Re: What are the basics to avoid autism?

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I am pregnant and last time my water broke and no contractions came. I told

them I didn't want pitocen and they let me wait 6 hours and then pretty much

didn't give me a choice. How can I avoid it this time?

@...: DavAliNee@...: Mon, 15 Sep

2008 22:50:47 +0000Subject: Re: [ ] What are the basics to avoid

autism?

no flu shots, no tuna fish, no dental work beyond teeth cleaning, no rhogam, no

pitocen or anesthesia at birth if possible, no iodine at birth, no hep B at

birth for baby, breastfeed if you can and eat well-stay away from MSG,

artificial colors and preservatives. Some people question the large amounts of

iron we take in prenatal supplements? No antacids like Tums -full of aluminum. I

wish her the best, Alison M-------------- Original message -------------- From:

" nicolejamesd " <nicolejamesd@...> > My friend is pregnant and wants to

have a healthy baby. She asked me how to > avoid autism > and I wanted to ask

the experts. I have my ideas but please share yours with me. > > Thank you

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I had another thought - as if the list isn't long enough already -

Avoid triclosan - AKA anti-bacterial. It is hiding in the obvious

places, and cleaner that says it is anti-bacterial. But, it is also

hiding in places you wouldn't suspect, like your deodorant (not just

anti-perspirants), and toothpastes have it also. It attacks thyroid

function, and just plain isn't a good thing to be exposed to even when

not pregnant.

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by getting a midwife. There are natural ways to facilitate labor when

the membranes have ruptured. There is a good chance that eventually

you would have begun labor..but hospitals fear infection and won't

wait for nature. I am inclined to think infection would not be a risk

if they were not doing exams. Also, contrary to popular belief, when

the waters break, they are continually replenishes so the baby is not

just sitting in there without any fluid. The body keeps making more

even if your leaking.

-- In , campbell

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> I am pregnant and last time my water broke and no contractions came.

I told them I didn't want pitocen and they let me wait 6 hours and

then pretty much didn't give me a choice. How can I avoid it this time?

>

> @...: DavAliNee@...: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 22:50:47

+0000Subject: Re: [ ] What are the basics to avoid autism?

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> no flu shots, no tuna fish, no dental work beyond teeth cleaning, no

rhogam, no pitocen or anesthesia at birth if possible, no iodine at

birth, no hep B at birth for baby, breastfeed if you can and eat

well-stay away from MSG, artificial colors and preservatives. Some

people question the large amounts of iron we take in prenatal

supplements? No antacids like Tums -full of aluminum. I wish her the

best, Alison M-------------- Original message -------------- From:

" nicolejamesd " <nicolejamesd@...> > My friend is pregnant and wants to

have a healthy baby. She asked me how to > avoid autism > and I wanted

to ask the experts. I have my ideas but please share yours with me. >

> Thank you > > > ------------------------------------ > >

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Don't go to the hospital, or alert the doctor when water breaks. Don't

do a hospital birth, but use a midwife and birth at home, if your state

allows for that. Make sure your doctor knows ahead of time that you

don't want pitocin or to be pressured into it unless it is a life

threatening situation. I've never met a doctor that wanted to induce

immediately upon water breaking. My water broke early, before my

contractions were strong, but I was having them. Still the doctors

didn't think it was anything birth inducing. They let me go 12 hours

before starting pitocin. If I had known, I would have made them go

longer. See, my contractions never did get strong enough to give birth

according to the doctors. That's why #1 was born with no doctor in the

room - he had gone home to wait even after starting pit since my

contractions were still more than 5 minutes apart and barely hills on

the monitor. #2 was born in a similar way - water broke, waiting quite

a few hours, nothing happening, no pit this time, but was at the

hospital. Doc checked me and then went back to the office to conduct

regular office hours since I would be several more hours to delivery.

He got to the office (a block away) just in time to get the call to come

back for a delivery. He delivered in his street clothes, and we were

thankful. For this baby had the cord wrapped around her neck 3 times!!

By the time I got to baby number 4, I knew better than to go to the

hospital before I thought it was time to push!! Luckily we were only

minutes from the hospital. But, it was much nicer not to have a

spazzing doc thinking I needed help. We arrived at 4 a.m., he was born

at 4:30 a.m. with little intervention, but he is my ASD kid.

Either way, by #4 we had learned and went with a midwife, law stated we

still had to be at the hospital to use a midwife though. So, my

wonderful but very nervous midwife followed my lead. She kept popping

in though she didn't think much was happening. She would ask " You will

tell us when it is time, right? " I said yes. And within two hours of

arriving at the hospital, the midwife could breath easy and didn't have

to worry about calling a doc to start pitocin. Baby was born and quite

easily. The midwife had been so nervous, this was all new to her having

been under the supervision of an MD all the time, that she even wanted

to put a head monitor on the baby. Uh uh!!!!! They hate it when they

can't see/confirm that nature is taking its course.

All that to say, you are mom, your body knows what it is doing. Don't

worry and don't let your doctors worry. It may be difficult, but take

charge - it is your body and your child. I just told them I'd let them

know when I needed them.

campbell wrote:

> I am pregnant and last time my water broke and no contractions came. I told

them I didn't want pitocen and they let me wait 6 hours and then pretty much

didn't give me a choice. How can I avoid it this time?

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Oh yeah, thanks - that's another one - only natural deodorant - none

of the antiperspirants which have aluminum and by god, no clinical strength

secret!

When we're done, I'll compile a complete list and post it somewhere for

future reference!

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On Behalf Of P.

Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 1:09 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] What are the basics to avoid autism?

I had another thought - as if the list isn't long enough already -

Avoid triclosan - AKA anti-bacterial. It is hiding in the obvious

places, and cleaner that says it is anti-bacterial. But, it is also

hiding in places you wouldn't suspect, like your deodorant (not just

anti-perspirants), and toothpastes have it also. It attacks thyroid

function, and just plain isn't a good thing to be exposed to even when

not pregnant.

[Guest guest]

Don't go to the hospital, or alert the doctor when water breaks. Don't

do a hospital birth, but use a midwife and birth at home, if your state

allows for that. Make sure your doctor knows ahead of time that you

don't want pitocin or to be pressured into it unless it is a life

threatening situation. I've never met a doctor that wanted to induce

immediately upon water breaking. My water broke early, before my

contractions were strong, but I was having them. Still the doctors

didn't think it was anything birth inducing. They let me go 12 hours

before starting pitocin. If I had known, I would have made them go

longer. See, my contractions never did get strong enough to give birth

according to the doctors. That's why #1 was born with no doctor in the

room - he had gone home to wait even after starting pit since my

contractions were still more than 5 minutes apart and barely hills on

the monitor. #2 was born in a similar way - water broke, waiting quite

a few hours, nothing happening, no pit this time, but was at the

hospital. Doc checked me and then went back to the office to conduct

regular office hours since I would be several more hours to delivery.

He got to the office (a block away) just in time to get the call to come

back for a delivery. He delivered in his street clothes, and we were

thankful. For this baby had the cord wrapped around her neck 3 times!!

By the time I got to baby number 4, I knew better than to go to the

hospital before I thought it was time to push!! Luckily we were only

minutes from the hospital. But, it was much nicer not to have a

spazzing doc thinking I needed help. We arrived at 4 a.m., he was born

at 4:30 a.m. with little intervention, but he is my ASD kid.

Either way, by #4 we had learned and went with a midwife, law stated we

still had to be at the hospital to use a midwife though. So, my

wonderful but very nervous midwife followed my lead. She kept popping

in though she didn't think much was happening. She would ask " You will

tell us when it is time, right? " I said yes. And within two hours of

arriving at the hospital, the midwife could breath easy and didn't have

to worry about calling a doc to start pitocin. Baby was born and quite

easily. The midwife had been so nervous, this was all new to her having

been under the supervision of an MD all the time, that she even wanted

to put a head monitor on the baby. Uh uh!!!!! They hate it when they

can't see/confirm that nature is taking its course.

All that to say, you are mom, your body knows what it is doing. Don't

worry and don't let your doctors worry. It may be difficult, but take

charge - it is your body and your child. I just told them I'd let them

know when I needed them.

campbell wrote:

> I am pregnant and last time my water broke and no contractions came. I told

them I didn't want pitocen and they let me wait 6 hours and then pretty much

didn't give me a choice. How can I avoid it this time?

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Just a note about midwives - I would highly suggest if you use one,

you are next door to a hospital (some even work in hospitals). I

certainly agree that the general medical community does a lot of

things wrong, but I have a friend who tried a home birth and her son

ended up with severe brain injury. His whole left side is paralyzed -

at age 3.5 yrs. he can't walk and his limited language is very hard to

understand. After he was delivered, he started having seizures and it

took 45 min. to get to the hospital. My friend did a ton of

research/interviewing/etc. on midwives and this one had a great deal

of experience. Just wanted to give another side of the story.

> >

> >

> > I am pregnant and last time my water broke and no contractions came.

> I told them I didn't want pitocen and they let me wait 6 hours and

> then pretty much didn't give me a choice. How can I avoid it this time?

> >

> > @: DavAliNee@: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 22:50:47

> +0000Subject: Re: [ ] What are the basics to avoid autism?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > no flu shots, no tuna fish, no dental work beyond teeth cleaning, no

> rhogam, no pitocen or anesthesia at birth if possible, no iodine at

> birth, no hep B at birth for baby, breastfeed if you can and eat

> well-stay away from MSG, artificial colors and preservatives. Some

> people question the large amounts of iron we take in prenatal

> supplements? No antacids like Tums -full of aluminum. I wish her the

> best, Alison M-------------- Original message -------------- From:

> " nicolejamesd " <nicolejamesd@> > My friend is pregnant and wants to

> have a healthy baby. She asked me how to > avoid autism > and I wanted

> to ask the experts. I have my ideas but please share yours with me. >

> > Thank you > > > ------------------------------------ > >

> ======================================================= > Statements

> posted on this list are for information only, > and should NOT be

> taken as medical advice. If you need > medical advice, you should seek

> it from those who are > authorized to give medical advice: doctors. >

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[Guest guest]

my friend adopted an older child...this theory did not work out for

her. Seems many of those kids are already damaged, often why they are

parentless to begin with. Mom's sometimes a druggy or alkie......might

well try making one less damaged. The ones you buy from other

countries come highly vaccinated too.

Maybe just get a puppy..? Just kidding..I love your humor on this

though...!

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> > From: nicolejamesd <nicolejamesd@...>

> > Subject: [ ] What are the basics to avoid autism?

> >

> > Date: Monday, September 15, 2008, 6:28 PM

> > My friend is pregnant and wants to have a healthy baby. She

> > asked me how to avoid autism

> > and I wanted to ask the experts. I have my ideas but please

> > share yours with me.

> >

> > Thank you

>

[Guest guest]

My response is late, but I would be very sure to have a diet high in

methyl donors, as early in the pregnancy as possible. Even before

conception if that were possible (I know it isn't in this case). The

agouti mouse study with methyl donors and virtual elimination of

cancer, diabetes, and obesity from manifestation (still in the genetic

code but those genes are turned off) is a striking example of how

crucial a functioning methylation system is to good health.

Mb12, DMG, TMG, phosphatidylcholine, onions, garlic, beets. I think

all those are good methyl donors.

Anita

[Guest guest]

I would also have a diet high in beneficial bacteria, as there is much

evidence that passing on a poor bacterial environment puts our kids in

a highly disadvantageous position in terms of their health. Lots of

true cultured foods (not bought in a store, where they are likely to be

pasteurized) such as kefir, kombucha, yogurt, sauerkraut, etc.

Probiotics on top of that would also be a good idea.

Avoid the antibiotics in the non-organic food chain (meat).

Anita