Guest guest Posted February 9, 2004 Report Share Posted February 9, 2004 They have tried my on all sorts of drugs and none of them work my doctor knows how I feel The y will put me in hospital soon if I dont find the right antidepressant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2004 Report Share Posted February 9, 2004 thanks i hope so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2004 Report Share Posted February 9, 2004 You should call your doctor as soon as possible- maybe you need a dosage increase or maybe this isn't the drug for you- but if you are feeling that terrible your doctor should be aware so that you can get the help you deserve. Take care, >>> robbosgirl@... 02/09 9:04 AM >>> Its my 3rd week on lexapro I hoped it would take away suicidal thoughts but it hasnt yet how long should I take them and see if they work Or would they they have started to work by now i am severely depressed i cant read a book or watch tv My husband has to drive me round as I cant stay in my beautiful house Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2004 Report Share Posted February 9, 2004 Well hang in there and don't give up- I have been so low in the past and thought I would never recover but I did eventually- Take care and God bless, >>> robbosgirl@... 02/09 9:31 AM >>> They have tried my on all sorts of drugs and none of them work my doctor knows how I feel The y will put me in hospital soon if I dont find the right antidepressant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2004 Report Share Posted February 9, 2004 I've been told that it can take up to 4 to 6 weeks to really feel the affect of any antidepressant. Hang i there. Re: suicidal thoughts thanks i hope so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 hrm.. are you experiencing anxiety with those thoughts? are you on any other meds? I tend to be wreck when i take SSRIs alone, but my doctor put me on zyprexa first so that i could tolerate the lexapro, and I must say the combo is great! Hope this helps.. and let us know how things go. <3 *Brynn* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2007 Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 I have to chime in on the response from and whomever else being afraid their son would kill himself. Dd, is away at college. We have had a couple of real lows, things happening to her that she couldn't handle very well. It is so hard not being able to keep an eye on her. She wants to be at this college and it is good for her to try to be responsible on her own because she depends very heavily on me and we are very close. I just have to trust in God that he will take care of her. Very difficult! Most people could not fathom having those thoughts have fear for your child. They think, yes, life is stressful at college, kids get emotional but then there's us with the worst fear ever that your child could take his/her life. We just had a 16 yo girl in our area take her life. She felt she was transgendered and over the summer was undergoing processes outwardly to change into a boy. Her parents, friends, etc. were behind her but apparently life just got to be too much. Before OCD at our house, I would have " looked down my nose " thinking those parents must have done something wrong. NO MORE!!! I have lots of sympathy for them. She was also very intelligent, respected by peers. So yeah! I understand!!! F Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2007 Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 I have to chime in on the response from and whomever else being afraid their son would kill himself. Dd, is away at college. We have had a couple of real lows, things happening to her that she couldn't handle very well. It is so hard not being able to keep an eye on her. She wants to be at this college and it is good for her to try to be responsible on her own because she depends very heavily on me and we are very close. I just have to trust in God that he will take care of her. Very difficult! Most people could not fathom having those thoughts have fear for your child. They think, yes, life is stressful at college, kids get emotional but then there's us with the worst fear ever that your child could take his/her life. We just had a 16 yo girl in our area take her life. She felt she was transgendered and over the summer was undergoing processes outwardly to change into a boy. Her parents, friends, etc. were behind her but apparently life just got to be too much. Before OCD at our house, I would have " looked down my nose " thinking those parents must have done something wrong. NO MORE!!! I have lots of sympathy for them. She was also very intelligent, respected by peers. So yeah! I understand!!! F Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2009 Report Share Posted March 18, 2009 you have probably adrenal fatique .look for a doctor that understand adrenal fatigue ,thyroid and bio-identical hormones especially,bio-identical progesterone. > > I started taking LDN at 1.5mg at night for 7 days for IBS before I started getting suicidal thoughts. I did have some of the side effects mentioned here such as low blood pressure, fatigue, anxiety. I was determined to go the three months as suggested here to give my body time to adjust but had to stop when I suicidal thoughts started to enter my mind. Now that I have stopped for 3 days now I have been hit with a severe case of depression. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2009 Report Share Posted March 18, 2009 IBS is often used as a catch all diagnosis when doctors do not know what is wrong. What symptoms are you experiencing that brought on the diagnosis? I was diagnosed with IBS for years. It turned out to be cancer. I empathize with you and hope you can get to the real truth. Jaco > From: evolveto2012 <evolveto2012@...> > Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Suicidal thoughts > low dose naltrexone > Date: Wednesday, March 18, 2009, 6:13 PM > I started taking LDN at 1.5mg at > night for 7 days for IBS before I started getting suicidal > thoughts. I did have some of the side effects > mentioned here such as low blood pressure, fatigue, anxiety. > I was determined to go the three months as suggested here to > give my body time to adjust but had to stop when I suicidal > thoughts started to enter my mind. Now that I have > stopped for 3 days now I have been hit with a severe case of > depression. > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2009 Report Share Posted March 18, 2009 If you are having any thoughts whatsoever of suicidal ideation, RIGHT NOW, pick up the phone and call for help! For God sakes do not worry about your other conditions or physical complications, they are SECONDARY right now! Call 1-800-273-TALK, or 1-800-784-2433 RIGHT NOW, you already know this, or you would not be reaching out. Trust me, everything else is secondary right now. Call and reach out for help RIGHT NOW! I take this VERY seriously as one who has suffered severe major depression and has had to be hospitalized for it 3 times in my life. Please don't mess around with just thinking they are only " thoughts " - thoughts can turn to action quickly, you need to get help now. Carolyn S or > > I started taking LDN at 1.5mg at night for 7 days for IBS before I started getting suicidal thoughts. I did have some of the side effects mentioned here such as low blood pressure, fatigue, anxiety. I was determined to go the three months as suggested here to give my body time to adjust but had to stop when I suicidal thoughts started to enter my mind. Now that I have stopped for 3 days now I have been hit with a severe case of depression. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2009 Report Share Posted March 18, 2009 My symptoms are abdominal pain, general fatigue, diarrhea and constipation. Thanks for your post. > > > From: evolveto2012 <evolveto2012@...> > > Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Suicidal thoughts > > low dose naltrexone > > Date: Wednesday, March 18, 2009, 6:13 PM > > I started taking LDN at 1.5mg at > > night for 7 days for IBS before I started getting suicidal > > thoughts. I did have some of the side effects > > mentioned here such as low blood pressure, fatigue, anxiety. > > I was determined to go the three months as suggested here to > > give my body time to adjust but had to stop when I suicidal > > thoughts started to enter my mind. Now that I have > > stopped for 3 days now I have been hit with a severe case of > > depression. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2009 Report Share Posted March 18, 2009 Jaco, I agree – seems a lot of people start out with being diagnosed with IBS (my partner did and then diagnosed with MS). Seems to be the onset of things to come. Best, Jayne Please sign the petition to the UK Govt to fund trials for LDN http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/LowDNaltrexone/ From: low dose naltrexone [mailto:low dose naltrexone ] On Behalf Of Jaco B Sent: 18 March 2009 18:58 low dose naltrexone Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Suicidal thoughts IBS is often used as a catch all diagnosis when doctors do not know what is wrong. What symptoms are you experiencing that brought on the diagnosis? I was diagnosed with IBS for years. It turned out to be cancer. I empathize with you and hope you can get to the real truth. Jaco > From: evolveto2012 <evolveto2012@...> > Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Suicidal thoughts > low dose naltrexone > Date: Wednesday, March 18, 2009, 6:13 PM > I started taking LDN at 1.5mg at > night for 7 days for IBS before I started getting suicidal > thoughts. I did have some of the side effects > mentioned here such as low blood pressure, fatigue, anxiety. > I was determined to go the three months as suggested here to > give my body time to adjust but had to stop when I suicidal > thoughts started to enter my mind. Now that I have > stopped for 3 days now I have been hit with a severe case of > depression. > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2009 Report Share Posted March 18, 2009 Yes, I had been taking an antidepressant and stopped one year ago. I went on a taper and it was doctor supervised. Since then I have limited my consumption of sugar, caffeine, dairy, and flour to as little as possible and take a number of supplements that I believe have been helping my mood and anxiety including inositol. I had really been doing well with diet, exercise and supplements but since starting LDN I feel like I got hit by a truck. The suicidal thoughts came when I was crossing a bridge that is maybe 100 feet high on my way home. The thoughts came over me so suddenly. It was if something, some force, was trying to pull me over the railing. I started to quicken my pace to cross the bridge as fast as I could but that made it worse. I started envisioning myself leaping over the railing and the force seemed to be getting stronger. My body seemed to be electrified and in shock. I am better now. I don't feel the panic I was feeling but I am depressed. I am with family now and will try to get some medical advise as to what to do next. ie start taking an antidepressant again. > > > > Do you take an antidepressant? Have you eliminated sugar from your diet? I've found myself, that since eliminating sugar from my diet, I don't get depressed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Wednesday, March 18, 2009, 6:13 PM > > > > I started taking LDN at 1.5mg at > > > > night for 7 days for IBS before I started getting suicidal > > > > thoughts. I did have some of the side effects > > > > mentioned here such as low blood pressure, fatigue, anxiety. > > > > I was determined to go the three months as suggested here to > > > > give my body time to adjust but had to stop when I suicidal > > > > thoughts started to enter my mind. Now that I have > > > > stopped for 3 days now I have been hit with a severe case of > > > > depression. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2009 Report Share Posted March 18, 2009 Hi- I'm new here, and have been reading all the digests. Learning a lot!-----> " evolveto2012 "  It sounds like Celiac to me. It is hard to get a celiac diagnosis. Doctors can be clueless about it. But your symptoms are spot on for celiac. If not treated (gluten free diet) it can cause other problems down the road. Try to get checked for celiac. -- Warmest Regards,Robin Little Posted by: " evolveto2012 " evolveto2012@...  evolveto2012 Wed Mar 18, 2009 12:42 pm (PDT) My symptoms are abdominal pain, general fatigue, diarrhea and constipation. Thanks for your post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2009 Report Share Posted March 19, 2009 Yes Jayne, It does appear that way. So many illnesses can start out as intestinal distress. I think the distress get the the disease process going. There is enough of the immune system in the intestines that dysfunction there could affect the rest of the body via the immune system. Many people don't know for instance that many GM foods like corn, potatoes, soy, the list is long, can cause intestinal upset. The research showing such effects in rats has been suppressed in favor of Monsanto profits. Then when the GM food consumers get ill - abracadabra - there's a new expensive medicine Pharma can hoist onto us and make profit that way too. You'd think it was a conspiracy if thinking that weren't considered an irrational observation. Jaco > > > > > From: evolveto2012 <evolveto2012@...> > > > Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Suicidal thoughts > > > low dose naltrexone > > > Date: Wednesday, March 18, 2009, 6:13 PM > > > I started taking LDN at 1.5mg at > > > night for 7 days for IBS before I started getting > suicidal > > > thoughts. I did have some of the side effects > > > mentioned here such as low blood pressure, fatigue, > anxiety. > > > I was determined to go the three months as suggested > here to > > > give my body time to adjust but had to stop when I > suicidal > > > thoughts started to enter my mind. Now that I > have > > > stopped for 3 days now I have been hit with a severe > case of > > > depression. > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2009 Report Share Posted March 19, 2009 Jaco: The Genetically Modified (GM) corn, High Fructose Corn Syrup, soy, etc. to which you refer is insidious in our processed foods. And processors don't have to label to warn anybody about anything. Any corn that's yellow is GM'd now. Check labels, folks, because HFCS is in just about anything that comes in a package, a bottle, a box, a shrink wrap. And if you check out the soy, that'll scare you to death even without the GM factor. Montsanto? Wanna talk about Round Up Ready seeds? But a conspiracy? Nah....Alarmist! Thanks for your good info. Best, Carole ---- Original Message ---- From: jaco.b7219@... low dose naltrexone Subject: RE: [low dose naltrexone] Suicidal thoughts Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:00:46 -0700 (PDT) > >Yes Jayne, > >It does appear that way. So many illnesses can start out as >intestinal distress. I think the distress get the the disease >process going. There is enough of the immune system in the >intestines that dysfunction there could affect the rest of the body >via the immune system. > >Many people don't know for instance that many GM foods like corn, >potatoes, soy, the list is long, can cause intestinal upset. The >research showing such effects in rats has been suppressed in favor of >Monsanto profits. Then when the GM food consumers get ill - >abracadabra - there's a new expensive medicine Pharma can hoist onto >us and make profit that way too. You'd think it was a conspiracy if >thinking that weren't considered >an irrational observation. > >Jaco > > >> >> >> >> > From: evolveto2012 <evolveto2012@...> >> >> > Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Suicidal thoughts >> >> > low dose naltrexone >> >> > Date: Wednesday, March 18, 2009, 6:13 PM >> >> > I started taking LDN at 1.5mg at >> >> > night for 7 days for IBS before I started getting >> suicidal >> >> > thoughts. I did have some of the side effects >> >> > mentioned here such as low blood pressure, fatigue, >> anxiety. >> >> > I was determined to go the three months as suggested >> here to >> >> > give my body time to adjust but had to stop when I >> suicidal >> >> > thoughts started to enter my mind. Now that I >> have >> >> > stopped for 3 days now I have been hit with a severe >> case of >> >> > depression. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > ------------------------------------ >> >> > >> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2009 Report Share Posted March 19, 2009 Depression is a terrible affliction. It is rampant in my family. Three suicides and *lots* of depression.I have been fighting it myself all my life.Were you ever depressed or suicidal *before* taking LDN?In case yours worsens or doesn't go away, here are some thoughts.There are various natural treatments and tons of medical treatments for depression. There are also some well studied psychotherapies that can help if worked on with a *good* counselor. Because every one is different I can't recommend any specific depression treatments for you but I can list some of them. Finding a counselor when one is suffering from depression is almost impossible because the very skills needed to discern if a therapist would be able to help, are clouded by the depression. A good recommendation and/or listening to your 'intuition' rather than trying to use your depressed decision making skills may help.Here's a link to a good article on how to find a good one.http://www.metanoia.org/choose/ 5htp can be useful in depression related to low serotonin levels.There's a form of folic acid called 'metafolin' that has helped some people (who lack the ability to break down folic acid), especially those taking antidepressants.There's also something called Rhodiola Rosea which i just learned about......http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhodiola_rosea (I haven't taken this and I'm not sure if it is contraindicated with LDN because of this (from the wiki article above): "Rhodiola rosea's effects potentially are related to optimizing serotonin and dopamine levels due to monoamine oxidase inhibition and its influence on opioid peptides such as beta-endorphins"). It looks *very* interesting.Other depression boosting substances include St 's Wort, & SAMe.Be aware that almost all pharmaceutical anti-depressants have a long list of side effects and may be hard to stop. Research any anti-depressant well before filling a prescription a well-meaning doctor prescribes.Ironically, there are people who claim that LDN has cured them of antidepressant resistant depression. see: http://prohibitionkills.blogspot.com/ You have to get somewhat far down the page before LDN is mentioned...but he ends up recommending you try LDN first.Good luck...depression sucks. McGovern >> I started taking LDN at 1.5mg at night for 7 days for IBS before I started getting suicidal thoughts. I did have some of the side effects mentioned here such as low blood pressure, fatigue, anxiety. I was determined to go the three months as suggested here to give my body time to adjust but had to stop when I suicidal thoughts started to enter my mind. Now that I have stopped for 3 days now I have been hit with a severe case of depression.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2009 Report Share Posted March 19, 2009 ldn helps with depression when the cause of depression is a long time inflamation as a result of auto-immune diseases. another cause of deprssion which is often not good diagnosed and especially when the depression is strong in the morning and later it gets better is the thyroid. > > , > I am sorry you have struggled with depression. You may have answered this, > but I have been busy and unable to follow posts this past week - Has the LDN > helped relieve the depression? I have two nieces who also have struggled all > their lives with this. > > a > > Depression is a terrible affliction. It is rampant in my family. Three > suicides and *lots* of depression. > > I have been fighting it myself all my life. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2009 Report Share Posted March 19, 2009 Hi a, I am taking a couple of antidepressants...5htp and metafolin (a form of foilc acid that helps some people with depression). The LDN does seem to be helping a little. I've only just got the evening dosing to a point where I can sleep and I definitely notice more 'endorphin-like' feelings during the day with evening dosing. The only time I am really depressed these days is when my fatigue is so bad that I can hardly engage in any physical activity. The LDN and possibly the IV ALA protocol I just went through might be helping with that. I have also recently joined a therapy group that provides me with some support. Plus I have to work with the cognitive traps my mind sets for me. One of my theories is that the body is very wise and also economical. When a person such as I is suffering from a chronic disease, the body wants to concentrate on healing and dealing with the imbalance caused by the disease. The body finds it easier, my theory postulates, to heal when it is inside sitting down or lying down. And how to make sure the body isn't expending a lot of energy going outside engaging in the world? Make it depressed, that's how! When I'm depressed, nothing looks or sounds like it would be fun. I don't want to see people, go to the zoo, or even listen to music that I like. I'm sleepy a lot and engage in activities that require minimal brain function...like reading easy-to-read mysteries. Anyway...that's my theory. Thanks for asking. Cheers, McGovern Thanks for asking! Cheers, McGovern > > , > I am sorry you have struggled with depression. You may have answered this, > but I have been busy and unable to follow posts this past week - Has the LDN > helped relieve the depression? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 Hi Steve,I was all set to see Dr. Berskon and then SuziQ from this site helped me to find a naturopath in Portland who would do the same thing (at about the same cost), So I had about two weeks of twice daily IV drips of ALA (totaling 1,000mg a day) along with 4G of mehtylated B12 each day.My hepatologists *strongly* recommended interferon but I kept reading horror stories of the side effects, some of them permanent. My liver is already in bad shape (cirrhosis) and I suffer from chronic fatigue as well so I didn't want to take the chance of ending up still having the virus and a more screwed up body.There is a helpful group (like this one) that is specifically devoted to alternate treatments for Hepatitis (including Hepatitis C ). You can find it at:Hepatitis_Children_and_CAM_Alternatives Joyce, the moderator, is passionate about alternative treatments (including LDN) for Hepatitis as they helped turn her daughter's Hepatitis B around. She has lots of resources in the 'files' section of that site. Plus there is an ongoing discussion of what people are doing and how it is helping.It's a much smaller group than this, but it seems to be slowly growing.It's too soon to tell if the ALA has helped. I would say I feel at least a little bit better than before I did it, but it's been hard to tell as I started the LDN at the same time and I had a little trouble getting my body adjusted to it.The people in this group and the other are very helpful and many are eager to share their knowledge and experience.I'd be interested hearing more of your interferon experience. You might do better to either post it in the other group or email me. It's probably not relevant to LDN so this group wouldn't be a good place for that discussion!Keep us posted about your LDN experience!Cheers, McGovern>> ,> Did you go see Dr. Berkson for the ALA IV's? How long did you do the IV's? I've got Hep C as well. I do the ALA orally, I did the interferon for four months which I really regret doing it really screwed my body up! I just got my LDN today it sounds like I'm in for some fun!> > Cheers Mate.> Steve> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 bi-polar is often thyroid problems > > , > I just attended a 4 day medical conference on chronic fatigue syndrome. > Hopefully my report on it will be online soon. > > One thing they presented that was curious was how they distinguish > depression from cfs. If they ask a cfs patient what they would do tomorrow > if they were suddenly well, the cfs patient would give them a LIST. If they > asked a depressed patient, the patient would sit there, think a bit, and > then say, " I don't know. " > > I wonder where you fit in this? Also, I hasten to add, that I guess if you > had mood swings like bi-polar it would depend on how you felt that day, > right? > > a > > > Hi a, > > I am taking a couple of antidepressants...5htp and metafolin (a form of > foilc acid that helps some people with depression). > > The LDN does seem to be helping a little. I've only just got the evening > dosing to a point where I can sleep and I definitely notice more > 'endorphin-like' feelings during the day with evening dosing. > > The only time I am really depressed these days is when my fatigue is so bad > that I can hardly engage in any physical activity. The LDN and possibly the > IV ALA protocol I just went through might be helping with that. > > I have also recently joined a therapy group that provides me with some > support. Plus I have to work with the cognitive traps my mind sets for me. > > One of my theories is that the body is very wise and also economical. When a > person such as I is suffering from a chronic disease, the body wants to > concentrate on healing and dealing with the imbalance caused by the disease. > The body finds it easier, my theory postulates, to heal when it is inside > sitting down or lying down. And how to make sure the body isn't expending a > lot of energy going outside engaging in the world? Make it depressed, that's > how! > > When I'm depressed, nothing looks or sounds like it would be fun. I don't > want to see people, go to the zoo, or even listen to music that I like. I'm > sleepy a lot and engage in activities that require minimal brain > function...like reading easy-to-read mysteries. > > Anyway...that's my theory. Thanks for asking. > > Cheers, > > McGovern > > Thanks for asking! > > Cheers, > > McGovern > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 But licorice root will help to support weak adrenals and enough Magnesium balance is very helpful, too. Both are compatible with LDN. mjh , have you had a 24 hour urine or salivary cortisol test and a DHEA test?Low adrenal output can make you depressed, anxious and irritable, SSRIs and the like won't do much for it.anne A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 Very interested to see this report. My doc asked me something similar to distinguish between CFS depression and regular depression. He also asked, after exercise do you feel beter or worse? A little simplistic but a basically depressed person will feel brighter, a CFS person worse. Of course it is still possible to have CFS concurrently with clinical depression. , have you had a 24 hour urine or salivary cortisol test and a DHEA test? Low adrenal output can make you depressed, anxious and irritable, SSRIs and the like won't do much for it. anne > , > I just attended a 4 day medical conference on chronic fatigue syndrome. > Hopefully my report on it will be online soon. > > One thing they presented that was curious was how they distinguish > depression from cfs. If they ask a cfs patient what they would do tomorrow > if they were suddenly well, the cfs patient would give them a LIST. If they > asked a depressed patient, the patient would sit there, think a bit, and > then say, " I don't know. " > > I wonder where you fit in this? Also, I hasten to add, that I guess if you > had mood swings like bi-polar it would depend on how you felt that day, > right? > > a > > > Hi a, > > I am taking a couple of antidepressants...5htp and metafolin (a form of > foilc acid that helps some people with depression). > > The LDN does seem to be helping a little. I've only just got the evening > dosing to a point where I can sleep and I definitely notice more > 'endorphin-like' feelings during the day with evening dosing. > > The only time I am really depressed these days is when my fatigue is so bad > that I can hardly engage in any physical activity. The LDN and possibly the > IV ALA protocol I just went through might be helping with that. > > I have also recently joined a therapy group that provides me with some > support. Plus I have to work with the cognitive traps my mind sets for me. > > One of my theories is that the body is very wise and also economical. When a > person such as I is suffering from a chronic disease, the body wants to > concentrate on healing and dealing with the imbalance caused by the disease. > The body finds it easier, my theory postulates, to heal when it is inside > sitting down or lying down. And how to make sure the body isn't expending a > lot of energy going outside engaging in the world? Make it depressed, that's > how! > > When I'm depressed, nothing looks or sounds like it would be fun. I don't > want to see people, go to the zoo, or even listen to music that I like. I'm > sleepy a lot and engage in activities that require minimal brain > function...like reading easy-to-read mysteries. > > Anyway...that's my theory. Thanks for asking. > > Cheers, > > McGovern > > Thanks for asking! > > Cheers, > > McGovern > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 Hi a, That is fascinating. I am definitely on the *LIST* side of this question! The most frustrating thing about the fatigue is that I can't *get* to the items on my list. I'll bet I could easily create a list of a hundred things I would do if I had energy tomorrow. Having little energy for five years has resulted in a back log. Thanks for that distinction..it helps me think that my depression is under control. Now if I could just get some energy! Cheers, McGovern > > , > I just attended a 4 day medical conference on chronic fatigue syndrome. > Hopefully my report on it will be online soon. > > One thing they presented that was curious was how they distinguish > depression from cfs. If they ask a cfs patient what they would do tomorrow > if they were suddenly well, the cfs patient would give them a LIST. If they > asked a depressed patient, the patient would sit there, think a bit, and > then say, " I don't know. " > > I wonder where you fit in this? Also, I hasten to add, that I guess if you > had mood swings like bi-polar it would depend on how you felt that day, > right? > > a > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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