Andy, Dana, or anyone else with advise

[Guest guest]

We have been chelating my 7yo son on 25mg of DMSA every 4 hours on the

weekends for about 2 months now. After every treatment, we tend to

have problems with yeast. I have him on 4 gms Biotin, at least 5 gms

Vit C, and 125mg GSE daily for yeast. We did notice that if we took 11

days off of chelating, our yeast problems were better. Do you think we

should continue at 11 days off or stay at 4 days off and add more

antiyeast products?

We are getting great results with chelating and are hesitant to slow

down but we also would like to keep the yeast under control.

He is also on OLE 1500mg a day. Can OLE kick up the yeast also?

I also remember that GSE should not be a suppliment used everyday. If

you always have yeast problems, why can't you use GSE every day? What

are the problems with supplimenting it every day?

Thanks soooo much for your help!

Kelley

[Guest guest]

Hi Kelley,

Does your 7 year old weigh over 100lb? That's a high dose for 7 yo.

100 pounds or more it would be 1/4 mg per pound at 25mg. Maybe halve

the dose and see if yeast isn't such an issue. It will still chelate.

GSE kills yeast and other good bacteria. That is why not every day

forever. We did use it every day while getting yeast under control.

Better to not stir up so much yeast though.

P.

kamstone6 wrote:

>

> We have been chelating my 7yo son on 25mg of DMSA every 4 hours on the

> weekends for about 2 months now. After every treatment, we tend to

> have problems with yeast. I have him on 4 gms Biotin, at least 5 gms

> Vit C, and 125mg GSE daily for yeast. We did notice that if we took 11

> days off of chelating, our yeast problems were better. Do you think we

> should continue at 11 days off or stay at 4 days off and add more

> antiyeast products?

>

> We are getting great results with chelating and are hesitant to slow

> down but we also would like to keep the yeast under control.

>

> He is also on OLE 1500mg a day. Can OLE kick up the yeast also?

>

> I also remember that GSE should not be a suppliment used everyday. If

> you always have yeast problems, why can't you use GSE every day? What

> are the problems with supplimenting it every day?

> Thanks soooo much for your help!

> Kelley

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> We have been chelating my 7yo son on 25mg of DMSA every 4 hours on the

> weekends for about 2 months now. After every treatment, we tend to

> have problems with yeast. I have him on 4 gms Biotin,

Four grams of biotin? That would be like giving him an entire bottle

per day [which I have done, altho not with biotin]. Are you sure you

don't mean mg?

>>at least 5 gms

> Vit C,

This will tend to increase yeast if it is eliminating viruses.

>>and 125mg GSE daily for yeast. We did notice that if we took 11

> days off of chelating, our yeast problems were better. Do you think we

> should continue at 11 days off or stay at 4 days off and add more

> antiyeast products?

I did 3/11 if I was unable to control yeast, and 3/4 the rest of the

time. So if you are having problems with yeast control, then you can

do 3/11. Or, increase the yeast protocol. For example, I gave 20mg

biotin 3x per day, plus GSE [more than 125mg] with each of the three

biotin doses.

> He is also on OLE 1500mg a day. Can OLE kick up the yeast also?

Yep, big time. Viral die off caused MUCH more yeast here than

chelation did.

> I also remember that GSE should not be a suppliment used everyday.

I used it every day for over 4 years. You can use it every day if you

are doing protocols that tend to increase yeast [like chelation and

anti-virals]. If you give it when there is no yeast present, it will

tend to cause a bad bacteria problem. But so long as there is yeast

present, you can give it every day.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Thanks for all the great advice.  You were correct.  My Biotin is from Carlson

and is 1000 mcg a tablet.  So I am giving him 4 mg a day, divided in 4 doses. 

Should I increase the Biotin?  How can you tell when and if you have completed

the viral die off or bacterial die off?  As you can tell we are treating both

right now.  If the viruses are gone, then the suppliments we are using are no

longer needed in such high doses and could be causing the increased yeast.  I am

trying to figue out if it is the chicken or the egg!

Thanks,

Kelley

From: danasview <danasview@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: Andy, Dana, or anyone else with advise

Date: Friday, November 7, 2008, 10:45 AM

>

> We have been chelating my 7yo son on 25mg of DMSA every 4 hours on the

> weekends for about 2 months now. After every treatment, we tend to

> have problems with yeast. I have him on 4 gms Biotin,

Four grams of biotin? That would be like giving him an entire bottle

per day [which I have done, altho not with biotin]. Are you sure you

don't mean mg?

>>at least 5 gms

> Vit C,

This will tend to increase yeast if it is eliminating viruses.

>>and 125mg GSE daily for yeast. We did notice that if we took 11

> days off of chelating, our yeast problems were better. Do you think we

> should continue at 11 days off or stay at 4 days off and add more

> antiyeast products?

I did 3/11 if I was unable to control yeast, and 3/4 the rest of the

time. So if you are having problems with yeast control, then you can

do 3/11. Or, increase the yeast protocol. For example, I gave 20mg

biotin 3x per day, plus GSE [more than 125mg] with each of the three

biotin doses.

> He is also on OLE 1500mg a day. Can OLE kick up the yeast also?

Yep, big time. Viral die off caused MUCH more yeast here than

chelation did.

> I also remember that GSE should not be a suppliment used everyday.

I used it every day for over 4 years. You can use it every day if you

are doing protocols that tend to increase yeast [like chelation and

anti-virals] . If you give it when there is no yeast present, it will

tend to cause a bad bacteria problem. But so long as there is yeast

present, you can give it every day.

Dana

[Guest guest]

> Thanks for all the great advice. You were correct. My Biotin is

from Carlson and is 1000 mcg a tablet. So I am giving him 4 mg a day,

divided in 4 doses. Should I increase the Biotin?

You can. The most I gave my son was 20mg 3x per day.

>>How can you tell when and if you have completed the viral die off or

bacterial die off?

Bacteria was somewhat easier, I looked for loss of symptoms, and even

the anti-bacteria started causing problems.

Viruses took 4 years to eliminate [could have been 2 years if I knew

then what I know now]. At first, I only realized I was addressing

viruses when I tried to remove something that acted as an anti-viral.

Later on, loss of symptoms did not necessarily mean the end of the

viruses. But eventually a combination of factors told me that the

viruses were gone.

>>As you can tell we are treating both right now. If the viruses are

gone, then the suppliments we are using are no longer needed in such

high doses and could be causing the increased yeast.

If you are giving anti-virals and you have increased yeast, it is

likely that there are still viruses. Anti-virals did not cause yeast

here, once the viruses were gone.

Dana