Dopamine

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the comments, Jim. It would be interesting to see how many

drug abusers end up with Parkinson's later in life. My dad had

Parkinson's disease--he may have developed it after taking Valium. He

tended to have angina, so maybe the Valium was for that.

I once read a BB posting about dopamine, chocolate, and acetaldehyde

from candida. There was kind of a chain thing going on there. J.

[Guest guest]

7-7-2000, jackson wrote:

>

> It would be interesting to see how many drug abusers

> end up with Parkinson's later in life.

Actually " most " drug abuse -prevents- Parkinson's -- if :

1) you agree that " most " drug abuse is the smoking of tobacco,

2) if you agree not to count alcohol and sugar consumption

as drug abuse, and

3) if illegal drug use is in fact not more prevalent than

tobacco smoking.

Tobacco smokers -- who are addicted to the spurt of dopamine

released by inhaling tobacco smoke -- actually have a -lower-

rate of Parkinson's, according to recent medical research...

Someday we'll see if today's Ritalin users have a lower, or

a higher, rate of Parkinson's Disease in later life.

Bill

..

[Guest guest]

Has anyone read the article by a female MD regarding valium? She claims that

valium stimulates tumor growth. She stated that doctors would prescribe valium

to mellow out women who had been scheduled for biopsies of suspicious lumps in

their breast. By the time the biopsy was performed they had indeed developed

full blown tumors. I was shocked not by the allegation, but because the author

was a practicing MD (and by no means a radical one).

jd

p.s. I am curious why the following message was addressed to all " druggies " ...

are you implying only " druggies " would enjoy the benefits of fava beans? I

would think a better title would be: To all those interested in Life

Extension.... in fact as i recall, Durk Pearson and Sandy Shaw wrote about

" velvet beans " in their Life Extension book in the 80s. Those associated with

the health food industry will recognize many of Pearson and Shaw's formulas were

promoted by TwinLab. Although I saw Silence of the Lambs... i never picked up

on the fava bean connection.... perhaps i was thinking of " velvet beans " . Are

you maligning the benefits of this bean? I know that Pearson and Shaw are

hardly conventional, but fava beans are considered extremely healthy by those I

have corresponded. It seems to me that the person who developed Enada

NADH...wasn't his father associated with a Parkinson's treatment? I also

believe that L-Dopa is stilled used for Parkinsons... but with another drug to

lessen the adversity and increase the duration of benefit. I know that the herb

Macuna is a potent source of L-Dopa... and is used by body builders and life

extensionists (GH release) and also an ingredient in some sexual performance

revitalizers.

jd

Re: Dopamine

To all " druggies "

1. Fava beans contain l-dopa, a precursor to dopamine. This has been used

unsucessfully as treatment for Parkinsons. The fame of these beans was

elevated in the movie " Silence of the Lambs " - the killer ate fava beans.

2. Selegiline HCL (deprenyl) is a selective inhibitor of MAO-B and acts

predominately in the glial cells of the brain. It also protects the

dopamine-producing neurons in the brain (substantia Nigra)hence it's use as

an anti-aging substance. Discovery Experimental of Florida has isolated this

from the ephedra plant, however, the FDA is reportedly trying to steal their

formula - Liquid Deprenyl Citrate. It is supposed to be much better than the

FDA-approved versions, some of which are laced with methamphetamine due to

mfg. contamination. Selegiline also prevents the breakdown of PEA

(Phenylethylamine), one of the feel good chemicals in chocolate. PEA

deficiency is often related to CNS depression as is low dopamine. PEA can be

produced from d-phenylalanine, which is why DLPA & deprenyl is sucessfully

used to alleviate this condition. Chocolate also contains cannabinoid

compounds similar to THC found in marijuana. IMHO, it is the sugar and fat

in " Chocolate " that are the bad guys. Try a chocolate designer protein shake

sometime, the new version is sweetened with stevia.

|Thanks for the comments, Jim. It would be interesting to see how many

|drug abusers end up with Parkinson's later in life. My dad had

|Parkinson's disease--he may have developed it after taking Valium. He

|tended to have angina, so maybe the Valium was for that.

|

|I once read a BB posting about dopamine, chocolate, and acetaldehyde

|from candida. There was kind of a chain thing going on there. J.

|

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To all " druggies "

1. Fava beans contain l-dopa, a precursor to dopamine. This has been used

unsucessfully as treatment for Parkinsons. The fame of these beans was

elevated in the movie " Silence of the Lambs " - the killer ate fava beans.

2. Selegiline HCL (deprenyl) is a selective inhibitor of MAO-B and acts

predominately in the glial cells of the brain. It also protects the

dopamine-producing neurons in the brain (substantia Nigra)hence it's use as

an anti-aging substance. Discovery Experimental of Florida has isolated this

from the ephedra plant, however, the FDA is reportedly trying to steal their

formula - Liquid Deprenyl Citrate. It is supposed to be much better than the

FDA-approved versions, some of which are laced with methamphetamine due to

mfg. contamination. Selegiline also prevents the breakdown of PEA

(Phenylethylamine), one of the feel good chemicals in chocolate. PEA

deficiency is often related to CNS depression as is low dopamine. PEA can be

produced from d-phenylalanine, which is why DLPA & deprenyl is sucessfully

used to alleviate this condition. Chocolate also contains cannabinoid

compounds similar to THC found in marijuana. IMHO, it is the sugar and fat

in " Chocolate " that are the bad guys. Try a chocolate designer protein shake

sometime, the new version is sweetened with stevia.

|Thanks for the comments, Jim. It would be interesting to see how many

|drug abusers end up with Parkinson's later in life. My dad had

|Parkinson's disease--he may have developed it after taking Valium. He

|tended to have angina, so maybe the Valium was for that.

|

|I once read a BB posting about dopamine, chocolate, and acetaldehyde

|from candida. There was kind of a chain thing going on there. J.

|

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|p.s. I am curious why the following message was addressed to all

" druggies " ... are you implying only " druggies " would enjoy the benefits of

fava beans?

> No, they can also be enjoyed by serial killers. This was a joke, Dr.

JD!!!!

I'm not maligning fava beans, I eat them too occaisionally. However, the

studies I've read on l-dopa vs parkinsons are that it's effect is only

short-lived. There are many studies on life extension's www.lef.org that are

pretty good re: this and many other life extension topics. Deprenyl has also

been used for this. NADH also raises production of dopamaine and serotonin

so it may be useful in " Parkinson's " .

I have seen much evidence that mercury and other heavy metal toxicities are

implicated in this and other allopathically-labelled conditions such as

Alzheimers, ALS, MS, Lupus, ADD, Depression, etc. Obviously hypnoxia is also

a major factor.

The reason IMHO that " They " can't pinpoint the cause, is that the causes are

of multiple origin. Eventually we will define these conditions by the true

causes when the allopathic paradigm is replaced in not only the physician's

minds but the general public. This will be facilitated by use of diagnostic

tools such as EDS, dark field mic, genetic mapping, EMF analysis, etc. I am

also on a metals list which discusses primarily mercury tox. @

metals@....

The implications of mercury poisoning are staggering. Do you think " they "

will ever acknowledge this. I just had a discussion with my kid's " doctor "

yesterday, who couldn't understand why my kids are getting bellies. This was

after I explained that High-GI foods are the primary cause. How can you get

through med school and practice for 20 years and not understand something so

fundamental?

Peace,

Matt

I would think a better title would be: To all those interested in Life

Extension.... in fact as i recall, Durk Pearson and Sandy Shaw wrote about

" velvet beans " in their Life Extension book in the 80s. Those associated

with the health food industry will recognize many of Pearson and Shaw's

formulas were promoted by TwinLab. Although I saw Silence of the Lambs... i

never picked up on the fava bean connection.... perhaps i was thinking of

" velvet beans " . Are you maligning the benefits of this bean? I know that

Pearson and Shaw are hardly conventional, but fava beans are considered

extremely healthy by those I have corresponded. It seems to me that the

person who developed Enada NADH...wasn't his father associated with a

Parkinson's treatment? I also believe that L-Dopa is stilled used for

Parkinsons... but with another drug to lessen the adversity an

|jd

| Re: Dopamine

|

|

| To all " druggies "

|

| 1. Fava beans contain l-dopa, a precursor to dopamine. This has been

used

| unsucessfully as treatment for Parkinsons. The fame of these beans was

| elevated in the movie " Silence of the Lambs " - the killer ate fava

beans.

|

| 2. Selegiline HCL (deprenyl) is a selective inhibitor of MAO-B and acts

| predominately in the glial cells of the brain. It also protects the

| dopamine-producing neurons in the brain (substantia Nigra)hence it's

use as

| an anti-aging substance. Discovery Experimental of Florida has isolated

this

| from the ephedra plant, however, the FDA is reportedly trying to steal

their

| formula - Liquid Deprenyl Citrate. It is supposed to be much better

than the

| FDA-approved versions, some of which are laced with methamphetamine due

to

| mfg. contamination. Selegiline also prevents the breakdown of PEA

| (Phenylethylamine), one of the feel good chemicals in chocolate. PEA

| deficiency is often related to CNS depression as is low dopamine. PEA

can be

| produced from d-phenylalanine, which is why DLPA & deprenyl is

sucessfully

| used to alleviate this condition. Chocolate also contains cannabinoid

| compounds similar to THC found in marijuana. IMHO, it is the sugar and

fat

| in " Chocolate " that are the bad guys. Try a chocolate designer protein

shake

| sometime, the new version is sweetened with stevia.

|

|

| |Thanks for the comments, Jim. It would be interesting to see how many

| |drug abusers end up with Parkinson's later in life. My dad had

| |Parkinson's disease--he may have developed it after taking Valium. He

| |tended to have angina, so maybe the Valium was for that.

| |

| |I once read a BB posting about dopamine, chocolate, and acetaldehyde

| |from candida. There was kind of a chain thing going on there.

J.

| |

| |

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[Guest guest]

Good point.

It would appear from this that nicotine stimulates the release of dopamine

without burning out the dopamine producing neurons as do some other

stimulants. I have seen some docs use it as an anti-aging drug. This remined

me of the chocolate issue, in the the delivery system, not the indiginous

drugs, are most harmful. I suspect most smokers die rather unpleasantly

prior to the onset of " Parkinsons " . Taking Ritalin alone tend to cause

insomnia, which might be a factor in your Ritalin study.

| Tobacco smokers -- who are addicted to the spurt of dopamine

| released by inhaling tobacco smoke -- actually have a -lower-

| rate of Parkinson's, according to recent medical research...

|

| Someday we'll see if today's Ritalin users have a lower, or

| a higher, rate of Parkinson's Disease in later life.

|

|

| Bill

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[Guest guest]

Maybe someone can send me in the right direction on this.

My sons OATS test just came today. One of the areas I dont

quite understand is where it says he has Dopamine turnover

stimulation. Does anyone know what this is? It also says he

has alot of ammonia and ALA plus Argine can help with this.

We are starting this weekend adding ALA to his DMSA every

three hours.

Thank you

Louise