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> I understand the benefit of AC protocol. Can anyone speak to doing the

> protocol 3x a day and not at night?

I gave ALA 3x per day. It worked very well for all four of my kids,

and also for myself. It is not the protocol usually recommended on

this forum tho.

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Dana,

May I know why you don't do the dmsa but chose to do ala alone?

On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 10:59 PM, danasview <danasview@...> wrote:

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> >

> > I understand the benefit of AC protocol. Can anyone speak to doing the

> > protocol 3x a day and not at night?

>

> I gave ALA 3x per day. It worked very well for all four of my kids,

> and also for myself. It is not the protocol usually recommended on

> this forum tho.

>

> Dana

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> I understand the benefit of AC protocol. Can anyone speak to doing the

> protocol 3x a day and not at night?

===>Yes, please don't do this. The worse case of permanent regression I ever

heard of was from a mother who was advised to give Ala 3 x a day. The most you

can hope for with giving 3 x a day is that your child won't improve.

Dana has been honest enough to repeatedly say that chelation did not cure her

kids, only made it possible for them to take supplements to " cure " them.

Low/frequent dosing of chelation cured ours, period. She did not require

supplements to complete the process.

There is a big difference in these two statements.

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>I understand the benefit of AC protocol. Can anyone speak to doing the

>protocol 3x a day and not at night?

Yes, it's called the " Chelation Protocol for Parents who Put their

own Sleep Needs ahead of the Child's Health and Well Being " .

It causes redistribution of mercury to the brain.

Might as well do nothing.

>:)

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ouch~ that's harsh Micheal, but I get it, I just started with my son and that 3

am dose is tough....

but as you so eloquently put it, I don't want to do the " Chelation Protocol for

Parents who Put their own Sleep Needs ahead of the Child's Health and Well

Being " either but..................let's be gentle with each other k?

Stacee

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From: Ross <mrossgrp@...>

Sent: Monday, March 2, 2009 10:31:43 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] ac protocol or ALA 3x a day

>I understand the benefit of AC protocol. Can anyone speak to doing the

>protocol 3x a day and not at night?

Yes, it's called the " Chelation Protocol for Parents who Put their

own Sleep Needs ahead of the Child's Health and Well Being " .

It causes redistribution of mercury to the brain.

Might as well do nothing.

>:)

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That gave me a good chuckle, thanks . Those night doses are tough,

no doubt, but they do get easier and once the gains start coming, it's just

incentive to keep going.

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On Behalf Of Stacee

Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 1:51 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] ac protocol or ALA 3x a day

ouch~ that's harsh Micheal, but I get it, I just started with my son and

that 3 am dose is tough....

but as you so eloquently put it, I don't want to do the " Chelation Protocol

for Parents who Put their own Sleep Needs ahead of the Child's Health and

Well Being " either but..................let's be gentle with each other k?

Stacee

________________________________

From: Ross <mrossgrp@... <mailto:mrossgrp%40gmail.com> >

<mailto: %40>

Sent: Monday, March 2, 2009 10:31:43 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] ac protocol or ALA 3x a day

>I understand the benefit of AC protocol. Can anyone speak to doing the

>protocol 3x a day and not at night?

Yes, it's called the " Chelation Protocol for Parents who Put their

own Sleep Needs ahead of the Child's Health and Well Being " .

It causes redistribution of mercury to the brain.

Might as well do nothing.

>:)

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Staceee,

Gentle. Hmm. Yes, I suppose my comment should have had a " winkie " after it.

But if you see someone aiming a gun at a child and they are about to

pull the trigger, would you be " gentle " or would you wrestle that

person to the ground, even if you had to apologize later if it

happened to be a toy they were holding?

>ouch~ that's harsh Micheal, but I get it, I just started with my son

>and that 3 am dose is tough....

>but as you so eloquently put it, I don't want to do the " Chelation

>Protocol for Parents who Put their own Sleep Needs ahead of the

>Child's Health and Well Being " either but..................let's be

>gentle with each other k?

>Stacee

>

>________________________________

>From: Ross <<mailto:mrossgrp%40gmail.com>mrossgrp@...>

><mailto: %40>

>Sent: Monday, March 2, 2009 10:31:43 AM

>Subject: Re: [ ] ac protocol or ALA 3x a day

>

>>I understand the benefit of AC protocol. Can anyone speak to doing the

>>protocol 3x a day and not at night?

>

>Yes, it's called the " Chelation Protocol for Parents who Put their

>own Sleep Needs ahead of the Child's Health and Well Being " .

>

>It causes redistribution of mercury to the brain.

>

>Might as well do nothing.

>

>

>

>>:)

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relax Michea,l no one is aiming a gun, you really need to lighten up~

we're all just here to help our kiddos, geesh

p.s. there's only one " e " in my first name

don't you think that our energies are better directed at help and our kids and

supporting each other??

someone needs a hug, to I'm sending you one , have a nice day and a wish

you the very best!

;p

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From: Ross <mrossgrp@...>

Sent: Monday, March 2, 2009 11:26:17 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] ac protocol or ALA 3x a day

Staceee,

Gentle. Hmm. Yes, I suppose my comment should have had a " winkie " after it.

But if you see someone aiming a gun at a child and they are about to

pull the trigger, would you be " gentle " or would you wrestle that

person to the ground, even if you had to apologize later if it

happened to be a toy they were holding?

>ouch~ that's harsh Micheal, but I get it, I just started with my son

>and that 3 am dose is tough....

>but as you so eloquently put it, I don't want to do the " Chelation

>Protocol for Parents who Put their own Sleep Needs ahead of the

>Child's Health and Well Being " either but......... ......... let's be

>gentle with each other k?

>Stacee

>

>___________ _________ _________ ___

>From: Ross <<mailto:mrossgrp% 40gmail.com>mrossgrpgmail (DOT) com>

><mailto:Autism- Mercury%40g roups.com>

>Sent: Monday, March 2, 2009 10:31:43 AM

>Subject: Re: [ ] ac protocol or ALA 3x a day

>

>>I understand the benefit of AC protocol. Can anyone speak to doing the

>>protocol 3x a day and not at night?

>

>Yes, it's called the " Chelation Protocol for Parents who Put their

>own Sleep Needs ahead of the Child's Health and Well Being " .

>

>It causes redistribution of mercury to the brain.

>

>Might as well do nothing.

>

>

>

>>:)

>>

>>

>>

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sorry my typing is a bit off, getting over a cold~

even still, Micheal, we are on the same side, are we not??

take care,

Stacee with one " e "

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Sent: Monday, March 2, 2009 11:47:35 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] ac protocol or ALA 3x a day

relax Michea,l no one is aiming a gun, you really need to lighten up~

we're all just here to help our kiddos, geesh

p.s. there's only one " e " in my first name

don't you think that our energies are better directed at help and our kids and

supporting each other??

someone needs a hug, to I'm sending you one , have a nice day and a wish

you the very best!

;p

____________ _________ _________ __

From: Ross <mrossgrpgmail (DOT) com>

Sent: Monday, March 2, 2009 11:26:17 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] ac protocol or ALA 3x a day

Staceee,

Gentle. Hmm. Yes, I suppose my comment should have had a " winkie " after it.

But if you see someone aiming a gun at a child and they are about to

pull the trigger, would you be " gentle " or would you wrestle that

person to the ground, even if you had to apologize later if it

happened to be a toy they were holding?

>ouch~ that's harsh Micheal, but I get it, I just started with my son

>and that 3 am dose is tough....

>but as you so eloquently put it, I don't want to do the " Chelation

>Protocol for Parents who Put their own Sleep Needs ahead of the

>Child's Health and Well Being " either but......... ......... let's be

>gentle with each other k?

>Stacee

>

>___________ _________ _________ ___

>From: Ross <<mailto:mrossgrp% 40gmail.com> mrossgrp@ gmail. com>

><mailto:Autism- Mercury%40g roups.com>Autism- Mercury@ groups.

com

>Sent: Monday, March 2, 2009 10:31:43 AM

>Subject: Re: [ ] ac protocol or ALA 3x a day

>

>>I understand the benefit of AC protocol. Can anyone speak to doing the

>>protocol 3x a day and not at night?

>

>Yes, it's called the " Chelation Protocol for Parents who Put their

>own Sleep Needs ahead of the Child's Health and Well Being " .

>

>It causes redistribution of mercury to the brain.

>

>Might as well do nothing.

>

>

>

>>:)

>>

>>

>>

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There are animal studies to show infrequent dosing will cause a

redistribution and further concentration of heavy metals in organs and

the brain.

So there is a very real risk of further brain damage on a 3x a day and

not at night protocol.

And yes I have seen it happen, and no matter how many times I tried to

warn the parents they went off and made their child so much worse. It

is painful to watch and very sad to know this child will probably never

recover now.

wrote:

>

> I understand the benefit of AC protocol. Can anyone speak to doing the

> protocol 3x a day and not at night?

>

> :)

>

>

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I've seen a parent destroy their child's brain using an infrequent protocol.

Its hard to " lighten up " about that.

I won't support any parent doing that.

No hugs from me.

What a load of toss.

Stacee wrote:

>

> relax Michea,l no one is aiming a gun, you really need to lighten up~

> we're all just here to help our kiddos, geesh

> p.s. there's only one " e " in my first name

>

> don't you think that our energies are better directed at help and our

> kids and supporting each other??

>

> someone needs a hug, to I'm sending you one , have a nice day

> and a wish you the very best!

>

> ;p

>

> ________________________________

> From: Ross <mrossgrp@... <mailto:mrossgrp%40gmail.com>>

>

> <mailto: %40>

> Sent: Monday, March 2, 2009 11:26:17 AM

> Subject: Re: [ ] ac protocol or ALA 3x a day

>

> Staceee,

>

> Gentle. Hmm. Yes, I suppose my comment should have had a " winkie "

> after it.

>

> But if you see someone aiming a gun at a child and they are about to

> pull the trigger, would you be " gentle " or would you wrestle that

> person to the ground, even if you had to apologize later if it

> happened to be a toy they were holding?

>

>

>

> >ouch~ that's harsh Micheal, but I get it, I just started with my son

> >and that 3 am dose is tough....

> >but as you so eloquently put it, I don't want to do the " Chelation

> >Protocol for Parents who Put their own Sleep Needs ahead of the

> >Child's Health and Well Being " either but......... ......... let's be

> >gentle with each other k?

> >Stacee

> >

> >___________ _________ _________ ___

> >From: Ross <<mailto:mrossgrp% 40gmail.com>mrossgrpgmail (DOT) com>

> ><mailto:Autism- Mercury%40g roups.com> @

> groups. com

> >Sent: Monday, March 2, 2009 10:31:43 AM

> >Subject: Re: [ ] ac protocol or ALA 3x a day

> >

> >>I understand the benefit of AC protocol. Can anyone speak to doing the

> >>protocol 3x a day and not at night?

> >

> >Yes, it's called the " Chelation Protocol for Parents who Put their

> >own Sleep Needs ahead of the Child's Health and Well Being " .

> >

> >It causes redistribution of mercury to the brain.

> >

> >Might as well do nothing.

> >

> >

> >

> >>:)

> >>

> >>

> >>

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I personally like the straight talk. No need to read between the lines.

I'm used to getting up many times a night because one of my boys doesn't sleep

so well. No big deal.

Great thing is that now after a few rounds he is sleeping much better. We've

changed a few other things, but I'm sure the chelation needs part of the credit.

I get angry about immunizations having mercury in them, amalgams, and everything

else. I certainly don't want to be responsible for hurting my child further.

So glad I found this list..

TJ

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From: Reynolds <peter@...>

Sent: Monday, March 2, 2009 1:58:18 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] ac protocol or ALA 3x a day

I've seen a parent destroy their child's brain using an infrequent protocol.

Its hard to " lighten up " about that.

I won't support any parent doing that.

No hugs from me.

What a load of toss.

Stacee wrote:

>

> relax Michea,l no one is aiming a gun, you really need to lighten up~

> we're all just here to help our kiddos, geesh

> p.s. there's only one " e " in my first name

>

> don't you think that our energies are better directed at help and our

> kids and supporting each other??

>

> someone needs a hug, to I'm sending you one , have a nice day

> and a wish you the very best!

>

> ;p

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> From: Ross <mrossgrpgmail (DOT) com <mailto:mrossgrp% 40gmail.com> >

> @ groups.. com

> <mailto:Autism- Mercury%40g roups.com>

> Sent: Monday, March 2, 2009 11:26:17 AM

> Subject: Re: [ ] ac protocol or ALA 3x a day

>

> Staceee,

>

> Gentle. Hmm. Yes, I suppose my comment should have had a " winkie "

> after it.

>

> But if you see someone aiming a gun at a child and they are about to

> pull the trigger, would you be " gentle " or would you wrestle that

> person to the ground, even if you had to apologize later if it

> happened to be a toy they were holding?

>

>

>

> >ouch~ that's harsh Micheal, but I get it, I just started with my son

> >and that 3 am dose is tough....

> >but as you so eloquently put it, I don't want to do the " Chelation

> >Protocol for Parents who Put their own Sleep Needs ahead of the

> >Child's Health and Well Being " either but......... ......... let's be

> >gentle with each other k?

> >Stacee

> >

> >___________ _________ _________ ___

> >From: Ross <<mailto:mrossgrp% 40gmail.com> mrossgrp@ gmail. com>

> ><mailto:Autism- Mercury%40g roups.com>Autism- Mercury@

> groups. com

> >Sent: Monday, March 2, 2009 10:31:43 AM

> >Subject: Re: [ ] ac protocol or ALA 3x a day

> >

> >>I understand the benefit of AC protocol. Can anyone speak to doing the

> >>protocol 3x a day and not at night?

> >

> >Yes, it's called the " Chelation Protocol for Parents who Put their

> >own Sleep Needs ahead of the Child's Health and Well Being " .

> >

> >It causes redistribution of mercury to the brain.

> >

> >Might as well do nothing.

> >

> >

> >

> >>:)

> >>

> >>

> >>

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I know we have some single parents, but for the ones still together.

My husband and I take turns with the night doses. I usually give the

12:30am dose and he gives the 3:30am dose, then I give the 6:30am and

all of the daytime doses. We take turns each weekend. I have the dose

prepoured for the night, so we just grab the syringe and go.

I like the blunt replies as well. I didn't know how to take at

first, but now I find myself agreeing with his posts.

> >

> > relax Michea,l no one is aiming a gun, you really need to lighten

up~

> > we're all just here to help our kiddos, geesh

> > p.s. there's only one " e " in my first name

> >

> > don't you think that our energies are better directed at help and

our

> > kids and supporting each other??

> >

> > someone needs a hug, to I'm sending you one , have a nice

day

> > and a wish you the very best!

> >

> > ;p

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > From: Ross <mrossgrpgmail (DOT) com <mailto:mrossgrp%

40gmail.com> >

> > @ groups.. com

> > <mailto:Autism- Mercury%40g roups.com>

> > Sent: Monday, March 2, 2009 11:26:17 AM

> > Subject: Re: [ ] ac protocol or ALA 3x a day

> >

> > Staceee,

> >

> > Gentle. Hmm. Yes, I suppose my comment should have had a " winkie "

> > after it.

> >

> > But if you see someone aiming a gun at a child and they are about

to

> > pull the trigger, would you be " gentle " or would you wrestle that

> > person to the ground, even if you had to apologize later if it

> > happened to be a toy they were holding?

> >

> >

> >

> > >ouch~ that's harsh Micheal, but I get it, I just started with my

son

> > >and that 3 am dose is tough....

> > >but as you so eloquently put it, I don't want to do the

" Chelation

> > >Protocol for Parents who Put their own Sleep Needs ahead of the

> > >Child's Health and Well Being " either but......... .........

let's be

> > >gentle with each other k?

> > >Stacee

> > >

> > >___________ _________ _________ ___

> > >From: Ross <<mailto:mrossgrp% 40gmail.com> mrossgrp@

gmail. com>

> > ><mailto:Autism- Mercury%40g roups.com>Autism- Mercury@

> > groups. com

> > >Sent: Monday, March 2, 2009 10:31:43 AM

> > >Subject: Re: [ ] ac protocol or ALA 3x a day

> > >

> > >>I understand the benefit of AC protocol. Can anyone speak to

doing the

> > >>protocol 3x a day and not at night?

> > >

> > >Yes, it's called the " Chelation Protocol for Parents who Put

their

> > >own Sleep Needs ahead of the Child's Health and Well Being " .

> > >

> > >It causes redistribution of mercury to the brain.

> > >

> > >Might as well do nothing.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >>:)

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

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Your a lucky gal....I do all the doses...day, night, for the last

three years. And I am not a single parent...but it sure feels like I

am one...most every day. He is just " here " doing what I don't know...lol.

I am one tired out lady..but my kids are getting better, so it is

worth it.

Smile and feel warm and fuzzy that you got a good hubby!

> > >

> > > relax Michea,l no one is aiming a gun, you really need to lighten

> up~

> > > we're all just here to help our kiddos, geesh

> > > p.s. there's only one " e " in my first name

> > >

> > > don't you think that our energies are better directed at help and

> our

> > > kids and supporting each other??

> > >

> > > someone needs a hug, to I'm sending you one , have a nice

> day

> > > and a wish you the very best!

> > >

> > > ;p

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > From: Ross <mrossgrpgmail (DOT) com <mailto:mrossgrp%

> 40gmail.com> >

> > > @ groups.. com

> > > <mailto:Autism- Mercury%40g roups.com>

> > > Sent: Monday, March 2, 2009 11:26:17 AM

> > > Subject: Re: [ ] ac protocol or ALA 3x a day

> > >

> > > Staceee,

> > >

> > > Gentle. Hmm. Yes, I suppose my comment should have had a " winkie "

> > > after it.

> > >

> > > But if you see someone aiming a gun at a child and they are about

> to

> > > pull the trigger, would you be " gentle " or would you wrestle that

> > > person to the ground, even if you had to apologize later if it

> > > happened to be a toy they were holding?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > >ouch~ that's harsh Micheal, but I get it, I just started with my

> son

> > > >and that 3 am dose is tough....

> > > >but as you so eloquently put it, I don't want to do the

> " Chelation

> > > >Protocol for Parents who Put their own Sleep Needs ahead of the

> > > >Child's Health and Well Being " either but......... .........

> let's be

> > > >gentle with each other k?

> > > >Stacee

> > > >

> > > >___________ _________ _________ ___

> > > >From: Ross <<mailto:mrossgrp% 40gmail.com> mrossgrp@

> gmail. com>

> > > ><mailto:Autism- Mercury%40g roups.com>Autism- Mercury@

> > > groups. com

> > > >Sent: Monday, March 2, 2009 10:31:43 AM

> > > >Subject: Re: [ ] ac protocol or ALA 3x a day

> > > >

> > > >>I understand the benefit of AC protocol. Can anyone speak to

> doing the

> > > >>protocol 3x a day and not at night?

> > > >

> > > >Yes, it's called the " Chelation Protocol for Parents who Put

> their

> > > >own Sleep Needs ahead of the Child's Health and Well Being " .

> > > >

> > > >It causes redistribution of mercury to the brain.

> > > >

> > > >Might as well do nothing.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >>:)

> > > >>

> > > >>

> > > >>

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I know I'm lucky! I think he just wants me well rested so I can do

EVERYTHING else! He likes his laptop, that's all I will say about

that! But yeah, I do appreciate the night doses. He is a journalist

and wants to interview Andy one day. Not sure if Andy does that sort

of thing.

I wanted to ask you and I know this is probaby a rhetorical question

but...when does the child start understanding more with AC chelation?

We just finished our 23rd round and she is doing well. But she still

doesn't understand a lot of what we say. She is just starting to use

sentences but there is a lot of echolalia now.

She is only up to 7.25mg of both ALA and DMSA. I had to go very slowly

with raising the doses. I guess I'm impatient. I keep reading about

kids doing all these great things so early on and I want that! Mostly

I want conversation.

> >

> > I know we have some single parents, but for the ones still

together.

> > My husband and I take turns with the night doses. I usually give

the

> > 12:30am dose and he gives the 3:30am dose, then I give the 6:30am

and

> > all of the daytime doses. We take turns each weekend. I have the

dose

> > prepoured for the night, so we just grab the syringe and go.

> >

> > I like the blunt replies as well. I didn't know how to take

at

> > first, but now I find myself agreeing with his posts.

> >

> >

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there's a big difference between " straight talk " and launching into attack mode~

seriously you guys are missing the point and I still offer hugs and good will to

all and will continue be supportive of other parents without attacking

them, I don't think that's a neccesary way to convey an idea~

seriously, everyone needs to take a breath!

stacee

with two " e " s

:)

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From: TJ Werth <tj_werth@...>

Sent: Monday, March 2, 2009 2:25:31 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] ac protocol or ALA 3x a day

I personally like the straight talk. No need to read between the lines.

I'm used to getting up many times a night because one of my boys doesn't sleep

so well. No big deal.

Great thing is that now after a few rounds he is sleeping much better. We've

changed a few other things, but I'm sure the chelation needs part of the credit.

I get angry about immunizations having mercury in them, amalgams, and everything

else. I certainly don't want to be responsible for hurting my child further.

So glad I found this list..

TJ

____________ _________ _________ __

From: Reynolds <peteralkamy (DOT) com>

Sent: Monday, March 2, 2009 1:58:18 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] ac protocol or ALA 3x a day

I've seen a parent destroy their child's brain using an infrequent protocol.

Its hard to " lighten up " about that.

I won't support any parent doing that.

No hugs from me.

What a load of toss.

Stacee wrote:

>

> relax Michea,l no one is aiming a gun, you really need to lighten up~

> we're all just here to help our kiddos, geesh

> p.s. there's only one " e " in my first name

>

> don't you think that our energies are better directed at help and our

> kids and supporting each other??

>

> someone needs a hug, to I'm sending you one , have a nice day

> and a wish you the very best!

>

> ;p

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> From: Ross <mrossgrpgmail (DOT) com <mailto:mrossgrp% 40gmail.com> >

> @ groups. . com

> <mailto:Autism- Mercury%40g roups.com>

> Sent: Monday, March 2, 2009 11:26:17 AM

> Subject: Re: [ ] ac protocol or ALA 3x a day

>

> Staceee,

>

> Gentle. Hmm. Yes, I suppose my comment should have had a " winkie "

> after it.

>

> But if you see someone aiming a gun at a child and they are about to

> pull the trigger, would you be " gentle " or would you wrestle that

> person to the ground, even if you had to apologize later if it

> happened to be a toy they were holding?

>

>

>

> >ouch~ that's harsh Micheal, but I get it, I just started with my son

> >and that 3 am dose is tough....

> >but as you so eloquently put it, I don't want to do the " Chelation

> >Protocol for Parents who Put their own Sleep Needs ahead of the

> >Child's Health and Well Being " either but......... ......... let's be

> >gentle with each other k?

> >Stacee

> >

> >___________ _________ _________ ___

> >From: Ross <<mailto:mrossgrp% 40gmail.com> mrossgrp@ gmail. com>

> ><mailto:Autism- Mercury%40g roups.com>Autism- Mercury@

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> >Sent: Monday, March 2, 2009 10:31:43 AM

> >Subject: Re: [ ] ac protocol or ALA 3x a day

> >

> >>I understand the benefit of AC protocol. Can anyone speak to doing the

> >>protocol 3x a day and not at night?

> >

> >Yes, it's called the " Chelation Protocol for Parents who Put their

> >own Sleep Needs ahead of the Child's Health and Well Being " .

> >

> >It causes redistribution of mercury to the brain.

> >

> >Might as well do nothing.

> >

> >

> >

> >>:)

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From: michellebondy

I wanted to ask you and I know this is probaby a rhetorical question

but...when does the child start understanding more with AC chelation?

We just finished our 23rd round and she is doing well. But she still

doesn't understand a lot of what we say. She is just starting to use

sentences but there is a lot of echolalia now.

===>They're all so different. Some take right off with the receptive

understanding and for others it is one of the later things to appear.

Just know if you're starting to see sentences, even with echolalia, it's

coming. Echolalia is often a precursor to genuine conversation. She'll get

there.

> >

> > I know we have some single parents, but for the ones still

together.

> > My husband and I take turns with the night doses. I usually give

the

> > 12:30am dose and he gives the 3:30am dose, then I give the 6:30am

and

> > all of the daytime doses. We take turns each weekend. I have the

dose

> > prepoured for the night, so we just grab the syringe and go.

> >

> > I like the blunt replies as well. I didn't know how to take

at

> > first, but now I find myself agreeing with his posts.

> >

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I think it is individual to each child and depends on their level of

toxins and what it has affected.

My son's auditory processing and understanding of what we said was

always sketchy until just lately. We would see improvements in his

comprehension and interpretation of what we said when we got into the

30-40 rounds. But it would always go back between rounds. Finally,

when we hit 50...it seemed gone. And he has been doing ok. School has

also reported not detecting any auditory processing issues. He still

does have some trouble with verbal articulation where he will forget

what he was going to say. He has to say it as soon as he thinks it, if

he has to wait a minute...he loses it. Sometimes he will recall it later.

Now I don't know her age, but my son is 6. he did not have problems

speaking, but he had trouble understanding us and following what we

said. He seemed to hear things wrong...like if we said put your socks

on the bed, he though I said put them on his head. So was confused all

the time. I did do some auditory therapy with him using Earobics to

help him learn to distinguish syllables. So I don't know if our

situation compares to yours or not...

What I can say is the fact that your gal is using sentences

now...means this is working. And that is positive and makes the

prognosis she will understand better and converse...good.

Not all of the kids progress at the same speed and some progress a lot

at first and stall out during the stall period. Then begin to make

progress again after getting through those few months. Other kids make

small improvements bit by bit.

IF it helps..my son used to repeat words for no reason too. He would

find a word that he heard on tv or someplace..and just repeat it over

and over until I was half nuts. It was almost like he liked the way it

felt to say it...he no longer does this. Hasn't in months. When he was

a toddler you could hardly engage him, you'd talk to him but he was in

space. He would giggle and respond to you sometimes, other times he

was out there somewhere. As a toddler, he did not understand most of

what we said, and could nto follow commands. He actually spoke in

babble. He had some words like ma, ba, car, go-go, but he would babble

all this jibberish that made no sense.

So hang in there...things can change but it's slow.

> > >

> > > I know we have some single parents, but for the ones still

> together.

> > > My husband and I take turns with the night doses. I usually give

> the

> > > 12:30am dose and he gives the 3:30am dose, then I give the 6:30am

> and

> > > all of the daytime doses. We take turns each weekend. I have the

> dose

> > > prepoured for the night, so we just grab the syringe and go.

> > >

> > > I like the blunt replies as well. I didn't know how to take

> at

> > > first, but now I find myself agreeing with his posts.

> > >

> > >

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Wow. My children are adults now and I have no control over such things, but may

I ask... why would taking the chelators 3x/night be so starkly different thatn

3x/daytime. I'm not challenging the logic here, but am wondering how daytime

results in Hg sticking to the brain while nighttime pulls it out of the brain,

not to say that it doesn't work that way. And, yes, I think the analogies used

may be a little extreme, too. Isn't that how we know the MDs are lying to us? 

When logic seems to fail them, they turn the conversation to the dire and

frightening - " your child will get sick, will die, we refuse to treat an

unvaccinated child, that's child abuse.... "   Seriously, if the AC protocol is

effective, and the anti-mercury cause is legitimate, then there should be no

place for this kind of response. Yes, I realize, too, that I'm possibly in

violation myself if berating a fellow member, but I do not think that it's

appropriate to plant the thought of

aiming a gun at your child's head in the mind of a concerned parent who has a

very legitimate question in the context of others who are searching for

understanding.  Treatments at night may very well be preferrable, but the

difference could not possibly be equivalent to a gunshot to the brain, nor even

the difference between zero brain damage and 100%.  This is religious dogma, not

persuasion, and it's very unethical to blindside a concerned parent with that

kind of guilt...

From: Ross <mrossgrp@...>

Subject: Re: [ ] ac protocol or ALA 3x a day

Date: Tuesday, March 3, 2009, 1:31 AM

>I understand the benefit of AC protocol. Can anyone speak to doing the

>protocol 3x a day and not at night?

Yes, it's called the " Chelation Protocol for Parents who Put their

own Sleep Needs ahead of the Child's Health and Well Being " .

It causes redistribution of mercury to the brain.

Might as well do nothing.

>:)

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Alan I agree with you, I am concerned that a new parent may be so turned off by

this tone and never come back to this group, which would be such a shame. While

I appreciate the passion, I think it's misguided and maybe more appropriate for

the therapist office instead of this group~

still smiling~

Stacee

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From: Alan Foossolvesunified.com <cusanusnicolas@...>

Sent: Monday, March 2, 2009 6:28:59 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] ac protocol or ALA 3x a day

Wow. My children are adults now and I have no control over such things, but may

I ask... why would taking the chelators 3x/night be so starkly different thatn

3x/daytime. I'm not challenging the logic here, but am wondering how daytime

results in Hg sticking to the brain while nighttime pulls it out of the brain,

not to say that it doesn't work that way. And, yes, I think the analogies used

may be a little extreme, too. Isn't that how we know the MDs are lying to us? 

When logic seems to fail them, they turn the conversation to the dire and

frightening - " your child will get sick, will die, we refuse to treat an

unvaccinated child, that's child abuse.... "   Seriously, if the AC protocol is

effective, and the anti-mercury cause is legitimate, then there should be no

place for this kind of response. Yes, I realize, too, that I'm possibly in

violation myself if berating a fellow member, but I do not think that it's

appropriate to plant the thought of

aiming a gun at your child's head in the mind of a concerned parent who has a

very legitimate question in the context of others who are searching for

understanding.  Treatments at night may very well be preferrable, but the

difference could not possibly be equivalent to a gunshot to the brain, nor even

the difference between zero brain damage and 100%.  This is religious dogma, not

persuasion, and it's very unethical to blindside a concerned parent with that

kind of guilt...

From: Ross <mrossgrpgmail (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: [ ] ac protocol or ALA 3x a day

Date: Tuesday, March 3, 2009, 1:31 AM

>I understand the benefit of AC protocol. Can anyone speak to doing the

>protocol 3x a day and not at night?

Yes, it's called the " Chelation Protocol for Parents who Put their

own Sleep Needs ahead of the Child's Health and Well Being " .

It causes redistribution of mercury to the brain.

Might as well do nothing.

>:)

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Ruby just turned 4 in February. She sounds very much like your son

was, but she was nonverbal until last April. After a few months of

diet and basic biomeds, she started using words with poor

articulation. Auditory processing has always been an issue with Ruby.

She has gotten better lately, but it's still a major issue.

Tonight I asked her " did you eat your meatballs " and she replied

" okay " . Thinking I was asking her if she wanted more meatballs. It's

very frustrating. But she is improving slowly. She still doesn't use

" I " , " me " , " and " etc. and speaks sort of like a caveman. No offence if

any Geico Caveman are reading this, haha.

Anyway, I know AC chelation is working because after 2 rounds this

past summer she could suddenly pronounce her T's. She could say 2 and

10 perfectly and her ABA therapist was amazed. After her first 6

rounds she could jump. She could not jump before this at all. She

would try and try but just didn't have the co-ordination for it. So we

were in shock at how fast things were happening for her.

But, we had to stop chelation due to Ruby having an insane amount of

parasites. Little did I know I should have kept chelating and just

treated her for parasites. Anyway, we took a 3 month break. So in

reality we have done 23 rounds, but only 18 consecutive rounds. I know

I am expecting a lot from Ruby and I have to be more patient.

She is labeling everything now, she always answers to her name, she is

aware and always turns when we enter the room. Those are things she

never did before because she was always in a fog.

It's great to hear your son is doing so well. I love that Ruby is very

much like your son was, so this tells me she will get there! Thanks so

much for this reply. I'm putting it in my favs for when I need

inspiration!

> > >

> > > Your a lucky gal....I do all the doses...day, night, for the

last

> > > three years. And I am not a single parent...but it sure feels

like I

> > > am one...most every day. He is just " here " doing what I don't

> > know...lol.

> > > I am one tired out lady..but my kids are getting better, so it

is

> > > worth it.

> > > Smile and feel warm and fuzzy that you got a good hubby!

> > >

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Thanks , I always listen to your advice. I am happy to hear

echolalia is a precusor to conversation. This message in going into my

favs as well for inspiration!

> > >

> > > I know we have some single parents, but for the ones still

> together.

> > > My husband and I take turns with the night doses. I usually

give

> the

> > > 12:30am dose and he gives the 3:30am dose, then I give the

6:30am

> and

> > > all of the daytime doses. We take turns each weekend. I have

the

> dose

> > > prepoured for the night, so we just grab the syringe and go.

> > >

> > > I like the blunt replies as well. I didn't know how to take

> at

> > > first, but now I find myself agreeing with his posts.

> > >

> > >

>

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The chelator needs to be given on it's half life...for those three

days and two nights. (If one wishes to avoid moving and dropping

mercury all around) So you can't skip day doses or night doses.

She was inquiring about using the ala only three times per 24 hours,

giving those three doses during the day. So she wanted to use it only

during the day, and not at all at night. Problem is that ala only

last three hours in the body, four if your lucky. So giving it only

three times in a 24 hour period leaves many redistributions per round.

That was the question. Redistribution will happen anytime you dose it

longer than the chelators half life. According to Dr. Cutler's

pharmokinetic of ala..it's three hours, four it the longest before the

body has used it up. DMSA is four hours..five at the longest. I have

also read scientific studies on dmsa that also found the four hours...

So to avoid problems, more side effects and possibly making more

problems, it would be best if given every 3 hours...for the entire 72

hour round. The only lead way is that you can do night time doses four

hours apart rather than three. When one is sleeping the metabolism is

slower.

So for most of us this means giving a midnight and 4am dose.

So for most of us..we use the AC because we feel would like to avoid

or reduce the redistributions as much as possible. If that makes sense.

After having gone through 30 rounds myself...redistribution is

rough...and I would prefer to avoid it...if I could. Since I can't..at

least doing it this way I don't go through it every day for three

days, as I would on dosing 3 times a day for three days.

Am I making sense....

>

> From: Ross <mrossgrp@...>

> Subject: Re: [ ] ac protocol or ALA 3x a day

>

> Date: Tuesday, March 3, 2009, 1:31 AM

>

>

>

>

>

>

> >I understand the benefit of AC protocol. Can anyone speak to doing the

> >protocol 3x a day and not at night?

>

> Yes, it's called the " Chelation Protocol for Parents who Put their

> own Sleep Needs ahead of the Child's Health and Well Being " .

>

> It causes redistribution of mercury to the brain.

>

> Might as well do nothing.

>

>

>

> >:)

> >

> >

> >

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that makes a lot of sense Jan, you're an inspiration!

Stacee

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From: Jan <mercurybabies2@...>

Sent: Monday, March 2, 2009 6:53:45 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: ac protocol or ALA 3x a day

The chelator needs to be given on it's half life...for those three

days and two nights. (If one wishes to avoid moving and dropping

mercury all around) So you can't skip day doses or night doses.

She was inquiring about using the ala only three times per 24 hours,

giving those three doses during the day. So she wanted to use it only

during the day, and not at all at night. Problem is that ala only

last three hours in the body, four if your lucky. So giving it only

three times in a 24 hour period leaves many redistributions per round.

That was the question. Redistribution will happen anytime you dose it

longer than the chelators half life. According to Dr. Cutler's

pharmokinetic of ala..it's three hours, four it the longest before the

body has used it up. DMSA is four hours..five at the longest. I have

also read scientific studies on dmsa that also found the four hours...

So to avoid problems, more side effects and possibly making more

problems, it would be best if given every 3 hours...for the entire 72

hour round. The only lead way is that you can do night time doses four

hours apart rather than three. When one is sleeping the metabolism is

slower.

So for most of us this means giving a midnight and 4am dose.

So for most of us..we use the AC because we feel would like to avoid

or reduce the redistributions as much as possible. If that makes sense.

After having gone through 30 rounds myself...redistribu tion is

rough...and I would prefer to avoid it...if I could. Since I can't..at

least doing it this way I don't go through it every day for three

days, as I would on dosing 3 times a day for three days.

Am I making sense....

>

> From: Ross <mrossgrp@.. .>

> Subject: Re: [ ] ac protocol or ALA 3x a day

>

> Date: Tuesday, March 3, 2009, 1:31 AM

>

>

>

>

>

>

> >I understand the benefit of AC protocol. Can anyone speak to doing the

> >protocol 3x a day and not at night?

>

> Yes, it's called the " Chelation Protocol for Parents who Put their

> own Sleep Needs ahead of the Child's Health and Well Being " .

>

> It causes redistribution of mercury to the brain.

>

> Might as well do nothing.

>

>

>

> >:)

> >

> >

> >

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just to clarify this post..I did not go through redistribution only

after doing 30 rounds...everyone has redistribution post round and

every round..thus the reason we feel icky that day after. I go through

that icky day after every round. Some rounds it's worse than

others...its' tolerable.. but I was referring to that in case there

was any confusion.

---

> After having gone through 30 rounds myself...redistribution is

> rough...and I would prefer to avoid it...if I could. Since I can't..at

> least doing it this way I don't go through it every day for three

> days, as I would on dosing 3 times a day for three days.

>

> Am I making sense....

>

>

>

>

> >

> > From: Ross <mrossgrp@>

> > Subject: Re: [ ] ac protocol or ALA 3x a day

> >

> > Date: Tuesday, March 3, 2009, 1:31 AM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > >I understand the benefit of AC protocol. Can anyone speak to

doing the

> > >protocol 3x a day and not at night?

> >

> > Yes, it's called the " Chelation Protocol for Parents who Put their

> > own Sleep Needs ahead of the Child's Health and Well Being " .

> >

> > It causes redistribution of mercury to the brain.

> >

> > Might as well do nothing.

> >

> >

> >

> > >:)

> > >

> > >

> > >

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