > > > > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will > > > find here > > > > are for information and research purposes only. We are people > > > sharing > > > > information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you > do > > > so at your > > > > own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and > the > > > ability to > > > > take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list > you > > > agree to > > > > hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any > ideas > > > found > > > > here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a > > > researcher > > > > or health care provider. > > > > > > > > > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the > > > following > > > > address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > > > > > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE > or > > > BODY of > > > > the message! : > > > > > > > > > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > > > > > > > > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to > > > normal mode. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2005 Report Share Posted October 16, 2005 I think that the humidifier is for breathing oxygen and not needed for ozone production. Dennis oxygen concentrator > My funds are somewhat limited and am looking at oxygen concentrators > for sale on EBay.There is some talk about hooking up a humidifyer > to some of the oxygen concentrators.Can anyone comment on why you > possibly need a humidifyer in conjunction with an oxygen concentrator? > Woold you still need a humidifyer if the concentrator was used > strickly for generating ozone? > Thank you for any responses that may be available. > Regards > Guy > > > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and > other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here > are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing > information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at > your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the > ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list > you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any > ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are > a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following > address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of > the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2005 Report Share Posted October 16, 2005 Thank Dennis,now I know a little more about ozone production. Regards Guy -- In oxyplus , " Dennis Lipter " <black54@v...> wrote: > > I think that the humidifier is for breathing oxygen and not needed for ozone > production. > > Dennis > > > oxygen concentrator > > > > My funds are somewhat limited and am looking at oxygen concentrators > > for sale on EBay.There is some talk about hooking up a humidifyer > > to some of the oxygen concentrators.Can anyone comment on why you > > possibly need a humidifyer in conjunction with an oxygen concentrator? > > Woold you still need a humidifyer if the concentrator was used > > strickly for generating ozone? > > Thank you for any responses that may be available. > > Regards > > Guy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and > > other alternative self-help subjects. > > > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here > > are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing > > information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at > > your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the > > ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list > > you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any > > ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are > > a researcher or health care provider. > > > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following > > address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of > > the message! : > > > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2005 Report Share Posted October 16, 2005 Re: oxygen concentrator >I think that the humidifier is for breathing oxygen and not needed for >ozone > production. > > Dennis Dennis, Humidity is definitely something you don't want for ozone production -- you'll get toxic contaminants! This was told to me by a manufacturer of equipment (not Saul). Best, Nenah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2005 Report Share Posted October 17, 2005 Thanks Ninah,Dennis.I have purchased a small air dryer to install between the oxygen supply and the ozonator to take out any humidity that might exist. This is a very informative group.I am doing this the poor man's way for now but I wnat to do it right.Will upgrade when I can. Regards Guy > > > Re: oxygen concentrator > > > >I think that the humidifier is for breathing oxygen and not needed for > >ozone > > production. > > > > Dennis > > > Dennis, > Humidity is definitely something you don't want for ozone production -- > you'll get toxic contaminants! This was told to me by a manufacturer of > equipment (not Saul). > > Best, > Nenah > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 I believe you need the added pressure of a chamber to even see some results.  From: yi li <y_li34@...> Subject: [ ] oxygen concentrator chelatingkids2 , Date: Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 2:19 PM  Hi, All   I am wondering if anyone have good result just using oxygen concentrator without  chamber?   Thanks,   --- Yi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 We are going to try it soon. Andy has said recently that just breathing a larger concentration of Oxygen would be similar to a chamber, especially mBOT. It's not as good as a hard chamber, 1.5 ATA, breathing 100% oxygen, but it's a ton cheaper. I found a concentrator on Craigslist for $300. The cheapest chamber time I found here in Seattle was $120 an hour. Normal room air is about 20% oxygen, so if you are breathing 90-95% oxygen from a concentrator that is more than 4 times the amount. You need to be careful about oxygen toxicity due to prolonged periods breathing close to pure oxygen. I believe an hour session twice a day, seperated by at least 4 hours is the maximum. TJ ________________________________ From: rosalie bernardo <sally2693@...> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 2:31:08 PM Subject: Re: [ ] oxygen concentrator I believe you need the added pressure of a chamber to even see some results.  From: yi li <y_li34 (DOT) com> Subject: [ ] oxygen concentrator chelatingkids2, Date: Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 2:19 PM  Hi, All   I am wondering if anyone have good result just using oxygen concentrator without  chamber?   Thanks,   --- Yi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 A few years ago, my son did breathing oxygen at home. It was Andy's suggestion. We did NOT buy a concentrator but instead our dr wrote an rx that was filled by our children's hospital. Our insurance paid for everything. The hospital delivered and set up as well as taught us what to do. We always had 2 huge tanks of liquid oxygen in the house, which is a bit concerning. In spite of all the effort, my son did not benefit. We saw nothing. He also did not benefit from 1.5 ATA HBOT. > > From: yi li <y_li34 (DOT) com> > Subject: [ ] oxygen concentrator > chelatingkids2, > Date: Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 2:19 PM > > Â Hi, All > Â > Â I am wondering if anyone have good result just using oxygen concentrator without > Â chamber? > Â > Â Thanks, > Â > Â --- Yi > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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