Re:Parasites? Could they be a problem? I

[Guest guest]

My son has Lyme and also babesia which is a parasite.  He is on mepron for

babesia and omnicef for borrelia.  His LLMD will keep him on mepron for at least

4 months.  Many other LLMD use artemisa (wormwood) for babesia and also treat

for a minimum of 4 months.  If you are seeing improvements with walnut oil and

herbals are your preferred treatment method, give artemisa a try.  Also,

whichever herbal you use, consider using a parasitic protocol for many months.

Caryn Reid

[Guest guest]

Her stool test showed no parasites. Are these tests sometimes wrong?

Are there other tests?

On Sep 15, 2008, at 9:38 AM, Caryn Reid wrote:

> My son has Lyme and also babesia which is a parasite. He is on

> mepron for babesia and omnicef for borrelia. His LLMD will keep

> him on mepron for at least 4 months. Many other LLMD use artemisa

> (wormwood) for babesia and also treat for a minimum of 4 months.

> If you are seeing improvements with walnut oil and herbals are your

> preferred treatment method, give artemisa a try. Also, whichever

> herbal you use, consider using a parasitic protocol for many months.

>

> Caryn Reid

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Her stool test showed no parasites. Are these tests sometimes

wrong?

> Are there other tests?

I suspect they can be wrong sometimes. I have read that some

parasitic infections are quite hard to diagnose.

Michele

http://www.healthgazelle.org

http://www.kidslikemine.org

[Guest guest]

My daughter has had horrible problems with parasites. They aren't in

her gut anymore, they are in her tissues. Parasites will move to soft

tissue when they are being killed off. They are very smart and will do

anything to survive.

If you notice your child is worse around the full moon, it is most

likely parasites. I've read a ton on this and I think I have my

daughter's issues figured out.

Google " parasites and mercury " . Mercury like fatty tissues, the brain

is mostly fatty tissue, so the mercury will bury itself in those

areas. Parasites are attracted to the charge the metals give off, so

they will move to the areas where the metals are, especially mercury.

I think chelation and parasite remedies work well together. I stopped

chelation in July not knowing that the only way I would be able to get

rid of my daugher's parasites was to chelate. Now I know.

It all sounds so weird and sort of witch crafty, but if you could have

seen my daughter yesterday, she was just nuts. Tonight is the full

moon and I have no been treating her for parasites. I gave her two

doses of Paragone for Kids yesterday and today she is back to where

she was. I will be starting ALA again at the end of the month as soon

as I get her back on Threelac.

I just thought I would let you know this. You may not always get a

positive for parasites, but they can still be there. I also bought the

Hulda e zapper which is supposed to be good for parasites in

tissues. I just don't know how to use it on a 3 year old, but I will

figure it out.

Good luck. I really think my child will recover once the metals and

parasites are gone. I know this will be a long process though.

> >

> > Her stool test showed no parasites. Are these tests sometimes

> wrong?

> > Are there other tests?

>

> I suspect they can be wrong sometimes. I have read that some

> parasitic infections are quite hard to diagnose.

>

> Michele

> http://www.healthgazelle.org

> http://www.kidslikemine.org

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for this info. We are sure my 21 month old daughter has a

parasite problem. We are also currently treating her for borrelia

(lyme). She is just wild around a full moon. For her, it's usually

the 2 days following the full moon. So tomorrow and Wednesday should

be fun around here. But her stool testing has never come up positive

for parasites. But I know they're there - I'm positive of it. It

never really dawned on me though that they might not be in the gut.

I'll have to look this up further. And she definately has heavy

metal issues, not mercury that we know of, but HUGE amounts of

antimony and some others.

Thanks again,

Sheri

>

> My daughter has had horrible problems with parasites. They aren't in

> her gut anymore, they are in her tissues. Parasites will move to

soft

> tissue when they are being killed off. They are very smart and will

do

> anything to survive.

>

> If you notice your child is worse around the full moon, it is most

> likely parasites. I've read a ton on this and I think I have my

> daughter's issues figured out.

>

> Google " parasites and mercury " . Mercury like fatty tissues, the

brain

> is mostly fatty tissue, so the mercury will bury itself in those

> areas. Parasites are attracted to the charge the metals give off, so

> they will move to the areas where the metals are, especially

mercury.

> I think chelation and parasite remedies work well together. I

stopped

> chelation in July not knowing that the only way I would be able to

get

> rid of my daugher's parasites was to chelate. Now I know.

>

> It all sounds so weird and sort of witch crafty, but if you could

have

> seen my daughter yesterday, she was just nuts. Tonight is the full

> moon and I have no been treating her for parasites. I gave her two

> doses of Paragone for Kids yesterday and today she is back to where

> she was. I will be starting ALA again at the end of the month as

soon

> as I get her back on Threelac.

>

> I just thought I would let you know this. You may not always get a

> positive for parasites, but they can still be there. I also bought

the

> Hulda e zapper which is supposed to be good for parasites in

> tissues. I just don't know how to use it on a 3 year old, but I will

> figure it out.

>

> Good luck. I really think my child will recover once the metals and

> parasites are gone. I know this will be a long process though.

[Guest guest]

Not all bugs are gut bugs. Parasites can be in the blood, brain and

other places, they don't have to be in the stool.

>

> > My son has Lyme and also babesia which is a parasite. He is on

> > mepron for babesia and omnicef for borrelia. His LLMD will keep

> > him on mepron for at least 4 months. Many other LLMD use

artemisa

> > (wormwood) for babesia and also treat for a minimum of 4

months.

> > If you are seeing improvements with walnut oil and herbals are

your

> > preferred treatment method, give artemisa a try. Also,

whichever

> > herbal you use, consider using a parasitic protocol for many

months.

> >

> > Caryn Reid

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I've been reading a lot about Lyme too. I ordered Cumanda and Samento

and want to try those as well. A woman on the MB12 list swears by

them. Her kids are recovered and she said treating for Lyme and

viruses was huge for her kids.

> >

> > My daughter has had horrible problems with parasites. They aren't in

> > her gut anymore, they are in her tissues. Parasites will move to

> soft

> > tissue when they are being killed off. They are very smart and will

> do

> > anything to survive.

> >

> > If you notice your child is worse around the full moon, it is most

> > likely parasites. I've read a ton on this and I think I have my

> > daughter's issues figured out.

> >

> > Google " parasites and mercury " . Mercury like fatty tissues, the

> brain

> > is mostly fatty tissue, so the mercury will bury itself in those

> > areas. Parasites are attracted to the charge the metals give off, so

> > they will move to the areas where the metals are, especially

> mercury.

> > I think chelation and parasite remedies work well together. I

> stopped

> > chelation in July not knowing that the only way I would be able to

> get

> > rid of my daugher's parasites was to chelate. Now I know.

> >

> > It all sounds so weird and sort of witch crafty, but if you could

> have

> > seen my daughter yesterday, she was just nuts. Tonight is the full

> > moon and I have no been treating her for parasites. I gave her two

> > doses of Paragone for Kids yesterday and today she is back to where

> > she was. I will be starting ALA again at the end of the month as

> soon

> > as I get her back on Threelac.

> >

> > I just thought I would let you know this. You may not always get a

> > positive for parasites, but they can still be there. I also bought

> the

> > Hulda e zapper which is supposed to be good for parasites in

> > tissues. I just don't know how to use it on a 3 year old, but I will

> > figure it out.

> >

> > Good luck. I really think my child will recover once the metals and

> > parasites are gone. I know this will be a long process though.

>

[Guest guest]

Some can even attach to the liver causing problems. They wouldn't show

up in the stool either. Was reading about it recently, and one thing

Hulda is adamant we stay away from is isopropyl (or rubbing)

alcohol, which she says creates an optimum environment in the human body

for the parasite life cycle, which otherwise wouldn't be able to

complete in a human.

P.

Caryn_Reid wrote:

>

> Not all bugs are gut bugs. Parasites can be in the blood, brain and

> other places, they don't have to be in the stool.

>

>

> >

> > > My son has Lyme and also babesia which is a parasite. He is on

> > > mepron for babesia and omnicef for borrelia. His LLMD will keep

> > > him on mepron for at least 4 months. Many other LLMD use

> artemisa

> > > (wormwood) for babesia and also treat for a minimum of 4

> months.

> > > If you are seeing improvements with walnut oil and herbals are

> your

> > > preferred treatment method, give artemisa a try. Also,

> whichever

> > > herbal you use, consider using a parasitic protocol for many

> months.

> > >

> > > Caryn Reid

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

So it the idea to just try something for parasites to see if there is

any improvement? then one would know?

On Sep 15, 2008, at 3:18 PM, Caryn_Reid wrote:

> Not all bugs are gut bugs. Parasites can be in the blood, brain and

> other places, they don't have to be in the stool.

>

>

> >

> > > My son has Lyme and also babesia which is a parasite. He is on

> > > mepron for babesia and omnicef for borrelia. His LLMD will keep

> > > him on mepron for at least 4 months. Many other LLMD use

> artemisa

> > > (wormwood) for babesia and also treat for a minimum of 4

> months.

> > > If you are seeing improvements with walnut oil and herbals are

> your

> > > preferred treatment method, give artemisa a try. Also,

> whichever

> > > herbal you use, consider using a parasitic protocol for many

> months.

> > >

> > > Caryn Reid

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Yes. I mentioned pathogens effecting the liver on the chelatingkids2

board today and got blasted by the moderator. I have had an

inflammed liver in the past that resolved with extensive

antibiotics. I have recently been diagnosed with borrelia, babesia

and bartonella.

> > >

> > > > My son has Lyme and also babesia which is a parasite. He is on

> > > > mepron for babesia and omnicef for borrelia. His LLMD will

keep

> > > > him on mepron for at least 4 months. Many other LLMD use

> > artemisa

> > > > (wormwood) for babesia and also treat for a minimum of 4

> > months.

> > > > If you are seeing improvements with walnut oil and herbals are

> > your

> > > > preferred treatment method, give artemisa a try. Also,

> > whichever

> > > > herbal you use, consider using a parasitic protocol for many

> > months.

> > > >

> > > > Caryn Reid

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I use the zapper on my 2 year old along with my 17 year old. I have

personally followed Dr. 's program and I follow it for a lot of my

clients. I know it works, I have seen it kill the parasites and you see it

in the stool a few days after the cleaning.

[Guest guest]

What is the zapper?

On Sep 15, 2008, at 9:34 PM, Wani wrote:

> Hi,

>

> I use the zapper on my 2 year old along with my 17 year old. I have

> personally followed Dr. 's program and I follow it for a lot

> of my

> clients. I know it works, I have seen it kill the parasites and you

> see it

> in the stool a few days after the cleaning.

>

>

[Guest guest]

I'd also be interesting in knowing more about that. I have heard of it

but don't recall all the details. I do have a 5 year old who ther is

NO WAY I am getting humma worm or walnut or any other good herb into.

I went to a applied kinesiologist to determine parasites. It's

relatively cheap way to diagnose. Since many parasites are not

detected on labs. The treatment is easy, if you can get the child to

take the stuff. And I have read that if one member of the family has

parasites. you need to treat the whole household. So we are goign to

do hummaworm..but the little guy is not going to take any herbal capsule.

So I am intrigued with the zapper...

>

> Hi,

>

>

>

> I use the zapper on my 2 year old along with my 17 year old. I have

> personally followed Dr. 's program and I follow it for a lot of my

> clients. I know it works, I have seen it kill the parasites and you

see it

> in the stool a few days after the cleaning.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

As it is full moon time and we are in the middle of this tx in our

family, for the 3rd month in a row - (we use applied kinesiology,

too), I can tell you how to get the yucky herbal stuff in your kid -

transdermally. We use a concoction called W.-W from a company called

Pure Herbs. (I use the herbal recommendations from Tenna Merchant).

My husband orders so I don't know who from - he called the 800# and

got the name of the closest place to order from. It contains Mugwort,

Black walnut hulls, male fern, pumpkin seed, and cascara sagrada. We

use 4 days prior, day of, and 4 days after full moon (parasite

reproduction/activity time). The rest of the month we use clove

(ground and sprinkled on anything or in a tea). After 3-4 months

then we'll do a course of OLE. While trying to keep yeast in check.

Honestly, the stuff takes like rotten garbage. My husband and I choke

it down in pear nectar. Sometimes my son will take it like that, and

if not we rub it on his feet and belly before bed. DON'T get it on

broken skin! Not pleasant. After the first month my son's sensory

issues improved so significantly he was able to go to the mall and

pick out a pair of shoes, try them on, play at the playground for 20

minutes, and eat in a restaurant for dinner.

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> >

> >

> > I use the zapper on my 2 year old along with my 17 year old. I

have

> > personally followed Dr. 's program and I follow it for a lot

of my

> > clients. I know it works, I have seen it kill the parasites and

you

> see it

> > in the stool a few days after the cleaning.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

>

> Some can even attach to the liver causing problems. They wouldn't

> how up in the stool either.

I did 's parasite cure for DD this summer and one of the first

changes that I noticed was in the colour of her stool. It went from

being light brown/orange (its usual colour for DD) to a dark brown.

Since bile affects stool colour & is produced in the liver, I assumed

that the treatment had a positive effect on the liver.

I am not sure that I got all parasites though and would also like to

know more about the zapper. These days, her stool is often in the

orangey tones, rather than brown, and it's not due to anything she's

eaten so I wonder if the parasites are still a problem.

Anyone notice behavioural improvements after parasitic treatment? We

had three amazing weeks behaviourally over the summer but since we

changed a few things, I'm not sure how much of these positives were

the result of the parasitic treatment.

[Guest guest]

Many parents treat to their suspicions and observe. I did not even

suspect parasites but my son tested positive for babesia in his

blood. His symptoms that resolved with treatment were excessive

thirst, poor physical strength and coordination and also

irritability. I also treated myself for this and what resolved for

me was irritability, excessive thirst, frequent chills and

menstruating at the full moon (healthy women not on any hormones tend

to ovulate at the full moon). I don't know much about other

parasites, just babesia.

> > >

> > > > My son has Lyme and also babesia which is a parasite. He is on

> > > > mepron for babesia and omnicef for borrelia. His LLMD will

keep

> > > > him on mepron for at least 4 months. Many other LLMD use

> > artemisa

> > > > (wormwood) for babesia and also treat for a minimum of 4

> > months.

> > > > If you are seeing improvements with walnut oil and herbals are

> > your

> > > > preferred treatment method, give artemisa a try. Also,

> > whichever

> > > > herbal you use, consider using a parasitic protocol for many

> > months.

> > > >

> > > > Caryn Reid

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

would that have showed up on all of the blood work that she has had?

or do you have to tell them to test for it? man, i would hate to have

another blood draw!

On Sep 16, 2008, at 9:20 AM, Caryn_Reid wrote:

> Many parents treat to their suspicions and observe. I did not even

> suspect parasites but my son tested positive for babesia in his

> blood. His symptoms that resolved with treatment were excessive

> thirst, poor physical strength and coordination and also

> irritability. I also treated myself for this and what resolved for

> me was irritability, excessive thirst, frequent chills and

> menstruating at the full moon (healthy women not on any hormones tend

> to ovulate at the full moon). I don't know much about other

> parasites, just babesia.

>

>

> > > >

> > > > > My son has Lyme and also babesia which is a parasite. He is on

> > > > > mepron for babesia and omnicef for borrelia. His LLMD will

> keep

> > > > > him on mepron for at least 4 months. Many other LLMD use

> > > artemisa

> > > > > (wormwood) for babesia and also treat for a minimum of 4

> > > months.

> > > > > If you are seeing improvements with walnut oil and herbals are

> > > your

> > > > > preferred treatment method, give artemisa a try. Also,

> > > whichever

> > > > > herbal you use, consider using a parasitic protocol for many

> > > months.

> > > > >

> > > > > Caryn Reid

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

-How do you do it on your 2 year old? I can't get my daughter to hold

the bars and sit for 7 minutes at a time.

Also, it the vibration really low? I can't feel anything.

-- In , " Wani " <jocanas@...> wrote:

>

> Hi,

>

>

>

> I use the zapper on my 2 year old along with my 17 year old. I have

> personally followed Dr. 's program and I follow it for a lot of my

> clients. I know it works, I have seen it kill the parasites and you

see it

> in the stool a few days after the cleaning.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Is it made transdermal or are you just applying it that way?

It's intriguing..and possibly could work in this case. He'd let us put

" lotion " on if it doesn't smell to horrid. Thanks for the tip..I will

look into it.

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I use the zapper on my 2 year old along with my 17 year old. I

> have

> > > personally followed Dr. 's program and I follow it for a lot

> of my

> > > clients. I know it works, I have seen it kill the parasites and

> you

> > see it

> > > in the stool a few days after the cleaning.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

My daughter is the same way. When I was giving her the RX Vermox she

was more like a kid with a speech delay. It was weird and great. This

is why I think I can recover her with treating parasites and

chelation. I just know it will take a while, but I see a different kid

when her parasites are under control.

I think I might start rubbing the Paragone on her feet. It has all of

that stuff in it. Thanks for this info!

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I use the zapper on my 2 year old along with my 17 year old. I

> have

> > > personally followed Dr. 's program and I follow it for a lot

> of my

> > > clients. I know it works, I have seen it kill the parasites and

> you

> > see it

> > > in the stool a few days after the cleaning.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Usually only a good lymes practioner would be testing for babesia.

The lab is Fry Laboratories in sdale, AZ. They use the same

test to detect Bartonella which is a known cause of encephalitis. My

son actually has both bartonella and babesia in addition to Lyme.

However, you don't need to have lyme to have either babesia or

bartonella.

> > > > >

> > > > > > My son has Lyme and also babesia which is a parasite. He

is on

> > > > > > mepron for babesia and omnicef for borrelia. His LLMD will

> > keep

> > > > > > him on mepron for at least 4 months. Many other LLMD use

> > > > artemisa

> > > > > > (wormwood) for babesia and also treat for a minimum of 4

> > > > months.

> > > > > > If you are seeing improvements with walnut oil and

herbals are

> > > > your

> > > > > > preferred treatment method, give artemisa a try. Also,

> > > > whichever

> > > > > > herbal you use, consider using a parasitic protocol for

many

> > > > months.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Caryn Reid

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

[Guest guest]

No it isn't transdermal, it is an herbal tincture, we just apply it

that way. It doesn't smell bad at all, but it is " liquidy " not lotion

like. So far, it works for us.

> > > >

> > > > Hi,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I use the zapper on my 2 year old along with my 17 year old.

I

> > have

> > > > personally followed Dr. 's program and I follow it for a

lot

> > of my

> > > > clients. I know it works, I have seen it kill the parasites

and

> > you

> > > see it

> > > > in the stool a few days after the cleaning.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

My understanding is that you have to treat the whole family, pets

included. Fortunately we're done with pets for now, but it is odd to

go through myself. Whoever stated about menstruation at the full moon

being parasite related- thanks! That is interesting. I had not ever

heard that. Here I thought I was in sync with nature, but no, just

have critters in my body. YUCK!

> > > >

> > > > Hi,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I use the zapper on my 2 year old along with my 17 year old.

I

> > have

> > > > personally followed Dr. 's program and I follow it for a

lot

> > of my

> > > > clients. I know it works, I have seen it kill the parasites

and

> > you

> > > see it

> > > > in the stool a few days after the cleaning.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Could this be why my two boys are acting wierd again for the past three days. 

They had been doing great for a month with new yeast treatment and other new

things we had started.  Then about three days ago - BAMM they started spitting

and playing with it.

Dana

and Garrett, just turned 4, SCD 2 years

Celiac, ASD, Speech and Motor Apraxia, sensory processing disorder

From: <sunshine369@...>

Subject: [ ] Re:Parasites? Could they be a problem? I

Date: Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 10:31 PM

My understanding is that you have to treat the whole family, pets

included. Fortunately we're done with pets for now, but it is odd to

go through myself. Whoever stated about menstruation at the full moon

being parasite related- thanks! That is interesting. I had not ever

heard that. Here I thought I was in sync with nature, but no, just

have critters in my body. YUCK!

> > > >

> > > > Hi,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I use the zapper on my 2 year old along with my 17 year old.

I

> > have

> > > > personally followed Dr. 's program and I follow it for a

lot

> > of my

> > > > clients. I know it works, I have seen it kill the parasites

and

> > you

> > > see it

> > > > in the stool a few days after the cleaning.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

May I ask, what is e's parastie treatment?

Thanks,

Sheri

> >

> > Some can even attach to the liver causing problems. They

wouldn't

> > how up in the stool either.

>

> I did 's parasite cure for DD this summer and one of the first

> changes that I noticed was in the colour of her stool. It went from

> being light brown/orange (its usual colour for DD) to a dark brown.

> Since bile affects stool colour & is produced in the liver, I

assumed

> that the treatment had a positive effect on the liver.

>

> I am not sure that I got all parasites though and would also like to

> know more about the zapper. These days, her stool is often in the

> orangey tones, rather than brown, and it's not due to anything she's

> eaten so I wonder if the parasites are still a problem.

>

> Anyone notice behavioural improvements after parasitic treatment? We

> had three amazing weeks behaviourally over the summer but since we

> changed a few things, I'm not sure how much of these positives were

> the result of the parasitic treatment.

>

>

>