Dark Circles

[Guest guest]

Dear :

With the artificial tears and the flaxseed oil, are your eyelids still puffy?

How many flaxseed oil did you take per day?

Thanks

Pam

[Guest guest]

" What are the symptoms and signs of thyroid eye disease?

Patients with Graves’ disease may have a variety of eye symptoms that are not

always recognized right away as features of a thyroid disorder:

Protrusion of one or both eyeballs.

Puffy, swollen eyelids.

Gritty, burning, irritated eyes that frequently water.

Diplopia (double vision).

Decreased vision, often following reduced brightness of colors.

Redness and swelling of the conjunctiva, the thin layer covering the white part

of the eye.

Difficulty in completely closing the eyelids, especially while sleeping.

The most common eye sign in Graves’ disease is proptosis, in which the eyes

appear to bulge outward. This finding is present in 70 – 90% of cases of thyroid

eye disease. The swelling that causes proptosis is due to collections of fluid,

fat, and inflammatory cells.

The muscles that move the eyes may also become congested and stiff. This leads

to double vision, since the muscles are unable to move the eyes together. As the

disease gets worse, scarring of these muscles may occur, resulting in permanent

limitation of eye movements.

Proptosis may gradually increase to the extent that the cornea

(the transparent tissue covering the front of the eye) becomes exposed. This

exposure leads to drying and inflammation, which can progress to severe

infections and ulcers of the cornea in extreme cases. Also, the orbital swelling

may be so severe that the pressure within the eye increases, leading to

glaucoma. The optic nerve, which is responsible for sending information received

from the eye to the brain, may become strangled, resulting in severe or total

visual loss. "

Much more information is available at

http://www.uic.edu/com/eye/education/eyefacts/ThyroidEyeDisease.htm

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/27/2003 5:52:17 AM Central Standard Time,

hyperthyroidism writes:

> 1) How much water to use to desolve the epson salt and baking soda and how

> much epson sale and baking soda should we use?

>

> 2) Would allergy eye drops affect the medication that we are taking, like

> Tapazole?

>

> 3)Should we go see an eye doctor? Inside of my eyes are red and my right

> eyelid is kind of puffy - I thought it was allergic to the make-up because

> it is sometimes a littly itchy.

>

> Thanks again.

>

> Pam

Hi Pam- teaspoon of Epson salt & teaspoon of baking soda mixed to dissolve.

Soak soft cloth in it and cool (mine is frozen but do whatever is comfortable

for you).

I'm not sure if tap would interfere with allergy eye drops- asking a doctor

would be good. I've used them without a problem but just over the counter

stuff.

Make up has aluminum oxides maybe? Heavy metals should be avoided.

S

[Guest guest]

Thank you very much. Appreciated.

Pam

[Guest guest]

Thanks . I've been taking capsuls and will try the oil you mentioned.

Pam

[Guest guest]

I've heard that too, - they come together with allergies.

Jan

> Wish I had a link to post to this, but I recall

> reading a few years ago that dark circles (which can

> be caused by a number of things as we see posted here

> on this group) are often a sign/symptom of allergies

> in a child. Most often they are food related or

> environmental. A dear friend of mine removed dairy,

> sugar & food dyes from her child's diet. The result

> was (naturally) a healthier child & the dark circles

> lessened. Also to mention, he previously suffered

> from severe allergies, frequent colds & ear infections

> - after the change in diet, he is much healthier.

> Just another person's experience.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

On 1/25/05 2:33 PM, " jeannekrieg@... " <jeannekrieg@...>

wrote:

>

> My ENT doctor calls those dark circles " allergy shiners " . I will usually get

> those from dairy and sometimes food additives. When they did allergy testing

> awhile back I tested postive for 11 different types of molds and a +2 on dairy

> which they didn't seem too concerned about as they were looking at everything

> from a +5 and higher. From what I have read the foods to stay away from for

> mold allergies, candida, and migraines are pretty much the same. Makes ya

> think how much they are all connected.

>

> Mine get worse on different days as well and were non-existent when I had

> majorly cut out everything and at that time was just applying coconut oil

> topically.

You beat me to it, Jeanne

I too have been wondering why I have these, and if they are Candida related.

I have a friend who says hers went away when she cleared up her Candida, but

other people have told me they are from a variety of things, including:

- Kidneys

- Liver

- Adrenal fatigue / exhaustion

- Allergies

Mine definitely got worse when I was taking two packets of ThreeLac every

day (a freeze dried probiotic).

Could the die-off the ThreeLac was causing have amplified the cark circles?

Or maybe placed additional stress on the liver which thus increased them?

They have plagued me for years and I freaking HATE them!!! VERY

embarrassing @ times! ( " You look so tired! " " You don't look so good " etc.)

Anyone have any insight?

_jason_

_________ ________ _______ _____ ____ ___ __ _ _ _

[Guest guest]

I think the candida causes problems every where. It could very well be that our

adrenals, liver, kidneys etc. etc. aren't functioning up to par because of the

candida.

do you eat dairy ? Or nuts?

I cut out dairy now today and will tell you in a week where I am at with the

dark circles.

Sometimes I have had them so bad and than the rest of my face doesn't have a

good color tone either. I have red hair and so my skin is really fair which

makes it worse.

Maybe Bee will eventually see the dark circle post and make a comment.

Jeanne

-------------- Original message --------------

On 1/25/05 2:33 PM, " jeannekrieg@... " <jeannekrieg@...>

wrote:

>

> My ENT doctor calls those dark circles " allergy shiners " . I will usually get

> those from dairy and sometimes food additives. When they did allergy testing

> awhile back I tested postive for 11 different types of molds and a +2 on dairy

> which they didn't seem too concerned about as they were looking at everything

> from a +5 and higher. From what I have read the foods to stay away from for

> mold allergies, candida, and migraines are pretty much the same. Makes ya

> think how much they are all connected.

>

> Mine get worse on different days as well and were non-existent when I had

> majorly cut out everything and at that time was just applying coconut oil

> topically.

You beat me to it, Jeanne

I too have been wondering why I have these, and if they are Candida related.

I have a friend who says hers went away when she cleared up her Candida, but

other people have told me they are from a variety of things, including:

- Kidneys

- Liver

- Adrenal fatigue / exhaustion

- Allergies

Mine definitely got worse when I was taking two packets of ThreeLac every

day (a freeze dried probiotic).

Could the die-off the ThreeLac was causing have amplified the cark circles?

Or maybe placed additional stress on the liver which thus increased them?

They have plagued me for years and I freaking HATE them!!! VERY

embarrassing @ times! ( " You look so tired! " " You don't look so good " etc.)

Anyone have any insight?

_jason_

_________ ________ _______ _____ ____ ___ __ _ _ _

[Guest guest]

On 1/25/05 6:03 PM, " jeannekrieg@... " <jeannekrieg@...>

wrote:

>

> I think the candida causes problems every where. It could very well be that

> our adrenals, liver, kidneys etc. etc. aren't functioning up to par because of

> the candida.

>

> do you eat dairy ? Or nuts?

No, I eat nither. Been off dairy for close to a year, and not really into

nuts. Why are nuts an issue?.

> I cut out dairy now today and will tell you in a week where I am at with the

> dark circles.

Please do.

> Sometimes I have had them so bad and than the rest of my face doesn't have a

> good color tone either. I have red hair and so my skin is really fair which

> makes it worse.

I completely relate.

> Maybe Bee will eventually see the dark circle post and make a comment.

Bee? :-)

_jason_

_________ ________ _______ _____ ____ ___ __ _ _ _

[Guest guest]

> Of course I have that. Dark circles, lots of ripples on the sides,

> and inflated (not tremendously) under the eyes.

>

> Only times it gets better is also when in the countryside, and

> quitting unhealthy diet.

I have found that the dark circles under my eyes will (temporarily)

get better if I soak in hot bathtub (chlorine removed), or if I

spend some time in a steamroom.

Marc

[Guest guest]

You can do all the GF/CF and give supplements but if we all are still buying

foods already prepared in a package-many that still contain man made

chemicals for preservation(nitrates, sulfites or food additives to enhance

flavor

like MSG or other similar ) In my opinion and experience with my own

children(all 5 (grown) and 4 grandchildren) You are wasting your time and

money.

Whole natural foods are the way to go! Food made from scratch(real grains,

fruits, nuts, seeds & veggies/herbs.

Even fast food restaurants put MSG(hidden) which makes addicts out of

society since the whole idea behind it is to keep you coming back for more of

the

same.

I have been there! After years of ill health and children w/behavioral

difficulties and illnesses, I slowly introduced whole foods . To my amazement

and

the amazement of doctors, we all got well .

It is not easy but with practice, it gets easier. There is really no excuse

for eating poorly since. God gave us all food in their natural form.

Debbie

Does your brat have nitrites/nitrates or colorings? If you do understand the

ingredients stated on packaging you should not be consuming it.

In a message dated 3/5/2009 10:26:31 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

roserudolph55@... writes:

I don't really keep processed foods out. I should, I guess try harder. Do

you mean processed like fast food, or processed like a brat made on the grill

at home?

I think I'll take your advice and start to keep fast food completely out of

his diet. THANKS for your reply!

Rose

________________________________

From: " _gieshouse50@gieshou_ (mailto:gieshouse50@...) "

<_gieshouse50@gieshou_ (mailto:gieshouse50@...) >

_ @Autism-MercuAut_ (mailto: )

Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2009 9:10:25 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] Dark Circles

My sons now adults had dark circles too. One thing that helped was whole

foods-nothing processed . No fast food at all.

In a message dated 3/5/2009 9:58:25 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

DavAliNeecomcast (DOT) net writes:

My son suffers from these too.Could the dark circles be untreated yeast?

Could it be a liver having to work too hard? I've heard that red ears could

be a

phenol issue? Alison M

[ ] Dark Circles

I really need some help. My son has really really dark puffy circles under

his eyes. Now I've been doing biomed for 4 years and I know that this is a

sign of allergies leaking from his gut, but every diet we've ever tried gave

us

absolutely NO results... again NNNNOOOOO! results! We did gfcf for 2

straight

years and scd for 1 1/2 years. Since these diets gave me no results at all

what else could this be from. We also have the classic red hot ears and

screaming.

Thanks for your replies!

Rose

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[Guest guest]

I really need some help. My son has really really dark puffy circles under his

eyes. Now I've been doing biomed for 4 years and I know that this is a sign of

allergies leaking from his gut, but every diet we've ever tried gave us

absolutely NO results... again NNNNOOOOO! results! We did gfcf for 2 straight

years and scd for 1 1/2 years. Since these diets gave me no results at all what

else could this be from. We also have the classic red hot ears and screaming.

Thanks for your replies!

Rose

[Guest guest]

My son just developed these in the past month after 3 years of biomed. I agree

about the foods...you have to read every label and bake/cook a lot of your own

from scratch.

For my son it is not fast foods....

We didn't see yeast do this in the past...but I haven't ruled that out.

We put him on enzymes a week ago...no change.

I stopped some supplements based upon applied kinesiology to see if that makes a

difference. If it does....I will let you all know what supplements were the

problem.

So for us we have the following ideas:

yeast, parasites, digestive problem/food allergy.

Hot red ears..that may be phenols? We don't have that sign here.

>

> I agree with the whole foods. If you want a potato, eat a potato (organic if

possible).

> Read the ingredients on the package. If there is more than one or two lines,

it's probably not good.

> Also try digestive enzymes. We are having a bit of a WOW right now with those

on the boys.

> TJ

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: " gieshouse50@... " <gieshouse50@...>

>

> Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2009 8:07:45 AM

> Subject: Re: [ ] Dark Circles

>

>

> You can do all the GF/CF and give supplements but if we all are still buying

> foods already prepared in a package-many that still contain man made

> chemicals for preservation( nitrates, sulfites or food additives to enhance

flavor

> like MSG or other similar ) In my opinion and experience with my own

> children(all 5 (grown) and 4 grandchildren) You are wasting your time and

money.

>

> Whole natural foods are the way to go! Food made from scratch(real grains,

> fruits, nuts, seeds & veggies/herbs.

>

> Even fast food restaurants put MSG(hidden) which makes addicts out of

> society since the whole idea behind it is to keep you coming back for more of

the

> same.

>

> I have been there! After years of ill health and children w/behavioral

> difficulties and illnesses, I slowly introduced whole foods . To my amazement

and

> the amazement of doctors, we all got well .

> It is not easy but with practice, it gets easier. There is really no excuse

> for eating poorly since. God gave us all food in their natural form.

>

> Debbie

> Does your brat have nitrites/nitrates or colorings? If you do understand the

> ingredients stated on packaging you should not be consuming it.

>

>

> In a message dated 3/5/2009 10:26:31 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> roserudolph55 writes:

>

> I don't really keep processed foods out. I should, I guess try harder. Do

> you mean processed like fast food, or processed like a brat made on the grill

> at home?

>

> I think I'll take your advice and start to keep fast food completely out of

> his diet. THANKS for your reply!

>

> Rose

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> From: " _gieshouse50@ gieshou_ (mailto:gieshouse50@ aol.com) "

> <_gieshouse50@ gieshou_ (mailto:gieshouse50@ aol.com) >

> _ @ Autism-MercuAut_ (mailto: @ groups.

com)

> Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2009 9:10:25 AM

> Subject: Re: [ ] Dark Circles

>

> My sons now adults had dark circles too. One thing that helped was whole

> foods-nothing processed . No fast food at all.

>

> In a message dated 3/5/2009 9:58:25 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> DavAliNeecomcast (DOT) net writes:

>

> My son suffers from these too.Could the dark circles be untreated yeast?

> Could it be a liver having to work too hard? I've heard that red ears could

> be a

> phenol issue? Alison M

> [ ] Dark Circles

>

> I really need some help. My son has really really dark puffy circles under

> his eyes. Now I've been doing biomed for 4 years and I know that this is a

> sign of allergies leaking from his gut, but every diet we've ever tried gave

> us

> absolutely NO results... again NNNNOOOOO! results! We did gfcf for 2

> straight

> years and scd for 1 1/2 years. Since these diets gave me no results at all

> what else could this be from. We also have the classic red hot ears and

> screaming.

>

> Thanks for your replies!

>

> Rose

>

>

[Guest guest]

's dark circles aren't THAT bad, but have always been there with the

exception of the very early days of scd. and I'm not sure when they reappeared.

it happened slowly. we just made an appointment with an allergist who

knows/understands autism. hoping to find some answers there in May. is it

possible that the allergic reaction could be to something other than

food...pets, outdoor allergens? Just a thought.

Kari

>

> I agree with the whole foods. If you want a potato, eat a potato (organic if

possible).

> Read the ingredients on the package. If there is more than one or two lines,

it's probably not good.

> Also try digestive enzymes. We are having a bit of a WOW right now with those

on the boys.

> TJ

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: " gieshouse50@... " <gieshouse50@...>

>

> Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2009 8:07:45 AM

> Subject: Re: [ ] Dark Circles

>

>

> You can do all the GF/CF and give supplements but if we all are still buying

> foods already prepared in a package-many that still contain man made

> chemicals for preservation( nitrates, sulfites or food additives to enhance

flavor

> like MSG or other similar ) In my opinion and experience with my own

> children(all 5 (grown) and 4 grandchildren) You are wasting your time and

money.

>

> Whole natural foods are the way to go! Food made from scratch(real grains,

> fruits, nuts, seeds & veggies/herbs.

>

> Even fast food restaurants put MSG(hidden) which makes addicts out of

> society since the whole idea behind it is to keep you coming back for more of

the

> same.

>

> I have been there! After years of ill health and children w/behavioral

> difficulties and illnesses, I slowly introduced whole foods . To my amazement

and

> the amazement of doctors, we all got well .

> It is not easy but with practice, it gets easier. There is really no excuse

> for eating poorly since. God gave us all food in their natural form.

>

> Debbie

> Does your brat have nitrites/nitrates or colorings? If you do understand the

> ingredients stated on packaging you should not be consuming it.

>

>

> In a message dated 3/5/2009 10:26:31 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> roserudolph55 writes:

>

> I don't really keep processed foods out. I should, I guess try harder. Do

> you mean processed like fast food, or processed like a brat made on the grill

> at home?

>

> I think I'll take your advice and start to keep fast food completely out of

> his diet. THANKS for your reply!

>

> Rose

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> From: " _gieshouse50@ gieshou_ (mailto:gieshouse50@ aol.com) "

> <_gieshouse50@ gieshou_ (mailto:gieshouse50@ aol.com) >

> _ @ Autism-MercuAut_ (mailto: @ groups.

com)

> Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2009 9:10:25 AM

> Subject: Re: [ ] Dark Circles

>

> My sons now adults had dark circles too. One thing that helped was whole

> foods-nothing processed . No fast food at all.

>

> In a message dated 3/5/2009 9:58:25 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> DavAliNeecomcast (DOT) net writes:

>

> My son suffers from these too.Could the dark circles be untreated yeast?

> Could it be a liver having to work too hard? I've heard that red ears could

> be a

> phenol issue? Alison M

> [ ] Dark Circles

>

> I really need some help. My son has really really dark puffy circles under

> his eyes. Now I've been doing biomed for 4 years and I know that this is a

> sign of allergies leaking from his gut, but every diet we've ever tried gave

> us

> absolutely NO results... again NNNNOOOOO! results! We did gfcf for 2

> straight

> years and scd for 1 1/2 years. Since these diets gave me no results at all

> what else could this be from. We also have the classic red hot ears and

> screaming.

>

> Thanks for your replies!

>

> Rose

>

>

[Guest guest]

My DD has these dark circles, too.  Our chiro said it's allergies like mold n

stuff and her adrenals and pituitary tested weak.  I had adrenal fatigue during

pregnancy but didn't know it then. I only knew I was sooooo tired.  The dark

circles sometimes look like shiners they're so dark and she looks sooo

unhealthy.  But, she rarely has colds, etc.  We do the all organic, non

processed diet.  I wonder if it's the allergies leaking from the gut thing.... 

how do I find out more about that?

Thanks,

Rox

http://stores.ebay.com/TIN-SIGNS-and-THINGS-4-U

" A foolish faith in authority is the worst enemy of truth. " -- Albert Einstein,

letter to a friend, 1901

[Guest guest]

My son has had it since he was 4 mths old, and that's when I eliminated all

of his food allergens (I was nursing and did total elimination diet where I

ate nothing but 8 foods). He didn't have symptoms of inhalant allergies, so

I had no clue why he had them (still does at 4.5yo). He is showing some

symptoms of inhalant allergies now. And they get darker when he gets a cold

and his sinuses get clogged up.

On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 8:29 PM, Little Red Riding Hood <

papbdaybaby@...> wrote:

> My DD has these dark circles, too. Our chiro said it's allergies like mold

> n stuff and her adrenals and pituitary tested weak. I had adrenal fatigue

> during pregnancy but didn't know it then. I only knew I was sooooo tired.

> The dark circles sometimes look like shiners they're so dark and she looks

> sooo unhealthy. But, she rarely has colds, etc. We do the all organic, non

> processed diet. I wonder if it's the allergies leaking from the gut

> thing.... how do I find out more about that?

> Thanks,

> Rox

>

> http://stores.ebay.com/TIN-SIGNS-and-THINGS-4-U

>

> " A foolish faith in authority is the worst enemy of truth. " -- Albert

> Einstein, letter to a friend, 1901

>

>

[Guest guest]

--My son's eyes are virtually constantly Red than dark, as if he's been crying,

on the rare occassions that his eye's look even remotely healthy his behaviours

and stress levels are much better.

I suspect Food or environmental allergies/intolerances possibly even something

in a supplement. He is also on a clean diet.

Kenny

- In , " Jan " <mercurybabies2@...> wrote:

>

> My son just developed these in the past month after 3 years of biomed. I agree

about the foods...you have to read every label and bake/cook a lot of your own

from scratch.

>

> For my son it is not fast foods....

>

> We didn't see yeast do this in the past...but I haven't ruled that out.

> We put him on enzymes a week ago...no change.

>

> I stopped some supplements based upon applied kinesiology to see if that makes

a difference. If it does....I will let you all know what supplements were the

problem.

>

> So for us we have the following ideas:

> yeast, parasites, digestive problem/food allergy.

>

> Hot red ears..that may be phenols? We don't have that sign here.

>

>

>

> >

> > I agree with the whole foods. If you want a potato, eat a potato (organic if

possible).

> > Read the ingredients on the package. If there is more than one or two lines,

it's probably not good.

> > Also try digestive enzymes. We are having a bit of a WOW right now with

those on the boys.

> > TJ

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > From: " gieshouse50@ " <gieshouse50@>

> >

> > Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2009 8:07:45 AM

> > Subject: Re: [ ] Dark Circles

> >

> >

> > You can do all the GF/CF and give supplements but if we all are still buying

> > foods already prepared in a package-many that still contain man made

> > chemicals for preservation( nitrates, sulfites or food additives to enhance

flavor

> > like MSG or other similar ) In my opinion and experience with my own

> > children(all 5 (grown) and 4 grandchildren) You are wasting your time and

money.

> >

> > Whole natural foods are the way to go! Food made from scratch(real grains,

> > fruits, nuts, seeds & veggies/herbs.

> >

> > Even fast food restaurants put MSG(hidden) which makes addicts out of

> > society since the whole idea behind it is to keep you coming back for more

of the

> > same.

> >

> > I have been there! After years of ill health and children w/behavioral

> > difficulties and illnesses, I slowly introduced whole foods . To my

amazement and

> > the amazement of doctors, we all got well .

> > It is not easy but with practice, it gets easier. There is really no excuse

> > for eating poorly since. God gave us all food in their natural form.

> >

> > Debbie

> > Does your brat have nitrites/nitrates or colorings? If you do understand the

> > ingredients stated on packaging you should not be consuming it.

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 3/5/2009 10:26:31 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> > roserudolph55 writes:

> >

> > I don't really keep processed foods out. I should, I guess try harder. Do

> > you mean processed like fast food, or processed like a brat made on the

grill

> > at home?

> >

> > I think I'll take your advice and start to keep fast food completely out of

> > his diet. THANKS for your reply!

> >

> > Rose

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > From: " _gieshouse50@ gieshou_ (mailto:gieshouse50@ aol.com) "

> > <_gieshouse50@ gieshou_ (mailto:gieshouse50@ aol.com) >

> > _ @ Autism-MercuAut_ (mailto: @ groups.

com)

> > Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2009 9:10:25 AM

> > Subject: Re: [ ] Dark Circles

> >

> > My sons now adults had dark circles too. One thing that helped was whole

> > foods-nothing processed . No fast food at all.

> >

> > In a message dated 3/5/2009 9:58:25 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> > DavAliNeecomcast (DOT) net writes:

> >

> > My son suffers from these too.Could the dark circles be untreated yeast?

> > Could it be a liver having to work too hard? I've heard that red ears could

> > be a

> > phenol issue? Alison M

> > [ ] Dark Circles

> >

> > I really need some help. My son has really really dark puffy circles under

> > his eyes. Now I've been doing biomed for 4 years and I know that this is a

> > sign of allergies leaking from his gut, but every diet we've ever tried gave

> > us

> > absolutely NO results... again NNNNOOOOO! results! We did gfcf for 2

> > straight

> > years and scd for 1 1/2 years. Since these diets gave me no results at all

> > what else could this be from. We also have the classic red hot ears and

> > screaming.

> >

> > Thanks for your replies!

> >

> > Rose

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

>

> I really need some help. My son has really really dark puffy circles under his

eyes. Now I've been doing biomed for 4 years and I know that this is a sign of

allergies leaking from his gut, but every diet we've ever tried gave us

absolutely NO results... again NNNNOOOOO! results! We did gfcf for 2 straight

years and scd for 1 1/2 years. Since these diets gave me no results at all what

else could this be from. We also have the classic red hot ears and screaming.

Phenol issues, carotene conversion issues, yeast overgrowth, and mineral

deficiency all caused this at my house.

Dana

[Guest guest]

My son also had horrible dark circles. It made his red rimmed eyes look even

more sunken into his skinny face.

Food allergies were only part of it here. We also added digestive enzymes, went

to organic diet, too.

Detoxing the home environment was a big help. We tore up his carpet and put wood

flooring down in his bedroom, use a hepa air filter all night while he sleeps,

eliminated all chemicals and artificial fragrances from cleaning/laundry

products/air fresheners/candles to remove the sinus irritants (and as a bonus it

saves money), and went all natural, organic, chemical free in personal care

products, too: shampoo, soap, even handsoaps at each sink (it is not expensive

if you make your own). I make sure and vacuum regularly with hepa filter and

wash things that hold irritants like curtains and bedspreads, coats, a little

more frequently than I used to.

We also use a combo of NAET/homeopathy to treat environmental allergies, like

mold, dust, animal dander, and tree pollen was a severe inhalant allergy for him

and he has been off all Rx and OTC allergy meds now for 2 years! As we enter

spring, I take him for a NAET/homoepathy " fine tuning " and he'll be fine.

Gentle massage to promote sinus drainage and lymph drainage, and CST have been

helpful too. It wasn't any one thing here that worked. But as we added these

things, we noticed his circles were less, and then -when we detoxed the house

they finally were completely gone.

-- In , Little Red Riding Hood <papbdaybaby@...>

wrote:

>

> My DD has these dark circles, too.  Our chiro said it's allergies like mold n

stuff and her adrenals and pituitary tested weak.  I had adrenal fatigue during

pregnancy but didn't know it then. I only knew I was sooooo tired.  The dark

circles sometimes look like shiners they're so dark and she looks sooo

unhealthy.  But, she rarely has colds, etc.  We do the all organic, non

processed diet.  I wonder if it's the allergies leaking from the gut thing.... 

how do I find out more about that?

> Thanks,

> Rox

>

> http://stores.ebay.com/TIN-SIGNS-and-THINGS-4-U

>

> " A foolish faith in authority is the worst enemy of truth. " -- Albert

Einstein, letter to a friend, 1901

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I'm getting ready to replace carpeting in my house with new carpeting in certain

areas and more wood in others (like children's rooms). My question is this: Is

there a carpeting that is better than others for allergens?

Sandy

> >

> > My DD has these dark circles, too.  Our chiro said it's allergies like mold

n stuff and her adrenals and pituitary tested weak.  I had adrenal fatigue

during pregnancy but didn't know it then. I only knew I was sooooo tired.  The

dark circles sometimes look like shiners they're so dark and she looks sooo

unhealthy.  But, she rarely has colds, etc.  We do the all organic, non

processed diet.  I wonder if it's the allergies leaking from the gut thing.... 

how do I find out more about that?

> > Thanks,

> > Rox

> >

> > http://stores.ebay.com/TIN-SIGNS-and-THINGS-4-U

> >

> > " A foolish faith in authority is the worst enemy of truth. " -- Albert

Einstein, letter to a friend, 1901

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

 i use carpets only in winter and in summer i remove them and the only detergent

i use for now is just regular soap and water becuase he is  so sensitive and

become itchy from anything

From: Sandy <sandybwalker@...>

Subject: [ ] Re:Dark Circles

Date: Friday, March 6, 2009, 2:32 PM

Hi,

I'm getting ready to replace carpeting in my house with new carpeting in certain

areas and more wood in others (like children's rooms). My question is this: Is

there a carpeting that is better than others for allergens?

Sandy

> >

> > My DD has these dark circles, too.  Our chiro said it's allergies like mold

n stuff and her adrenals and pituitary tested weak.  I had adrenal fatigue

during pregnancy but didn't know it then. I only knew I was sooooo tired.  The

dark circles sometimes look like shiners they're so dark and she looks sooo

unhealthy.  But, she rarely has colds, etc.  We do the all organic, non

processed diet.  I wonder if it's the allergies leaking from the gut thing.... 

how do I find out more about that?

> > Thanks,

> > Rox

> >

> > http://stores. ebay.com/ TIN-SIGNS- and-THINGS- 4-U

> >

> > " A foolish faith in authority is the worst enemy of truth. " -- Albert

Einstein, letter to a friend, 1901

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I get dark circles when I eat any milk product or anything containing milk deritives. Look like someone punched me and they will grow larger and longer the more time I'm ingesting it. Had them till my mid 40's when a doc told me to go off milk and they magically disappeared. Just an FYI..... Tressler Healthy Transitions Life Coaching 541-791-1464 Help raise funds for Legacy Land Conservancy by searching the internet or shoping online with GoodSearch (www.goodsearch.com).

[Guest guest]

For my son, dark circles mean an increase in yeast (probably

intestinal) and/or adrenal stress. We use ADRENergize for adrenals.

For yeast, low sugar diet, probiotics, OLE (4xday with 2 No Fenol

enzymes while chelating, 2xday when not giving ALA/DMSA for

chelation).

HTH,

I need help to solve this problem. My kid started to have this for several weeks

(she is on the 15 rounds of ALA/DMSA) and it is getting worse. What causes this

and how to improve? Thanks everyone!

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Do you use ADRENergizer from Enzymatics? What's the effect?

I took half a caps myself and had terrible side effects. 

Thanks,

 

________________________________

From: Falconer Al-Hindi <karen.alhindi@...>

Sent: Sat, November 20, 2010 11:31:39 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: Dark circles

 

For my son, dark circles mean an increase in yeast (probably

intestinal) and/or adrenal stress. We use ADRENergize for adrenals.

For yeast, low sugar diet, probiotics, OLE (4xday with 2 No Fenol

enzymes while chelating, 2xday when not giving ALA/DMSA for

chelation).

HTH,

I need help to solve this problem. My kid started to have this for several weeks

(she is on the 15 rounds of ALA/DMSA) and it is getting worse. What causes this

and how to improve? Thanks everyone!