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Hey Dick, was wondering what ratio your wife used with the DMSO and CS?

I know my great toe nails aren't even attached to the nail bed except

for the first 1/8-1/4 " it takes some careful doing (doens't look so

pretty) but I can remove much of it.

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I mix DMSO with peroxide 50/50, and also with CS and iodine. All in different

bottles. I don't really think the iodine is necessary to mix, because it absorbs

naturally if you need it. If not the stain just sits there until it wears or

washes off. As you probably know the DMSO just takes the other items through the

skin and into the system faster.

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Hey Dick, was wondering what ratio your wife used with the DMSO and CS?

I know my great toe nails aren't even attached to the nail bed except

for the first 1/8-1/4 " it takes some careful doing (doens't look so

pretty) but I can remove much of it.

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I think that after the nails were removed would have been a good time to apply

the CS. Adding DMSO would send it deeper, I believe.

Dick

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I've never tried it but I have wondered if ..........applying CS

w/dmso would be effective against toe nail fungus. I went to the

extent of having my two great toe nails removed completely w' the nail

bed scraped. Now that was painful! But the podiatrist had said at the

time he did it that if he didn't get every thing it would come back

with a vengeance and it did.

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How did you discover this?

Dick

Toenail fungus

Put a small amount of fresh urine on it in the morning and let it dry.

Knocked my husband's out in 4 days. You are right, keeping the foot dry and

aired is important, as well.

Nikki

takes forever, daily use or twice daily. not good idea. use the

stuff at the store, clotrimatron, or whatever the heck it's called

apply and use with electricity might be good...electricity does work

it's just painfully slow and you'll get sick and tired of it. The

fungus can grow back easily. using the cream and also a wrist

electrifier see photos, makes some sense as it's in the blood as well

as under your nails. And wash feet, wear shoes that can keep toe area

dry. Pain in the butt, I'm almost rid of it, but the cream was my

magic plus better hygeine and the use on wrist.

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that's a great idea. but you still have to attack the fungus in the rest of

the body. failure to do that is why it comes back after the podiatrist puts

people through hell removing nails and then applying poisonous anti-fungals

topically.

cs in something watery dries out quick, but in something oily it's around

longer to soak in.

try a combo of ingesting a lot of CS regularly and applying it topically in

something oily...the tea tree oil with no CS is working for me fine, but it

would probably be great to add CS to it. i rub it in all over the nail &

under the edge and soak the pad on a band-aid with it. if using watery

CS/DMSO then maybe make a reservoir with some extra gauze pad and tape it up

so it won't move or dry out.

DMSO carries stuff into the body real well, & it will carry things you might

not want inside too, so there's something to be careful with...laundry

product residue, fabric dyes, whatever.

i just bought some concentrated tetrasilver tetroxide (Ag4O4) which is the

active ingredient in Tetrasil ointment (highly effective stuff for many skin

problems and more). i bet Tetrasil would kill it real dead quick, & is of a

form that can be smeared on thick & covered up. the silver-tet is a more

badass form of silver with an oxygen punch that's a proven safe & effective

bug-killer for human contact all over the body...like CS is claimed to be

but unproven. it's used as a chlorine alternative for hot-tubs, spas,

pools. there's been some reports of IV injection curing HIV with one shot,

no sides, zap - you're done next pleeze. other studies haven't worked out

but the dosage/applications were different & experimental. there's stuff on

the web about it being a fraud & ripoff, but of course that's gonna happen

too. i know a guy who dilutes it to 10ppm solution and ingests for hep-C.

he's already clear a couple years from conventional drug tx, but intends to

stay that way and kill every last hiding possibly dormant chunk of dragon.

it's easier to dilute into a couple gallons at a time than brewing CS over &

over.

the silver-tet ingested in scary high experimental dosage combined with the

microcurrent used on the blood & liver area along with a whole slew of

herbs/supplements/cleansing/lifestyle changes for a year or so is my plan to

cure hep-C for myself. maybe a couple years if it's trouble free & get good

results. there's time while waiting for big med to come up with something

better.

meanwhile, at this time, the toenails a pretty again. the last ugly one has

turned completely white everywhere the tea tree oil has soaked in from the

end, so there's a thin dividing line of discoloration where it hasn't quite

reached the new growth yet.

anti-fungal drugs both OTC & Rx are too hard on the body, esp for one

concerned with liver protection or a compromised immune system.

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> I've never tried it but I have wondered if ..........applying CS

> w/dmso would be effective against toe nail fungus. I went to the

> extent of having my two great toe nails removed completely w' the nail

> bed scraped. Now that was painful! But the podiatrist had said at the

> time he did it that if he didn't get every thing it would come back

> with a vengeance and it did.

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hi dr. alex,

so what do you think of this idea: i'm speculating that the fungus likes

dark, damp, not well ventilated, but still needs air. the effect of the

vicks & tea tree oil both might have in large part to do with smothering it?

the rest being a chemical attack.

my results with the ingested CS getting rid of it on all the rest of the

toes except the end of the worst big one would likely indicate the tissue

beds under the nails, maybe the composition of the new growth nails

themselves must have silver in them that is incompatible with the fungus,

and probably that the fungus is spread through the body & must be eliminated

completely to prevent it from coming back.

once gone, keeping the feet clean, ventilated, dry is important to

preventing re-invasion.

please critique!?!?!?

cheers,

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>

> To ALL people suffering toe nail fungus...

> I was really disappointed with my " treatments " for this,,, I wasn't

> able to use the Clotrimazol, Lamisyl or any agresive " medicine " for

> this problem. I started to look at the Internet for " alternatives " and

> got 2 of this treatments on me... I must confess that I am an M.D.

> using several kind of electrotherapeutic machines that leaves a lot to

> desire mostly with cancer. With AIDS no problem, HIV no problem, all

> infected people are free of this diseases, but using electricity or

> waves (frequencies) for the treatment of a fungus is another

> history... until I tried................. VICK'S. YES the medicine for

> the flu and symptoms of the cold... after taking a shower, apply it on

> and all the surface of the toenail, after just 2 weeks of use your

> nail will start to look different... clear, growing and starts to

> look healed... cut it accordingly. After 6 months of use of this

> Vick's vaporub, I have a healthy toenail, and my liver and pockets are

> healthy. Try it... it really works! You must apply Vick's at least

> twice a day. and must be a continuous use.Photos of the evolution of

> this cure at your request.

> M.D.

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> > > Anybody know the specifics on curing toenail fungus?

> > > The voltage? One toe ata a time? - etc.

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My daughter tried it, it did not work for her.

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my daughter tried that also, no luck.

It's remarkable that the fungus that started me doing this whole thing

6 years ago still has not been solved, yet everything else under the

sun has, or is about to be!

bG

>

> Heard somewhere tht plain ole vinegar is the best thing for toenail

> fungus. Wet some gauze, put it on the nail and whole toe, then cover

with

> plastic and tape it well to keep it wet with the vinegar. Takes time

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> hi dr. alex,

> so what do you think of this idea: i'm speculating that the fungus

likes

> dark, damp, not well ventilated, but still needs air. the effect

of the

> vicks & tea tree oil both might have in large part to do with

smothering it?

> the rest being a chemical attack.

> my results with the ingested CS getting rid of it on all the rest

of the

> toes except the end of the worst big one would likely indicate the

tissue

> beds under the nails, maybe the composition of the new growth nails

> themselves must have silver in them that is incompatible with the

fungus,

> and probably that the fungus is spread through the body & must be

eliminated

> completely to prevent it from coming back.

> once gone, keeping the feet clean, ventilated, dry is important to

> preventing re-invasion.

> please critique!?!?!?

>

> cheers,

> bobL

>

When you have a live blood analysis run using dark field

microscopy - you can see fungus cells getting captured by

white cells - looks like a bag of marbles [ingested

bacteria] trying to swallow a fungus that's half it's

size. The fungii are pretty toxic to white cells & the

3rd or 4th fungus is usually fatal to that cell. You can

see them stuck to the cell wall - looks like a white spot

with an opaque center & gradually fading to no image about

1/2 way to the cell edge.

The fix is to restore your pH to about 7.2 so fungus

growth in the blood stops. Inherent is anaerobic

metabolism, too much glucose, ordinarily overweight, too much

insulin, ... .

Joe.

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Dear Bob,

I tried: Nizoral, (short time due to the risk of secundary rections)

Colloidal Silver 3200 ppm (I got a very nice Argyria due to the deposit of

silver at the base of the nails (Ungueal zone) used tea tree oil, removal by

myself (I performed this in my own nails) of the nail, and THE FUNGUS CAME

AGAIN! One day I was thinking " Must be another way to treat this, since

almost all the treatments are not working) Made a search at the Net and

found several ways of non proven ways to treat those toenails... I opted

for:

Use of Listerine plus vinegar 50/50 as a soak after the shower, let it dry

and then used the Vicks on the sorrounding tissue and on the nail, enough

quantity to keep on this premises after putting my socks. Before going to

bed same treatment... AND AFTER just one week I saw the nail to start to

grow with a normal color. I took a picture every month and those are for

your view, just ask.

I think that must be used the vinegar, in order to change the Ph to acid,

and the fungus will not thrive easily.

Definitelly the clean and dry part are the way to avoid the recurse of this.

Using Desenex talc in the shoes is another preventive way. I use and do all

of this and is the first time I have a decent toenail.

On 12/31/06, bob Larson <bobLists@...> wrote:

>

> hi dr. alex,

> so what do you think of this idea: i'm speculating that the fungus likes

> dark, damp, not well ventilated, but still needs air. the effect of the

> vicks & tea tree oil both might have in large part to do with smothering

> it?

> the rest being a chemical attack.

> my results with the ingested CS getting rid of it on all the rest of the

> toes except the end of the worst big one would likely indicate the tissue

> beds under the nails, maybe the composition of the new growth nails

> themselves must have silver in them that is incompatible with the fungus,

> and probably that the fungus is spread through the body & must be

> eliminated

> completely to prevent it from coming back.

> once gone, keeping the feet clean, ventilated, dry is important to

> preventing re-invasion.

> please critique!?!?!?

>

> cheers,

> bobL

>

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> >

> >

> > To ALL people suffering toe nail fungus...

> > I was really disappointed with my " treatments " for this,,, I wasn't

> > able to use the Clotrimazol, Lamisyl or any agresive " medicine " for

> > this problem. I started to look at the Internet for " alternatives " and

> > got 2 of this treatments on me... I must confess that I am an M.D.

> > using several kind of electrotherapeutic machines that leaves a lot to

> > desire mostly with cancer. With AIDS no problem, HIV no problem, all

> > infected people are free of this diseases, but using electricity or

> > waves (frequencies) for the treatment of a fungus is another

> > history... until I tried................. VICK'S. YES the medicine for

> > the flu and symptoms of the cold... after taking a shower, apply it on

> > and all the surface of the toenail, after just 2 weeks of use your

> > nail will start to look different... clear, growing and starts to

> > look healed... cut it accordingly. After 6 months of use of this

> > Vick's vaporub, I have a healthy toenail, and my liver and pockets are

> > healthy. Try it... it really works! You must apply Vick's at least

> > twice a day. and must be a continuous use.Photos of the evolution of

> > this cure at your request.

> > M.D.

> >

> >

> >

> > > >

> > > > Anybody know the specifics on curing toenail fungus?

> > > > The voltage? One toe ata a time? - etc.

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Dear All,

If vinegar works for toenail fungus, will it help sniffing vinegar for

sinus. It's also fungus.

Henk

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Subject: Re: Re: Toenail fungus

Dear Bob,

I tried: Nizoral, (short time due to the risk of secundary rections)

Colloidal Silver 3200 ppm (I got a very nice Argyria due to the deposit

of

silver at the base of the nails (Ungueal zone) used tea tree oil,

removal by

myself (I performed this in my own nails) of the nail, and THE FUNGUS

CAME

AGAIN! One day I was thinking " Must be another way to treat this, since

almost all the treatments are not working) Made a search at the Net and

found several ways of non proven ways to treat those toenails... I opted

for:

Use of Listerine plus vinegar 50/50 as a soak after the shower, let it

dry

and then used the Vicks on the sorrounding tissue and on the nail,

enough

quantity to keep on this premises after putting my socks. Before going

to

bed same treatment... AND AFTER just one week I saw the nail to start to

grow with a normal color. I took a picture every month and those are for

your view, just ask.

I think that must be used the vinegar, in order to change the Ph to

acid,

and the fungus will not thrive easily.

Definitelly the clean and dry part are the way to avoid the recurse of

this.

Using Desenex talc in the shoes is another preventive way. I use and do

all

of this and is the first time I have a decent toenail.

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Wow Shirley, I have used EFT on some heavy hitter issues with

phenomenal results but never thought to use it to combat toenail

fungus. I don't think it's far out there cause I know first hand what

EFT can do.

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None of the above, use simply an antifungal pill as I did

" Lamisil " but there is a trick to it.

as long as you are taking the pill the fungus in your body or under the

nails in this case will die, and the new nail that grows is fungus free.

To get rid of the fungus completely and make sure it doesn't come back

you have to take the pill until a new nail is completely re-grown fungus free.

The good part is that you can just cycle the pill 3 months on and 3 months off

since its effects last long and fungus free nail will grow for few months after

ward.

But anti fungals like most medications can be bad for your liver os you need

blood tests, because you are HIV+ you are already getting them so no big deal.

Another side effect of the pill is that the healthy nails in your hands will

become really nice and pink like a little kid, because any trace of fungus will

be rid from them as well.

> From: sforsorosso <sforsorosso@...>

> Subject: Toenail fungus

>

> Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 12:20 PM

> Hey guys,

>

> There's so much great info on this list, I'm very

> appreciative to be a part of it.

>

> So here's my question, what's the best treatment for

> toenail fungus?  I've heard everything from laser to

> vinegar, including Vick's and a few other unusual

> treatments.  I know that there are systemic meds that

> can be taken, but they are hard on the liver and with all

> the other meds I'm taking I don't want to push my

> liver.  I've seen a product online called " Fungal Free

> Nails " that claims to be the best, but that could all be

> marketing hype.  I'm curious what list members

> recommend and/or have had good success with.

>

> Thanks!

>

> Ron

>

>

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I have been using the generic for Penlac (Ciclopirox Topical Solution Nail Lacquer) with good results. It does take a long time to see results, but it is the first thing I've found that puts a dent in the fungus which I've had since I was about 11 years old. And since it is the generic, your copay would be lower probably than the name brand. I tried Lamisil years ago and all it seemed to do is make me constipated :-( And I've tried many of the over-the-counter remedies and they were just a waste of money. From: sforsorosso <sforsorosso@...>Subject: Toenail fungus Date:

Monday, May 18, 2009, 12:20 PM

Hey guys,

There's so much great info on this list, I'm very appreciative to be a part of it.

So here's my question, what's the best treatment for toenail fungus? I've heard everything from laser to vinegar, including Vick's and a few other unusual treatments. I know that there are systemic meds that can be taken, but they are hard on the liver and with all the other meds I'm taking I don't want to push my liver. I've seen a product online called "Fungal Free Nails" that claims to be the best, but that could all be marketing hype. I'm curious what list members recommend and/or have had good success with.

Thanks!

Ron

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I recently read about the many benefits of hydroden peroxide, including applying

it each evening to your feet to eliminate the fungus. Just pour some into a

cloth, saturate the area and allow it to air dry.

I struggled with acute cancer sores of the throat and mouth for years until my

doc told me to gargle with HP. It was the worst pain I have ever had to endure.

Since then, not single outbreak. I'm going to try it out for the fungus. I'll

let everyone know if it works.

>

> Hey guys,

>

> There's so much great info on this list, I'm very appreciative to be a part of

it.

>

> So here's my question, what's the best treatment for toenail fungus? I've

heard everything from laser to vinegar, including Vick's and a few other unusual

treatments. I know that there are systemic meds that can be taken, but they are

hard on the liver and with all the other meds I'm taking I don't want to push my

liver. I've seen a product online called " Fungal Free Nails " that claims to be

the best, but that could all be marketing hype. I'm curious what list members

recommend and/or have had good success with.

>

> Thanks!

>

> Ron

>

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Other than prescription meds, which are pricey to say the least and highly toxic

on the body's organs, most of the TV ads for nail fungal treatments are just

snake-oil disguised as " cures. "

Depending on the extent of the infection of the nail bed (or quick of the nail),

some topical oils/ointments/creams are basically futile.

With toenail fungal infections a " cure " may involve much more than just a course

of treatment. They involve changing shoes daily and not wear the same shoe for

a while. Dry out the shoe and spray anti-fungals (like Tinactin or similar

products) after each use. Reinfection is only a step away. Open-toe sandals

are ideal if you can wear them daily but spray them also and do not wear the

same sandal two days in a row.

I have used Tea Tree oil to keep my infection in place. It takes 2-3

applications daily for a couple of years. Tea tree oil is a little caustic on

the skin (it may have your toe looking dry and flaky). It is not for every case

but it is not taxing on the liver as the pulse-dose therapy (like Sporanox) or

pills such as Diflucan. Additionally, they run about in the hundreds or

thousands of dollars per course of treatment.

If you choose to try Tea Tree oil, go to your local WalMart. They sell a

version on the food supplements shelves which runs you about $7 for a two ounce

bottle and it will last you a year or two. Get a little nail-polish or eyeliner

brush also at WalMart and brush around the oil around the nail where the skin

meets the nail on the four sides that way the oil will seep under the nail bed

little by little. Expect a " normal " looking nail at 12-18 months. They take

forever. Even with a prescription it would take this long... Don't go wasting

your $$$ in concoctions that promise you to become the latest foot model

celebrity overnight.

Remember, one infected toe can infect the rest (blame the shoes again,

remember?). Dead nails can become thickened and painful to walk so nip them in

the bud

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What is a "cancer sore?"From: wetcity68 <wetcity68@...>Subject: Re: Toenail fungus Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 9:03 PM

I recently read about the many benefits of hydroden peroxide, including applying it each evening to your feet to eliminate the fungus. Just pour some into a cloth, saturate the area and allow it to air dry.

I struggled with acute cancer sores of the throat and mouth for years until my doc told me to gargle with HP. It was the worst pain I have ever had to endure. Since then, not single outbreak. I'm going to try it out for the fungus. I'll let everyone know if it works.

>

> Hey guys,

>

> There's so much great info on this list, I'm very appreciative to be a part of it.

>

> So here's my question, what's the best treatment for toenail fungus? I've heard everything from laser to vinegar, including Vick's and a few other unusual treatments. I know that there are systemic meds that can be taken, but they are hard on the liver and with all the other meds I'm taking I don't want to push my liver. I've seen a product online called "Fungal Free Nails" that claims to be the best, but that could all be marketing hype. I'm curious what list members recommend and/or have had good success with.

>

> Thanks!

>

> Ron

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Years ago I used to use Citricidal[oil of grapefruit seed], that was quite useful [and non toxic], recently I have been using oil of camphor [non toxic ] and a rewarding fungus killer: it has become all brown and crumbly and definitely on the way out!From: wetcity68 <wetcity68@...>Subject: Re: Toenail fungus Date: Tuesday, 19 May, 2009, 5:03 AM

I recently read about the many benefits of hydroden peroxide, including applying it each evening to your feet to eliminate the fungus. Just pour some into a cloth, saturate the area and allow it to air dry.

I struggled with acute cancer sores of the throat and mouth for years until my doc told me to gargle with HP. It was the worst pain I have ever had to endure. Since then, not single outbreak. I'm going to try it out for the fungus. I'll let everyone know if it works.

>

> Hey guys,

>

> There's so much great info on this list, I'm very appreciative to be a part of it.

>

> So here's my question, what's the best treatment for toenail fungus? I've heard everything from laser to vinegar, including Vick's and a few other unusual treatments. I know that there are systemic meds that can be taken, but they are hard on the liver and with all the other meds I'm taking I don't want to push my liver. I've seen a product online called "Fungal Free Nails" that claims to be the best, but that could all be marketing hype. I'm curious what list members recommend and/or have had good success with.

>

> Thanks!

>

> Ron

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Years ago I used to use Citricidal[oil of grapefruit seed], that was quite useful [and non toxic], recently I have been using oil of camphor [non toxic ] and a rewarding fungus killer: it has become all brown and crumbly and definitely on the way out!From: wetcity68 <wetcity68@...>Subject: Re: Toenail fungus Date: Tuesday, 19 May, 2009, 5:03 AM

I recently read about the many benefits of hydroden peroxide, including applying it each evening to your feet to eliminate the fungus. Just pour some into a cloth, saturate the area and allow it to air dry.

I struggled with acute cancer sores of the throat and mouth for years until my doc told me to gargle with HP. It was the worst pain I have ever had to endure. Since then, not single outbreak. I'm going to try it out for the fungus. I'll let everyone know if it works.

>

> Hey guys,

>

> There's so much great info on this list, I'm very appreciative to be a part of it.

>

> So here's my question, what's the best treatment for toenail fungus? I've heard everything from laser to vinegar, including Vick's and a few other unusual treatments. I know that there are systemic meds that can be taken, but they are hard on the liver and with all the other meds I'm taking I don't want to push my liver. I've seen a product online called "Fungal Free Nails" that claims to be the best, but that could all be marketing hype. I'm curious what list members recommend and/or have had good success with.

>

> Thanks!

>

> Ron

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Topical solutions and liquids and creams do not work,because the fungus is under the nail, solutions and creams do not penetrate the nail, the solution is to kill the fungus under the nail especially at the base of the nail, so that as the new nail grows it is fungus free.That is why pills are effective they work from the inside out.It also helps to keep the feet dry and clean, fungus grow in humidityso the drier the better, but not any one can wear sandals especiallyif one has lypo, and shoes can be treated old fashion way with anti fungal powderor with a shoe sterilizer.Most podiatrist have them or can be ordered here, I use mine to preventplantar warts from coming

back.http://www.sterishoe.com/--- On Mon, 5/18/09, Flipper 501501 <flipper501501@...> wrote:From: Flipper 501501 <flipper501501@...>Subject: Re: Toenail fungus Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 4:51 PM

I have been using the generic for Penlac (Ciclopirox Topical Solution Nail Lacquer) with good results.  It does take a long time to see results, but it is the first thing I've found that puts a dent in the fungus which I've had since I was about 11 years old.  And since it is the generic, your copay would be lower probably than the name brand.  I tried Lamisil years ago and all it seemed to do is make me constipated :-(  And I've tried many of  the over-the-counter remedies and they were just a waste of money.  From: sforsorosso <sforsorosso@...>Subject: Toenail fungus Date:

Monday, May 18, 2009, 12:20 PM

Hey guys,

There's so much great info on this list, I'm very appreciative to be a part of it.

So here's my question, what's the best treatment for toenail fungus? I've heard everything from laser to vinegar, including Vick's and a few other unusual treatments. I know that there are systemic meds that can be taken, but they are hard on the liver and with all the other meds I'm taking I don't want to push my liver. I've seen a product online called "Fungal Free Nails" that claims to be the best, but that could all be marketing hype. I'm curious what list members recommend and/or have had good success with.

Thanks!

Ron

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Topical solutions and liquids and creams do not work,because the fungus is under the nail, solutions and creams do not penetrate the nail, the solution is to kill the fungus under the nail especially at the base of the nail, so that as the new nail grows it is fungus free.That is why pills are effective they work from the inside out.It also helps to keep the feet dry and clean, fungus grow in humidityso the drier the better, but not any one can wear sandals especiallyif one has lypo, and shoes can be treated old fashion way with anti fungal powderor with a shoe sterilizer.Most podiatrist have them or can be ordered here, I use mine to preventplantar warts from coming

back.http://www.sterishoe.com/--- On Mon, 5/18/09, Flipper 501501 <flipper501501@...> wrote:From: Flipper 501501 <flipper501501@...>Subject: Re: Toenail fungus Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 4:51 PM

I have been using the generic for Penlac (Ciclopirox Topical Solution Nail Lacquer) with good results.  It does take a long time to see results, but it is the first thing I've found that puts a dent in the fungus which I've had since I was about 11 years old.  And since it is the generic, your copay would be lower probably than the name brand.  I tried Lamisil years ago and all it seemed to do is make me constipated :-(  And I've tried many of  the over-the-counter remedies and they were just a waste of money.  From: sforsorosso <sforsorosso@...>Subject: Toenail fungus Date:

Monday, May 18, 2009, 12:20 PM

Hey guys,

There's so much great info on this list, I'm very appreciative to be a part of it.

So here's my question, what's the best treatment for toenail fungus? I've heard everything from laser to vinegar, including Vick's and a few other unusual treatments. I know that there are systemic meds that can be taken, but they are hard on the liver and with all the other meds I'm taking I don't want to push my liver. I've seen a product online called "Fungal Free Nails" that claims to be the best, but that could all be marketing hype. I'm curious what list members recommend and/or have had good success with.

Thanks!

Ron

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He meant canker sores, which are lesions inside the mouth, tongue, inside of the lips, or the inside of the cheeks. They are like pimples... They hurt a little or a lot depending on what you are eating, but a bearable pain.No one knows the cause or cure, but studies suggest several underlying factors. They go away in a week or two.Read more here:http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/canker-sore/DS00354Google for images: "Canker sores" and you'll see the pimple-like lesions. From: Mister <chango73@...> ; wetcity68 <wetcity68@...>Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 6:45:12 AMSubject: Re: Re: Toenail fungus

What is a "cancer sore?"From: wetcity68 <wetcity68@...>Subject: Re: Toenail fungus Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 9:03 PM

I recently read about the many benefits of hydroden peroxide, including applying it each evening to your feet to eliminate the fungus. Just pour some into a cloth, saturate the area and allow it to air dry.

I struggled with acute cancer sores of the throat and mouth for years until my doc told me to gargle with HP. It was the worst pain I have ever had to endure. Since then, not single outbreak. I'm going to try it out for the fungus. I'll let everyone know if it works.

>

> Hey guys,

>

> There's so much great info on this list, I'm very appreciative to be a part of it.

>

> So here's my question, what's the best treatment for toenail fungus? I've heard everything from laser to vinegar, including Vick's and a few other unusual treatments. I know that there are systemic meds that can be taken, but they are hard on the liver and with all the other meds I'm taking I don't want to push my liver. I've seen a product online called "Fungal Free Nails" that claims to be the best, but that could all be marketing hype. I'm curious what list members recommend and/or have had good success with.

>

> Thanks!

>

> Ron

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My 4yold (ASD) has a bad fungus on 2 toes.. Finally got results back from

the lab today (sent in January), yes it is a fungus. So my ped is now

willing to treat.. (wonder why they hand out anti-depressants like candy but

not anti-fungals.. anyways I digress).

Options

* itraconazole (Sporonox),

* fluconazole (Diflucan),

* griseofulvin (Fulvicin), and

* terfinabine (Lamisil)

I want to avoid diflucan because of the fluoride. It can cause mottled

teeth, etc. Which is the best safest choice (I guess nilstat isn't strong

enough?)

Thanks!

Teraza

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I had toe nail fungus in the past and used sporonox - had to have regular labs

to monitor liver function. If I ever got it again, I would at least give

grapefruit seed extract (GSE) the old college try. You might want to read up on

that and start with that rather than the more invasive meds.

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