Re: protein question

[Guest guest]

For me, it seems that the more protein I have the better.

In fact, every morning I take Twin Labs Liquid Protein

Power. Days when I miss taking it, I can definitely tell

a difference in my strength level.

Jenn

>

> Hi, does anyone know how much Protein is to much (And whay it hurts).

> I am 34 Years old 6' tall and weigh 137 Pounds Type III. I am working

> out and know I need it to rebuild muscle but don't want to hurt

> myself. Thank you in advance.

>

> Terry

>

> Use to be (tntw6ms)

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HI THERE,

I THINK IT REALLY DOESN'T MATTER HOW MUCH PROTEIN U GET AS LONG AS UR BODY

USES IT AND IT IS NOT SPILLING OUT IN YOUR URINE, WHEN IT DOES THIS THEN U ARE

GETTING TO MUCH. IF NOT TOTALLY SURE, ASK A DOCTOR OR HAVE ANSWER IT WHERE

U ASL A QUESTION AND MANY PEOPLE ANSWER IT. SOME STUPID BUT SOME ARE NURSES,

PHARMACIST, ECT.. U WILL BE ABLE TO FIND SOME GOOD ANSWERS, WIKIPEDIA MAY ALSO

HAVE ANSWERS ABOUT PROTEINS.

RAINEY

tntw6 <tntw6@...> wrote:

Hi, does anyone know how much Protein is to much (And whay it hurts).

I am 34 Years old 6' tall and weigh 137 Pounds Type III. I am working

out and know I need it to rebuild muscle but don't want to hurt

myself. Thank you in advance.

Terry

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I have read that to much Protein in SMA people can be harmfull. I

have found several items on it but none say how much is ok. I know

it's less than a non SMA person just can't ind how much. Thanks or

the reply I'll try asking on also.

> Hi, does anyone know how much Protein is to much (And

whay it hurts).

> I am 34 Years old 6' tall and weigh 137 Pounds Type III. I am

working

> out and know I need it to rebuild muscle but don't want to hurt

> myself. Thank you in advance.

>

> Terry

>

> Use to be (tntw6ms)

>

>

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I have just started taking Protein powder also I am working out also.

I am hoping it will do the same for me. Thanks

> >

> > Hi, does anyone know how much Protein is to much (And whay it

hurts).

> > I am 34 Years old 6' tall and weigh 137 Pounds Type III. I am

working

> > out and know I need it to rebuild muscle but don't want to hurt

> > myself. Thank you in advance.

> >

> > Terry

> >

> > Use to be (tntw6ms)

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Gwen, that certainly DOES sound like RNY guidelines to me. The most I was ever

told to get in was 60 grams and I believe that was during the healing process

just post-op. I do tend to get in about 40-60 grams a day now though. M

@...: gkeyt@...: Tue, 25 Mar

2008 01:29:42 +0000Subject: Protein question

Okay, I had to find a new band surgeon to follow up with since I moved away from

Portland, where my surgeon is. The new person I saw told me that I should be

eating about 90gm of protein a day. That is nearly twice as much as I was told

by my surgeon in Portland. He based this 90 gm per day on my current lean body

mass of about 60 kg (actually 55kg) and said I need 1.5gm/kg. My other surgeon

told me 45-52 gm/day based on my size at the time of my surgery.I have never

heard of a bandster being told to eat this much protein. I currently weigh 180

lbs, am 5'3.5 " . I work out frequently (5-6 days a week, and lift weights 3

days/week). Does anyone else have a protein requirement this high? I think it

will be difficult to meet this without resorting to at least one protein shake,

which I absolutely do not want to do. I am wondering if this might be a case of

a surgeon using his bypass recommendations for a band patient? I didn't think to

ask him how many of his patients are banded, but I know he does a lot of bands

and his practice is a Center of Excellence, so he's met a minimum number of

procedures. He was recommended to me by my other surgeon, and otherwise he seems

knowledgable and competent.Thanks for any input!Gwen

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Gwen, This is bypass protein needs. All people need 0.8 gm of protein

per kg of idea body weight (not actual body weight). Our extra fat

needs no extra protein - only muscle needs protein.

for 99% of all women, thisd is 50-60 gm a day - and this is where

these Bandster guidelines come from. You're working oput as lot

(maybe too much) so need the upper end of thsi rnage, most likely.

Further, if you're using up 90 gms worth of protein calories a day,

there will not be enough left in our 1200-1500 cal day to meet the

fiber, calcium, good carb, and calcium needs. we need roughly about

15% of the diet in protein, 55% in carbs, and the rest in good fats

and oils, which are as essential as the protein and fiber.

Most people need an omega 3 oil supplement to supply the fats.

Most COE's in bariatric surgery are not experienced in bands. Some

have done none at all. Many doc who are primarily bypass docs don;

know the many different and unique band needs, sadly.

Sandy r

>

> Okay, I had to find a new band surgeon to follow up with since I

moved

> away from Portland, where my surgeon is. The new person I saw told

me

> that I should be eating about 90gm of protein a day. That is

nearly

> twice as much as I was told by my surgeon in Portland. He based

this

> 90 gm per day on my current lean body mass of about 60 kg (actually

> 55kg) and said I need 1.5gm/kg. My other surgeon told me 45-52

gm/day

> based on my size at the time of my surgery.

>

> I have never heard of a bandster being told to eat this much

protein.

> I currently weigh 180 lbs, am 5'3.5 " . I work out frequently (5-6

days

> a week, and lift weights 3 days/week). Does anyone else have a

protein

> requirement this high? I think it will be difficult to meet this

> without resorting to at least one protein shake, which I absolutely

do

> not want to do. I am wondering if this might be a case of a

surgeon

> using his bypass recommendations for a band patient? I didn't

think to

> ask him how many of his patients are banded, but I know he does a

lot

> of bands and his practice is a Center of Excellence, so he's met a

> minimum number of procedures. He was recommended to me by my other

> surgeon, and otherwise he seems knowledgable and competent.

>

> Thanks for any input!

> Gwen

>

[Guest guest]

I have just changed doctors, instead of driving to Nashville, TN for

a fill I am getting one in my hometown of Murfreesboro. My

Nashville doctor said 60 grams of protein per day.....my Murfreesboro

doctor did some calculations and stated that I specifically needed at

least 71 gm of protein a day......since I have been getting that much

in, my weight loss has started again. But you are correct, I start

my day with a protein shake made with skim milk and it gives me 30

grams to start my day....150 calories....other than that I just eat

the normal bandster way. The added drink is all I needed to kick

start my weight loss again.

>

>

> Gwen, that certainly DOES sound like RNY guidelines to me. The

most I was ever told to get in was 60 grams and I believe that was

during the healing process just post-op. I do tend to get in about

40-60 grams a day now though. M

>

>

> @...: gkeyt@...: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 01:29:42

+0000Subject: Protein question

>

>

>

>

> Okay, I had to find a new band surgeon to follow up with since I

moved away from Portland, where my surgeon is. The new person I saw

told me that I should be eating about 90gm of protein a day. That is

nearly twice as much as I was told by my surgeon in Portland. He

based this 90 gm per day on my current lean body mass of about 60 kg

(actually 55kg) and said I need 1.5gm/kg. My other surgeon told me 45-

52 gm/day based on my size at the time of my surgery.I have never

heard of a bandster being told to eat this much protein. I currently

weigh 180 lbs, am 5'3.5 " . I work out frequently (5-6 days a week, and

lift weights 3 days/week). Does anyone else have a protein

requirement this high? I think it will be difficult to meet this

without resorting to at least one protein shake, which I absolutely

do not want to do. I am wondering if this might be a case of a

surgeon using his bypass recommendations for a band patient? I didn't

think to ask him how many of his patients are banded, but I know he

does a lot of bands and his practice is a Center of Excellence, so

he's met a minimum number of procedures. He was recommended to me by

my other surgeon, and otherwise he seems knowledgable and

competent.Thanks for any input!Gwen

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I feel blessed that I have a surgeon here in Spokane, WA who not only

educates his patients and does monthly follow-ups for one year after surgery

but also has extensively researched nutritional needs for WLS patients. He

performs both bypass and lapband surgeries. I had the lapband procedure.

He has a machine that measures the amount of protein and fat in our bodies

every month to be sure that our weight loss is not from loosing protein.

That is how he decided how much protein his individual patients need. After

surgery, while I was having three protein shakes a day, I was getting around

60 g but my protein level was slightly decreased at the one month

measurement – a not too uncommon occurrence. When I began eating food, I

was encouraged to get more than 60 g and remeasured a month later. My

protein level was stable. I was probably eating 70 – 80 grams a day. At 3

months, we have blood tests to check our vitamins and mineral levels as

well. I have friend in the medical community here and she says that most

docs refer their WLS patients who have deficiencies, the most common being

protein, to him. It is a long process to get their levels up and being

deficient in protein is a very serious medical problem. He also recommends

that we eat carbs, fats, etc. but the most critical thing is protein and not

becoming deficient in it.

Kathy

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Hello,

I do 2 protein shakes daily. They are about 190 calories each and

have 35 grames protein.Very low carb and sugars.When I cut them out

my weight loss stops and my hair falls out and I feel extremely

tired.Doing the shakes hasn't caused any bad effects thus far.The

protein also helps control my hunger and keeps the cravings at

bay.Not the typical Bandster way but works for me.I'm not a typical

bandster either.I am banded over a RNY.Had a revision surgery Dec 06

and have lost 76 pounds since then.I am still losing just much

slower now at about 2-3 pounds per month sometimes less sometimes

more.Even with no fill at all I can't eat 1-1 1/2 cups food per

sitting.I can eat 1/2 -3/4 c. most days/things.I have to supplement

excessively as well.No way can I eat enough to get the required

amounts of protein,carbs,fats,fibers,I must supplement.I do love my

Champion Pure Whey Choc.shakes though.

SharonS

In , " mlrckm1 " <lmccann@...> wrote:

>

> I have just changed doctors, instead of driving to Nashville, TN

for

> a fill I am getting one in my hometown of Murfreesboro. My

> Nashville doctor said 60 grams of protein per day.....my

Murfreesboro

> doctor did some calculations and stated that I specifically needed

at

> least 71 gm of protein a day......since I have been getting that

much

> in, my weight loss has started again. But you are correct, I

start

> my day with a protein shake made with skim milk and it gives me 30

> grams to start my day....150 calories....other than that I just

eat

> the normal bandster way. The added drink is all I needed to kick

> start my weight loss again.

>

[Guest guest]

Most researchers feel that people in the US actually get far too much

protein, and this is a big reason for the obesity epidemic.

I'm interested to learn why some docs don't believe the national

recommendation for protein, hat has been researchedand proven for man

yers. I was part of a WLS study for 4 years hat carefully looked at

protein and vitamin levels post-op. We were all getting the standard

0.8 gm of protein per day per kg, and not one person in the study was

protein deficient, after a regular battery of tests. (if they were

eating well)

I know some docs have sophisticated " tests " that " show " a potein

defiiency, and then are happy to sell potein supplments to make more

money. This seems suspicious to me, and I'd want proof. Obese people

are oftrn very gullible sand will try or buy anything if told it

helps.

I know a couple docs up there alo require such a strict pre-op and

post-op diet that they MAKE their patients protein deficient (and

they heal poorly, etc too from deficient diet). some allow no milk

ever, extended clear liquids after surger, only 3 tiny meals a day,

etc.

they are considered rogues and many ptents leave or do very poorly.

Lots of differences between docs, and it's good to do a lot of

research before choosing one.

Sandy

>

> I feel blessed that I have a surgeon here in Spokane, WA who not

only

> educates his patients and does monthly follow-ups for one year

after surgery

> but also has extensively researched nutritional needs for WLS

patients. He

> performs both bypass and lapband surgeries. I had the lapband

procedure.

> He has a machine that measures the amount of protein and fat in our

bodies

> every month to be sure that our weight loss is not from loosing

protein.

> That is how he decided how much protein his individual patients

need. After

> surgery, while I was having three protein shakes a day, I was

getting around

> 60 g but my protein level was slightly decreased at the one month

> measurement – a not too uncommon occurrence. When I began eating

food, I

> was encouraged to get more than 60 g and remeasured a month later.

My

> protein level was stable. I was probably eating 70 – 80 grams a

day. At 3

> months, we have blood tests to check our vitamins and mineral

levels as

> well. I have friend in the medical community here and she says

that most

> docs refer their WLS patients who have deficiencies, the most

common being

> protein, to him. It is a long process to get their levels up and

being

> deficient in protein is a very serious medical problem. He also

recommends

> that we eat carbs, fats, etc. but the most critical thing is

protein and not

> becoming deficient in it.

>

> Kathy

>

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[Guest guest]

I can't prove it, but many believe that your body can't process over

about 20-25 grams of protein at once anyway, so might as well spread

out that shake. Half now, half later, whatever.

Also, the amount of protein needed depends in part on whether you're

actively trying to builid muscle, to maintain, etc.

Tuesday, March 25, 2008, 8:21:27 AM, you wrote:

> But you are correct, I start

> my day with a protein shake made with skim milk and it gives me 30

> grams to start my day....150 calories....other than that I just eat

> the normal bandster way. The added drink is all I needed to kick

> start my weight loss again.

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Started at 355, at goal in the 210-220 range for almost 4 years

Ultimate goal of 195 Tummytuck in Boise and SmartLipo in Tijuana

[Guest guest]

I agree on this. I'm ALWAYS suspicious of someone who says I need more

something (protein, vitamins, whatever else) if THEY are selling it.

I'm sure that someone selling Ben and Jerry's would tell me that there

is some reason I NEED more of it.

Same as you absolutely NEEDING a navigation system in your little car

that only drives you to work, the grocery, and church, and you KNOW

where those are. Now if you WANT one and can afford it, cool. They're

neat (and no don't have one). Or in some jobs they may almost be

NEEDED and may be helpful.

But all too often people can't distinguish (or at least don't) between

WANTS and NEEDS.

Thus endeth Grandpa Lecture Number 47.

dan

Tuesday, March 25, 2008, 11:04:47 AM, you wrote:

> I know some docs have sophisticated " tests " that " show " a potein

> defiiency, and then are happy to sell potein supplments to make more

> money. This seems suspicious to me, and I'd want proof. Obese people

> are oftrn very gullible sand will try or buy anything if told it

> helps.

--

" It's OK to be a little broken, everybody's broken in this life " Jon Bon Jovi

Dan Lester, Boise, Idaho, USA www.mylapband.tk

Banded 4/27/03, Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana

Started at 355, at goal in the 210-220 range for almost 4 years

Ultimate goal of 195 Tummytuck in Boise and SmartLipo in Tijuana

[Guest guest]

I think the reason my doctor believes so strongly in each individual patient

getting an adequate amount of protein is because of all the protein

deficient ones he treats from other doctors, some from other places and some

here, too, who do poor education and poor follow-up. He doesn’t sell

protein powders so the test he uses is probably the same one from your 4

year study. He also didn’t require any pre-op diet and the post-op diet

was to give time for healing and the protein powder I used is used with

milk. I certainly have heard of those who are on clear liquids for

extended times after surgery and also some who have pre-op diets. Some of

them indicated that the pre op diet was an insurance requirement. I was

never on a diet of just clear liquids although I could have them and really

found chicken broth much tastier than ever before. There does seem to be

lots of differences between docs and having a friend who can ask the right

questions of the medical professional community here plus lots and lots of

research including going to support groups and asking lots of questions of

those who had had the surgery (I would never take such a major step without

research) was a great help to me in choosing this particular doctor. I

paid for the surgery myself with money taken from my retirement account and

wanted the best provider I could find.

Kathy

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Thank you Sandy, and all who responded.

I am glad I'm not alone in thinking this is probably a RNY

requirement and not a bandster thing. It just seemed crazy to me,

especially since there is almost no way to get that much protein

without using a shake, which is something I do not want to do (for

all the good reasons Sandy listed, plus I just think we should be

eating real food to meet our needs). I think I will stick to about

60gm (which is a little more than I was told originally but still

reasonable). No sense in making my kidneys work that much harder to

get rid of excess protein.

As far as working out, the USDA exercise recommendation is as follows:

--At least 30 minutes of moderate-intensity physical activity, above

your usual activity, on most days of the week to reduce the risk of

chronic disease in adulthood. Greater health benefits, say the

Guidelines, can be reaped with a more intense program or one that is

of longer duration.

--About 60 minutes of moderate- to vigorous-intensity activity most

days of the week to help manage body weight and prevent gradual,

unhealthy body-weight gain in adulthood.

--At least 60 to 90 minutes of moderate-intensity physical activity

daily to sustain weight loss in adulthood.

This is what I have been aiming for. My strength training is not

anything crazy, but I do it 2-3 days per week. My cardio is walk/run

for about 45 minutes each time--currently I'm running a total of 25

minutes out of that 45. I've worked up to this point over the last 2

years and feel I'm at a good level, not pushing it too much. I

recently purchased a heart rate monitor as well so I can make sure

I'm not overtraining and stressing my heart too much as I start with

the running. As far as I can see, even with the physical activity I

should still be getting plenty of protein to meet my needs without

going to 90 gm per day.

Thanks for everyone's input!

Gwen

p.s. the actual USDA recommendations can be found here:

http://www.health.gov/dietaryguidelines/dga2005/recommendations.htm

>

[Guest guest]

My doctor does not sell protein at all, he doesn't even recommend a

brand of drink.....He just measured and told me to up my amount of

protein....as I have a hard time eating in the morning....drinks work

for me and I do not get hungry until about 12 noon.....now at night

that would be different.....a drink for a meal would not work.....My

doctor also recommends flaxseed oil and B-complex stress vitamins to

help prevent hair loss (if any of you suffer from that). I have

found that I feel better with the shake in the morning with my

vitamins...otherwise, I just couldn't eat.....so I got behind in my

protein count.

I think it is a personal preference.....I do not drink all my meals,

just the morning one and I do follow the bandster rules all other

times and it is working for me....but everyone must find what works

for them, but staying in the basic guidelines and follow your

doctor's advise as he knows you best.

Also, for the fiber....I agree Kashi's Go Lean Crunch is great!

>

> > I know some docs have sophisticated " tests " that " show " a potein

> > defiiency, and then are happy to sell potein supplments to make

more

> > money. This seems suspicious to me, and I'd want proof. Obese

people

> > are oftrn very gullible sand will try or buy anything if told it

> > helps.

>

>

> --

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hair loss happens frequently for two reasons.

1. Anesthesia

2. Significant/rapid weight loss.

You're thus a double winner. Regardless of what extra crap you take

in, what expensive junk you rub on your head, the hair will come

back. Really.

dan

Wednesday, March 26, 2008, 7:24:52 AM, you wrote:

> My

> doctor also recommends flaxseed oil and B-complex stress vitamins to

> help prevent hair loss (if any of you suffer from that).

--

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Dan Lester, Boise, Idaho, USA www.mylapband.tk

Banded 4/27/03, Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana

Started at 355, at goal in the 210-220 range for almost 4 years

Ultimate goal of 195 Tummytuck in Boise and SmartLipo in Tijuana

[Guest guest]

Yes, you're very unique! :-)

People should know that your needs are FAR different than someone who

only has a band. You have had the bypass too, first, so need all the

extra protein and the protein drinks that do NOT work very well, for

most, with a band only.You've really had to forge your own way, and

see your doc regularly re nutritional needs.

I appreciate your reminding people, also, that you're unique - we

have a lot of new people here who might not know this isn't typically

what Bandsters need. You still have malabsorption issues from the

bypass, so need many different things than a Bandster.

Really, you're a " Banded Bypass " person - that is the term we should

use, I think.

Glad you're doing so well now! Way to go!

Sandy r

> >

> > I have just changed doctors, instead of driving to Nashville, TN

> for

> > a fill I am getting one in my hometown of Murfreesboro. My

> > Nashville doctor said 60 grams of protein per day.....my

> Murfreesboro

> > doctor did some calculations and stated that I specifically

needed

> at

> > least 71 gm of protein a day......since I have been getting that

> much

> > in, my weight loss has started again. But you are correct, I

> start

> > my day with a protein shake made with skim milk and it gives me

30

> > grams to start my day....150 calories....other than that I just

> eat

> > the normal bandster way. The added drink is all I needed to

kick

> > start my weight loss again.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

B-12 maybe? Iron? Animal protein is known to warm the body so if you

live in a climate that is cold right now maybe it's just instinctive?

-- In , " ronnimike " <HISSPECIALTOUCH@...>

wrote:

>

> I have noticed that our family has started really craving protein and

> a lot of it.....this seems disturbing to me...because it seems like it

> is too much and I worry that it isn't a good thing for them to do, and

> wonder if they are missing something. I know that a high protein diet

> is harder on the kidney's and can cause ketosis....but they do eat

> some albeit a few carbs....any input would be appreciated.

>

> Ronni

>

[Guest guest]

I would kill to have my 4yo crave protein!

If you eat more protein than your body can handle at one time, the excess

does turn into sugar (I did Atkins for a while, and his book explained it).

And I don't think you need to worry about the kidney thing unless you have a

family history of kidney disease, etc.

Going into ketosis is pretty hard, so if you give them a favorite potato

dish, fruits, or a cup of juice or something like that a day, it should be

fine.

On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 2:56 PM, jficalora <jficalora@...> wrote:

> B-12 maybe? Iron? Animal protein is known to warm the body so if you

> live in a climate that is cold right now maybe it's just instinctive?

>

> -- In , " ronnimike " <HISSPECIALTOUCH@...>

> wrote:

> >

> > I have noticed that our family has started really craving protein and

> > a lot of it.....this seems disturbing to me...because it seems like it

> > is too much and I worry that it isn't a good thing for them to do, and

> > wonder if they are missing something. I know that a high protein diet

> > is harder on the kidney's and can cause ketosis....but they do eat

> > some albeit a few carbs....any input would be appreciated.

> >

> > Ronni

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Protein in general or meat? Plant proteins are easier for the body to process.

S S

protein question

Posted by: " ronnimike " HISSPECIALTOUCH@... ronnimike

Sun Jan 4, 2009 11:48 am (PST)

I have noticed that our family has started really craving protein and

a lot of it.....this seems disturbing to me...because it seems like it

is too much and I worry that it isn't a good thing for them to do, and

wonder if they are missing something. I know that a high protein diet

is harder on the kidney's and can cause ketosis....but they do eat

some albeit a few carbs....any input would be appreciated.

Ronni

[Guest guest]

Thanks Ladies....it might be B12....we have a hard time with getting

it in and keeping it....gut issues...so shots are the tickets...and I

am a weenie sometimes...will try upping it and see if it helps...and

yeah it is cold here.....live in north eastern WA, and it has been 0

and teens or so for a while...but not that cold inside.

Thanks again

Ronni

>

> B-12 maybe? Iron? Animal protein is known to warm the body so if you

> live in a climate that is cold right now maybe it's just instinctive?

>

> -- In , " ronnimike " <HISSPECIALTOUCH@>

> wrote:

> >

> > I have noticed that our family has started really craving protein and

> > a lot of it.....this seems disturbing to me...because it seems like it

> > is too much and I worry that it isn't a good thing for them to do, and

> > wonder if they are missing something. I know that a high protein diet

> > is harder on the kidney's and can cause ketosis....but they do eat

> > some albeit a few carbs....any input would be appreciated.

> >

> > Ronni

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Both actually....meat and beans....not wanting sweets much...just

protein....would love to have nuts, peanuts or eggs...but allergic to

both..

no dairy either...just chicken, turkey and some pork and beans...

> Protein in general or meat? Plant proteins are easier for the body

to process.

> S S

>

> protein question

> Posted by: " ronnimike " HISSPECIALTOUCH@... ronnimike

> Sun Jan 4, 2009 11:48 am (PST)

> I have noticed that our family has started really craving protein and

> a lot of it.....this seems disturbing to me...because it seems like it

> is too much and I worry that it isn't a good thing for them to do, and

> wonder if they are missing something. I know that a high protein diet

> is harder on the kidney's and can cause ketosis....but they do eat

> some albeit a few carbs....any input would be appreciated.

>

> Ronni

>

>

[Guest guest]

They may be on a growth spurt too or it's winter where you live.

Better they crave poultry and beans that sugar. Children do not

usually eat that stuff unless they need it.

>

> Both actually....meat and beans....not wanting sweets much...just

> protein....would love to have nuts, peanuts or eggs...but allergic to

> both..

> no dairy either...just chicken, turkey and some pork and beans...

>

>

> > Protein in general or meat? Plant proteins are easier for the body

> to process.

> > S S

> >

> > protein question

> > Posted by: " ronnimike " HISSPECIALTOUCH@ ronnimike

> > Sun Jan 4, 2009 11:48 am (PST)

> > I have noticed that our family has started really craving protein and

> > a lot of it.....this seems disturbing to me...because it seems like it

> > is too much and I worry that it isn't a good thing for them to do, and

> > wonder if they are missing something. I know that a high protein diet

> > is harder on the kidney's and can cause ketosis....but they do eat

> > some albeit a few carbs....any input would be appreciated.

> >

> > Ronni

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Seeds: Sunflower seeds, pumpkin seeds, etc? Quinoa? Lentils?

S S

Re: protein question

Posted by: " ronnimike " HISSPECIALTOUCH@... ronnimike

Sun Jan 4, 2009 5:39 pm (PST)

Both actually....meat and beans....not wanting sweets much...just

protein....would love to have nuts, peanuts or eggs...but allergic to

both..

no dairy either...just chicken, turkey and some pork and beans...

> Protein in general or meat? Plant proteins are easier for the body

to process.

> S S