Guest guest Posted May 26, 2006 Report Share Posted May 26, 2006 Hi , What is zeolite? Love, Pamela <osiris20672002@...> wrote: Have you checked into a product called Destroxin? It has way more zeolite in it than the Natural Cellular Defense. It is also way cheaper. While I was doing my research in to the Natural Cellular Defense I read many of their Research Studies. I found that the zeolite in the studies was a powder not a "changed" liquid ie the NCD. Powdered zeolite seemed to be the answer at least according to the studies. I bought 2 bottles of Destroxin ( 90 capsules) for the price of one bottle of the NCD (300 drops per bottle) The NCD has 24mg of zeolite and the Destroxin has 800 mg as well as some calcuim and B12. Oh yea if you order 2 bottles from the manufacture you get a free book on zeolite. ( I missed that because i ordered it from a distributor! if it helps I will then order from the manufacture next time.) I just started my Destroxin will keep you posted! Hope that everyone is doing great. Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 Every person is different. Not everyone tests positively to zeolite. Test the product on the QX to see how the child scores or muscle test. Zeolite (or any other product) is not a one size fits all. is Rotella, M.Ac., CNC > > Its safe to give Zeolite to a 3 years old child who take lots of drugs > for a neumococus? > > > Thanks in advance > > Jesus > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2007 Report Share Posted May 2, 2007 Ira, that was good information you sent about zeolite. I was not aware that it was sold in any other form than liquid or in bulk. That could be quite a money saver for those who need it. Going to look into this for sure and I for one am glad you posted this information. Steph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2007 Report Share Posted August 1, 2007 Dee, the zeolite is most likely equivalent, within a range. Zeolite is a type of clay called montmorillonite, Bentonite or green clay, which is found all over the world and which which is composed mainly of aluminum silicate. Because they are sedimentary, alluvial in nature, Bentonites naturally have varying properties just as gravel bars do. Bentonite is one of the foremost remedies for toxin removal; its ionic charge traps toxin molecules on the way out the chute. Not to say those toxins in the chute are not ALREADY on their way out, but that's another story. Me, I favour activated charcoal over Bentonite. I have never seen satisfactory documentation, even from the marketers. Duncan > > Has anyone tried this product from Natural Zeolite as opposed to the Natural Cellular Defense from Waiora (spelling) it is a lot cheaper and claims to be as good. Dee > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2007 Report Share Posted August 2, 2007 How much is it and wher can i buy it? I have Natural Cellular Denfense with I paid over $100.00 for >From: " Dee " <dee@...> >Reply-candidiasis ><silver-list@...>, <candidiasis > >Subject: Zeolite >Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 19:10:22 +0100 (GMT Standard Time) > >Has anyone tried this product from Natural Zeolite as opposed to the >Natural Cellular Defense from Waiora (spelling) it is a lot cheaper and >claims to be as good. Dee _________________________________________________________________ More photos, more messages, more storage—get 2GB with Windows Live Hotmail. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us & ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM\ _mini_2G_0507 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2007 Report Share Posted August 2, 2007 http://www.liquidzeolitecompany.com/?gclid=CK7k78LG140CFQtWMAodTBGQYA This is the URL. Dee -- RE: Zeolite How much is it and wher can I buy it? I have Natural Cellular Denfense with I paid over $100.00 for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2007 Report Share Posted August 2, 2007 Thanks for that Duncan; I had thought this preparation would be good for de-toxing mercury as I have a number of broken amalgum fillings. Dee -- Re: Zeolite Dee, the zeolite is most likely equivalent, within a range. Zeolite Is a type of clay called montmorillonite, Bentonite or green clay, Which is found all over the world and which which is composed mainly Of aluminum silicate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2007 Report Share Posted August 2, 2007 Dee, no data has surfaced to back up the rather extravagent marketing claim that zeolite is absorbed into the lymph or the cells; most of the marketers stop short and infer it's absorbed in the text, then refine the statement by saying it's absorbed as a mineral supplement. I've been using montmorillonite clay, a form of Bentonite and zeolite, as a mineral supplement for years, at a cost of about $6 a bottle. The more you think about it the shadier the marketing seems. Mineral absorption into the body, then into the cells, has to be tightly controlled in order that you don't go ahead and absorb the clay bed and then die. If the montmorillonite was not being selectively absorbed as a mineral supplement, if that, it would probably kill you fairly quickly. For example, it's almost half aluminum. Therefore it's inexcusable to go ahead and say that other than a possible mineral supplement and bowel toxin trapper, it has any actual function in the body. Duncan > > http://www.liquidzeolitecompany.com/? gclid=CK7k78LG140CFQtWMAodTBGQYA > > > > This is the URL. Dee > > > > -- RE: Zeolite > > > > How much is it and wher can I buy it? I have Natural Cellular Denfense with > > I paid over $100.00 for > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2007 Report Share Posted August 2, 2007 Thanks again Duncan. Makes you wonder how they manage to get away with it doesn't it? Dee -- Re: Zeolite The more you think about it the shadier the marketing seems. Mineral Absorption into the body, then into the cells, has to be tightly Controlled in order that you don't go ahead and absorb the clay bed And then die. If the montmorillonite was not being selectively Absorbed as a mineral supplement, if that, it would probably kill you Fairly quickly. For example, it's almost half aluminum. Therefore it's inexcusable to go ahead and say that other than a possible Mineral supplement and bowel toxin trapper, it has any actual Function in the body. Duncan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2007 Report Share Posted August 2, 2007 Claims are a dime a dozen. Waiora owns the patent to activate the zeolite. There are numerous doctors who understand the science that work with this product and are seeing excellent results. Since Waiora has introduced Natural Cellular Defense there have been at least a dozen copycat companies who sell what is basically crushed zeolite in water. You may as well buy a bag of zeolite that is meant for farm animals. It will be a lot cheaper. To pay for crushed zeolite in water is extremely expensive and a major rip-off. The powdered form will help with alkalinity and with nutrient absorption but it doesn't have the same detoxification properties. My daughter, who had migraines due to chronic meningitis due to mercury in the brain almost every day of her life was rid of them within days using the NCD. None of the other tens of thousands of dollars worth of therapies and products I tried on her worked like this. As of yet, I haven't heard of one single person reporting results with the copycat products (not for lack of asking, I've actually encouraged people to try it and let me know the results) but I hear remarkable experiences almost daily with NCD. If you want to know the science of this, write me off-list and I will put you in touch with a health care practitioner who would be happy to do so. Zeolite works in a physical manner, not a metabolic one and is a quite unique product, not really a supplement at all. Doing urine challenge tests is a way to see how a product works. NCD has shown itself time and again to remove toxins. If you want to buy cheaper products ask for the science and the test results. A typical cleanse for the average sized person will cost $100 for a months supply. For a severely ill person it will be more (or less for some that need to build up slowly). Sharon > > Has anyone tried this product from Natural Zeolite as opposed to the Natural Cellular Defense from Waiora (spelling) it is a lot cheaper and claims to be as good. Dee > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2007 Report Share Posted August 2, 2007 Hi Sharon, thanks for this. I wonder if you could look at the website for this product Natural Zeolite, because it compares it side by side with the Natural Cellular Defence and the NCD comes out wanting. Dee -- Re: Zeolite Claims are a dime a dozen. Waiora owns the patent to activate the Zeolite. There are numerous doctors who understand the science that Work with this product and are seeing excellent results. Since Waiora Has introduced Natural Cellular Defense there have been at least a Dozen copycat companies who sell what is basically crushed zeolite in Water. You may as well buy a bag of zeolite that is meant for farm Animals. It will be a lot cheaper. To pay for crushed zeolite in Water is extremely expensive and a major rip-off. The powdered form Will help with alkalinity and with nutrient absorption but it doesn't Have the same detoxification properties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2007 Report Share Posted August 2, 2007 Dee, whatever you choose for detoxing mercury, normalizing inulin intake should be part of it for at least two more reasons. Inulin feeds probiotic bowel bacteria that exude fatty acids that curb other bacteria including those that produce sulfide gases. Sulfides can re-introduce any mercury coming down the pipe back into the bowel lining, impairing biological function. Obviously, reducing sulfides is wise, particularly if there is thought to be mercury present. The fatty acids (acetate, butyrate, and proprionate) also feed the intestinal lining cells, which produce an enzyme that breaks down the sulfides on the bowel lining. Duncan > > Thanks for that Duncan; I had thought this preparation would be good for > de-toxing mercury as I have a number of broken amalgum fillings. Dee > > > > -- Re: Zeolite > > > > Dee, the zeolite is most likely equivalent, within a range. Zeolite > > Is a type of clay called montmorillonite, Bentonite or green clay, > > Which is found all over the world and which which is composed mainly > > Of aluminum silicate. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2007 Report Share Posted August 2, 2007 Hi Duncan, What brand of Bentonite Clay do you recommend? I'm using a more expensive brand and would like to pay less. Also, what do you think of the information that bentonite clay causes an imbalance in potassium? Also some sources say that many Bentonite Clay supplements come from areas that have toxins in the soil. Luv, Debby San , CA 380/237/180 --- Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...> wrote: > Dee, no data has surfaced to back up the rather > extravagent marketing > claim that zeolite is absorbed into the lymph or the > cells; most of > the marketers stop short and infer it's absorbed in ------------- The chief cause of failure and unhappiness is trading what you want most for what you want now. -- Zig Ziglar New group! Curing Candida: curingcandida/ My son Hunter Hudson (10/11/04) http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2007 Report Share Posted August 2, 2007 Can you provide a link please? Sharon > > Hi Sharon, thanks for this. I wonder if you could look at the website for > this product Natural Zeolite, because it compares it side by side with the > Natural Cellular Defence and the NCD comes out wanting. Dee > > > > -- Re: Zeolite > > > > Claims are a dime a dozen. Waiora owns the patent to activate the > > Zeolite. There are numerous doctors who understand the science that > > Work with this product and are seeing excellent results. Since Waiora > > Has introduced Natural Cellular Defense there have been at least a > > Dozen copycat companies who sell what is basically crushed zeolite in > > Water. You may as well buy a bag of zeolite that is meant for farm > > Animals. It will be a lot cheaper. To pay for crushed zeolite in > > Water is extremely expensive and a major rip-off. The powdered form > > Will help with alkalinity and with nutrient absorption but it doesn't > > Have the same detoxification properties. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2007 Report Share Posted August 3, 2007 Here it is, sorry I put it in another email and forgot this one! Dee http://www.liquidzeolitecompany.com/?gclid=CPbJrJP12I0CFQqfHgodQRPUcQ -- Re: Zeolite Can you provide a link please? Sharon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2007 Report Share Posted August 3, 2007 Thanks again Duncan, I do use inulin but keep forgetting! Dee -- Re: Zeolite Dee, whatever you choose for detoxing mercury, normalizing inulin Intake should be part of it for at least two more reasons. Inulin feeds probiotic bowel bacteria that exude fatty acids that Curb other bacteria including those that produce sulfide gases. Sulfides can re-introduce any mercury coming down the pipe back into The bowel lining, impairing biological function. Obviously, reducing Sulfides is wise, particularly if there is thought to be mercury Present. The fatty acids (acetate, butyrate, and proprionate) also feed the Intestinal lining cells, which produce an enzyme that breaks down the Sulfides on the bowel lining. Duncan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2007 Report Share Posted August 3, 2007 An understandable and thorough explanation of mineral absorption through the lymph, extracellular matrix and cell membranes is Haltiwanger M.D.'s Electrical Properties of Cancer Cells. A thorough understanding of the mechanism by which minerals are made available in ionic form in the Lymph and ECM for transfer across cell membranes in a controlled manner, will dispel any myths about mineral absorption that's not in balance, in which cell function is disrupted and the cell dies. http://royalrife.com/haltiwanger.html Duncan > > Here it is, sorry I put it in another email and forgot this one! Dee > http://www.liquidzeolitecompany.com/? gclid=CPbJrJP12I0CFQqfHgodQRPUcQ > > > > -- Re: Zeolite > > > > Can you provide a link please? > > > > Sharon > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2007 Report Share Posted August 4, 2007 Did you say 'understandable?' if you are a scientist I suppose so! Interesting though, very. Dee -- Re: Zeolite An understandable and thorough explanation of mineral absorption Through the lymph, extracellular matrix and cell membranes is Haltiwanger M.D.'s Electrical Properties of Cancer Cells. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2007 Report Share Posted August 5, 2007 Dee, I don't see any science or proof of their claims. It's a company who sells a product on ebay so I doubt they will offer any followup or service along with it but I would certainly ask them to back up all the claims they make on the site. I'm not a biochemist but it seems to me there are at least a couple of inaccuracies there. Zeolite doesn't need humic acid or anything else to make it work. Looks to me as if they are trying to mislead people into believing that but I could be wrong. I would be wary of any company who puts down a product that has worked so well for so many people. I personally don't buy stuff from sites like this. I like to see the science behind it. To sell a product by criticizing another one is not really good marketing. If you try it please let us know your results. Waiora's product is the only zeolite that's patented and it comes with a 30 day no questions, money-back guarantee so you don't have anything to lose. I joined this group long before I tried the zeolite but certain issues like my daughter's chronic inflammation of the brain due to mercury and frequent, almost daily migraines prompted me to learn about it and add it to my protocol. Within about a week of taking the zeolite her migraines were gone and now, almost a year later have not returned. She did the cleanse for a month. Neither of us has had any reoccurance of candida, even when not taking our probiotic superfood which is also part of my daily routine (most days anyway). With the mercury gone, my daughter doesn't need it anymore either. I suggest you listen to Dr. Lyn Hanshew talk about zeolite on my website: www.ncdpro.com/detoxqueen. Just press play on the recording. I've met with Dr. Lyn personally and have recommended her protocols to many people who have had success with them. You can also order a DVD from her website called Why is Everyone so Sick: www.drlyndvd.com. The Chicago Health Freedom Expo also sells the presentation that she did there in May on DVD. She takes very complex issues and really simplifies it so anyone can understand. It's a real eye-opener for most people. Sharon > > Here it is, sorry I put it in another email and forgot this one! Dee > http://www.liquidzeolitecompany.com/?gclid=CPbJrJP12I0CFQqfHgodQRPUcQ > > > > -- Re: Zeolite > > > > Can you provide a link please? > > > > Sharon > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2007 Report Share Posted August 5, 2007 Thanks for that Sharon, and it will have a look at that site. One thing I wonder about is, if the LiquidZeolite claims are not true, why the Waiori people don't refute it. Or maybe they have somewhere else, or even don't know about the other company's claims. Dee -- Re: Zeolite Dee, I don't see any science or proof of their claims. It's a company who Sells a product on ebay so I doubt they will offer any followup or Service along with it but I would certainly ask them to back up all The claims they make on the site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2007 Report Share Posted August 5, 2007 I am not sure about this Sharon, as I have read both lots of blurb and they are after all, both trying to sell a product. I have however, managed to get some of the Waiori on ebay for a reasonable cost so will give it a try and let you know how I get on. I may at a later date, try the other one also for comparison. There is nothing like trying things out on oneself to get a true result I feel. Dee -- Re: Zeolite Dee, I don't see any science or proof of their claims. It's a company who Sells a product on ebay so I doubt they will offer any followup or Service along with it but I would certainly ask them to back up all The claims they make on the site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 Wow, thanks Duncan. Look like excellent articles. Now to see if i can understand them <smiles> will dispel any myths about mineral > absorption that's not in balance, in which cell function is disrupted > and the cell dies. > > http://royalrife.com/haltiwanger.html > > Duncan > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2007 Report Share Posted September 12, 2007 Zeolite is a kind of montmorillonite clay very similar to bentonite; here's a link to some information on how it absorbs minerals in reclamation sites: http://tinyurl.com/2qvmqj Duncan > > has anyone tried it or any info. i got this product called candyclear > 5 7 it is supposed to do alot of things but it contains zeolite & i am > not sure if this is saf. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2007 Report Share Posted September 12, 2007 HI Duncan, thank you so much. i am new here & it seems like you have a lot of knowledge & info regarding cnadia. do you know if taking zeolite is safe? when i looked it up , there were 2 articles that they sadi do not take zeolite. it causes cancer. is it any good for candida & do you happen to know the products from candia-yeast-infection-relief .com any good ? thanks again Shar cancrow@...> wrote: Zeolite is a kind of montmorillonite clay very similar to bentonite; here's a link to some information on how it absorbs minerals in reclamation sites: http://tinyurl.com/2qvmqj Duncan > > has anyone tried it or any info. i got this product called candyclear > 5 7 it is supposed to do alot of things but it contains zeolite & i am > not sure if this is saf. > --------------------------------- oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2007 Report Share Posted September 13, 2007 I believe zeolite is safe as any montmorillonite clay to eat, yes. Duncan > > > > has anyone tried it or any info. i got this product called > candyclear > > 5 7 it is supposed to do alot of things but it contains zeolite & i > am > > not sure if this is saf. > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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