Re: Candida Spit Test

[Guest guest]

DJ,

The spit test, do you mean spit in water in the

a.m. No I actually just read about that today

and will do that when I wake up tomorrow.

I did use link to find doctor. There are several

in this area and two with YS so will try that.

DJ, you use the tablets or injections?

thanks.

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[Guest guest]

I mentioned a spit test? I don't think I did but it would have been the one

your referring to from Dr. Crook (his last name is so ironic to me).

Glad you found some doctors in your area. Be aware most health insurances

don't cover alternative medicine doctors.

My diflucan is tablet, I'm going to ask the doc about powder next time

though.

> Re: Candida Spit Test

>

> DJ,

> The spit test, do you mean spit in water in the

> a.m. No I actually just read about that today

> and will do that when I wake up tomorrow.

>

> I did use link to find doctor. There are several

> in this area and two with YS so will try that.

>

> DJ, you use the tablets or injections?

>

> thanks.

>

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

What is the timing for the test? Within 15 minutes there was nothing

at the bottom but after an hour some small parts of it was at the

bottom and there was also some cloudiness at the middle part. Length

of the tentacles did not change.

Thanks

Nil

> 1 inch just means candida. But if it did not go below that it is

not so

> bad. Some people have it sink to the bottom of the glas. There

are no

> tentacles at all if there is no candida.

>

>

[Guest guest]

hi,

I did some search on it and it was given at many candida sites.It is

said to be a good indication of candida.

Thanks.

Nil

> Hi Kurt!

>

> Where did this spit test come from?

>

> Are there studies to back up it's accuracy?

>

> ts./

[Guest guest]

Hi- so what are some of the sites that you searched out?

Thanks,

n.

Re: Candida Spit test

hi,

I did some search on it and it was given at many candida sites.It is

said to be a good indication of candida.

Thanks.

Nil

> Hi Kurt!

>

> Where did this spit test come from?

>

> Are there studies to back up it's accuracy?

>

> ts./

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[Guest guest]

Usually I see something within 5-10 minutes, but I believe at times it

has taken longer.

--Kurt

Re: Candida Spit test

What is the timing for the test? Within 15 minutes there was nothing

at the bottom but after an hour some small parts of it was at the

bottom and there was also some cloudiness at the middle part. Length

of the tentacles did not change.

Thanks

Nil

> 1 inch just means candida. But if it did not go below that it is

not so

> bad. Some people have it sink to the bottom of the glas. There

are no

> tentacles at all if there is no candida.

>

>

This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with

each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any

treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor.

[Guest guest]

Hi Natasha,

I am out of energy a this time to do the search again and I have not

bookmarked any of them. You may wish to make a google search for

related words like `candida` `spit` `water`,etc.

best wishes:)

Nil

> Hi- so what are some of the sites that you searched out?

> Thanks,

> n.

>

> removed]

[Guest guest]

Hi;

okay, thanks-

favor: Please, and this includes me, if any of us happen to mention that a

certain topic is on a website, and if we remember, could we just put down the

website as it would be so much easier for all of us?

thanks,

n

Re: Candida Spit test

Hi Natasha,

I am out of energy a this time to do the search again and I have not

bookmarked any of them. You may wish to make a google search for

related words like `candida` `spit` `water`,etc.

best wishes:)

Nil

> Hi- so what are some of the sites that you searched out?

> Thanks,

> n.

>

> removed]

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[Guest guest]

So, Nil, do you recollect if any of those sites offerred any

documentation of the reliability of this test?

= = = Original message = = =

I am out of energy a this time to do the search again and I have

not

bookmarked any of them. You may wish to make a google search for

related words like `candida` `spit` `water`,etc.

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My own testing showed it to be fairly reliable. We had a bunch of

people use it, and those with candida had the tentacles, those without

did not. But there are reports that the test does not work for

everyone. Just like any test. I have never read a biological

explanation for the test, so might be interesting to find out if anyone

has tried to explain it. No doubt there is some surface cohesion or

spit density issue. My guess is that it is still a marker for health

even if not a perfect candida test.

--Kurt

Re: Re: Candida Spit test

So, Nil, do you recollect if any of those sites offerred any

documentation of the reliability of this test?

= = = Original message = = =

I am out of energy a this time to do the search again and I have

not

bookmarked any of them. You may wish to make a google search for

related words like `candida` `spit` `water`,etc.

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[Guest guest]

I am sorry Will,I don't collect info at this point.I just take a

look. That is all..

Thanks

Nil

> So, Nil, do you recollect if any of those sites offerred any

> documentation of the reliability of this test?

[Guest guest]

I would say so - it sounds quite drmatic.Read the following Anne http://www.ninazu.com/tests1.html . I very much doubt you will be wasting your money.

Luv - Sheila

Candida "spit" test

Hi everyone,I am just about to spend £70 on the IWDL candida antibody test. Before I sign away my money, can anyone clarify the results of thehome test. I carried it out this morning and the saliva was more likea tornado funnel than legs - going straight down to the bottom of theglass. After a short while, there was no saliva left on top. Is thisa positive result for candida?LuvAnne

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Hi Anne,

I experience that often too (and I have severe Candida). I don't know why this happens, but at a guess - I think the spit you have summond up this morning might have consisted more of phlegm than saliva. I would imagine that you (like me) are suffering from chronically nightly blocked sinuses, which create a lot of phlegm. I am ok during the day, but at night one side of my head is always blocked up. - Anyway... my guess is that your spit this morning was mostly phlegm and that this was full of yeast, causing this 'tornado' in the water glass. Sometimes the water could also get quite cloudy and I can see the yeast sitting at the bottom of the glass.

I don't think your money will be wasted - do let us know the results, please... I would be very interested.

love,

[Guest guest]

Hi Anne

Go and have a look at the link that has just posted. I have copied it and uploaded this to our Files Section. See Candida-Yeast-Thyroid-Fibromyalgia Connection. This should explain a lot to you.

Luv - Sheila

Hi everyone,I am just about to spend £70 on the IWDL candida antibody test. Before I sign away my money, can anyone clarify the results of thehome test. I carried it out this morning and the saliva was more likea tornado funnel than legs - going straight down to the bottom of theglass. After a short while, there was no saliva left on top. Is thisa positive result for candida?LuvAnne

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[Guest guest]

Not sure about that one Anne...when I used to do the spit test I had definate 'tendrils' floating down to the bottom of the glass.

I did get the Candida test done from IWDL and came back positive although as bad as some folk seen to be.....

June

>> Hi everyone,> > I am just about to spend £70 on the IWDL candida antibody test. > Before I sign away my money, can anyone clarify the results of the> home test. I carried it out this morning and the saliva was more like> a tornado funnel than legs - going straight down to the bottom of the> glass. After a short while, there was no saliva left on top. Is this> a positive result for candida?> > Luv> Anne>

[Guest guest]

>

>

> Hi Anne,

>

> I experience that often too (and I have severe Candida). I don't

know why this happens, but at a guess -

Hi ,

Thanks for your reply. I have sent off my test to IWDL. I have just

posted about being riddled with Candida. I saw my GP yesterday

afternoon about my sore eyes and tongue - parts of the back of it

looked like the top skin had been burned away! Candida again - I

started using a cream he prescribed for me - miconazole - and there

has been some improvement already. He has also prescribed the

fluconazole for me. He knows I see Dr. P and that this is what he

suggests for candida treatment. I have to say that he really is

trying to work with me on this. I just need a really good

anti-candida diet to follow now. If you have any info on that, I

really would appreciate it.

Luv,

Anne

>

[Guest guest]

Hello Anne,

Anti-Candida diet.... it will be hard - no two ways about it. It will have to become a way of life, as there is no quick fix nor will it be over in a couple of months. Even if at first you succeed, the moment you go back to your "normal" way of eating, the Candida will come back with a vengeance. Been there several times, tried all the shortcuts - its a waste of time. If you want this to work, the first thing you need to do is to adjust your mind and from now on regard sugar in all shapes, forms and disguises as your enemy No.1. Sugar is a poison and it is everywhere ! You won't be able to avoid it totally, but you need to avoid any obvious and added sugars. Carbohydrates is a bit of a minefield (a big part of carbs turns into sugar in your body).... but carbs in your diet are necessary. So you need to be sensible. I am no nutritionist, and apart from the obvious ones like grains etc, I don't always know what is what. But generally speaking - if it tastes sweet, avoid it.

Bread is made from grains - so you need to cut out as much as you can. Forget about white bread altogether ... switch to Rye bread and/or Ryvita. If you need a slice of bread every now and again, at least opt for wholemeal and limit yourself to maybe one slice every 3 days. - General rule... the less refined the grain, the harder it will be for your system to process the food and to access the sugar in it... which is what you want to achieve.

Rice - switch to brown rice. White rice is pure starch ... and starch turns to sugar. Brown rice in small quantities is ok. It's the same principle as above. Brown rice is less processed, and therefore the body will have to do the work and it is harder to access the sugar in it.

Pasta - again... switch to wholemeal pasta and only eat it in small quantities.

In my view - because this has to become a way of life and not just a short lived diet, it would be unrealistic to forbid absolutely everything. It will only lead to failure. But it is equally dangerous to take this as an excuse for eating forbidden fruits. I feel it is best to apply common sense, and re-educate our taste buds. You don't need to starve yourself, because everything you 'want' is full of sugar, but instead substitute what you can't have with something equally pleasurable. Also, you'd become a sociale bore if every time you go out or are invited for a meal you keep saying, I can't eat this, that and the rest...

Alcohol - really sorry.... but that's a big No-No. Having said that - on very special occasions I allow myself ONE (moderate) glass of wine or Champagne. But on the rare occasion when I do, it has to be the very best of the best. I would not break my rule for just any old bottle. I make it a special time and savour the moment.

Beer - forget it. I say this with a tear in my eye, as I love my lager or cider ... but beer is particularly bad for Candida sufferers, so just forget it exists (

Soft drinks - forget them too - they are full of sugar. Opting for the sugar free version is no good either. They are full of aspartame (which is part of rat poison btw) and that is carcogenic.

Water - learn to love it ))) You need lots of it - about 1 1/2 - 2 litres per day.

Fruit - that's a difficult one. It would be best to avoid all fruit for the first couple of months, and thereafter to add it into the diet in moderation, avoiding tropical fruit (too sweet) and sticking to apples, pears and the less sweet berries. For me... this is my weakness and a luxury I allow myself. I can't live without fruit. So I am eating it. But I am sensible about it and have reduced my fruit intake. When I need something sweet, I usually butter a slice of ryvita or two and thinly slice a small banana on top - not good, I know, but this is part of being realistic to my mind. - Caution... avoid dried fruits at all cost... they are pure sugar.

Everything you eat should be as fresh as possible. Avoid take-aways and all ready made meals - both are full of sugar. Use fresh ingredients wherever you can. Make soups yourself, so you'll know what's in them. - Have fresh salads for lunch... just because you can't have sugar does not mean that you have to starve yourself. - It's difficult to list every little thing you have to avoid, just use common sense - cheeses, milk products (except for plain yoghurt), pizza's, chocolates and alcohol are out, but there are good tasting substitutes. Instead of milk you can use unsweetened rice milk or unsweetened soya milk (although soya is not good for the thyroid).

For me a typical daily menu looks like that:

breakfast: 1 boiled egg, 2 slices of ryvita with butter and a cup of herbal tea or

a bowl of (oats) porridge cooked with rice milk or soya milk and added fruit for sweetness

snack: an apple or a pear, a handful of fresh (unsalted) organic nuts (unshelled is best..coz of mould!)

lunch: a bowl of porridge or a fresh mixed salad or a home made soup

afternoon tea: a slice of buttered ryvita with sliced banana and a cuppa

supper: a normal cooked meal, as usual. - sometimes I have "pudding" ;o) ... a bowl of plain yoghurt with fresh lemon juice and Stevia, adding a few fresh or frozen berries

As you see... I do not starve myself. I try to eat a bowl of porridge at some stage every day. It fills me up, gives me energy, and because it is a cooked cereal, it somehow is ok. My tongue does not fur up after eating that nor do my teeth - and for me this is a good measure of how my system copes. - The good news is that on this kind of "diet" I have lost quite a bit of weight without even trying. Instead of having the gratification of instant pleasure from eating chocolates, nowadays I have the lasting pleasure of rewarding myself with a new piece of clothing very now and again when I have lost yet another bit of excess weight. I have slowly regained (and am keeping) the weight I had as a young woman... and I am not even trying ;o))

As Sheila says - also read the excellent info in the files about Candida. Other than the "diet" you will need to take fluconazole as outlined by Dr. P. (150 mg per week for 3 consecutive weeks) - and this may need to be repeated a few times. *I* do 3 weeks "on" - 4-5 weeks "off" fluconazole. You also need to take Bio-Acidophilus every day and use as many natural 'antifungals' in your diet as possible.

I hope this helps - and chin up ... I promise you, there is life after sugar ))

Love,

[Guest guest]

Hi

This is excellent and worthy of adding to our list of Candida information in our Files. Can you do this or would you like me to upload it?

Luv - Sheila

Re: Re: Candida "spit" test

Hello Anne,

Anti-Candida diet.... it will be hard - no two ways about it. It will have to become a way of life, as there is no quick fix nor will it be over in a couple of months. Even if at first you succeed, the moment you go back to your "normal" way of eating, the Candida will come back with a vengeance. Been there several times, tried all the shortcuts - its a waste of time. If you want this to work, the first thing you need to do is to adjust your mind and from now on regard sugar in all shapes, forms and disguises as your enemy No.1. Sugar is a poison and it is everywhere ! You won't be able to avoid it totally, but you need to avoid any obvious and added sugars. Carbohydrates is a bit of a minefield (a big part of carbs turns into sugar in your body).... but carbs in your diet are necessary. So you need to be sensible. I am no nutritionist, and apart from the obvious ones like grains etc, I don't always know what is what. But generally speaking - if it tastes sweet, avoid it.

Bread is made from grains - so you need to cut out as much as you can. Forget about white bread altogether ... switch to Rye bread and/or Ryvita. If you need a slice of bread every now and again, at least opt for wholemeal and limit yourself to maybe one slice every 3 days. - General rule... the less refined the grain, the harder it will be for your system to process the food and to access the sugar in it... which is what you want to achieve.

Rice - switch to brown rice. White rice is pure starch ... and starch turns to sugar. Brown rice in small quantities is ok. It's the same principle as above. Brown rice is less processed, and therefore the body will have to do the work and it is harder to access the sugar in it.

Pasta - again... switch to wholemeal pasta and only eat it in small quantities.

In my view - because this has to become a way of life and not just a short lived diet, it would be unrealistic to forbid absolutely everything. It will only lead to failure. But it is equally dangerous to take this as an excuse for eating forbidden fruits. I feel it is best to apply common sense, and re-educate our taste buds. You don't need to starve yourself, because everything you 'want' is full of sugar, but instead substitute what you can't have with something equally pleasurable. Also, you'd become a sociale bore if every time you go out or are invited for a meal you keep saying, I can't eat this, that and the rest...

Alcohol - really sorry.... but that's a big No-No. Having said that - on very special occasions I allow myself ONE (moderate) glass of wine or Champagne. But on the rare occasion when I do, it has to be the very best of the best. I would not break my rule for just any old bottle. I make it a special time and savour the moment.

Beer - forget it. I say this with a tear in my eye, as I love my lager or cider ... but beer is particularly bad for Candida sufferers, so just forget it exists (

Soft drinks - forget them too - they are full of sugar. Opting for the sugar free version is no good either. They are full of aspartame (which is part of rat poison btw) and that is carcogenic.

Water - learn to love it ))) You need lots of it - about 1 1/2 - 2 litres per day.

Fruit - that's a difficult one. It would be best to avoid all fruit for the first couple of months, and thereafter to add it into the diet in moderation, avoiding tropical fruit (too sweet) and sticking to apples, pears and the less sweet berries. For me... this is my weakness and a luxury I allow myself. I can't live without fruit. So I am eating it. But I am sensible about it and have reduced my fruit intake. When I need something sweet, I usually butter a slice of ryvita or two and thinly slice a small banana on top - not good, I know, but this is part of being realistic to my mind. - Caution... avoid dried fruits at all cost... they are pure sugar.

Everything you eat should be as fresh as possible. Avoid take-aways and all ready made meals - both are full of sugar. Use fresh ingredients wherever you can. Make soups yourself, so you'll know what's in them. - Have fresh salads for lunch... just because you can't have sugar does not mean that you have to starve yourself. - It's difficult to list every little thing you have to avoid, just use common sense - cheeses, milk products (except for plain yoghurt), pizza's, chocolates and alcohol are out, but there are good tasting substitutes. Instead of milk you can use unsweetened rice milk or unsweetened soya milk (although soya is not good for the thyroid).

For me a typical daily menu looks like that:

breakfast: 1 boiled egg, 2 slices of ryvita with butter and a cup of herbal tea or

a bowl of (oats) porridge cooked with rice milk or soya milk and added fruit for sweetness

snack: an apple or a pear, a handful of fresh (unsalted) organic nuts (unshelled is best..coz of mould!)

lunch: a bowl of porridge or a fresh mixed salad or a home made soup

afternoon tea: a slice of buttered ryvita with sliced banana and a cuppa

supper: a normal cooked meal, as usual. - sometimes I have "pudding" ;o) ... a bowl of plain yoghurt with fresh lemon juice and Stevia, adding a few fresh or frozen berries

As you see... I do not starve myself. I try to eat a bowl of porridge at some stage every day. It fills me up, gives me energy, and because it is a cooked cereal, it somehow is ok. My tongue does not fur up after eating that nor do my teeth - and for me this is a good measure of how my system copes. - The good news is that on this kind of "diet" I have lost quite a bit of weight without even trying. Instead of having the gratification of instant pleasure from eating chocolates, nowadays I have the lasting pleasure of rewarding myself with a new piece of clothing very now and again when I have lost yet another bit of excess weight. I have slowly regained (and am keeping) the weight I had as a young woman... and I am not even trying ;o))

As Sheila says - also read the excellent info in the files about Candida. Other than the "diet" you will need to take fluconazole as outlined by Dr. P. (150 mg per week for 3 consecutive weeks) - and this may need to be repeated a few times. *I* do 3 weeks "on" - 4-5 weeks "off" fluconazole. You also need to take Bio-Acidophilus every day and use as many natural 'antifungals' in your diet as possible.

I hope this helps - and chin up ... I promise you, there is life after sugar ))

Love,

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[Guest guest]

Oh - thanks Sheila... I am pleased that you find it helpful. Would you upload it please - I'm not terribly technically minded ;o)

Thanks and love,

[Guest guest]

Tue Jan 20 00:12:56 2009.

The 'Spit Test' reveals a secret!

When you awake in the morning, before you put anything into your mouth, work up some saliva and spit in into a clear glass of water. Within 1-30 minutes, look in the glass. Your saliva should disperse. But, if there are strings coming down from your saliva, or if the water turned cloudy, or if your saliva sank to the bottom, YOU MAY HAVE A YEAST CONCERN!

The spit test is just a simple guideline. When you spit into a clean glass of water, look into the glass. You could see strings traveling down from your saliva. The water may have turned cloudy, there may be speckles suspended in the water, and the saliva may sink to the bottom. You may have a yeast concern. You may want to contact your physician for their input also.

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From: Sparks <sparketa@...>low dose naltrexone Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 3:05:51 PMSubject: [low dose naltrexone] Candida Spit Test

Could someone point me to this?> From: Gunn Dybfest <gunn.ingrid>> Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] LDN update> low dose naltrexone> Date: Wednesday, January 28, 2009, 3:01 PM> Thank you so much for writing this post, please, keep us> informed about your terrific experience! Good luck in> your further treatment! :-)> Friendly regards,> Ingrid > > > > >

____________ _________ _________ __> From: brynn2068 <brynn2068 (DOT) com>> low dose naltrexone> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 11:30:56 PM> Subject: [low dose naltrexone] LDN update> > Hi everyone, Back in October, I wrote into the group to get> some > ideas as to why the LDN had stopped working for me. I had> > terrific,overnight success at the start of August for my MS> > symptoms, began pool physical therapy because I was > feeling so good > and then went progressively downhill toward the end of> October. > Several of you suggested that I explore my Candida

levels> and also > look into the possibility of Lyme Disease. Well, I tested> positive > for Candida through the spit test and am clearing that up> through my > diet. But I really wanted to thank you! After seeking> out a Lyme > Literate doctor and getting my blood draws sent to Igenex,> I found > out last week that I DO HAVE LYME! The actual first Lyme> tests > showed one band so they were technically inconclusive, but> I tested > positive for several co-infections and my CD57 test, which> has a > normal range of about 150, was only 45! My doctor , who> is a > recovered Lymie hersef, very confidently said that I have> Lyme > issues. So, she changed my antibiotic to Mepron and> Zithromax to > tackle the co-infections first and she felt pretty strongly> that I

> should start feeling better in about three months. Once> the co-> infections are handled, we will move on to the Lyme. It> has been a > rather mind-blowing experience to realize that after> labeling myself > as having MS for ten years, that there might be a very real> > possibility that I have never had it in the first place! > I would > highly recommend viewing the results of " Lyme> Disease" on > youtube.com. She is a woman who had a positive MS MRI,> only to > discover that she did NOT have MS, but Lyme instead. I will> > certainly keep you all posted as to what kind of progress I> am > making, but thank you all so much for your knowledge. If> it weren't > for this forum, it never would have occurred to me to

look> into all > of this! Take care all! Brynn> > > ------------ --------- --------- ------> >