Guest guest Posted February 26, 2007 Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 > > Hi everyone, > I'm looking for input on the most effective way to use the Beck > protocol. I know it is flexible and I already get the feel that > nothing is set in stone. I'm just wondering the general order to do > things and the biggest mistakes to avoid as well as the actions that > lead to success. Besides using a zapper several years ago this is new > to me. If anyone has worked the Beck system while recovering from > candida your input would be especially valuable since that is my > predicament. I'm working on keeping the friendly bacteria population > at high numbers while reducing numbers of pathogenic bacteria and > fungi. > > Rock > i sujjest you visit this group ---> /join Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2007 Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 > > > > Hi everyone, > > I'm looking for input on the most effective way to use the Beck > > protocol. I know it is flexible and I already get the feel that > > nothing is set in stone. I'm just wondering the general order to do > > things and the biggest mistakes to avoid as well as the actions that > > lead to success. Besides using a zapper several years ago this is new > > to me. If anyone has worked the Beck system while recovering from > > candida your input would be especially valuable since that is my > > predicament. I'm working on keeping the friendly bacteria population > > at high numbers while reducing numbers of pathogenic bacteria and > > fungi. > > > > Rock > > > i sujjest you visit this group ---> > /join > Thanks Fadi, I'll check it out. Rock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2007 Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 Rock, I'm sure you know the usual about staying off sugars including white breads, fruit, etc. Also, taking a good probiotic blend. Primal defense at Garden of Life is a good one. Regarding the Beck protocol, just start slowly even as little as 5-10 minutes daily and gradually work up to 2 hours daily. Drink plenty of water. The biggest mistake most make is to go too fast making the die-off too hard to handle. Only go at the pace your body can handle to where you are not extremely uncomfortable but still making steady progress. Easy does it is best. Take care, Gail -- In , " scorple007 " <rhetcher@...> wrote: > > Hi everyone, > I'm looking for input on the most effective way to use the Beck > protocol. I know it is flexible and I already get the feel that > nothing is set in stone. I'm just wondering the general order to do > things and the biggest mistakes to avoid as well as the actions that > lead to success. Besides using a zapper several years ago this is new > to me. If anyone has worked the Beck system while recovering from > candida your input would be especially valuable since that is my > predicament. I'm working on keeping the friendly bacteria population > at high numbers while reducing numbers of pathogenic bacteria and > fungi. > > Rock > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 Rock, Gail, Like Gastroenterology Journal I question the wisdom of using soil based organisms in large amounts because they are NOT native to the human gut in those amounts. So I contest the notion that an SBO blend is generally " good " . And, I suggest people Google one component of Primal Defense (search: " bacillus licheniformis " cancer ), a pathogen, and found why a lot of health professionals will not use Primal Defense (in addition to it not muscle testing well) Furher, if non-native-to-the-human-gut organisms are present they should be outcompeted, and they are acknowledged to be transient. The job of the probiotics that BELONG there is to outcompete non- native and pathogenic organisms. How about considering a probiotic that is native to the human gut, at a higher dose, like VSL#3, which is 450 BILLION organisms per dose and which is peer-reviewed for Crohn's treatment. Better yet, using naturally-occurring inulin to feed your own probiotic culture, with or without a short program of human- indigenous probiotics at a lower dose than VSL#3? This is the method that is getting fantastic results on the candidiasis group as Rock is aware, with dysbiosis, candida, IBS, and IBD. Duncan On 27 Feb 2007 at 14:36, Beck-blood- electrification Digest Number 1797 wrote: > Re: Ready to roll > Posted by: " wanda85929 " wanda85929@... wanda85929 > Date: Mon Feb 26, 2007 8:40 pm ((PST)) > > Rock, > > I'm sure you know the usual about staying off sugars including white > breads, fruit, etc. Also, taking a good probiotic blend. Primal > defense at Garden of Life is a good one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 -Hi Duncan, I don't have a problem with that. It's more expensive, but if one can afford it, go for it. Interestingly, your comment about it being used for Crohn's disease is also why Jordan S. Rubin, N.M.D., Ph.D. recommends and uses Primal Defense. You made some good points. One certainly doesn't want to give themself cancer while trying to cure candida, which brings me to another point. Did you see the post on BnS about chilli peppers being a component to stomache cancer in New Mexico? Bil made the comment how Dr. Schulze highly recommends cayenne. I always thought it was suppose to be a good thing. Guess it goes to show, moderation it a good rule of thumb. Maybe high dosages of probiotics aren't necessary. Don't know. Another thing is people are always tooting that which they are selling. Now that is not necessarily a bad thing, but it's not always a good thing either. Schulze pushing cayenne, Jordon Primal Defense. One would always be wise to take a closer look at things. But speaking of candida, do you know Garnet? She claims she was at death's door with it and cured herself in a very short time with urine therapy. Most wouldn't think about it unless they were desperate. She made a full recovery according to her testimony. Sure is cheap. lol Gail -- In , Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...> wrote: > > > Like Gastroenterology Journal I question the wisdom of using soil > based organisms in large amounts because they are NOT native to > the human gut in those amounts. So I contest the notion that an > SBO blend is generally " good " . And, I suggest people Google one > component of Primal Defense (search: " bacillus licheniformis " > cancer ), a pathogen, and found why a lot of health professionals > will not use Primal Defense (in addition to it not muscle testing > well) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 > > Hi everyone, > I'm looking for input on the most effective way to use the Beck > protocol. I know it is flexible and I already get the feel that > nothing is set in stone. I'm just wondering the general order to do > things and the biggest mistakes to avoid as well as the actions that > lead to success. Besides using a zapper several years ago this is new > to me. If anyone has worked the Beck system while recovering from > candida your input would be especially valuable since that is my > predicament. I'm working on keeping the friendly bacteria population > at high numbers while reducing numbers of pathogenic bacteria and > fungi. > > Rock > Corey It is flexible but their is some guidelines you must consider. http://www.cancertutor.com/Cancer02/BobBeck.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 V sent me a CD a while back of a Beck lecture AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2007 Report Share Posted March 1, 2007 What do you think of Kumbusha as a Pro-biotic VesterAOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2007 Report Share Posted March 1, 2007 Gail, Duncan, As far as probiotics, I use NOW FOODS GR-8. Before joining the candida group I bought super expensive Dr Ohhira stuff but now I'm relying on prebiotics more. I'll " reseed " with the GR-8 to compensate for any loss of probiotics as per an antibiotic regiman. I'm going to work on starting out slowly but admit that as I wait for my equipment to rrive I've probably paid more attention to those who advocate jumping right in at an hour or more. I'll keep studying the archives and files and then see how my system responds. I definitly have a deep respect for electromedicine and will think of this process more as a marathon than a sprint. Thanks for the input. Rock > > > Re: Ready to roll > > Posted by: " wanda85929 " wanda85929@... wanda85929 > > Date: Mon Feb 26, 2007 8:40 pm ((PST)) > > > > Rock, > > > > I'm sure you know the usual about staying off sugars including white > > breads, fruit, etc. Also, taking a good probiotic blend. Primal > > defense at Garden of Life is a good one. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 Have just ordered my ala for my 4 yr old 40 lb boy. (Anyone find 50 mg or smaller capsules in Edmonton ab? I just ordered online) So I plan to start with 5 mg fri am at 9 dosing every 3 hrs till midnight, then at 4 and 8 then returning to the every 3 hrs until sunday night. Any better plan? You can go to every 4 hus just with ala right? Can my son just swallow the ala in water/juice? So with all the supporting supplements, I just mix the daily stuff up (vit c, zinc, selenium, milk thistle, biotin, and taurine) and have him sip it thrugh the day. Reasonable? We also do a homeopathic candida remedy. I also have the adrenal cortex extract coming as it sounds like it's just what he and I both need and wanted to add it in with the rest. Any reason that wouldn't work? Would appreciate suggestions from those of you who paved the way for us. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Suggestions: You can get 25mg ala from Kirkman, 50mg for Natrol, 60mg from Solgar. Iherb has those two. For future anyway... Your plan sounds fine for dosing, this is what we do. He can take it water or juice. Probably juice is better, because it's a bit sulphury smelling and the juice will disguise that a bit. For the daily supplements, I mixed the morning doses into a little diluted juice (2-3 ounces) and gave him that to drink. Then same with lunch/dinner, bedtime. That way I knew he was getting enough of each vitmain and milk thistle etc 3-4 times a day. I found that if I mixed it all up into one cup and let him work on it through the day, the taste gets worse the longer it sits around. Then he would not finish it. You will need something else for yeast. I have used the homepathic remedy for yeast on everyone in this house....and it's was not enough in our case. So keep an eye on this. If you get side effects with the round....then he's going to need probiotics and an antifungal. The adrenal cortex is fine. Give it in the morning. After a week or so if you see the good effects of it wearing off by afternoon, then it's time to add a lunchtime dose of adrenal cortex. Don't give it after 4pm because it usually keeps you awake really late. -- In , " kristinabradsmom " <kdrapeau@...> wrote: > > Have just ordered my ala for my 4 yr old 40 lb boy. (Anyone find 50 mg or smaller capsules in Edmonton ab? I just ordered online) > > So I plan to start with 5 mg fri am at 9 dosing every 3 hrs till midnight, then at 4 and 8 then returning to the every 3 hrs until sunday night. Any better plan? You can go to every 4 hus just with ala right? > > Can my son just swallow the ala in water/juice? > > So with all the supporting supplements, I just mix the daily stuff up (vit c, zinc, selenium, milk thistle, biotin, and taurine) and have him sip it thrugh the day. Reasonable? > > We also do a homeopathic candida remedy. > > I also have the adrenal cortex extract coming as it sounds like it's just what he and I both need and wanted to add it in with the rest. Any reason that wouldn't work? > > Would appreciate suggestions from those of you who paved the way for us. > > Thanks! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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