Guest guest Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 Hi Ming Could you tell us what symptoms occur from epsom salts and how quickly they occur after exposure to epsom salts and which test results indicates a deficiency of magnesium? I am not saying that I would know the answer to your question but a bit more info may help someone here to possibly give a more informed reply. Kenny > > Hi, > > > Recently my son is allergic to epsomsalt, however, his test result indicates a deficiency of magnesium. A friend told me he might be allergic to sulfate . and she also told me that dmsa contains sulfide. > If this is true, Does that mean my son can not use dmsa as chelator? > > > Thanks, > Ming > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 ===================== Posted through Grouply, the better way to access your like this one. http://www.grouply.com/?code=post Mercury does commonly block sulfur processes, since it is attracted to the hydroxyl radical, SH. So use of DMSA and NAC and such can cause problems for some. One way to check this is the Genova comprehensive liver detox test, checking for level of free cysteine and problems with the type 1 and type 2 detox systems. Another way is the Great Plains organic acid test, which I think also includes free cysteine level, as well as a lot of other things. Or you can just get a free cysteine test. If the free cysteine level is high, use of DMSA or NAC or DMPS or such are probably problematic. Have you tried oral chelators such as NCD (zeolite) or NDF or Pectasol CF (modified citrus pectin plus seaweed factors) These don't have the sulfur problem. I use IonCleanse/BioCleanse epsum salt/sea salt foot bath with ionizer. seems to be effective. What have others said about it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 Hi Ming I was wondering whether it may be worth trying a different brand of Epsom salts, are the ones that you are using USP or BP grade? If there is a an allergy to magnesium sulfate I think that DMSA would still be ok to use as I believe that the sulfate in Epsom salts is different to the sulfur in DMSA, but as with anything watch out for any adverse symptoms if you decide to use DMSA. Cheers Kenny > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > Recently my son is allergic to epsomsalt, however, his test result indicates a deficiency of magnesium. A friend told me he might be allergic to sulfate . and she also told me that dmsa contains sulfide. > > > If this is true, Does that mean my son can not use dmsa as chelator? > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Ming > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 Do you have a website where I can look at the products you mentioned? mary On 16/3/09 3:27 PM, " berniew11 " <berniew1@...> wrote: > > > > > > ===================== > Posted through Grouply, the better way > to access your like this one. > http://www.grouply.com/?code=post > Mercury does commonly block sulfur processes, since it is attracted to > the hydroxyl radical, SH. So use of DMSA and NAC and such can cause > problems for some. One way to check this is the Genova comprehensive > liver detox test, checking for level of free cysteine and problems with > the type 1 and type 2 detox systems. > Another way is the Great Plains organic acid test, which I think also > includes free cysteine level, as well as a lot of other things. > Or you can just get a free cysteine test. > If the free cysteine level is high, use of DMSA or NAC or DMPS or such > are probably problematic. > > Have you tried oral chelators such as NCD (zeolite) or NDF or Pectasol > CF (modified citrus pectin plus seaweed factors) > These don't have the sulfur problem. I use IonCleanse/BioCleanse epsum > salt/sea salt foot bath with ionizer. seems to be effective. What have > others said about it? > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 On 16/3/09 3:27 PM, " berniew11 " <berniew1@...> wrote: > > > > > > ===================== > Posted through Grouply, the better way > to access your like this one. > http://www.grouply.com/?code=post > Mercury does commonly block sulfur processes ===>True, a lot of mercury toxic people have trouble with sulfur. , since it is attracted to > the hydroxyl radical, SH. So use of DMSA and NAC and such can cause > problems for some. ===>True for NAC, false for Dmsa which does not participate in the part of the sulfur cycle we're dealing with. One way to check this is the Genova comprehensive > liver detox test, checking for level of free cysteine and problems with > the type 1 and type 2 detox systems. ===>I don't think this test is still available. > > Have you tried oral chelators such as NCD (zeolite) or NDF or Pectasol > CF (modified citrus pectin plus seaweed factors) > These don't have the sulfur problem. ===>They don't have the sulfur problem, but they don't chelate any metals either. So using them on chronically mercury or metal toxic kids is a waste of time and money. I use IonCleanse/BioCleanse epsum > salt/sea salt foot bath with ionizer. seems to be effective. What have > others said about it? > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 We have not tired any of these oral chelators you have mentioned. but my son is allergic to glutathion. I checked the chemical formula for glutathion, there is a S. so that is reason I start to suspect he is allergic to sulfur. > > > > > > ============ ========= > Posted through Grouply, the better way > to access your like this one. > http://www.grouply. com/?code= post > Mercury does commonly block sulfur processes ===>True, a lot of mercury toxic people have trouble with sulfur. , since it is attracted to > the hydroxyl radical, SH. So use of DMSA and NAC and such can cause > problems for some. ===>True for NAC, false for Dmsa which does not participate in the part of the sulfur cycle we're dealing with. One way to check this is the Genova comprehensive > liver detox test, checking for level of free cysteine and problems with > the type 1 and type 2 detox systems. ===>I don't think this test is still available. > > Have you tried oral chelators such as NCD (zeolite) or NDF or Pectasol > CF (modified citrus pectin plus seaweed factors) > These don't have the sulfur problem. ===>They don't have the sulfur problem, but they don't chelate any metals either. So using them on chronically mercury or metal toxic kids is a waste of time and money. I use IonCleanse/BioClean se epsum > salt/sea salt foot bath with ionizer. seems to be effective. What have > others said about it? > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 I'm not sure about ALA, but most of the chelators for Hg (mercury) have critical sulfer groups. All, or nearly all Hg in nature is bound by sulfer, so the idea behind chelating usually involves making active sulfer groups available for bonding to Hg. I won't say this is for sure, but I suspect that " allergic " reactions (MCS, multichemical sensitivity) may be one of the known symptoms of chelating Hg. There are minds here with more knowledge than mine, however, so speak up. I don't think that glutathione is considered a chelator, but it's important in natural detox and antioxidation. It has sulfer containing amino acids, and several essential amino acids contain sulfer, so sulfer is a vital constiuent in every cell. Alan Foos > > > > > > ============ ========= > Posted through Grouply, the better way > to access your like this one. > http://www.grouply. com/?code= post > Mercury does commonly block sulfur processes ===>True, a lot of mercury toxic people have trouble with sulfur. , since it is attracted to > the hydroxyl radical, SH. So use of DMSA and NAC and such can cause > problems for some. ===>True for NAC, false for Dmsa which does not participate in the part of the sulfur cycle we're dealing with. One way to check this is the Genova comprehensive > liver detox test, checking for level of free cysteine and problems with > the type 1 and type 2 detox systems. ===>I don't think this test is still available. > > Have you tried oral chelators such as NCD (zeolite) or NDF or Pectasol > CF (modified citrus pectin plus seaweed factors) > These don't have the sulfur problem. ===>They don't have the sulfur problem, but they don't chelate any metals either. So using them on chronically mercury or metal toxic kids is a waste of time and money. I use IonCleanse/BioClean se epsum > salt/sea salt foot bath with ionizer. seems to be effective. What have > others said about it? > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 I've been doing my own little survey on sulfa allergies, sorry, not sure if sulfa and sulfer are the same. Anyway....all like me so far that are terrible drinkers (any kind of alcoholic beverage) I've asked if allergic to sulfa meds. They've all said yes so far. This has come up in conversation with many a customer I speak to in the store. I work in a home store selling really cool glasses so hence the conversation on glasses and types. Anyway... Tammy [ ] Re: dmsa & epsomsalt I'm not sure about ALA, but most of the chelators for Hg (mercury) have critical sulfer groups. All, or nearly all Hg in nature is bound by sulfer, so the idea behind chelating usually involves making active sulfer groups available for bonding to Hg. I won't say this is for sure, but I suspect that " allergic " reactions (MCS, multichemical sensitivity) may be one of the known symptoms of chelating Hg. There are minds here with more knowledge than mine, however, so speak up. I don't think that glutathione is considered a chelator, but it's important in natural detox and antioxidation. It has sulfer containing amino acids, and several essential amino acids contain sulfer, so sulfer is a vital constiuent in every cell. Alan Foos > > > > > > ============ ========= > Posted through Grouply, the better way > to access your like this one. > http://www.grouply. com/?code= post > Mercury does commonly block sulfur processes ===>True, a lot of mercury toxic people have trouble with sulfur. , since it is attracted to > the hydroxyl radical, SH. So use of DMSA and NAC and such can cause > problems for some. ===>True for NAC, false for Dmsa which does not participate in the part of the sulfur cycle we're dealing with. One way to check this is the Genova comprehensive > liver detox test, checking for level of free cysteine and problems with > the type 1 and type 2 detox systems. ===>I don't think this test is still available. > > Have you tried oral chelators such as NCD (zeolite) or NDF or Pectasol > CF (modified citrus pectin plus seaweed factors) > These don't have the sulfur problem. ===>They don't have the sulfur problem, but they don't chelate any metals either. So using them on chronically mercury or metal toxic kids is a waste of time and money. I use IonCleanse/BioClean se epsum > salt/sea salt foot bath with ionizer. seems to be effective. What have > others said about it? > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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