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> From: " Mann " <jmann@...>

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> Can anybody tell me what glutamine is? Is it a medicine or a supplement?

> A previous post said that it is a preferred intestineal nutrient. Thanks,

>

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Hi ,

L-Glutamine is an amino acid. Its a supplement available at health food

stores.. I wouldn't be without it. Its food for the brain and the immune

sytem, the intestinal value was news to me! You

must take it on a empty stomach, I do it before bed. Started with 500mg and

went up to 1500mg. Its recommened in Klatz's book on HgH as a natural

growth hormone realeasor. Also one of the

few things that is still CHEAP!

Marcia

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> > Can anybody tell me what glutamine is? Is it a medicine

> or a supplement?

Konlee strongly recommends glutamine for gut healing. He

suggests 10 - 20 grams/day. I buy it in powder form

and eat it by the spoonful. Konlee's web address is:

http://www.execpc.com/~keephope/

Not sure if its doing anything, but medline articles

about glutamine are very impressive.

Patti

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At 11:59 AM 12/08/1999 -0800, you wrote:

>From: Hess <pchess@...>

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>Does anybody know about reliable brands of glutamine? Hopefully

it is pure, without other ingredients, and it gives you results.

I am interested in intestinal and muscle repair. >

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the boston buyer's club has this product in a one kilo jar for

about $68.00 plus shipping. it is JARROW powder, a good brand.

will post the website to list.

nancy

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> >Does anybody know about reliable brands of glutamine? Hopefully

> it is pure, without other ingredients, and it gives you results.

> I am interested in intestinal and muscle repair. >

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> the boston buyer's club has this product in a one kilo jar for

> about $68.00 plus shipping. it is JARROW powder, a good brand.

I just ordered 1kilo for $47.50 from beyond-a-century. I don't

know the brand name, but I do know that most companies buy

from the same source and just put their label on. The only

affordable way to take the quantities recommended in some

of the literature is to buy bulk powder and take it by the

spoonful.

Patti

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At 05:54 PM 12/8/99 -0700, you wrote:

>From: " Skari, M " <SkariPM@...>

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>> the boston buyer's club has this product in a one kilo jar for

>> about $68.00 plus shipping. it is JARROW powder, a good brand.

>

>I just ordered 1kilo for $47.50 from beyond-a-century. I don't

>know the brand name, but I do know that most companies buy

>from the same source and just put their label on. The only

>affordable way to take the quantities recommended in some

>of the literature is to buy bulk powder and take it by the

>spoonful.

>

Patti and ,

Do you notice improvements and how much do you take?

I have tried cheap internet stuff and it bothered me. The one I liked some

of the time was Bronsons.

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other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment

discussed here, please consult your doctor.

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> Do you notice improvements and how much do you take?

Yes. I notice I hardly have any gas or bloating

when I take it. I think I'm able to digest proteins better

(doesn't feel like a ball of lead in my stomach). A friend

of mine has crohn's in addition to CFIDS/FM/MCS and she

has noticed a lot of benefit. Helps her calm a crohn's attack.

I think she takes 15 grams/day. I take 5 or 10 grams/day.

I may increase when I get my order comes in. I found that

one very rounded teaspoon equals a little less than 5 grams.

I take one rounded teaspoon at night, but I often forget to

take it in the morning.

Since I'm taking more things in bulk powders I bought

a nifty scale to check how much I'm taking. I don't measure

every day, I just find measure out a container, like a teaspoon,

and then calculate how many teaspoons I need to take.

I love my little scale. It has a 10mg to 10 gram capacity.

Patti

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At 07:04 PM 12/8/99 -0700, you wrote:

>From: " Skari, M " <SkariPM@...>

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>>

>Yes. I notice I hardly have any gas or bloating

>when I take it. I think I'm able to digest proteins better

>(doesn't feel like a ball of lead in my stomach).

>I love my little scale.

>

>Patti,

Thanks for the excellent info, it gives me hope and I will try Jarrow from

the store tomorrow.

About your scale: It is nice to have little objects of affection that also

make you feel more in control of things!

Healthy regards,

>--

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>>This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each

other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment

discussed here, please consult your doctor.

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At 05:40 PM 12/08/1999 -0800, you wrote:

>From: Hess <pchess@...>

>

>Do you notice improvements and how much do you take?

>I have tried cheap internet stuff and it bothered me.

The one I liked some of the time was Bronsons.

>>--

paul, jarrow is a brand that is REASONABLE through

boston buyer's but is expensive in a store, so i

do not put it in the same category as a

CHEAP INTERNET STUFF BRAND.

i have been using jarrow products, and i like them,

so this bottle, when i open it, i assume is also good.

by the way, i know people who love NUTRICOLOGY AND

ALLERGY RESEARCH GROUP products, so i take exception

of your critique of a week ago.

thanks,

nancy mcfadden

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Hi, Mike & Jo,

>L-glutamine is stimulating. I can only take a small amount (maybe 100

>to 200 mg) at a time. And I take it in the morning so it doesn't affect

>sleep. Good luck, jo >>

>

>Jo, are you sure you don't have L-glut mixed up with something else? >Dr.

>Salvato

>recommends 10-20 grams per day, and I have seen it recommended elsewhere

>in those amounts for PWCs. I take 5 grams per day w/ no problems.

l-Glutamine will spontaneously hydrolyse to l-glutamate; glutamate is the

excitatory neurotransmitter that in high concentrations _in the brain_

becomes excitotoxic. (The glutamate-responsive neurons essentially fire

themselves to death responding to the high levels.)

Glutamine will hydrolyse faster if wet (doesn't keep in solution well at

all), and if pH becomes acidic (as willl happen when a solution is allowed

to stand in air, or starts growing contaminants.) For that reason I recommen

that any glutamine that you buy be in dry form (powder or capsules) and be

stored somewhere besides bathroom or kitchen.

But there are, at least in most people, very tight controls on the amount of

glutamate that is allowed into the brain; that should keep even high levels

of oral intake of glutamine safe (glutamate too, altho glutamine is more

beneficial) . There may be some people who are sensitive to lower levels of

glutamate (like Chinese restaurant headache some get when MSG is used), so I

would advise starting at low levels before going to this high glutamine

intake.

Jerry

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After writing last night that glutamine didn't act like a stimulant on me,

I went into the kitchen and mixed about 5 grams in juice and drank it.

I barely slept all night. So I will only be taking it in the morning from

now on.

Mike

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Re: Glutamine

After writing last night that glutamine didn't act like a stimulant on me,I went into the kitchen and mixed about 5 grams in juice and drank it.I barely slept all night. So I will only be taking it in the morning fromnow on.Mike

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I have been taking it for about two years. When I first started taking it,

almost everything I ate caused discomfort, now I experience very few

noticeable symptoms and when I do, I usually uncover a supplement as the

cause. I used to take 3,000 - 4,000 mg a day. After I started feeling

better, I lower the dose to 1,500 - 2,000 mg per day. I cannot recommend it

though because I have read conflicting info on whether people with cfs/me

should take it. It seems glutamate is to me avoid it, I cannot remember

why, so I think you should wait to hear from another source who is better

informed before acting.

A few other items that helped me were, aloe juice, boswella, ginger, betain

hydrochloride and digestive emzymes

Tracey

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of thescriptfiles

Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 2:43 PM

Subject: glutamine

I guess most cfs/me people have a gut that could function better, I heard

that glutamine is supposed to be great for leaky gut and helping gut

function and supposedly lots of other good functions, I just cant seem to

fing many cfs/me people who use it who could give me advice, any one use

it????

cheers JIM

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Hi Jim,

I read a book by Dr. Russel Blaylock, " the Taste that Kills " regarding

excitotoxins. Glutamine is needed by the brain for memory and other important

function but excess glutamate from the various sources, glutamine, glutamic

acid, aspartates, and other sources) can cause excitotoxicity in the brain. The

glutamate is a stimulant while the reverse GABA is inhibitory. The brain can

control both as needed but when the diet is high in excitotoxins (the worst

being MSG) then the nerves are stimulated and experience early death. This is a

cumulative effect and isn't noticeable until a particular level is reached.

There are some You Tube videos of Dr. Blaylock giving a presentation or you can

read his book. The autistic population limits glutamates and increases GABA. I

did the same for years (or so I thought). Eating processed foods exposes one to

high levels of glutamate as it is/can be in natural flavors, artifical flavors,

and other sneaky way that mfgers get it in there.

Having said all of that, I have heard good reports on healing leaky gut with

glutamine. I have considered do a month or two but I have not been comfortable

with the price tag associated with it.(meaning long term effects)

HTH,

Marti

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> I guess most cfs/me people have a gut that could function better, I heard that

glutamine is supposed to be great for leaky gut and helping gut function and

supposedly lots of other good functions, I just cant seem to fing many cfs/me

people who use it who could give me advice, any one use it????

> cheers JIM

>

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PS: I also take Gaba now, which marti mentions in the post that follow mine,

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of Tracey de Morsella

Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 5:18 PM

Subject: RE: glutamine

I have been taking it for about two years. When I first started taking it,

almost everything I ate caused discomfort, now I experience very few

noticeable symptoms and when I do, I usually uncover a supplement as the

cause. I used to take 3,000 - 4,000 mg a day. After I started feeling

better, I lower the dose to 1,500 - 2,000 mg per day. I cannot recommend it

though because I have read conflicting info on whether people with cfs/me

should take it. It seems glutamate is to me avoid it, I cannot remember

why, so I think you should wait to hear from another source who is better

informed before acting.

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I'm really sleeply and tired from work. I forgot another important

supplement. I also took extremely high doses of probiotics and rotated them

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of Tracey de Morsella

Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 5:18 PM

Subject: RE: glutamine

A few other items that helped me were, aloe juice, boswella, ginger, betain

hydrochloride and digestive emzymes

Tracey

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<mailto:%40>

[mailto:

<mailto:%40> ] On Behalf Of thescriptfiles

Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 2:43 PM

<mailto:%40>

Subject: glutamine

I guess most cfs/me people have a gut that could function better, I heard

that glutamine is supposed to be great for leaky gut and helping gut

function and supposedly lots of other good functions, I just cant seem to

fing many cfs/me people who use it who could give me advice, any one use

it????

cheers JIM

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L-glutamine is a plentiful amino acid that is very good for growth, especially

the growth and repair of the intestinal lining, but all over too.

all good,

Duncan

>

> Sol,what kind of results with l glutamine? Deb

> --aliano

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Glutamine is the major amino acid of milk, so, no, Elaine, it doesn't have to be

taken on an empty stomach but is part of a food regimen.

Duncan

> >

> > L-glutamine is a plentiful amino acid that is very good for growth,

especially the growth and repair of the intestinal lining, but all over too.

> >

> > all good,

> >

> > Duncan

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I am referring to L-glutamine supplementation, not intake from food/diet. I'll

just try to take it on an empty stomach if possible to be safe.

> > >

> > > L-glutamine is a plentiful amino acid that is very good for growth,

especially the growth and repair of the intestinal lining, but all over too.

> > >

> > > all good,

> > >

> > > Duncan

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