Re: better at the beach!! worse at home?

August 10, 2009

I think it's maybe he enjoyed the beach. Did you do any therapy while you were

there? My son was the same way. We went to the beach and when he got home, he

was whinny and took awhile to get back to the usual therapies. I think it's his

way of saying he's tired of it all and he had fun during vacation and wants

more.

Our kids do work hard!

Marie

>

> we just got back from a week at the beach and my 2 yr old did great. no

improvments in speech but perfect eye contact. also he did really well in the

ocean. he did not like the sand without shoes and he did cover his eyes with his

hands in the elevator. other than that he did great.

>

> we got home sat. night and he has had one meltdown after another since.

>

> he does this everytime we go either to the mountains or to the beach.

>

> i thought it was our house but we have moved twice and it happened at both

houses.

>

> any ideas???

>

> thanks

> sharon

>

August 10, 2009

My son is the same way at the beach....he's so calm, so peaceful. I have a

friend who swears it's ions that are present. I'm not really sure, but I thought

that for kids who are real sensory the beach may give them some relief. There's

not a lot of clutter....they can just stare out into the ocean and not be

distracted. Also, the sounds of the waves may be calming...it is to me. I

imagine it may be like going from rush hour traffic into a quiet room....serene.

>

> we just got back from a week at the beach and my 2 yr old did great. no

improvments in speech but perfect eye contact. also he did really well in the

ocean. he did not like the sand without shoes and he did cover his eyes with his

hands in the elevator. other than that he did great.

>

> we got home sat. night and he has had one meltdown after another since.

>

> he does this everytime we go either to the mountains or to the beach.

>

> i thought it was our house but we have moved twice and it happened at both

houses.

>

> any ideas???

>

> thanks

> sharon

>

August 10, 2009

Lots of magnesium in salt water.

TJ

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From: ssmith0306 <ssmith0306@...>

Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 2:01:48 PM

Subject: [ ] better at the beach!! worse at home?

we just got back from a week at the beach and my 2 yr old did great. no

improvments in speech but perfect eye contact. also he did really well in the

ocean. he did not like the sand without shoes and he did cover his eyes with his

hands in the elevator. other than that he did great.

we got home sat. night and he has had one meltdown after another since.

he does this everytime we go either to the mountains or to the beach.

i thought it was our house but we have moved twice and it happened at both

houses.

any ideas???

thanks

sharon

August 10, 2009

yah less expectations too. they are supposed to be wet and dirty and run around

and play and not much else other than eat. LOL. My son was always SO good at

the beach (still is!). Maybe I expected less of him there.

From: maggie_orourke <maggie_orourke@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: better at the beach!! worse at home?

Date: Monday, August 10, 2009, 5:22 PM

My son is the same way at the beach....he' s so calm, so

peaceful. I have a friend who swears it's ions that are present. I'm not really

sure, but I thought that for kids who are real sensory the beach may give them

some relief. There's not a lot of clutter....they can just stare out into the

ocean and not be distracted. Also, the sounds of the waves may be calming...it

is to me. I imagine it may be like going from rush hour traffic into a quiet

room....serene.

>

> we just got back from a week at the beach and my 2 yr old did great. no

improvments in speech but perfect eye contact. also he did really well in the

ocean. he did not like the sand without shoes and he did cover his eyes with his

hands in the elevator. other than that he did great.

>

> we got home sat. night and he has had one meltdown after another since.

>

> he does this everytime we go either to the mountains or to the beach.

>

> i thought it was our house but we have moved twice and it happened at both

houses.

>

> any ideas???

>

> thanks

> sharon

>

August 10, 2009

I had same experience with my 10 years old son. He was calmer and more language

after 5 days swimming at the beach even I didnt' give him any supplements.

From: amesw@...

Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 14:48:19 -0700

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: better at the beach!! worse at home?

yah less expectations too. they are supposed to be wet and dirty and run around

and play and not much else other than eat. LOL. My son was always SO good at

the beach (still is!). Maybe I expected less of him there.

From: maggie_orourke <maggie_orourke@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: better at the beach!! worse at home?

Date: Monday, August 10, 2009, 5:22 PM

My son is the same way at the beach....he' s so calm, so peaceful. I have a

friend who swears it's ions that are present. I'm not really sure, but I thought

that for kids who are real sensory the beach may give them some relief. There's

not a lot of clutter....they can just stare out into the ocean and not be

distracted. Also, the sounds of the waves may be calming...it is to me. I

imagine it may be like going from rush hour traffic into a quiet room....serene.

>

> we just got back from a week at the beach and my 2 yr old did great. no

improvments in speech but perfect eye contact. also he did really well in the

ocean. he did not like the sand without shoes and he did cover his eyes with his

hands in the elevator. other than that he did great.

>

> we got home sat. night and he has had one meltdown after another since.

>

> he does this everytime we go either to the mountains or to the beach.

>

> i thought it was our house but we have moved twice and it happened at both

houses.

>

> any ideas???

>

> thanks

> sharon

>

August 10, 2009

How about all of that sunshine and vitmain D?

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From: Zhu <suyingzhu@...>

autism treatment

Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 6:01:42 PM

Subject: RE: [ ] Re: better at the beach!! worse at home?

I had same experience with my 10 years old son. He was calmer and more language

after 5 days swimming at the beach even I didnt' give him any supplements.

From: amesw (DOT) com

Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 14:48:19 -0700

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: better at the beach!! worse at home?

yah less expectations too. they are supposed to be wet and dirty and run around

and play and not much else other than eat. LOL. My son was always SO good at the

beach (still is!). Maybe I expected less of him there.

From: maggie_orourke <maggie_orourke>

Subject: [ ] Re: better at the beach!! worse at home?

Date: Monday, August 10, 2009, 5:22 PM

My son is the same way at the beach....he' s so calm, so peaceful. I have a

friend who swears it's ions that are present. I'm not really sure, but I thought

that for kids who are real sensory the beach may give them some relief. There's

not a lot of clutter....they can just stare out into the ocean and not be

distracted. Also, the sounds of the waves may be calming...it is to me. I

imagine it may be like going from rush hour traffic into a quiet room....serene.

>

> we just got back from a week at the beach and my 2 yr old did great. no

improvments in speech but perfect eye contact. also he did really well in the

ocean. he did not like the sand without shoes and he did cover his eyes with his

hands in the elevator. other than that he did great.

>

> we got home sat. night and he has had one meltdown after another since.

>

> he does this everytime we go either to the mountains or to the beach.

>

> i thought it was our house but we have moved twice and it happened at both

houses.

>

> any ideas???

>

> thanks

> sharon

>

August 10, 2009

I discovered by fluke I am allergic to dust mites. I have to spray my closets,

carpets, curtains and mattresses every three months and dust and vaccuum daily

or I can't stand being in the house - short tempered and surly(adult

meltdoens!).

I also have a homeopathic dust mite remedy that works great when I stay with

anyone else.

August 10, 2009

Also consider the reduction or absence of airborne allergens at the beach.

You could even notice any difference in behavior when there's an onshore

breeze vs an offshore breeze. If he's better with an onshore breeze

(bringing allergen-free ocean air), that would be significant.

Dean

August 10, 2009

I cannot believe this! I just picked up my son and husband from the airport who

spent 5 days in Yellowstone. My son was off of his restrictive diet (Feingold

Stage 1) and was eating all kinds of foods that he never gets to eat. Both my

husband and father-in-law said he was absolutely " perfect " , a real " gem " , never

complaining or whining about anything. He got very little sleep, could not take

his probiotics (b/c my husband said they got " ruined " since they could not

refrigerate them in time), he did not have a bowel movement for a few days, and

he ate bad cafeteria food. As soon as he arrived in Chicago, he started acting

extremely hyper. At the dinner table, my husband said he was acting " crazy " and

did not act like that once in Yellowstone. It was like he couldn't control

himself at the table. Although I understand what many of you are saying about

the vitamin D from being out in the sun, fun activity, magnesium in the salt

water or ocean air, I cannot

now help but feel that maybe he is allergic to something in our house or in our

environment (God knows Chicago is polluted). We were also in FL a few months

ago, and he was almost perfect there too. Any other thoughts?

From: Dean <dmo25@...>

Subject: RE: [ ] Re: better at the beach!! worse at home?

Date: Monday, August 10, 2009, 8:01 PM

Also consider the reduction or absence of airborne allergens

at the beach.

You could even notice any difference in behavior when there's an onshore

breeze vs an offshore breeze. If he's better with an onshore breeze

(bringing allergen-free ocean air), that would be significant.

Dean

August 10, 2009

I happen to believe that nature is healing -- oceans, mountains, forests, even

dirt.... When we get away from the " city " , Our bodies get more in tune with the

earth's natural rhythms. I noticed this when my boys were little. They would be

pretty awful at times at home, but out in nature they behaved better, ate

better, and slept better!

Many of us are hyper-sensitive to electromagnetic fields. I'm one of those

people who reacts terribly to EMFs. They make me dizzy, unsteady on my feet,

nauseated, light-headed and foggy-brained. Certain places are the worst - such

as certain stores (with LOTS of fluorescent lighting), places with lots of

computers, TVs, stereos, etc., doctors' offices and hospitals...

This subject is being explored in ASD kids. Some parents are trying to adjust

their home environments to create " cleaner " EM environments. As an experiment,

you might shut the power off for a short while, and see if it affects your son's

behavior. One must-do is to remove all fluorescent lighting, (and the compact

fluorescent bulbs being marketed as " green " are mercury-driven)... Etc. etc.

Salt is good for you! Kind of interesting article. Skip down to about paragraph

8.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/dietandfitness/3351221/Health-and-fitness-An-h\

our-down-the-salt-mine-is-like-a-day-at-the-seaside.html

-- In , " ssmith0306 " <ssmith0306@...> wrote:

>

> we just got back from a week at the beach and my 2 yr old did great. no

improvments in speech but perfect eye contact. also he did really well in the

ocean. he did not like the sand without shoes and he did cover his eyes with his

hands in the elevator. other than that he did great.

>

> we got home sat. night and he has had one meltdown after another since.

>

> he does this everytime we go either to the mountains or to the beach.

>

> i thought it was our house but we have moved twice and it happened at both

houses.

>

> any ideas???

>

> thanks

> sharon

>

August 11, 2009

We live by the beach and every time we go, my son says he doesn't want to, but

he also does very well. I read somewhere that the Atlantic is very good for

you. If you think about it, the oceans have lots of mineral content and if they

are playing in it, their bodies would absorb this and breathing the sea spray

would also get it into their bodies. I would guess it works like Epsom salt

baths. Being out in nature would also allow the body to have a break from

pollution and and to be able to work on other detoxing.

I feel better when I go too.

Einstein once said, " A foolish faith in authority is the worst enemy of the

truth " .

http://www.telegrap h.co.uk/health/ dietandfitness/ 3351221/Health- and-fitness-

An-hour-down- the-salt- mine-is-like- a-day-at- the-seaside. html

-- In , " ssmith0306 " <ssmith0306@ ...> wrote:

>

> we just got back from a week at the beach and my 2 yr old did great. no

improvments in speech but perfect eye contact. also he did really well in the

ocean. he did not like the sand without shoes and he did cover his eyes with his

hands in the elevator. other than that he did great.

>

> we got home sat. night and he has had one meltdown after another since.

>

> he does this everytime we go either to the mountains or to the beach.

>

> i thought it was our house but we have moved twice and it happened at both

houses.

>

> any ideas???

>

> thanks

> sharon

>

August 11, 2009

My kids are like this too.....and I think that it is a couple things that come

into play...newness is the biggest thing. New situations, new people, new

foods...the whole thing is new and exciting...and then home again....back to

normal routines, normal foods, normal whatever it takes to make life work...

Plus the stress seems less when we are at the lake or something like that...I am

not stressed trying to figure out how to feed them so they will eat with out

arguing...not thinking about supps, poops and all the rest of the biomedical

stuff...and neither are they. We don't go on long trips..but I do notice this

even on the shorter ones. I am sure they get as stressed and bored and uptite

as we do...and takin a break seems to make a big difference.

jmho

Ronni

> I happen to believe that nature is healing -- oceans, mountains, forests, even

dirt.... When we get away from the " city " , Our bodies get more in tune with the

earth's natural rhythms. I noticed this when my boys were little. They would be

pretty awful at times at home, but out in nature they behaved better, ate

better, and slept better!

>

> Many of us are hyper-sensitive to electromagnetic fields. I'm one of those

people who reacts terribly to EMFs. They make me dizzy, unsteady on my feet,

nauseated, light-headed and foggy-brained. Certain places are the worst - such

as certain stores (with LOTS of fluorescent lighting), places with lots of

computers, TVs, stereos, etc., doctors' offices and hospitals...

>

> This subject is being explored in ASD kids. Some parents are trying to adjust

their home environments to create " cleaner " EM environments. As an experiment,

you might shut the power off for a short while, and see if it affects your son's

behavior. One must-do is to remove all fluorescent lighting, (and the compact

fluorescent bulbs being marketed as " green " are mercury-driven)... Etc. etc.

>

> Salt is good for you! Kind of interesting article. Skip down to about

paragraph 8.

>

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/dietandfitness/3351221/Health-and-fitness-An-h\

our-down-the-salt-mine-is-like-a-day-at-the-seaside.html

>

> -- In , " ssmith0306 " <ssmith0306@> wrote:

> >

> > we just got back from a week at the beach and my 2 yr old did great. no

improvments in speech but perfect eye contact. also he did really well in the

ocean. he did not like the sand without shoes and he did cover his eyes with his

hands in the elevator. other than that he did great.

> >

> > we got home sat. night and he has had one meltdown after another since.

> >

> > he does this everytime we go either to the mountains or to the beach.

> >

> > i thought it was our house but we have moved twice and it happened at both

houses.

> >

> > any ideas???

> >

> > thanks

> > sharon

> >

>

August 11, 2009

please, could you email me what you use in your house as well as the homeopathic

remedy?

thanks

sharon

From: kristinabradsmom <kdrapeau@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: better at the beach!! worse at home?

Date: Monday, August 10, 2009, 7:59 PM

I discovered by fluke I am allergic to dust mites. I have to spray my closets,

carpets, curtains and mattresses every three months and dust and vaccuum daily

or I can't stand being in the house - short tempered and surly(adult

meltdoens!).

I also have a homeopathic dust mite remedy that works great when I stay with

anyone else.

August 11, 2009

We've always noticed that our son does quite well on vacations. I think lack of

boredom plays into it a ton. The most interesting occurrence on a recent

vacation was in december when we took a cruise. My son has issues with peeing

the bed. If we don't wake him up at 10:30, he'll be wet by 11:00 or so. After

this one potty trip, he'll usually stay dry until morning. Well, one night on

the cruise, he was especially wet. He was wet when we got him up at 10:30, he

peed again at that time (a lot!). He woke up wet at 6:00 and then peed again!

(I felt so bad for the people who had to clean our room...wished I could have

just done it for them!) we started thinking about the " whys " ...he had been

swimming in the ocean that day, so our first thought was that he may have been

drinking too much ocean water, but after a few seconds we realized that he had a

life jacket on the entire time. His head never went under. He had not had any

more fluid than usual. We were guessing there was more natural detoxing going

on than usual due to the salt water???

Kari

> > >

> > > we just got back from a week at the beach and my 2 yr old did great. no

improvments in speech but perfect eye contact. also he did really well in the

ocean. he did not like the sand without shoes and he did cover his eyes with his

hands in the elevator. other than that he did great.

> > >

> > > we got home sat. night and he has had one meltdown after another since.

> > >

> > > he does this everytime we go either to the mountains or to the beach.

> > >

> > > i thought it was our house but we have moved twice and it happened at both

houses.

> > >

> > > any ideas???

> > >

> > > thanks

> > > sharon

> > >

> >

>

August 11, 2009

That IS strange - the only thing I can offer is that sometimes it takes time for

salicylate reactions to occur. It's associated with detoxification of the

liver so there's a threshold before the by-products start to build up. They say

the same thing with yeast too. Often there's a honeymoon period as the

yeast/bad bacteria get their needed food. Then the rough stuff starts. Or

maybe your kiddo is just better for daddy than mommy (I get this with grandma/pa

too). Wouldn't that be a kicker?

5yo PDD

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