Guest guest Posted April 2, 1999 Report Share Posted April 2, 1999 In a message dated 99-04-02 12:37:57 EST, you write: > They don't use sliver nitrate anyone. The drops are an antibiotic > Erythromycin. Some hospitals still use them I think. As an example, as of 2 years ago Staten Island University Hospital was still using the silver nitrate. NYS law says they can use either of the two or Tetracycline Cory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2009 Report Share Posted July 30, 2009 My son's GI wants me to try this at low doses to increase gastric dumping and help with reflux. Of course im nervous about adding an antibiotic at any strength. he does want me to beef up probiotics. Does anyone have any thoughts on this? Of course I forgot to ask him if there was a natural alterntative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 Just a fast reply ... Rod you had a C section ... wtf ? Ok ... high doses of erythromycin can cause cardiac arrest IV a documented fact and cases of contaminated antibiotics is not unheard of either ... but there are other lots of alternative antibiotic options for those with penn allergies. Third generation cephalosporin's just off the top of my head but why are you receiving antibiotics in the first place and why IV push, hell this is recipe to cause nasty phlebitis or worse. If your being treated in Greece .. do they not have C+S ? or is this a shotgun type thing profolaticly deal, I bet there is WAY more to this story. cheers Curious Wilf. erythromycin Hello all. I need a bit of help with this one: Any thoughts welcome: " I'm allergic to penicillin and in the UK I've always been given erythromycin tablets whenever I need antibiotics, so I always tell them to give me erythromycin here in Greece. After my c section I was on bottles of antibiotics through the drip - and 2 days running they injected a syringe of liquid erythromycin straight into the vein through the IV cannular thingy. Both times my throat immediately closed and I had a tickly coughing/choking fit and couldn't breathe and they got the doctor in (Was awful as the coughing really hurt my stitches, and I thought I was going to die there and then as I couldn't breathe ) A few seconds after they had injected all the drug into the vein, the coughing and choking stopped. At first they thought it was just a coincidental coughing fit, but when the same thing happened the next day they said I obviously was having a reaction. They couldn't understand why I seemed to have an allergic reaction to it when I take erythromycin all the time for throat/ear infections etc. They changed my antibiotics and it never happened again. What do you reckon? was that an allergic reaction or just my body not liking a big amount of drugs going into my vein in one go??? Does it mean I'm allergic to erythromycin in liquid form? Your expert opinion please " ! Cheers Rod I am proud to support The Poppy Appeal Click here to get your PoppE and support the Poppy Appeal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 I believe he was quoting a patient. The problem with quoting patients is that they're rarely doctors. (no offense meant.) Alyssa Woods, NREMT-B (210) 842-6428 Sent from the itty bitty keyboard on my iPhone On Dec 30, 2010, at 2:23 AM, " Wilf Mackie " <w.mackie@...> wrote: > Just a fast reply ... Rod you had a C section ... wtf ? > > Ok ... high doses of erythromycin can cause cardiac arrest IV a documented fact and cases of contaminated antibiotics is not unheard of either ... but there are other lots of alternative antibiotic options for those with penn allergies. Third generation cephalosporin's just off the top of my head but why are you receiving antibiotics in the first place and why IV push, hell this is recipe to cause nasty phlebitis or worse. If your being treated in Greece .. do they not have C+S ? or is this a shotgun type thing profolaticly deal, I bet there is WAY more to this story. > > cheers > > Curious Wilf. > > erythromycin > > Hello all. > I need a bit of help with this one: Any thoughts welcome: > > " I'm allergic to penicillin and in the UK I've always been given > erythromycin tablets whenever I need antibiotics, so I always tell them to > give me erythromycin here in Greece. > After my c section I was on bottles of antibiotics through the drip - and 2 > days running they injected a syringe of liquid erythromycin straight into > the vein through the IV cannular thingy. > Both times my throat immediately closed and I had a tickly coughing/choking > fit and couldn't breathe and they got the doctor in (Was awful as the > coughing really hurt my stitches, and I thought I was going to die there and > then as I couldn't breathe ) > A few seconds after they had injected all the drug into the vein, the > coughing and choking stopped. > At first they thought it was just a coincidental coughing fit, but when the > same thing happened the next day they said I obviously was having a > reaction. They couldn't understand why I seemed to have an allergic reaction > to it when I take erythromycin all the time for throat/ear infections etc. > They changed my antibiotics and it never happened again. What do you reckon? > was that an allergic reaction or just my body not liking a big amount of > drugs going into my vein in one go??? > Does it mean I'm allergic to erythromycin in liquid form? Your expert > opinion please " ! > > Cheers > > Rod > > I am proud to support The Poppy Appeal > Click here to get your PoppE and support the Poppy Appeal > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 greetings.. Ive actually seen this same thing happen with benadryl & was told that its because of the body not being used to the higher concentration iv form & reacting to that alone. Kind of like being dunked in cold water. Your body seizes up for a second & then calms right back down. It's a type of hypersensitivity but usually not dangerous because it genrally only last a few seconds & then subsides. Good Luck!! On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 10:02 AM, Rod Eglin <rod.eglin@...> wrote: > > > Hello all. > I need a bit of help with this one: Any thoughts welcome: > > " I'm allergic to penicillin and in the UK I've always been given > erythromycin tablets whenever I need antibiotics, so I always tell them to > give me erythromycin here in Greece. > After my c section I was on bottles of antibiotics through the drip - and 2 > > days running they injected a syringe of liquid erythromycin straight into > the vein through the IV cannular thingy. > Both times my throat immediately closed and I had a tickly coughing/choking > > fit and couldn't breathe and they got the doctor in (Was awful as the > coughing really hurt my stitches, and I thought I was going to die there > and > then as I couldn't breathe ) > A few seconds after they had injected all the drug into the vein, the > coughing and choking stopped. > At first they thought it was just a coincidental coughing fit, but when the > > same thing happened the next day they said I obviously was having a > reaction. They couldn't understand why I seemed to have an allergic > reaction > to it when I take erythromycin all the time for throat/ear infections etc. > They changed my antibiotics and it never happened again. What do you > reckon? > was that an allergic reaction or just my body not liking a big amount of > drugs going into my vein in one go??? > Does it mean I'm allergic to erythromycin in liquid form? Your expert > opinion please " ! > > Cheers > > Rod > > I am proud to support The Poppy Appeal > Click here to get your PoppE and support the Poppy Appeal > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 ----- Original Message ----- From: " Larry Torrey " <ltorrey@...> > > And I believe that Wilf was pulling Rod's leg. > > Again. No change there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2011 Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 I know I'm a little late, but I want to weigh in on this. Although it goes in one ear and out the other for many of them, the nurse in me tries to educate patients when questions like this, rather than simply give them a 'yes or no' answer. If more of them (and providers too) understood a little of the microbiology behind these things, we'd have more intelligent use of antibiotics, and less overuse/resistance. Patients should be made to understand there is no such thing as an antibiotic that 'works for me' or 'doesn't work for me'. Antibiotics work on bacteria, not on the host body. There is no 'good' or 'bad' or 'weak' or 'strong' antibiotic. There is only the antibiotic that is specific for the bacteria you are managing, and those that are not. Every case is going to be different, so it is important that patients not get into a mindset that they need -- or don't need -- a specific antibiotic every time they need one. Antibiotic sensitivity is generally a progressive reaction. So, just because you have taken a specific antibiotic in the past with no noted reaction, it does not mean that you will not in the future. The immune system gets progressively more pissed off every time it encounters a substance it does not like. Consequently, it may be the sixth time you've taken it before you notice a significant reaction. Also, route of administration does play a part in the reaction. Erythromycin absorbed by the GI tract, and mediated by digestive enzymes over time, is very well likely to be better tolerated than erythromycin injected IV. Regardless, although we don't like to toss out perfectly good antibiotic options without good cause, the reaction this patient relates would indeed be one that would cause me to note a future contraindication on his or her record. It is indeed possible that the body, although sensitive to the erythromycin, was able to moderate the hypersensitivity response before it progressed into full-blown anaphylaxis. The natural, homeostatic nature of the body can cause this, and it's a good thing. But I certainly wouldn't expect it to get better with subsequent administrations, even though it might. That's a risk I certainly wouldn't want to take, and especially in a remote environment. Of course, I'm just a nurse. And I too thought Rod was talking about himself, so my observations may be suspect! Cheers! Rob RN, EMT-P, BS, BSc On Wednesday, December 29, 2010 12:02, " Rod Eglin " <rod.eglin@...> said: > Hello all. > I need a bit of help with this one: Any thoughts welcome: > > " I'm allergic to penicillin and in the UK I've always been given > erythromycin tablets whenever I need antibiotics, so I always tell them to > give me erythromycin here in Greece. > After my c section I was on bottles of antibiotics through the drip - and 2 > days running they injected a syringe of liquid erythromycin straight into > the vein through the IV cannular thingy. > Both times my throat immediately closed and I had a tickly coughing/choking > fit and couldn't breathe and they got the doctor in (Was awful as the > coughing really hurt my stitches, and I thought I was going to die there and > then as I couldn't breathe ) > A few seconds after they had injected all the drug into the vein, the > coughing and choking stopped. > At first they thought it was just a coincidental coughing fit, but when the > same thing happened the next day they said I obviously was having a > reaction. They couldn't understand why I seemed to have an allergic reaction > to it when I take erythromycin all the time for throat/ear infections etc. > They changed my antibiotics and it never happened again. What do you reckon? > was that an allergic reaction or just my body not liking a big amount of > drugs going into my vein in one go??? > Does it mean I'm allergic to erythromycin in liquid form? Your expert > opinion please " ! > > Cheers > > Rod > > > > I am proud to support The Poppy Appeal > Click here to get your PoppE and support the Poppy Appeal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Rob, many thanks for that, good info! With regard to the mail I sent, the more observant of you will have noticed the quotation marks at the beginning. If you did not, do not apply for a job with MI6. So no, I have not had a 'C' section lol Subject: RE: erythromycin >I know I'm a little late, but I want to weigh in on this. And I too thought Rod was talking about himself, so my observations may be suspect! > Rob > RN, EMT-P, BS, BSc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 that's good news that you didn't have a C-section Rod but you should be sterilized LOL Tom From: rod.eglin@... Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 11:46:41 +0000 Subject: Re: erythromycin Rob, many thanks for that, good info! With regard to the mail I sent, the more observant of you will have noticed the quotation marks at the beginning. If you did not, do not apply for a job with MI6. So no, I have not had a 'C' section lol Subject: RE: erythromycin >I know I'm a little late, but I want to weigh in on this. And I too thought Rod was talking about himself, so my observations may be suspect! > Rob > RN, EMT-P, BS, BSc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Dear Rod: Please provide the career application form or link for MI6, or do they still require proof of a high school graduation ? Yes agreed great info from an Murse ++++ and just where were you when I was working on movie sets, good grief what a demanding bunch of whiners. I am typically inundated with the very misinformed Neanderthal that " viral URTI " is treatable with antibiotics and " why will you not give me some any you gave that other guy some " your mean and a terrible medic and I want my mommy. Ok clown he had an abscessed molar and its very close to his brain and he is bacterial ! DUH. Just and try to explain VRE or MRSA or why and with the discovery of penicillin years ago, it only a couple thousand units to terminate " the drip " and now 5 million per dose is average with pen G (that's if its not resistant) Very seriously this " education " of not generating super bugs is one of my biggest challenges in remote settings. cheers Wilf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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