toenail fungus

April 2, 2002

<<I'm 35 and the non-secretor stuff I seem to have is toenail fungus (that

I've had for years) on a couple of toes. However, it has responded will to

Grapefruit extract. >>

- can you please elaborate on how you are using the grapefruit

extract?

Thanks!

Dianne in L.A.

fellow O nonnie

April 3, 2002

> - can you please elaborate on how you are using the grapefruit

>extract?

I just got some GSE (http://www.nutriteam.com/GSEorder2.htm) from local

health food store. I use drip some drops undiluted on the nails, sometimes

after trimming them (use caution, some people are allergic and need to

dilute) a couple of times a week. After 3 months, nails look much healthier

and thinner. I'll know more in 6 months (9 months average for nails to grow

out).

stephen

www.xiveren.com

" I don't use the accident, because I deny the accident. "

Pollock

July 27, 2003

Lyn,

I have had problems with nail fungus. Prior to my liver enzymes being elevated, my pcp prescribed diflucan. Obviously, diflucan is totally out of the question. A dermatologist gave me a prescription for penlac. It looks just like clear nail polish. The problem is that it never seemed to dry and my nails would get fuzz from my socks. My foot doctor prescribed econazole cream and it seems to have totally cleared up the fungus. I am still using it daily and I will continue using it for several more months just to make sure the fungus is gone. I think I started using the econazole cream about 4 months ago. It seems like it took about two months before I could really tell it was helping.

W

July 27, 2003

W

Why is diflucan out of the question?

Patty

-----Original Message-----From: Weston [mailto:karenw@...] Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 2:15 AM Subject: Re: [ ] toenail fungus

Lyn,

I have had problems with nail fungus. Prior to my liver enzymes being elevated, my pcp prescribed diflucan. Obviously, diflucan is totally out of the question. A dermatologist gave me a prescription for penlac. It looks just like clear nail polish. The problem is that it never seemed to dry and my nails would get fuzz from my socks. My foot doctor prescribed econazole cream and it seems to have totally cleared up the fungus. I am still using it daily and I will continue using it for several more months just to make sure the fungus is gone. I think I started using the econazole cream about 4 months ago. It seems like it took about two months before I could really tell it was helping.

W

July 27, 2003

Patty,

I too have been put on difulcan for yeast infections.

As far as the toenail fungus goes the Orthopaedic Surgeon that I work for specializes in foot and ankle problems. He has only written the RX for oral medication for tonail fungus x 2 in the 5 years I've been with him. Both were young healthy teenagers. He said the meds were too toxic to your liver and although the fungus was annoying and unsightly the risks of taking the oral meds were not worth the benefits. He recommends that patients put Vicks Ointment on the toenails. I've heard patients say it worked while doing it but when you stopped it started again.

July 27, 2003

Patty,

Hope you don't mind me butting in. I know you directed this question

to , but I might offer something here. I had also recently

posted something about this to Lynn. Year or so ago, gastro

referred me to dermatologist cause of strange spots on my neck.

Derm said was a skin fungus. He was about to prescribe 2 meds, one

an oral antifungal and one topical...and asked what the gastro was

treating me for. When I told him AIH, he said only the topical for

me, and that anyone with aih should never take an oral antifungal.

Topical was safe, tho, and it worked fine.

nne

> W

> Why is diflucan out of the question?

> Patty

>

> Re: [ ] toenail fungus

>

> Lyn,

> I have had problems with nail fungus. Prior to my liver enzymes

being

> elevated, my pcp prescribed diflucan. Obviously, diflucan is

totally out of

> the question. A dermatologist gave me a prescription for penlac.

It looks

> just like clear nail polish. The problem is that it never seemed

to dry and

> my nails would get fuzz from my socks. My foot doctor prescribed

econazole

> cream and it seems to have totally cleared up the fungus. I am

still using

> it daily and I will continue using it for several more months just

to make

> sure the fungus is gone. I think I started using the econazole

cream about

> 4 months ago. It seems like it took about two months before I

could really

> tell it was helping.

>

> W

>

July 27, 2003

nne,

The reason I ask was that I was on daily diflucan for 3 years while I had

biliary catheters because they were so concerned about a yeast or fungal

infection growing in my chest where the opening was. The diflucan effected

my prograf absorption rate the same way grapefruit does with cyclosporine

and prograf. Other than that I was fine.

Patty

Re: [ ] toenail fungus

>

> Lyn,

> I have had problems with nail fungus. Prior to my liver enzymes

being

> elevated, my pcp prescribed diflucan. Obviously, diflucan is

totally out of

> the question. A dermatologist gave me a prescription for penlac.

It looks

> just like clear nail polish. The problem is that it never seemed

to dry and

> my nails would get fuzz from my socks. My foot doctor prescribed

econazole

> cream and it seems to have totally cleared up the fungus. I am

still using

> it daily and I will continue using it for several more months just

to make

> sure the fungus is gone. I think I started using the econazole

cream about

> 4 months ago. It seems like it took about two months before I

could really

> tell it was helping.

>

> W

>

July 27, 2003

Oh, and nne, you can butt in anytime!

Patty

Re: [ ] toenail fungus

>

> Lyn,

> I have had problems with nail fungus. Prior to my liver enzymes

being

> elevated, my pcp prescribed diflucan. Obviously, diflucan is

totally out of

> the question. A dermatologist gave me a prescription for penlac.

It looks

> just like clear nail polish. The problem is that it never seemed

to dry and

> my nails would get fuzz from my socks. My foot doctor prescribed

econazole

> cream and it seems to have totally cleared up the fungus. I am

still using

> it daily and I will continue using it for several more months just

to make

> sure the fungus is gone. I think I started using the econazole

cream about

> 4 months ago. It seems like it took about two months before I

could really

> tell it was helping.

>

> W

>

December 24, 2004

Is the vinegar diluted? And soak them for how long? Thanks...

March 30, 2005

Hi Bee,

Thanks for the words of encouragement! I think that was just what I needed to

hear. Right when I think I've got it all figured out, I get reminded that I

still need to work on having patience and acceptance! Thanks again to you and

all for wonderful support.

Janine

In a message dated 3/30/2005 6:51:29 AM Pacific Standard Time,

writes:

Dear Janine,

About your toenail fungus, remember the body heals in it's own time.

It will heal the most important inner organs before it heals externally.

You could try nystatin. It does kill candida/fungus on contact.

I knew a guy who had toenail fungus and no direct treatment helped it

until he totally cured his candida.

I understand how really frustrating it is, but please do have

patience. My persistent vaginal yeast did not respond to any direct

treatment all the time I was on the candida program, but I had it for

over 25 years. Finally, after 2 1/2 years it healed.

Bee

March 31, 2005

Janine wrote:

> Hi Bee,

> Thanks for the words of encouragement! I think that was just what I

needed to > hear. Right when I think I've got it all figured out, I get

reminded that I > still need to work on having patience and

acceptance! Thanks again to you and > all for wonderful support.

==>You are so very welcome Janine. Hang in there! It's onward and

upward!

Bee

>

April 3, 2005

In a message dated 4/2/2005 7:43:35 AM Pacific Standard Time,

writes:

Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 19:29:35 -0800 (PST)

From: E Buchbinder <ebuchbin@...>

Subject: Re: One more Nystatin question re: Toenail fungus?

I started to get a nail fungus, it was turning white and seperating about

2/3's into the center of the nail. I just soaked the toe a few times a day in a

small container of peroxide. While soaking I used pressure to open the under

part of the nail to make sure the peroxide got under the nail. It's now almost

completely grown out.

Hi " E " -

Thanks for the peroxide idea - I had heard of that before but never tried it.

I think that the soaking is really helpful. I'll give it a try with the

peroxide!

Janine

April 3, 2005

Isn't really thick toe nails fungus as well? I know this sounds gross but my

brother in law had yellow nails and swears he got rid of them by urinating on

them when he was in the shower every morning. He read that in a alternative

health book and his issue did go away so maybe it wasn't Candida related.

I do notice that the rest of my toes have cleared up but the big one is still

ICKY. Could they just be soaked in peroxide? Or is this something that has to

heal from the inside out only?

Jeanne K

April 3, 2005

On Sun, 3 Apr 2005, judith OShea wrote:

>

> I do NOT recommend the following as being totally safe, but it DOES

> work every time: You can create a solution of bleach and water, using

> equal portions, and dip in cotton swab which you will apply CAREFULLY to

> the affected area. Please do NOT soak toe in this solution! It is just

> too strong for that.

Here's something I found helps and is perfectly safe. I've been making

pau d'arco tea for about a year. After boiling the grounds of the bark

and straining the tea, I was just throwing away the grounds for a while

but got to thinking there must be a use for them.

I've had the fungus on my feet for quite a while. I started soaking my

feet for about 10 minutes each day in the grounds with a little water

added. It really helped reduce the fungus.

Zack

April 3, 2005

I really works. I cured my toe nail fungus by soaking me feet in my urine. I

would soak my feet while watcing a movie at night. It took about a month or so.

My feet became so soft and silky like babys feet again. I was very impressed.

Jay

jeannekrieg@... wrote:

Isn't really thick toe nails fungus as well? I know this sounds gross but my

brother in law had yellow nails and swears he got rid of them by urinating on

them when he was in the shower every morning. He read that in a alternative

health book and his issue did go away so maybe it wasn't Candida related.

I do notice that the rest of my toes have cleared up but the big one is still

ICKY. Could they just be soaked in peroxide? Or is this something that has to

heal from the inside out only?

Jeanne K

April 4, 2005

Jeanne wrote:

> Isn't really thick toe nails fungus as well? I know this sounds

gross but my brother in law had yellow nails and swears he got rid of

them by urinating on them when he was in the shower every morning. He

read that in a alternative health book and his issue did go away so

maybe it wasn't Candida related.

==>That's an interesting treatment.

>

> I do notice that the rest of my toes have cleared up but the big one

is still ICKY. Could they just be soaked in peroxide? Or is this

something that has to heal from the inside out only?

==>You can soak in 3% peroxide, but not full strength. Mix it 1/2 and

1/2 with sterile water (boiled for 30 minutes).

Bee

March 7, 2006

>

> Hi Bee and all,

>

> Still doing very well on Bee's candida diet, thanks so much Bee for

helping me dramatically improve my life! I still have the annoying

toenail fungus although it is much better than it was, with much

constant care (soaking,> filing, home remedies including oregano oil,

tea tree oil etc). My doctor> just offered to give me a prescription

for that topical toenail polish,> Penlac, and it's covered by

insurance. Should I do it (any reason why I> shouldn't?) or just keep

up with the home-treatment??? Has anyone tried it?

> With what success? Any concerns with it?

==>It would not be a good idea to use Penlac. In fact they state it

should not be used with other antifungals ??? It will take time to

cure your toenail fungus, and it may be the last thing to heal -

sorry. You are doing everything you can to assist it with natural

treatments, i.e. tea tree oil, oregano oil, etc. and they will not

cause side effects like Penlac will. Have patience my dear. It's

tough I know. But hang in there. I believe Penlac would be damaging

and just suppress symptoms, and not trully effect healing. Stick to

the candida program and over time your nail fungus will heal -

believe me.

Bee

>

March 10, 2006

>

> Hi Bee,

>

> I have a question about the toenail fungus, if I can remember

correctly I have had toenail fungus for over 20 years, could this have

been when the candida started in my body? Is this how it all starts?

Could I have had this miserable condition that long?

==>Toenail fungus doesn't start in the toenails, it starts in the

intestines. So, yes, you've probably had it that long or longer.

Bee

April 19, 2006

Trish wrote:

>

> Hi Bee- Since beginning to treat my candida I have developed a

toenail fungus. This is something I have never had before in my

life. Why did this come after starting treatment? This does not

> sound like healing, more like the yeast moving around. Should I be

treating it topically or do I just continue to treat the Candida per

your program? Or both!

==>The body externalizes healing to the skin to protect vital inner

organs and that's why you've developed a toenail fungus. You can treat

it topically as well as continuing on the candida program which will

eventually clear it up. I think there may be a file on it but can't

remember what it is called. You can use oil of oregano or tea tree oil

applied directly and also soak it in espom salts in water. Or use

garlic tea or mix half and half sterile water and 3% hydrogen peroxide

for soaking.

Bee

December 29, 2006

takes forever, daily use or twice daily. not good idea. use the

stuff at the store, clotrimatron, or whatever the heck it's called

apply and use with electricity might be good...electricity does work

it's just painfully slow and you'll get sick and tired of it. The

fungus can grow back easily. using the cream and also a wrist

electrifier see photos, makes some sense as it's in the blood as well

as under your nails. And wash feet, wear shoes that can keep toe area

dry. Pain in the butt, I'm almost rid of it, but the cream was my

magic plus better hygeine and the use on wrist.

bG

>

> Anybody know the specifics on curing toenail fungus?

> The voltage? One toe ata a time? - etc.

>

December 30, 2006

To ALL people suffering toe nail fungus...

I was really disappointed with my " treatments " for this,,, I wasn't able to

use the Clotrimazol, Lamisyl or any agresive " medicine " for this problem. I

started to look at the Internet for " alternatives " and got 2 of this

treatments on me... I must confess that I am an M.D. using several kind of

electrotherapeutic machines that leaves a lot to desire mostly with cancer.

With AIDS no problem, HIV no problem, all infected people are free of this

diseases, but using electricity or waves (frequencies) for the treatment of

a fungus is another history... until I tried................. VICK'S. YES

the medicine for the flu and symptoms of the cold... after taking a shower,

apply it on and all the surface of the toenail, after just 2 weeks of use

your nail will start to look different... clear, growing and starts to look

healed... cut it accordingly. After 6 months of use of this Vick's vaporub,

I have a healthy toenail, and my liver and pockets are healthy. Try it... it

really works! You must apply Vick's at least twice a day. and must be a

continuous use.

M.D.

On 12/29/06, baby_grand <no_reply > wrote:

>

> takes forever, daily use or twice daily. not good idea. use the

> stuff at the store, clotrimatron, or whatever the heck it's called

> apply and use with electricity might be good...electricity does work

> it's just painfully slow and you'll get sick and tired of it. The

> fungus can grow back easily. using the cream and also a wrist

> electrifier see photos, makes some sense as it's in the blood as well

> as under your nails. And wash feet, wear shoes that can keep toe area

> dry. Pain in the butt, I'm almost rid of it, but the cream was my

> magic plus better hygeine and the use on wrist.

>

> bG

>

> >

> > Anybody know the specifics on curing toenail fungus?

> > The voltage? One toe ata a time? - etc.

> >

>

--

M.D.

December 30, 2006

I've never tried it but I have wondered if ..........applying CS

w/dmso would be effective against toe nail fungus. I went to the

extent of having my two great toe nails removed completely w' the nail

bed scraped. Now that was painful! But the podiatrist had said at the

time he did it that if he didn't get every thing it would come back

with a vengeance and it did.

--

In Love, Light and Honor.............. Happy New year!

May You and Yours be Blessed with Health, Happiness, Wisdom and Prosperity.

December 30, 2006

But, Bob, I thought that you reported curing your toenail fungus with Godzilla a

couple years ago.

My wife had it and she used microcurrents a few times and also tea tree oil. She

also used vinegar a few times, and DMSO with CS, I believe. Anyway hers went

away and has never come back. Don't know which worked.

I have read that you must treat the nail until all the discoloration has grown

out, and then some. Otherwise there is still some fungus left and it will

reinfect.

Dick

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