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FYI - I do most of the research, share it with my husband, who is very

busy working. Then he helps me decide. He started the push for

chelation way before I was ready to start it. He may not be on the

board, but I share most of it with him. He's also the one who gets up

in the night to dose if my son doesn't wake up for his alarm or my phone

call. My son is in the cellar room, so I call if he doesn't come up.

We both have our alarms set. But, sometimes he's so sleepy he just

hangs up on me and goes back to sleep!!! Then Dad gets up and brings the

pills around. Usually, our son doesn't even remember the episode in the

morning. But, as far as Dads go, he is as active a participant as his

time allows. We are also working on him too. His hair test that the

naturopath did was almost all red lined. The ND said that was the next

to the worst hair test that could have been. So, we're recovering Dad

along with the kids. Ah, my turn will come :-/

P.

Arias wrote:

>

> I hit the *send* button before I was finished.

>

> I am not saying men aren't caring or don't do their share. I think in

> my case my husband is just different then me. He will run and get any

> supplement that I want, and he tries to get involved in her treatment,

> but I just found it works better if I do the research and try to

> recover her, while he does the running. He is really helpful that way.

> As far as him figuring out what was wrong with her, forget it!!!

> LOL...He thought her wanting to kill herself in first grade was her

> trying to get our attention and he just wanted me to ignore it. Ugh!!!

> I wonder what he says about me!!! :)

>

>

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> I've been divorced 9 years & he disappeared 4 and a half years ago.

Only men I have that help me are mine. They are 9 & 10. my baby has

yeast, as far as I can tell so far. My Miles is 10 & he's my ASD

child. The three of us all fight for one another & we are all in this

to be the best we all can be. They are awesome boys & would do

anything for eachother!

>

That's similar to my story: divorced, almost never hear from the ex,

my sons (18 and 21) and I stick close together. When the ex was

around, I very much down-played how much I was giving the kids

supplements and such. Years ago, when I first did a vitamin therapy

for my kids (B vitamins and magnesium) and their handwriting and some

other issues improved, the ex announced it had to be the video games

that was helping their hand-eye coordination. He completely dismissed

the idea that the vitamins made any difference. They had been playing

video games for years. So I don't think so.

Michele, who is really quite fond of men but also happily divorced

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She is in good hands.

Mine is 9. And I just recently figured out what was wrong with her.

She would rage from morning to night. Hated the world. Started at age

2. It was awful. At age 3, she was looking to attack with a knife.

Man, when I think about it, it makes me sick to my stomach, that

these kids have to suffer. ANyway, this past year, with the help of a

wonderful woman who found me on the internet, we pieced together what

was going on. It is mercury. At least we are not in the dark anymore,

and we can concentrate on heeling her. She is at least stable and

getting a bit better. At least now she goes out of the house. She use

to sit on the couch all day long, cutting hair and trying to cut

moles off her body. She thought she was the ugliest thing on earth,

and she is beautiful. Ooops, sorry to go on and on....

On Nov 1, 2008, at 7:22 PM, Reynolds wrote:

> My daughter is 5.

>

> Arias wrote:

> >

> > Your awesome!!!

> > So is my husband in a different way!

> > Sorry, if I didn't catch it...

> > but how old is your child that your working so hard to help?

> > On Nov 1, 2008, at 6:31 PM, Reynolds wrote:

> >

> > > Count me in.

> > >

> > > I don't take offence, I can't help what I am.......

> > >

> > > Arias wrote:

> > > >

> > > > I don't mean to offend anyone, but I was just curious as to

> how many

> > > > men are on the board trying to recover their child.

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

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Thanks for the kind words .

Glad to hear you are headed in the right direction now.

You are right, its horrible how a lot of these kids have to suffer, and

boy do some of them and their families suffer. I've seen kids that you

can tell are absolutely terrified and traumatised by the ordinary world,

and many of the people around them, including their teachers etc, are

oblivious to it and have an attitude like.... " oh he's OK, he's just

autistic..... "

Hopefully the more we get our kids better, the more the message will get

out, and the more other parents will become informed that they can help

their kids tremendously.

Arias wrote:

>

> She is in good hands.

> Mine is 9. And I just recently figured out what was wrong with her.

> She would rage from morning to night. Hated the world. Started at age

> 2. It was awful. At age 3, she was looking to attack with a knife.

> Man, when I think about it, it makes me sick to my stomach, that

> these kids have to suffer. ANyway, this past year, with the help of a

> wonderful woman who found me on the internet, we pieced together what

> was going on. It is mercury. At least we are not in the dark anymore,

> and we can concentrate on heeling her. She is at least stable and

> getting a bit better. At least now she goes out of the house. She use

> to sit on the couch all day long, cutting hair and trying to cut

> moles off her body. She thought she was the ugliest thing on earth,

> and she is beautiful. Ooops, sorry to go on and on....

> On Nov 1, 2008, at 7:22 PM, Reynolds wrote:

>

> > My daughter is 5.

> >

> > Arias wrote:

> > >

> > > Your awesome!!!

> > > So is my husband in a different way!

> > > Sorry, if I didn't catch it...

> > > but how old is your child that your working so hard to help?

> > > On Nov 1, 2008, at 6:31 PM, Reynolds wrote:

> > >

> > > > Count me in.

> > > >

> > > > I don't take offence, I can't help what I am.......

> > > >

> > > > Arias wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > I don't mean to offend anyone, but I was just curious as to

> > how many

> > > > > men are on the board trying to recover their child.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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, are you seeing progress with your little one? I bet its a good

thing that you found this board while your child is stllll pretty

young. How old was your child when you discovered something was wrong?

On Nov 2, 2008, at 12:31 AM, Reynolds wrote:

> Thanks for the kind words .

>

> Glad to hear you are headed in the right direction now.

>

> You are right, its horrible how a lot of these kids have to suffer,

> and

> boy do some of them and their families suffer. I've seen kids that you

> can tell are absolutely terrified and traumatised by the ordinary

> world,

> and many of the people around them, including their teachers etc, are

> oblivious to it and have an attitude like.... " oh he's OK, he's just

> autistic..... "

>

> Hopefully the more we get our kids better, the more the message

> will get

> out, and the more other parents will become informed that they can

> help

> their kids tremendously.

>

> Arias wrote:

> >

> > She is in good hands.

> > Mine is 9. And I just recently figured out what was wrong with her.

> > She would rage from morning to night. Hated the world. Started at

> age

> > 2. It was awful. At age 3, she was looking to attack with a knife.

> > Man, when I think about it, it makes me sick to my stomach, that

> > these kids have to suffer. ANyway, this past year, with the help

> of a

> > wonderful woman who found me on the internet, we pieced together

> what

> > was going on. It is mercury. At least we are not in the dark

> anymore,

> > and we can concentrate on heeling her. She is at least stable and

> > getting a bit better. At least now she goes out of the house. She

> use

> > to sit on the couch all day long, cutting hair and trying to cut

> > moles off her body. She thought she was the ugliest thing on earth,

> > and she is beautiful. Ooops, sorry to go on and on....

> > On Nov 1, 2008, at 7:22 PM, Reynolds wrote:

> >

> > > My daughter is 5.

> > >

> > > Arias wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Your awesome!!!

> > > > So is my husband in a different way!

> > > > Sorry, if I didn't catch it...

> > > > but how old is your child that your working so hard to help?

> > > > On Nov 1, 2008, at 6:31 PM, Reynolds wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Count me in.

> > > > >

> > > > > I don't take offence, I can't help what I am.......

> > > > >

> > > > > Arias wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I don't mean to offend anyone, but I was just curious as to

> > > how many

> > > > > > men are on the board trying to recover their child.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

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My little girl was very bright when she was born. Walked early, talked

early, although I'm sure some of the early vaccines were taking their

toll along the way, in terms of things like jaundice after hep B and

then digestive issues after that, etc. But once that MMR hit she had a

really big reaction and things started going rapidly down hill from

there. Although we noticed how sick she got, we didn't realise how bad

things were at first because she was still picking up some words here

and there. But after a little while I noticed words that used to be

said were gone and then it wasn't long before all speech was gone.

Tantrums and uncontrollable crying soon followed, eye contact

evapourated, then came the self harming, and the shear screaming. When

it got to its worst, the poor little thing often wouldn't even tolerate

anyone being in the same room as her. (I know many of you know how that

makes you feel as a parent, when you child doesn't even want you in the

same room.)

It was great that I got a hold of Andy's book relatively early and found

this group. It has made a massive difference.

We now have full speech back, spelling and reading is really good.

Maya now plays properly with her brother, when before she didn't even

know he existed. Her cognition seems to keep improving as we get

through round after round. For example, our most recent indication of

improvement came about a week or so ago. Maya and her brother started

fighting. By the time I got to the room her brother Rohan was crying

and Maya was no where to be found. I gave Rohan a hug and made sure he

was OK, then I went in search of Maya. If the kids fight, they get a

time out upstairs in their bedrooms. So I go upstairs and sure enough

Maya is in her room with the door closed.

Looks like she has given herself a time out. I open the door and Maya

is sitting on the edge of the bed looking sad. Maya looks up at me....

Maya: Sorry Dada.

Me: What happened Maya?

Maya: I got angry. I hit Rohan. I hurt him. I'm sorry Dad. I should

go downstairs and give Rohan and hug and say I am sorry.

I was speechless. So I just nodded. Then Maya went downstairs and did

exactly what she said she would, and both the kids were happy again.

One of the easiest moments of parenting I've had in a long time.

I'm really tired from " every 3 hours " round the clock, weekend after

weekend. But when things like this happen, my motivation couldn't be

greater.

I've thanked Andy a number of times....but I don't think I can thank him

enough.....thanks again Andy.....

Arias wrote:

>

> , are you seeing progress with your little one? I bet its a good

> thing that you found this board while your child is stllll pretty

> young. How old was your child when you discovered something was wrong?

> On Nov 2, 2008, at 12:31 AM, Reynolds wrote:

>

> > Thanks for the kind words .

> >

> > Glad to hear you are headed in the right direction now.

> >

> > You are right, its horrible how a lot of these kids have to suffer,

> > and

> > boy do some of them and their families suffer. I've seen kids that you

> > can tell are absolutely terrified and traumatised by the ordinary

> > world,

> > and many of the people around them, including their teachers etc, are

> > oblivious to it and have an attitude like.... " oh he's OK, he's just

> > autistic..... "

> >

> > Hopefully the more we get our kids better, the more the message

> > will get

> > out, and the more other parents will become informed that they can

> > help

> > their kids tremendously.

> >

> > Arias wrote:

> > >

> > > She is in good hands.

> > > Mine is 9. And I just recently figured out what was wrong with her.

> > > She would rage from morning to night. Hated the world. Started at

> > age

> > > 2. It was awful. At age 3, she was looking to attack with a knife.

> > > Man, when I think about it, it makes me sick to my stomach, that

> > > these kids have to suffer. ANyway, this past year, with the help

> > of a

> > > wonderful woman who found me on the internet, we pieced together

> > what

> > > was going on. It is mercury. At least we are not in the dark

> > anymore,

> > > and we can concentrate on heeling her. She is at least stable and

> > > getting a bit better. At least now she goes out of the house. She

> > use

> > > to sit on the couch all day long, cutting hair and trying to cut

> > > moles off her body. She thought she was the ugliest thing on earth,

> > > and she is beautiful. Ooops, sorry to go on and on....

> > > On Nov 1, 2008, at 7:22 PM, Reynolds wrote:

> > >

> > > > My daughter is 5.

> > > >

> > > > Arias wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Your awesome!!!

> > > > > So is my husband in a different way!

> > > > > Sorry, if I didn't catch it...

> > > > > but how old is your child that your working so hard to help?

> > > > > On Nov 1, 2008, at 6:31 PM, Reynolds wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > Count me in.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I don't take offence, I can't help what I am.......

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Arias wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I don't mean to offend anyone, but I was just curious as to

> > > > how many

> > > > > > > men are on the board trying to recover their child.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

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OK, you got me crying my eyes out over here. You made my day!!! I

feel like giving her a big (((hug)))) myself!!!!

It is so interesting, becuase my dd never wanted us around either.

She use to hide in the closest to eat. It was like she hated us. Last

night she told me that I looked really pretty for the first time. (I

looked like death, actually.) She use to never be able to be by me,

because everything about me scared her or made her really irritable.

<sigh> I am going to email Andy right now and thank him.

On Nov 2, 2008, at 1:42 AM, Reynolds wrote:

> My little girl was very bright when she was born. Walked early, talked

> early, although I'm sure some of the early vaccines were taking their

> toll along the way, in terms of things like jaundice after hep B and

> then digestive issues after that, etc. But once that MMR hit she had a

> really big reaction and things started going rapidly down hill from

> there. Although we noticed how sick she got, we didn't realise how bad

> things were at first because she was still picking up some words here

> and there. But after a little while I noticed words that used to be

> said were gone and then it wasn't long before all speech was gone.

> Tantrums and uncontrollable crying soon followed, eye contact

> evapourated, then came the self harming, and the shear screaming. When

> it got to its worst, the poor little thing often wouldn't even

> tolerate

> anyone being in the same room as her. (I know many of you know how

> that

> makes you feel as a parent, when you child doesn't even want you in

> the

> same room.)

>

> It was great that I got a hold of Andy's book relatively early and

> found

> this group. It has made a massive difference.

>

> We now have full speech back, spelling and reading is really good.

> Maya now plays properly with her brother, when before she didn't even

> know he existed. Her cognition seems to keep improving as we get

> through round after round. For example, our most recent indication of

> improvement came about a week or so ago. Maya and her brother started

> fighting. By the time I got to the room her brother Rohan was crying

> and Maya was no where to be found. I gave Rohan a hug and made sure he

> was OK, then I went in search of Maya. If the kids fight, they get a

> time out upstairs in their bedrooms. So I go upstairs and sure enough

> Maya is in her room with the door closed.

>

> Looks like she has given herself a time out. I open the door and Maya

> is sitting on the edge of the bed looking sad. Maya looks up at me....

>

> Maya: Sorry Dada.

> Me: What happened Maya?

> Maya: I got angry. I hit Rohan. I hurt him. I'm sorry Dad. I should

> go downstairs and give Rohan and hug and say I am sorry.

>

> I was speechless. So I just nodded. Then Maya went downstairs and did

> exactly what she said she would, and both the kids were happy again.

>

> One of the easiest moments of parenting I've had in a long time.

>

> I'm really tired from " every 3 hours " round the clock, weekend after

> weekend. But when things like this happen, my motivation couldn't be

> greater.

>

> I've thanked Andy a number of times....but I don't think I can

> thank him

> enough.....thanks again Andy.....

>

> Arias wrote:

> >

> > , are you seeing progress with your little one? I bet its a

> good

> > thing that you found this board while your child is stllll pretty

> > young. How old was your child when you discovered something was

> wrong?

> > On Nov 2, 2008, at 12:31 AM, Reynolds wrote:

> >

> > > Thanks for the kind words .

> > >

> > > Glad to hear you are headed in the right direction now.

> > >

> > > You are right, its horrible how a lot of these kids have to

> suffer,

> > > and

> > > boy do some of them and their families suffer. I've seen kids

> that you

> > > can tell are absolutely terrified and traumatised by the ordinary

> > > world,

> > > and many of the people around them, including their teachers

> etc, are

> > > oblivious to it and have an attitude like.... " oh he's OK, he's

> just

> > > autistic..... "

> > >

> > > Hopefully the more we get our kids better, the more the message

> > > will get

> > > out, and the more other parents will become informed that they can

> > > help

> > > their kids tremendously.

> > >

> > > Arias wrote:

> > > >

> > > > She is in good hands.

> > > > Mine is 9. And I just recently figured out what was wrong

> with her.

> > > > She would rage from morning to night. Hated the world.

> Started at

> > > age

> > > > 2. It was awful. At age 3, she was looking to attack with a

> knife.

> > > > Man, when I think about it, it makes me sick to my stomach, that

> > > > these kids have to suffer. ANyway, this past year, with the help

> > > of a

> > > > wonderful woman who found me on the internet, we pieced together

> > > what

> > > > was going on. It is mercury. At least we are not in the dark

> > > anymore,

> > > > and we can concentrate on heeling her. She is at least stable

> and

> > > > getting a bit better. At least now she goes out of the house.

> She

> > > use

> > > > to sit on the couch all day long, cutting hair and trying to cut

> > > > moles off her body. She thought she was the ugliest thing on

> earth,

> > > > and she is beautiful. Ooops, sorry to go on and on....

> > > > On Nov 1, 2008, at 7:22 PM, Reynolds wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > My daughter is 5.

> > > > >

> > > > > Arias wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Your awesome!!!

> > > > > > So is my husband in a different way!

> > > > > > Sorry, if I didn't catch it...

> > > > > > but how old is your child that your working so hard to help?

> > > > > > On Nov 1, 2008, at 6:31 PM, Reynolds wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Count me in.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I don't take offence, I can't help what I am.......

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Arias wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I don't mean to offend anyone, but I was just curious

> as to

> > > > > how many

> > > > > > > > men are on the board trying to recover their child.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

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you do sound like wonderfully involved, caring dad. my children are older.

my asd daughter is 14.

i wonder if she has a chance to be somewhat normal if i do this protocol?

she has a lot of issues and was very damaged by the hep. B shot initially.

kathy

Re: [ ] Men???

> My little girl was very bright when she was born. Walked early, talked

> early, although I'm sure some of the early vaccines were taking their

> toll along the way, in terms of things like jaundice after hep B and

> then digestive issues after that, etc. But once that MMR hit she had a

> really big reaction and things started going rapidly down hill from

> there. Although we noticed how sick she got, we didn't realise how bad

> things were at first because she was still picking up some words here

> and there. But after a little while I noticed words that used to be

> said were gone and then it wasn't long before all speech was gone.

> Tantrums and uncontrollable crying soon followed, eye contact

> evapourated, then came the self harming, and the shear screaming. When

> it got to its worst, the poor little thing often wouldn't even tolerate

> anyone being in the same room as her. (I know many of you know how that

> makes you feel as a parent, when you child doesn't even want you in the

> same room.)

>

> It was great that I got a hold of Andy's book relatively early and found

> this group. It has made a massive difference.

>

> We now have full speech back, spelling and reading is really good.

> Maya now plays properly with her brother, when before she didn't even

> know he existed. Her cognition seems to keep improving as we get

> through round after round. For example, our most recent indication of

> improvement came about a week or so ago. Maya and her brother started

> fighting. By the time I got to the room her brother Rohan was crying

> and Maya was no where to be found. I gave Rohan a hug and made sure he

> was OK, then I went in search of Maya. If the kids fight, they get a

> time out upstairs in their bedrooms. So I go upstairs and sure enough

> Maya is in her room with the door closed.

>

> Looks like she has given herself a time out. I open the door and Maya

> is sitting on the edge of the bed looking sad. Maya looks up at me....

>

> Maya: Sorry Dada.

> Me: What happened Maya?

> Maya: I got angry. I hit Rohan. I hurt him. I'm sorry Dad. I should

> go downstairs and give Rohan and hug and say I am sorry.

>

> I was speechless. So I just nodded. Then Maya went downstairs and did

> exactly what she said she would, and both the kids were happy again.

>

> One of the easiest moments of parenting I've had in a long time.

>

> I'm really tired from " every 3 hours " round the clock, weekend after

> weekend. But when things like this happen, my motivation couldn't be

> greater.

>

> I've thanked Andy a number of times....but I don't think I can thank him

> enough.....thanks again Andy.....

>

>

>

>

> Arias wrote:

>>

>> , are you seeing progress with your little one? I bet its a good

>> thing that you found this board while your child is stllll pretty

>> young. How old was your child when you discovered something was wrong?

>> On Nov 2, 2008, at 12:31 AM, Reynolds wrote:

>>

>> > Thanks for the kind words .

>> >

>> > Glad to hear you are headed in the right direction now.

>> >

>> > You are right, its horrible how a lot of these kids have to suffer,

>> > and

>> > boy do some of them and their families suffer. I've seen kids that you

>> > can tell are absolutely terrified and traumatised by the ordinary

>> > world,

>> > and many of the people around them, including their teachers etc, are

>> > oblivious to it and have an attitude like.... " oh he's OK, he's just

>> > autistic..... "

>> >

>> > Hopefully the more we get our kids better, the more the message

>> > will get

>> > out, and the more other parents will become informed that they can

>> > help

>> > their kids tremendously.

>> >

>> > Arias wrote:

>> > >

>> > > She is in good hands.

>> > > Mine is 9. And I just recently figured out what was wrong with her.

>> > > She would rage from morning to night. Hated the world. Started at

>> > age

>> > > 2. It was awful. At age 3, she was looking to attack with a knife.

>> > > Man, when I think about it, it makes me sick to my stomach, that

>> > > these kids have to suffer. ANyway, this past year, with the help

>> > of a

>> > > wonderful woman who found me on the internet, we pieced together

>> > what

>> > > was going on. It is mercury. At least we are not in the dark

>> > anymore,

>> > > and we can concentrate on heeling her. She is at least stable and

>> > > getting a bit better. At least now she goes out of the house. She

>> > use

>> > > to sit on the couch all day long, cutting hair and trying to cut

>> > > moles off her body. She thought she was the ugliest thing on earth,

>> > > and she is beautiful. Ooops, sorry to go on and on....

>> > > On Nov 1, 2008, at 7:22 PM, Reynolds wrote:

>> > >

>> > > > My daughter is 5.

>> > > >

>> > > > Arias wrote:

>> > > > >

>> > > > > Your awesome!!!

>> > > > > So is my husband in a different way!

>> > > > > Sorry, if I didn't catch it...

>> > > > > but how old is your child that your working so hard to help?

>> > > > > On Nov 1, 2008, at 6:31 PM, Reynolds wrote:

>> > > > >

>> > > > > > Count me in.

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > I don't take offence, I can't help what I am.......

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > Arias wrote:

>> > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > I don't mean to offend anyone, but I was just curious as to

>> > > > how many

>> > > > > > > men are on the board trying to recover their child.

>> > > > > > >

>> > > > > > >

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > >

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From what I hear from others it seems the older the child, the longer

things take. This kinda makes sense when you look at general healing,

for example, if my son grazes his leg, the skin heals up a lot quicker

than mine dose if I have the same accident.

But there have been a few members of this group that are getting good

results with older kids, so I think its worth some serious consideration.

And adults are successfully using this protocol, so I think that's

encouraging.

Hudson wrote:

>

> you do sound like wonderfully involved, caring dad. my children are

> older.

> my asd daughter is 14.

> i wonder if she has a chance to be somewhat normal if i do this protocol?

> she has a lot of issues and was very damaged by the hep. B shot initially.

> kathy

>

> Re: [ ] Men???

>

> > My little girl was very bright when she was born. Walked early, talked

> > early, although I'm sure some of the early vaccines were taking their

> > toll along the way, in terms of things like jaundice after hep B and

> > then digestive issues after that, etc. But once that MMR hit she had a

> > really big reaction and things started going rapidly down hill from

> > there. Although we noticed how sick she got, we didn't realise how bad

> > things were at first because she was still picking up some words here

> > and there. But after a little while I noticed words that used to be

> > said were gone and then it wasn't long before all speech was gone.

> > Tantrums and uncontrollable crying soon followed, eye contact

> > evapourated, then came the self harming, and the shear screaming. When

> > it got to its worst, the poor little thing often wouldn't even tolerate

> > anyone being in the same room as her. (I know many of you know how that

> > makes you feel as a parent, when you child doesn't even want you in the

> > same room.)

> >

> > It was great that I got a hold of Andy's book relatively early and found

> > this group. It has made a massive difference.

> >

> > We now have full speech back, spelling and reading is really good.

> > Maya now plays properly with her brother, when before she didn't even

> > know he existed. Her cognition seems to keep improving as we get

> > through round after round. For example, our most recent indication of

> > improvement came about a week or so ago. Maya and her brother started

> > fighting. By the time I got to the room her brother Rohan was crying

> > and Maya was no where to be found. I gave Rohan a hug and made sure he

> > was OK, then I went in search of Maya. If the kids fight, they get a

> > time out upstairs in their bedrooms. So I go upstairs and sure enough

> > Maya is in her room with the door closed.

> >

> > Looks like she has given herself a time out. I open the door and Maya

> > is sitting on the edge of the bed looking sad. Maya looks up at me....

> >

> > Maya: Sorry Dada.

> > Me: What happened Maya?

> > Maya: I got angry. I hit Rohan. I hurt him. I'm sorry Dad. I should

> > go downstairs and give Rohan and hug and say I am sorry.

> >

> > I was speechless. So I just nodded. Then Maya went downstairs and did

> > exactly what she said she would, and both the kids were happy again.

> >

> > One of the easiest moments of parenting I've had in a long time.

> >

> > I'm really tired from " every 3 hours " round the clock, weekend after

> > weekend. But when things like this happen, my motivation couldn't be

> > greater.

> >

> > I've thanked Andy a number of times....but I don't think I can thank him

> > enough.....thanks again Andy.....

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Arias wrote:

> >>

> >> , are you seeing progress with your little one? I bet its a good

> >> thing that you found this board while your child is stllll pretty

> >> young. How old was your child when you discovered something was wrong?

> >> On Nov 2, 2008, at 12:31 AM, Reynolds wrote:

> >>

> >> > Thanks for the kind words .

> >> >

> >> > Glad to hear you are headed in the right direction now.

> >> >

> >> > You are right, its horrible how a lot of these kids have to suffer,

> >> > and

> >> > boy do some of them and their families suffer. I've seen kids

> that you

> >> > can tell are absolutely terrified and traumatised by the ordinary

> >> > world,

> >> > and many of the people around them, including their teachers etc, are

> >> > oblivious to it and have an attitude like.... " oh he's OK, he's just

> >> > autistic..... "

> >> >

> >> > Hopefully the more we get our kids better, the more the message

> >> > will get

> >> > out, and the more other parents will become informed that they can

> >> > help

> >> > their kids tremendously.

> >> >

> >> > Arias wrote:

> >> > >

> >> > > She is in good hands.

> >> > > Mine is 9. And I just recently figured out what was wrong with her.

> >> > > She would rage from morning to night. Hated the world. Started at

> >> > age

> >> > > 2. It was awful. At age 3, she was looking to attack with a knife.

> >> > > Man, when I think about it, it makes me sick to my stomach, that

> >> > > these kids have to suffer. ANyway, this past year, with the help

> >> > of a

> >> > > wonderful woman who found me on the internet, we pieced together

> >> > what

> >> > > was going on. It is mercury. At least we are not in the dark

> >> > anymore,

> >> > > and we can concentrate on heeling her. She is at least stable and

> >> > > getting a bit better. At least now she goes out of the house. She

> >> > use

> >> > > to sit on the couch all day long, cutting hair and trying to cut

> >> > > moles off her body. She thought she was the ugliest thing on earth,

> >> > > and she is beautiful. Ooops, sorry to go on and on....

> >> > > On Nov 1, 2008, at 7:22 PM, Reynolds wrote:

> >> > >

> >> > > > My daughter is 5.

> >> > > >

> >> > > > Arias wrote:

> >> > > > >

> >> > > > > Your awesome!!!

> >> > > > > So is my husband in a different way!

> >> > > > > Sorry, if I didn't catch it...

> >> > > > > but how old is your child that your working so hard to help?

> >> > > > > On Nov 1, 2008, at 6:31 PM, Reynolds wrote:

> >> > > > >

> >> > > > > > Count me in.

> >> > > > > >

> >> > > > > > I don't take offence, I can't help what I am.......

> >> > > > > >

> >> > > > > > Arias wrote:

> >> > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > I don't mean to offend anyone, but I was just curious as to

> >> > > > how many

> >> > > > > > > men are on the board trying to recover their child.

> >> > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > >

> >> > > > > >

> >> > > > > >

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we've done a lot of gut healing, immune support, plus lots of therapy,

auditory training,

diets, all through DAN. she's actually come a very long way because the

HEP. B made

her have severe gut issues, severe hypotonia, apraxia, severe sensory

disorder.

we also did about 7 rounds of TD DMSA but it was about 2 years ago. we've

even looked

into the testosterone issue. she has tantrums still and lots of stress and

anxiety but is mostly

non verbal so she cannot describe her feelings. i think the one thing that

i've not addressed is

the metals and that is the main thing, really............

Re: [ ] Men???

>>

>> > My little girl was very bright when she was born. Walked early, talked

>> > early, although I'm sure some of the early vaccines were taking their

>> > toll along the way, in terms of things like jaundice after hep B and

>> > then digestive issues after that, etc. But once that MMR hit she had a

>> > really big reaction and things started going rapidly down hill from

>> > there. Although we noticed how sick she got, we didn't realise how bad

>> > things were at first because she was still picking up some words here

>> > and there. But after a little while I noticed words that used to be

>> > said were gone and then it wasn't long before all speech was gone.

>> > Tantrums and uncontrollable crying soon followed, eye contact

>> > evapourated, then came the self harming, and the shear screaming. When

>> > it got to its worst, the poor little thing often wouldn't even tolerate

>> > anyone being in the same room as her. (I know many of you know how that

>> > makes you feel as a parent, when you child doesn't even want you in the

>> > same room.)

>> >

>> > It was great that I got a hold of Andy's book relatively early and

>> > found

>> > this group. It has made a massive difference.

>> >

>> > We now have full speech back, spelling and reading is really good.

>> > Maya now plays properly with her brother, when before she didn't even

>> > know he existed. Her cognition seems to keep improving as we get

>> > through round after round. For example, our most recent indication of

>> > improvement came about a week or so ago. Maya and her brother started

>> > fighting. By the time I got to the room her brother Rohan was crying

>> > and Maya was no where to be found. I gave Rohan a hug and made sure he

>> > was OK, then I went in search of Maya. If the kids fight, they get a

>> > time out upstairs in their bedrooms. So I go upstairs and sure enough

>> > Maya is in her room with the door closed.

>> >

>> > Looks like she has given herself a time out. I open the door and Maya

>> > is sitting on the edge of the bed looking sad. Maya looks up at me....

>> >

>> > Maya: Sorry Dada.

>> > Me: What happened Maya?

>> > Maya: I got angry. I hit Rohan. I hurt him. I'm sorry Dad. I should

>> > go downstairs and give Rohan and hug and say I am sorry.

>> >

>> > I was speechless. So I just nodded. Then Maya went downstairs and did

>> > exactly what she said she would, and both the kids were happy again.

>> >

>> > One of the easiest moments of parenting I've had in a long time.

>> >

>> > I'm really tired from " every 3 hours " round the clock, weekend after

>> > weekend. But when things like this happen, my motivation couldn't be

>> > greater.

>> >

>> > I've thanked Andy a number of times....but I don't think I can thank

>> > him

>> > enough.....thanks again Andy.....

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > Arias wrote:

>> >>

>> >> , are you seeing progress with your little one? I bet its a good

>> >> thing that you found this board while your child is stllll pretty

>> >> young. How old was your child when you discovered something was wrong?

>> >> On Nov 2, 2008, at 12:31 AM, Reynolds wrote:

>> >>

>> >> > Thanks for the kind words .

>> >> >

>> >> > Glad to hear you are headed in the right direction now.

>> >> >

>> >> > You are right, its horrible how a lot of these kids have to suffer,

>> >> > and

>> >> > boy do some of them and their families suffer. I've seen kids

>> that you

>> >> > can tell are absolutely terrified and traumatised by the ordinary

>> >> > world,

>> >> > and many of the people around them, including their teachers etc,

>> >> > are

>> >> > oblivious to it and have an attitude like.... " oh he's OK, he's just

>> >> > autistic..... "

>> >> >

>> >> > Hopefully the more we get our kids better, the more the message

>> >> > will get

>> >> > out, and the more other parents will become informed that they can

>> >> > help

>> >> > their kids tremendously.

>> >> >

>> >> > Arias wrote:

>> >> > >

>> >> > > She is in good hands.

>> >> > > Mine is 9. And I just recently figured out what was wrong with

>> >> > > her.

>> >> > > She would rage from morning to night. Hated the world. Started at

>> >> > age

>> >> > > 2. It was awful. At age 3, she was looking to attack with a knife.

>> >> > > Man, when I think about it, it makes me sick to my stomach, that

>> >> > > these kids have to suffer. ANyway, this past year, with the help

>> >> > of a

>> >> > > wonderful woman who found me on the internet, we pieced together

>> >> > what

>> >> > > was going on. It is mercury. At least we are not in the dark

>> >> > anymore,

>> >> > > and we can concentrate on heeling her. She is at least stable and

>> >> > > getting a bit better. At least now she goes out of the house. She

>> >> > use

>> >> > > to sit on the couch all day long, cutting hair and trying to cut

>> >> > > moles off her body. She thought she was the ugliest thing on

>> >> > > earth,

>> >> > > and she is beautiful. Ooops, sorry to go on and on....

>> >> > > On Nov 1, 2008, at 7:22 PM, Reynolds wrote:

>> >> > >

>> >> > > > My daughter is 5.

>> >> > > >

>> >> > > > Arias wrote:

>> >> > > > >

>> >> > > > > Your awesome!!!

>> >> > > > > So is my husband in a different way!

>> >> > > > > Sorry, if I didn't catch it...

>> >> > > > > but how old is your child that your working so hard to help?

>> >> > > > > On Nov 1, 2008, at 6:31 PM, Reynolds wrote:

>> >> > > > >

>> >> > > > > > Count me in.

>> >> > > > > >

>> >> > > > > > I don't take offence, I can't help what I am.......

>> >> > > > > >

>> >> > > > > > Arias wrote:

>> >> > > > > > >

>> >> > > > > > > I don't mean to offend anyone, but I was just curious as

>> >> > > > > > > to

>> >> > > > how many

>> >> > > > > > > men are on the board trying to recover their child.

>> >> > > > > > >

>> >> > > > > > >

>> >> > > > > >

>> >> > > > > >

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Kathy,

That all happened from the Hep B vaccine. My dd was damaged from that

vaccine too, and we thought she had high testosterone levels too. She

wanted to be a boy and was very violent. She is more bi-polar. The

ALA and yeast control is really helping her.

On Nov 2, 2008, at 7:15 PM, Hudson wrote:

> we've done a lot of gut healing, immune support, plus lots of therapy,

> auditory training,

> diets, all through DAN. she's actually come a very long way because

> the

> HEP. B made

> her have severe gut issues, severe hypotonia, apraxia, severe sensory

> disorder.

> we also did about 7 rounds of TD DMSA but it was about 2 years ago.

> we've

> even looked

> into the testosterone issue. she has tantrums still and lots of

> stress and

> anxiety but is mostly

> non verbal so she cannot describe her feelings. i think the one

> thing that

> i've not addressed is

> the metals and that is the main thing, really............

>

> Re: [ ] Men???

> >>

> >> > My little girl was very bright when she was born. Walked

> early, talked

> >> > early, although I'm sure some of the early vaccines were

> taking their

> >> > toll along the way, in terms of things like jaundice after hep

> B and

> >> > then digestive issues after that, etc. But once that MMR hit

> she had a

> >> > really big reaction and things started going rapidly down hill

> from

> >> > there. Although we noticed how sick she got, we didn't realise

> how bad

> >> > things were at first because she was still picking up some

> words here

> >> > and there. But after a little while I noticed words that used

> to be

> >> > said were gone and then it wasn't long before all speech was

> gone.

> >> > Tantrums and uncontrollable crying soon followed, eye contact

> >> > evapourated, then came the self harming, and the shear

> screaming. When

> >> > it got to its worst, the poor little thing often wouldn't even

> tolerate

> >> > anyone being in the same room as her. (I know many of you know

> how that

> >> > makes you feel as a parent, when you child doesn't even want

> you in the

> >> > same room.)

> >> >

> >> > It was great that I got a hold of Andy's book relatively early

> and

> >> > found

> >> > this group. It has made a massive difference.

> >> >

> >> > We now have full speech back, spelling and reading is really

> good.

> >> > Maya now plays properly with her brother, when before she

> didn't even

> >> > know he existed. Her cognition seems to keep improving as we get

> >> > through round after round. For example, our most recent

> indication of

> >> > improvement came about a week or so ago. Maya and her brother

> started

> >> > fighting. By the time I got to the room her brother Rohan was

> crying

> >> > and Maya was no where to be found. I gave Rohan a hug and made

> sure he

> >> > was OK, then I went in search of Maya. If the kids fight, they

> get a

> >> > time out upstairs in their bedrooms. So I go upstairs and sure

> enough

> >> > Maya is in her room with the door closed.

> >> >

> >> > Looks like she has given herself a time out. I open the door

> and Maya

> >> > is sitting on the edge of the bed looking sad. Maya looks up

> at me....

> >> >

> >> > Maya: Sorry Dada.

> >> > Me: What happened Maya?

> >> > Maya: I got angry. I hit Rohan. I hurt him. I'm sorry Dad. I

> should

> >> > go downstairs and give Rohan and hug and say I am sorry.

> >> >

> >> > I was speechless. So I just nodded. Then Maya went downstairs

> and did

> >> > exactly what she said she would, and both the kids were happy

> again.

> >> >

> >> > One of the easiest moments of parenting I've had in a long time.

> >> >

> >> > I'm really tired from " every 3 hours " round the clock, weekend

> after

> >> > weekend. But when things like this happen, my motivation

> couldn't be

> >> > greater.

> >> >

> >> > I've thanked Andy a number of times....but I don't think I can

> thank

> >> > him

> >> > enough.....thanks again Andy.....

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > Arias wrote:

> >> >>

> >> >> , are you seeing progress with your little one? I bet

> its a good

> >> >> thing that you found this board while your child is stllll

> pretty

> >> >> young. How old was your child when you discovered something

> was wrong?

> >> >> On Nov 2, 2008, at 12:31 AM, Reynolds wrote:

> >> >>

> >> >> > Thanks for the kind words .

> >> >> >

> >> >> > Glad to hear you are headed in the right direction now.

> >> >> >

> >> >> > You are right, its horrible how a lot of these kids have to

> suffer,

> >> >> > and

> >> >> > boy do some of them and their families suffer. I've seen kids

> >> that you

> >> >> > can tell are absolutely terrified and traumatised by the

> ordinary

> >> >> > world,

> >> >> > and many of the people around them, including their

> teachers etc,

> >> >> > are

> >> >> > oblivious to it and have an attitude like.... " oh he's OK,

> he's just

> >> >> > autistic..... "

> >> >> >

> >> >> > Hopefully the more we get our kids better, the more the

> message

> >> >> > will get

> >> >> > out, and the more other parents will become informed that

> they can

> >> >> > help

> >> >> > their kids tremendously.

> >> >> >

> >> >> > Arias wrote:

> >> >> > >

> >> >> > > She is in good hands.

> >> >> > > Mine is 9. And I just recently figured out what was wrong

> with

> >> >> > > her.

> >> >> > > She would rage from morning to night. Hated the world.

> Started at

> >> >> > age

> >> >> > > 2. It was awful. At age 3, she was looking to attack with

> a knife.

> >> >> > > Man, when I think about it, it makes me sick to my

> stomach, that

> >> >> > > these kids have to suffer. ANyway, this past year, with

> the help

> >> >> > of a

> >> >> > > wonderful woman who found me on the internet, we pieced

> together

> >> >> > what

> >> >> > > was going on. It is mercury. At least we are not in the dark

> >> >> > anymore,

> >> >> > > and we can concentrate on heeling her. She is at least

> stable and

> >> >> > > getting a bit better. At least now she goes out of the

> house. She

> >> >> > use

> >> >> > > to sit on the couch all day long, cutting hair and trying

> to cut

> >> >> > > moles off her body. She thought she was the ugliest thing on

> >> >> > > earth,

> >> >> > > and she is beautiful. Ooops, sorry to go on and on....

> >> >> > > On Nov 1, 2008, at 7:22 PM, Reynolds wrote:

> >> >> > >

> >> >> > > > My daughter is 5.

> >> >> > > >

> >> >> > > > Arias wrote:

> >> >> > > > >

> >> >> > > > > Your awesome!!!

> >> >> > > > > So is my husband in a different way!

> >> >> > > > > Sorry, if I didn't catch it...

> >> >> > > > > but how old is your child that your working so hard

> to help?

> >> >> > > > > On Nov 1, 2008, at 6:31 PM, Reynolds wrote:

> >> >> > > > >

> >> >> > > > > > Count me in.

> >> >> > > > > >

> >> >> > > > > > I don't take offence, I can't help what I am.......

> >> >> > > > > >

> >> >> > > > > > Arias wrote:

> >> >> > > > > > >

> >> >> > > > > > > I don't mean to offend anyone, but I was just

> curious as

> >> >> > > > > > > to

> >> >> > > > how many

> >> >> > > > > > > men are on the board trying to recover their child.

> >> >> > > > > > >

> >> >> > > > > > >

> >> >> > > > > >

> >> >> > > > > >

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