What do I do now?

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--- hapsquilt@... wrote:

> From: hapsquilt@...

>

> I have hit a brick wall and need some advice. I was

> recently dx with Lyme and Babesia with pos results

> from Igenex, work up done by LLMD who does not

> currently practice due to Lyme. I had 2 tic bites

> and generalized rash in 10/94 and have been sick

> ever since-dx with FMS and CFIDS. I recently had to

> stop work due to pain, fatique, and neuro

> problems.None of the multiple treatments did

> anything for me over the years. The LLMD is willing

> to co-manage me with my local MD, but I do believe

> he has decided not to help me.....has not returned

> any calls in 10 days. He had agreed to consult with

> Sam Donta, MD but hasn't gotten back to me. I can

> make appt to be seen out of state by LLMD, but how

> is that going to help me if I can't get my PCP to

> co-operate? LLMD has suggested Dr. Burrascano's

> protocol, starting with 3 mos IV rocephin. I am

> soooooo frustrated, sick, and feel like time is

> awasting! How have others managed IV therapy and

> then orals by out of state LLMD?

>

> I can relate to your frustration! I was in the same position until

last week. I had to change insurance carriers and it has been a long

stressful ordeal.

I now have my line in place and am getting the IV treatments i need. My

LLD is in the same state but is 21/2 hours away so it makes it hard to

coordinate everything. You may need to change either PCPs or Insurance

provider to get anything done. It can be a real nightmare! I wish you

luck and hope you are succesful. Take care

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Hi,

You sure do have some problems. First off, where do you live? Not your

exact address, just the general area, maybe we can help you find a good

doctor. What kind of insurance do you have? Have you applied for SSDI? If

not do so as soon as possible, you don't know what the future will bring,

and if you are able to go back to work that's great.

Your Lyme and Babesia cannot go untreated, I know you said you have had

multiple treatments over the years, what kinds of meds were you on?

If your local LLMD is not able to help co-manage your care, maybe he can

recommend another doctor who can, if not, try to get your primary doctor to

treat you using Burrascano's protocol. I have not had to go out of state

for a consult, I hope someone on this list has had the experience and can

give you some more information. I know many doctors recommended by the Lyme

Disease Foundation are willing to work on a consultation basis, if all else

fails try calling them.

I do understand your frustration and concern about wasting time and getting

sicker, please keep us posted on your progress, and don't despair, there are

plenty of resources and we will be happy to help you find them.

Best to you,

Marta

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>From: hapsquilt@...

>

>I have hit a brick wall and need some advice. I was recently dx with Lyme

and Babesia with pos results from Igenex, work up done by LLMD who does not

currently practice due to Lyme. I had 2 tic bites and generalized rash in

10/94 and have been sick ever since-dx with FMS and CFIDS. I recently had to

stop work due to pain, fatique, and neuro problems.None of the multiple

treatments did anything for me over the years. The LLMD is willing to

co-manage me with my local MD, but I do believe he has decided not to help

me.....has not returned any calls in 10 days. He had agreed to consult with

Sam Donta, MD but hasn't gotten back to me. I can make appt to be seen out

of state by LLMD, but how is that going to help me if I can't get my PCP to

co-operate? LLMD has suggested Dr. Burrascano's protocol, starting with 3

mos IV rocephin. I am soooooo frustrated, sick, and feel like time is

awasting! How have others managed IV therapy and then orals by out of state

LLMD?

>

[Guest guest]

i feel for you. my experience has been that drs. have way too many patients

and just can't make time for YOU. i'd either harrass twice a day or switch.

i have been much too " dainty " in the past and now am " super woman " . only

you can look out for your health. the only problem w/switching is that once

again you have to wait, EVEN LONGER for an appointm. but may be worth it if

your dr. is not lyme literate. i am having to drive 4 -5 hours to go to a

LLMD. none in the state of VA as far as i know. i did do rocephin or 10

days, but the problem w/not dealing w/a non-LLMD is that they did not

recognize a herx. reaction and made me stop treatment ... really has hurt

me! i was so bummed out by drs. that i just gave up for about 4 months .. i

had to find a dr. as was really in pain.

best of luck. your are paying them after all, make them WORK!!!! GET " UM.

>From: hapsquilt@...

>

>I have hit a brick wall and need some advice. I was recently dx with Lyme

and Babesia with pos results from Igenex, work up done by LLMD who does not

currently practice due to Lyme. I had 2 tic bites and generalized rash in

10/94 and have been sick ever since-dx with FMS and CFIDS. I recently had to

stop work due to pain, fatique, and neuro problems.None of the multiple

treatments did anything for me over the years. The LLMD is willing to

co-manage me with my local MD, but I do believe he has decided not to help

me.....has not returned any calls in 10 days. He had agreed to consult with

Sam Donta, MD but hasn't gotten back to me. I can make appt to be seen out

of state by LLMD, but how is that going to help me if I can't get my PCP to

co-operate? LLMD has suggested Dr. Burrascano's protocol, starting with 3

mos IV rocephin. I am soooooo frustrated, sick, and feel like time is

awasting! How have others managed IV therapy and then orals by out of state

LLMD?

>

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Sherry;

For one, if you don't have it, you'll want clear clean water. Preferably filtered of chlorine and other unneeded chemicals. If you want it more comfortable let the water set to room temperature or heat it to around 100 degrees of what feels comfortable to your arm. That's all you'll need to get started.

DaleDa_@...

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Sherry,

I wish you luck on your first colonic. Make sure you put the bucket

higher then the board. I use a step ladder. My bathroom is small so I put

the ladder in the tub, fill the bucket with lukewarm water and whatever

herbs, lemon, coffee, whatever you have chosen. Then you need to put a chair

for the other end of the board. One end goes over the toilet bowl, the other

end goes over the chair. Making sure the chair end is slightly higher then

the toilet end, so everything flows downward. You may want a pillow. Bring

in the bathroom with you a bowl for bleach and water. You will want to

sterilize the bathroom and equipment when you finish. You will have to prime

the tube to get the water flowing. I use a small enema bulb, and squeeze

water into one end of the tube, make sure you get a good flow. Then, like an

enema bag, shut the flow off. Get on you board and get comfortable, you can

figure the rest. Massage your belly the whole time, this really help. Use a

tennis ball and roll over your tummy. Everytime you feel full, stop the flow

and release yourself. One more thing I would like to mention is, I do not

get good results on the board alone. It takes the cleaning herbs and the

board, for me to see result. Maybe you will do better.

Best wishes,

Bernadette

What do I do now?

>

> Hi everyone,

> Did I miss something? I haven't gotten any email from here all day.

> If things are still going ok, would like to know what do I do first.

> (My colema board comes tomarrow or the next day). What do I put in

> the water?

> Sherry

>

>

> Subscription email: bowel cleanse-subscribeegroups

>

[Guest guest]

Pur water is just fine! What you add after that is your choice. The various added ingredients serve special purposes. Coffee helps to get the liver stimulated and hopefully you'll get to experience a liver dump. The feeling is much the same as you may get with diarrhea, with a gurgling feeling in the area of the liver just before the on-rush. It is a little different from the normal peristaltic action and urge to relieve.

There are varied thoughts on as to whether it is necessary to stop the flow of water in, when having a peristaltic action, expelling. Try both ways and determine for yourself how you prefer to use this tool. One of the main things to do is 'relax' and let it happen. However, once you've obtained the full filling cleanse to the ascending colon, and start to get out some really old matter that's been sitting there for sometime, you may wish you had a better ventilation system, especially if it has that dead animal odor. This is where colonics has the colema beat, it's a closed system so there's very little odor, but the colema board has enemas beat by it's ease, and production being much greater with much less work. The main thing is, once that is cleaned, there is much less tendency to have that again, and especially when the diet is high in fiber and has less fatty meats.

Every way of colon cleansing has its drawbacks and benefits. Using just herbs and foods can take an enormous amount of time to get the bowl back in condition but can provide the bulk that is needed along with nutrition, which may have limited absorption because of the bowels being dirty. Where enemas, colemas, or colonics can help clear out a lot of old matter in a fairly short length of time.

One thing to keep in mind is that when doing any of the water cleansing methods have some electrolytes available to replenish your body, and along with that a good chelated mineral supplement too. Once you start to get the liver to do what are known as liver dumps you'll notice the feeling of having run a marathon after it really starts to respond.

Something you might want to try to help the liver respond quickly is to take about 3 to 4 ounces of an EFA a couple of hours before you do the cleanse. This can help to act as a liver and gallbladder cleanse without going through all the other processes of drinking a larger a potion of olive oil and juice blended, and purging the system using Epsom salts. A high quality cold pressed olive oil does very nicely, but most any other will do too. If you do have unknown stones you will be able to see in the existing passes as to whether there is any, or it may show the next morning. This is what one style may look like.

DaleDa_@...

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Dale,

We have a pur water filter that I pour all my water threw before we use it or drink it. Will that do? Also, what about using coffee or benonitte(?) clay in the water?

Sherry

What do I do now?

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Bernadette,

thanks for the information. The board I ordered comes with a bucket with

a tap built in. You said coffee, lemon, ect. How much do you put in the

water and what is the lemon about? We are taking a blend of herbs now to

help loosen and get things flowing better.

Sherry

What do I do now?

>

>

> >

> > Hi everyone,

> > Did I miss something? I haven't gotten any email from here all day.

> > If things are still going ok, would like to know what do I do first.

> > (My colema board comes tomarrow or the next day). What do I put in

> > the water?

> > Sherry

> >

> >

> > Subscription email: bowel cleanse-subscribeegroups

> >

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 09/14/2000 3:11:32 PM Central Daylight Time,

abrs@... writes:

<< Psyllium is bulking, bentonite is constipating. Hopefully the herbs that

you are taking is acting as a laxative. So you adjust as needed. On a cleanse

you strive for 3-5 BM a day. I hope you are juicing, or on some kind of

cleansing diet, i.e. (no meat, sweeteners, lots of raw, considering a total

fast). I take about 2TBLS bentonite in with the psyllium and water ( drink

quickly, as it thickens rapidly) 3 times a day and about 5 sets of my herbs.

This would depend on what herbs you are taking and how many BM's you are

having. You said you were taking the herbs now. Has your BM's increased?

Start taking the shakes 2-3 times each day while cleansing.

I think it is funny that they advertise psyllium as a " colon cleanse " .

>>

**********************

I still think it is. We use the Sonnes liquid bentonite which has a

different

effect than the powder. I finally got my 31yr old daughter to do something

about colon health. All she took was the Sonnes and psyillium and

had tremendous results in a short while. She now attempts to tell

her friends (she and they are all nurses) that are having bowel problems,

but alas, no one will listen just like she wouldn't listen to me for so long.

EJ

[Guest guest]

Psyllium is bulking, bentonite is constipating. Hopefully the herbs that you are taking is acting as a laxative. So you adjust as needed. On a cleanse you strive for 3-5 BM a day. I hope you are juicing, or on some kind of cleansing diet, i.e. (no meat, sweeteners, lots of raw, considering a total fast). I take about 2TBLS bentonite in with the psyllium and water ( drink quickly, as it thickens rapidly) 3 times a day and about 5 sets of my herbs. This would depend on what herbs you are taking and how many BM's you are having. You said you were taking the herbs now. Has your BM's increased? Start taking the shakes 2-3 times each day while cleansing.

I think it is funny that they advertise psyllium as a "colon cleanse".

What do I do now?

Hi everyone, Did I miss something? I haven't gotten any email from here all day.If things are still going ok, would like to know what do I do first. (My colema board comes tomarrow or the next day). What do I put in the water? SherrySubscription email: bowel cleanse-subscribeegroups

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Dale,

Thanks again for your help. I went to the store today and bought "Colon Cleanse" from Health Plus Inc. It is a 100% pure psyllium husk. I thought we should start by taking that (what do you think?). Also, I bought Sonne's #7. It was the only Bentonite product I could find. My question with that is, it says you can take it internally. Do we just take it internally, or do we add it to the water? If so, how much? (Sorry so full of questions).

Sherry

What do I do now?

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[Guest guest]

You steep the coffee as you would any other time and just add it to your mix. Usually it's added at full strength and done as an enema rather than through the colema bucket.

What my colonist does is, he has a tee fitting that he can shut off the water's flow and open for another line. To that line he can, from an other flask that has an outlet connection, add the mixture. I hold it for about five to ten minutes, if possible, and then the regular water is started and the valve is opened to allow for any expulsion that may need to happen.

DaleDa_@...

What do I do now?

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[Guest guest]

How much coffee do you put in the water?

What do I do now?

Hi everyone, Did I miss something? I haven't gotten any email from here all day.If things are still going ok, would like to know what do I do first. (My colema board comes tomarrow or the next day). What do I put in the water? SherrySubscription email: bowel cleanse-subscribeegroups

[Guest guest]

You can get a video tape about the set up and use of a

colema board from Colema Boards of California. 800-745-2446.

It costs $5. I don't remember if there is shipping & handling

in addition. The video goes over how to set up the board in

detail, and some suggetions for use.

Message: 2

Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 23:44:04 -0000

From: sdk5@...

Subject: What do I do now?

Hi everyone,

Did I miss something? I haven't gotten any email from here all day.

If things are still going ok, would like to know what do I do first.

(My colema board comes tomarrow or the next day). What do I put in

the water?

Sherry

[Guest guest]

Go to another LLMD. Minimum for doxy is 4 wks at 100mg, 4 tabs daily. That

means 400 mg daily.

_____

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf

Of maremarz@...

Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 2:00 PM

lyme-AidGroups

Subject: [ ] what do I do now?

I supposedly had a bullseye on July 16

was treated with Doxy 100 mg BID

Then had blood work on July 18

it came back negative

Had foot pain, sore toes, achey feet, headaches, 2 colds, stiff neck,

tingling toes and fingers, hot and cold feelings in toes and fingers,

regular dr did 2nd blood work that had reactive on Band 41

Went to LLMD on Sept 2 she did more blood work that was sent to MDL

She called today and said I am fine - everything is negative and no other

tick borne diseases - she is an LLMD with a big reputation who could gain a

ton

of $ from me -

what do I do now? She said I dont have it - I do have another appt with

another LLMD on 10/2 - should I go to him and get more blood work done?

MP

(PS - I just got 4 books out of library today)

-Pat Marzoli

[Guest guest]

Hi Elaina - thanks so much - you are very articulate and brave - I have 2

daughters close to your age - 12 & 14 - I am proud of you for managing your

illness and keeping yourself aware of all that is out there to make yourself

feel better.

I guess it is another trip to the LLMD for me - to see how he will sort thru

2 differing opinions.

You love horses? Are you in NH?

MP (http://www.monogramsmp.com/)

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I just today got my igx results back. It has been harsd waiting for soo long,

but we did. I've missed so much school, im in 8th grade 13 years old. the igx

only positive for 2 bands, 41 and 30 something. the Dr, LLMD, wishes to treat

but NOT diagnose me for Lyme because it is NOT positive enough. The PCP wants a

diagnosis befoere she works with us, and the school's being difficult too! I

might be treated with Biaxin, if thats how you spell it, and I am taking a whole

bunch of herbs, diets, and exercise programs.... i completely understand what

you are going through. i did NOT get the bullseye, just all of these crumby

symptoms. and I have seen over 8 DR.s and over 7 therapists of different sorts.

Its been a year, and i am only a teen, ready to give up but fighting to hold it

together! All the tests i can't even count but i understand, and i wished for 8

months that someone would contact me that understood, so i thought you'd like to

hear, even though i

didn't answer and ?s!

 

god bless!

<3 Elaina

<3Elaina

From: maremarz@... <maremarz@...>

Subject: [ ] what do I do now?

lyme-AidGroups

Date: Monday, September 15, 2008, 2:59 PM

I supposedly had a bullseye on July 16

was treated with Doxy 100 mg BID

Then had blood work on July 18

it came back negative

Had foot pain, sore toes, achey feet, headaches, 2 colds, stiff neck,

tingling toes and fingers, hot and cold feelings in toes and fingers,

regular dr did 2nd blood work that had reactive on Band 41

Went to LLMD on Sept 2 she did more blood work that was sent to MDL

She called today and said I am fine - everything is negative and no other

tick borne diseases - she is an LLMD with a big reputation who could gain a ton

of $ from me -

what do I do now? She said I dont have it - I do have another appt with

another LLMD on 10/2 - should I go to him and get more blood work done?

MP

(PS - I just got 4 books out of library today)

-Pat Marzoli

[Guest guest]

Yes... go to another LLMD... You do have Lyme... If you need to know of a really

good one email me at supernurse.mary@...

and I will help you...

, RN, BSN, LLRN

[ ] what do I do now?

I supposedly had a bullseye on July 16

was treated with Doxy 100 mg BID

Then had blood work on July 18

it came back negative

Had foot pain, sore toes, achey feet, headaches, 2 colds, stiff neck,

tingling toes and fingers, hot and cold feelings in toes and fingers,

regular dr did 2nd blood work that had reactive on Band 41

Went to LLMD on Sept 2 she did more blood work that was sent to MDL

She called today and said I am fine - everything is negative and no other

tick borne diseases - she is an LLMD with a big reputation who could gain a

ton

of $ from me -

what do I do now? She said I dont have it - I do have another appt with

another LLMD on 10/2 - should I go to him and get more blood work done?

MP

(PS - I just got 4 books out of library today)

-Pat Marzoli

[Guest guest]

I just typoed a really long message. it took me an hour! i am really upset now

because sadly it just deleted on me! I hate computers! i really do! So i answer

the ?s quick amd maybe we could phone tlk to explain some of it!

 

i LOVE horses and hippotherapy ti get me moving and to give me lots of hope!

 

i am going to be a hippotherapist when im older..

 

 

and i doooo live in NH in between Laconia and Tilton in a little town called

Belmont..... Bow is 45 mintues south of us, that where the barn is!!

 

TTYL

:-( I still hate computers!

Elaina 

[Guest guest]

okay, heres the message i typed.... it is really long but I revived it!!!

 

Message:

I absolutely positively LOVE horses. I loved them since i was a baby, my first

word was horse! i tried not to get too much into that dream since it was

expensive and dangerous. When I became ill for a long time, i think about 3 or 4

months, I kept being told to excercise and get moving. Horses completely left my

mind when I was consumed in October 07 with a massive 24/7 headache, foloweing

the flu like virus. i was playing soccer an was very content. Secretary of the

student counsil, etc. etc.!

 

Then I had the 'virus' and 'sinus infection', treated with antibiotics, then

sick with the CONSTANT head pain! it killed me basically. I was disconnected

from all activities, lost EVEY friend i had in school, and got really frustrated

when all my traditional PCP would do was put me on antidepressants. We went to

see a nuerologist, and changed PCP's....

 

It didn't help. Here I am a year later, with the same headache which i have

NEVER had even 1 minute of relief from, and i have seen about 9 Dr.s and over 6

therapists. So many tests became my after school activities. I finally managed

1/2 days of school, and was swallowed in non-stop work. We thought once school

came out in summer, that maybe i'd feel more relaxed and better, well I got

worse. i tried to participate in Family activities like soulfest at Gunstock,NH

and going to RYe beach. i only felt worse and worse. I got more sound sensitive,

and way more tired. bad headache, joint pains, muslce aches, minoir light

sensitivity, etc. etc., you know the list! It wasn't until July, late in the

month, when my mom and all her resaerch pointed to Lymes disease. We had never

heard of it. Ic an still rememebr the day when i said what is Lyme anyway? As

she rambled off the symptoms and such. She explained it to her best and it was

so bazaar! How can a tick

kill you? I asked in disbelief!!

 

Now I look back and think of how so many others feel that way. i WILL make a

difference in the communities of america. I am going to let them know, teach

them to the best i can, as soon as I am well!

 

anyway, 5 months into the illness, my new PCP gave us a brochure on

Hippotherapy, wh8ich she got from another patient. We had no clue what it was,

but the Dr said something about horses. my child hood passion came racing back

into my mind and I researched it right when i got home. There was a place 45

mintues south of us in NH That did this hippotherapy with really ill

chldren..... was it a possibility we questioned...

 

We left messages and talked to the manager Toby Freeman. She couldn't

necessarily help with the headaches but she may get me moving, and fulfill the

reality that there was still something to live for. When your sick like me an so

many others, you start to get depressed and upset and all, and she was sure that

this would keep me realistic and hopeful if anything. We couldn't afford the

price though and told her we may have to go somewhere else.

" no, no " she said. " i'll look into it! "

 

a week later while i was at school for the morning, she called back and told us

we could do 25$ 30 mintue session every other saturday. That would work!! i had

pestered my mom about it for weeks and told her I HAD to do it. i told her it

was my purpose, what i was ill for. She was so pleased to surprise me with that

much that night when we were out to eat!!

 

I have been going there since february, now it's every Saturday, and it is not a

therapy session although we say so. it is an independent lesson in which i have

progressed imensly!!

 

I love it, i think about it when im sad, and i go when im down..... I can

completely be taken away with the horses, and i don't feel as much pain for the

first time in 365 days!!

 

The manager/speech pathologist (not owner of the barn) actually let me stay at

her house this summer so i could go 2 days in a row since transpotation is

limited! it was great, and now i volunteer when im there too, so it's an all day

thing now! i have seen so many kids improve drastically! its great!

 

so as you have read for the past 15 mintues! lol! I DO love horses, and i do

live in NH

<3Elaina

From: Elaina <nhgirlloveshorses@...>

Subject: Re: [ ] what do I do now?

Date: Wednesday, September 17, 2008, 4:24 PM

I just typoed a really long message. it took me an hour! i am really upset now

because sadly it just deleted on me! I hate computers! i really do! So i answer

the ?s quick amd maybe we could phone tlk to explain some of it!

 

i LOVE horses and hippotherapy ti get me moving and to give me lots of hope!

 

i am going to be a hippotherapist when im older..

 

 

and i doooo live in NH in between Laconia and Tilton in a little town called

Belmont..... Bow is 45 mintues south of us, that where the barn is!!

 

TTYL

:-( I still hate computers!

Elaina 

[Guest guest]

What is hippotherapy? It sounds great. Thanks, Penni

-------------- Original message --------------

From: Elaina <nhgirlloveshorses@...>

I just typoed a really long message. it took me an hour! i am really upset now

because sadly it just deleted on me! I hate computers! i really do! So i answer

the ?s quick amd maybe we could phone tlk to explain some of it!

i LOVE horses and hippotherapy ti get me moving and to give me lots of hope!

i am going to be a hippotherapist when im older..

and i doooo live in NH in between Laconia and Tilton in a little town called

Belmont..... Bow is 45 mintues south of us, that where the barn is!!

TTYL

:-( I still hate computers!

Elaina

[Guest guest]

As an avid horse lover I enjoyed yoru story, riding was my saving grace

as well when I was sick. Even though I could not do much and certainly

lost the ability to train, the horses needed me! Check out my website.

www.morningsunranch.com

Elaina wrote:

>

> okay, heres the message i typed.... it is really long but I revived it!!!

>

> Message:

> I absolutely positively LOVE horses. I loved them since i was a baby,

> my first word was horse! i tried not to get too much into that dream

> since it was expensive and dangerous. When I became ill for a long

> time, i think about 3 or 4 months, I kept being told to excercise and

> get moving. Horses completely left my mind when I was consumed in

> October 07 with a massive 24/7 head

>

[Guest guest]

Hippotherapy manipulates the motion of the horses rythm so that a child with a

disability can get improvement from it. it is used mostly for other more

debilitating illnesses like autism and cyctic fibrosis. The thing about it is,

it is very different than therapuetic riding. Some claim they do hippotherapy,

when all they do is therapeutic riding which is more recreational then medical

even though it has medical connections. Hippo has medical proffesionals that

help sidewalk and lead the child. Ones that mix games and toys into the therapy.

OT, ST, and PT are all used in hippo, and sometimes, rarely, psychiatric therapy

as well. i can't explain the differences as well as Horse talks site can! That

is the name of the place I go but you can use it strictly for the info on there,

that would be nice.

 

www.nhhorsetalk.com

 

I go to hippo every week, once, and I have seen such an imprvement. I will be a

hippotherapist when i am older. Until them I donate my every strand of energy to

volunteering at their great facilities! They actually board and rent at somebody

elses place, but it's beautiful!

hopefully I told you something! CHeck out the site. You can see some of the

horses too, that are HIGHLY trained so that they are unspookable and very

pleasurable. They care about the kids and have great people around them to. each

horse has a different 'motion' that can help children in different ways, which

is why they are assigned different to patients. it is all about what will help

the child the most, and once, a child spoke their first words at the hippo! it

was cool!

 

TTYL, hope I helped! Email with any questions

horsegirl@...

<3 Elaina

 

From: penni49@... <penni49@...>

Subject: Re: [ ] what do I do now?

Date: Wednesday, September 17, 2008, 10:15 PM

What is hippotherapy? It sounds great. Thanks, Penni

[Guest guest]

awesome! i love reaching out to other horse people. Especailly since i never got

on a horse much befor ehippotherapy. My grandpa owns a ranch in GA, and I visit

friends and local palces here in NH to volunteer. I have gotten so good in just

7 months. I was in a horse show! i love my instructor too, she may bring me to

the beach!

 

TTYL, and i will check out the site!

 

<3Elaina

From: Kindscher <morningsunranch@...>

Subject: Re: [ ] what do I do now?

Date: Thursday, September 18, 2008, 5:21 PM

As an avid horse lover I enjoyed yoru story, riding was my saving grace

as well when I was sick. Even though I could not do much and certainly

lost the ability to train, the horses needed me! Check out my website.

www.morningsunranch .com

[Guest guest]

Hi Elaina,

That is great you are having such a good experience with your horse

adventures. I hope you are able to continue and that

your healing is expedited because of the experience.

Elaina wrote:

>

> awesome! i love reaching out to other horse people. Especailly since i

> never got on a horse much befor ehippotherapy. My grandpa owns a ranch

> in GA, and I visit friends and local palces here in NH to volunteer. I

> have gotten so good in just 7 months. I was in a horse show! i love my

> instructor too, she may bring me to the beach!

>

> TTYL, and i will check out the site!

>

> <3Elaina

>