Guest guest Posted September 6, 2008 Report Share Posted September 6, 2008 She has been on Diflucan for 2 month aprox. I am not sure if the yeast is gone, because she got a taste of some pasta today and went really wild. Doesn't this sound like yeast? She has biotin in the Super Nu Thera she is taking. Biotin is for yeast too, right? We don't want to give her more for yeast though, correct? Do you do a stool test for yeast? I didn't have a prior test done, since I was told that they aren't accurate. On Sep 6, 2008, at 10:23 PM, Largey wrote: > That could be the case. Also if your giving GSE and her yeast is > real low from treatment or gone the GSE can cause bacteria problems > My sons behaviors go crazy when he has bacteria. Worse than yeast > or yeast die off. I would try taking three lac and gse out for a > while. > Does she tolerate OOO and is she on biotin? If you had her on a > bunch of > anti yeast things it could be that yeast is down. Have you had her > yeast tested recently > to compare to prior going on diflucan? How long has she been on it? > > > > 38 and Mom to three > Tasha 23..new Mommy ( means I am a Grammy ) > Casey-Mae 13..sweet as pie > Elijah 2.. ASD and beautiful > > [ ] Dana/Anyone... > > I was thinking that the violent behavour from the Threelac and the > GSE... could be a die-off reaction, but then why doesn't she get > violent on the Diflucan. There is die-off with THAT too, right? So my > guess is that she reacts to the phenols with the GSE and the Strain in > the Threelac. Does anyone agree with that, or am I way off? > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2008 Report Share Posted September 6, 2008 She had a blood test for candida and it came back " o " ... Is the stood test different? It's funny you mentioned bacteria. Sometimes I wonder if bacteria isn't the bigger problem. We did a fructose test once and the GI doctor said he never saw fructose run through anyone so quickly. After she drank the fructose drink, she was running out into the street. She was out of control. He thought it may be bacteria. He had her on meds, but then he started treating the yeast. So confusing. My husband has bad yeast, and I have a bacteria problem, so perhaps she has yeast/bacteria problem. I just don't know. On Sep 6, 2008, at 10:23 PM, Largey wrote: > That could be the case. Also if your giving GSE and her yeast is > real low from treatment or gone the GSE can cause bacteria problems > My sons behaviors go crazy when he has bacteria. Worse than yeast > or yeast die off. I would try taking three lac and gse out for a > while. > Does she tolerate OOO and is she on biotin? If you had her on a > bunch of > anti yeast things it could be that yeast is down. Have you had her > yeast tested recently > to compare to prior going on diflucan? How long has she been on it? > > > > 38 and Mom to three > Tasha 23..new Mommy ( means I am a Grammy ) > Casey-Mae 13..sweet as pie > Elijah 2.. ASD and beautiful > > [ ] Dana/Anyone... > > I was thinking that the violent behavour from the Threelac and the > GSE... could be a die-off reaction, but then why doesn't she get > violent on the Diflucan. There is die-off with THAT too, right? So my > guess is that she reacts to the phenols with the GSE and the Strain in > the Threelac. Does anyone agree with that, or am I way off? > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2008 Report Share Posted September 6, 2008 but if her yeast is real low... wouldn't the diflucan start bacteria troubles too? i don't see the violent behavour when just on the diflucan, so I am guessing that she can't handle the GSE or the Threelac. I don't know if I am right or not. On Sep 6, 2008, at 10:23 PM, Largey wrote: > That could be the case. Also if your giving GSE and her yeast is > real low from treatment or gone the GSE can cause bacteria problems > My sons behaviors go crazy when he has bacteria. Worse than yeast > or yeast die off. I would try taking three lac and gse out for a > while. > Does she tolerate OOO and is she on biotin? If you had her on a > bunch of > anti yeast things it could be that yeast is down. Have you had her > yeast tested recently > to compare to prior going on diflucan? How long has she been on it? > > > > 38 and Mom to three > Tasha 23..new Mommy ( means I am a Grammy ) > Casey-Mae 13..sweet as pie > Elijah 2.. ASD and beautiful > > [ ] Dana/Anyone... > > I was thinking that the violent behavour from the Threelac and the > GSE... could be a die-off reaction, but then why doesn't she get > violent on the Diflucan. There is die-off with THAT too, right? So my > guess is that she reacts to the phenols with the GSE and the Strain in > the Threelac. Does anyone agree with that, or am I way off? > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2008 Report Share Posted September 6, 2008 Yes, she does good on a wheat/diary free diet. We stick pretty close to it. Why do these kids react to pasta. Is the pasta feeding the yeast, or is the protien/gluten making toxic to their brain? On Sep 6, 2008, at 10:35 PM, Tamara Kuhn wrote: > Pasta is wheat. Have to tried the dairy/wheat free diet on her yet? > Enzymes? > > Tammy > > Re: [ ] Dana/Anyone... > > She has been on Diflucan for 2 month aprox. > I am not sure if the yeast is gone, because she got a taste of some > pasta today and went really wild. Doesn't this sound like yeast? > She has biotin in the Super Nu Thera she is taking. Biotin is for > yeast too, right? We don't want to give her more for yeast though, > correct? Do you do a stool test for yeast? I didn't have a prior test > done, since I was told that they aren't accurate. > On Sep 6, 2008, at 10:23 PM, Largey wrote: > > > That could be the case. Also if your giving GSE and her yeast is > > real low from treatment or gone the GSE can cause bacteria problems > > My sons behaviors go crazy when he has bacteria. Worse than yeast > > or yeast die off. I would try taking three lac and gse out for a > > while. > > Does she tolerate OOO and is she on biotin? If you had her on a > > bunch of > > anti yeast things it could be that yeast is down. Have you had her > > yeast tested recently > > to compare to prior going on diflucan? How long has she been on it? > > > > > > > > 38 and Mom to three > > Tasha 23..new Mommy ( means I am a Grammy ) > > Casey-Mae 13..sweet as pie > > Elijah 2.. ASD and beautiful > > > > [ ] Dana/Anyone... > > > > I was thinking that the violent behavour from the Threelac and the > > GSE... could be a die-off reaction, but then why doesn't she get > > violent on the Diflucan. There is die-off with THAT too, right? > So my > > guess is that she reacts to the phenols with the GSE and the > Strain in > > the Threelac. Does anyone agree with that, or am I way off? > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2008 Report Share Posted September 6, 2008 Pasta is wheat. Have to tried the dairy/wheat free diet on her yet? Enzymes? Tammy Re: [ ] Dana/Anyone... She has been on Diflucan for 2 month aprox. I am not sure if the yeast is gone, because she got a taste of some pasta today and went really wild. Doesn't this sound like yeast? She has biotin in the Super Nu Thera she is taking. Biotin is for yeast too, right? We don't want to give her more for yeast though, correct? Do you do a stool test for yeast? I didn't have a prior test done, since I was told that they aren't accurate. On Sep 6, 2008, at 10:23 PM, Largey wrote: > That could be the case. Also if your giving GSE and her yeast is > real low from treatment or gone the GSE can cause bacteria problems > My sons behaviors go crazy when he has bacteria. Worse than yeast > or yeast die off. I would try taking three lac and gse out for a > while. > Does she tolerate OOO and is she on biotin? If you had her on a > bunch of > anti yeast things it could be that yeast is down. Have you had her > yeast tested recently > to compare to prior going on diflucan? How long has she been on it? > > > > 38 and Mom to three > Tasha 23..new Mommy ( means I am a Grammy ) > Casey-Mae 13..sweet as pie > Elijah 2.. ASD and beautiful > > [ ] Dana/Anyone... > > I was thinking that the violent behavour from the Threelac and the > GSE... could be a die-off reaction, but then why doesn't she get > violent on the Diflucan. There is die-off with THAT too, right? So my > guess is that she reacts to the phenols with the GSE and the Strain in > the Threelac. Does anyone agree with that, or am I way off? > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2008 Report Share Posted September 6, 2008 We have not tried enzymes, because I have heard that they would make her react even more to amines. What are your thoughts on that! On Sep 6, 2008, at 10:35 PM, Tamara Kuhn wrote: > Pasta is wheat. Have to tried the dairy/wheat free diet on her yet? > Enzymes? > > Tammy > > Re: [ ] Dana/Anyone... > > She has been on Diflucan for 2 month aprox. > I am not sure if the yeast is gone, because she got a taste of some > pasta today and went really wild. Doesn't this sound like yeast? > She has biotin in the Super Nu Thera she is taking. Biotin is for > yeast too, right? We don't want to give her more for yeast though, > correct? Do you do a stool test for yeast? I didn't have a prior test > done, since I was told that they aren't accurate. > On Sep 6, 2008, at 10:23 PM, Largey wrote: > > > That could be the case. Also if your giving GSE and her yeast is > > real low from treatment or gone the GSE can cause bacteria problems > > My sons behaviors go crazy when he has bacteria. Worse than yeast > > or yeast die off. I would try taking three lac and gse out for a > > while. > > Does she tolerate OOO and is she on biotin? If you had her on a > > bunch of > > anti yeast things it could be that yeast is down. Have you had her > > yeast tested recently > > to compare to prior going on diflucan? How long has she been on it? > > > > > > > > 38 and Mom to three > > Tasha 23..new Mommy ( means I am a Grammy ) > > Casey-Mae 13..sweet as pie > > Elijah 2.. ASD and beautiful > > > > [ ] Dana/Anyone... > > > > I was thinking that the violent behavour from the Threelac and the > > GSE... could be a die-off reaction, but then why doesn't she get > > violent on the Diflucan. There is die-off with THAT too, right? > So my > > guess is that she reacts to the phenols with the GSE and the > Strain in > > the Threelac. Does anyone agree with that, or am I way off? > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 I don't understand. The Diflucan eats up the yeast just like the GSE and the Threelac, right? then why would only the GSE and the Threelac cause bacteria problems, and not the Diflucan....if the yeast is low already. I am probably just " thick " and not getting this! On Sep 6, 2008, at 10:58 PM, Largey wrote: > No diflucan wont cause bacteria problems. I would for sure drop GSE > at least for a while. Yes the stool test is different. I would do > one of those > for her. That will tell you for sure whats going on. > > 38 and Mom to three > Tasha 23..new Mommy ( means I am a Grammy ) > Casey-Mae 13..sweet as pie > Elijah 2.. ASD and beautiful > > [ ] Dana/Anyone. .. > > > > I was thinking that the violent behavour from the Threelac and the > > GSE... could be a die-off reaction, but then why doesn't she get > > violent on the Diflucan. There is die-off with THAT too, right? > So my > > guess is that she reacts to the phenols with the GSE and the > Strain in > > the Threelac. Does anyone agree with that, or am I way off? > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 Are you going to be GF/CF for life, or will they be able to handle some of this stuff after chelation. It is really hard to keep every teeny bit of this stuff away from her. She is 9, and sneaks stuff any chance she gets. We never knew what foods were making her sick,...so we were on a dozen different diets trying to find out what was wrong with her and she has had it!!! On Sep 6, 2008, at 11:00 PM, Largey wrote: > I have not heard that. We have great success with enzymes. > I would also try the GF/CF diet. It was a miracle here. > But you really have to go 100% for benefits. > > 38 and Mom to three > Tasha 23..new Mommy ( means I am a Grammy ) > Casey-Mae 13..sweet as pie > Elijah 2.. ASD and beautiful > > [ ] Dana/Anyone. .. > > > > > > I was thinking that the violent behavour from the Threelac and the > > > GSE... could be a die-off reaction, but then why doesn't she get > > > violent on the Diflucan. There is die-off with THAT too, right? > > So my > > > guess is that she reacts to the phenols with the GSE and the > > Strain in > > > the Threelac. Does anyone agree with that, or am I way off? > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 Its the toxic chemicals in the wheat products and the dairy products..and many other foods... It is very important to eat organic foods.. No matter what you eat.. Make sure it is Organic.. Especially with severely immune compromised children such as ours.. Toxins destroy the immune system and the body breaks down gradually.. Toxins are hard to excrete from the body and get stuck inside the intestinal tract..causing difficulty for the body to absorb the nutrients from the food eaten...therefor causing GI probs... Detoxing will really help the GI probs in relation to the food allergies..etc. R > > > > > That could be the case. Also if your giving GSE and her yeast is > > > real low from treatment or gone the GSE can cause bacteria problems > > > My sons behaviors go crazy when he has bacteria. Worse than yeast > > > or yeast die off. I would try taking three lac and gse out for a > > > while. > > > Does she tolerate OOO and is she on biotin? If you had her on a > > > bunch of > > > anti yeast things it could be that yeast is down. Have you had her > > > yeast tested recently > > > to compare to prior going on diflucan? How long has she been on it? > > > > > > > > > > > > 38 and Mom to three > > > Tasha 23..new Mommy ( means I am a Grammy ) > > > Casey-Mae 13..sweet as pie > > > Elijah 2.. ASD and beautiful > > > > > > [ ] Dana/Anyone... > > > > > > I was thinking that the violent behavour from the Threelac and the > > > GSE... could be a die-off reaction, but then why doesn't she get > > > violent on the Diflucan. There is die-off with THAT too, right? > > So my > > > guess is that she reacts to the phenols with the GSE and the > > Strain in > > > the Threelac. Does anyone agree with that, or am I way off? > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 There are good gluten-free pastas available. We like the rice pasta from Trader Joe's. LInda S S Re: Dana/Anyone... Posted by: " Tamara Kuhn " tkuhn1@... bailykuhn Sat Sep 6, 2008 8:35 pm (PDT) Pasta is wheat. Have to tried the dairy/wheat free diet on her yet? Enzymes? Tammy ------------------------------------------------------------ Educational Funding Financial aid not enough? Click here for information on funding your education. http://tagline.excite.com/fc/JkJQPTgMx8kM2YJk5GKnXG0tZb1okY1dXlpchp1D8jG68Dc8q8q\ rUM/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 > > I was thinking that the violent behavour from the Threelac and the > GSE... could be a die-off reaction, but then why doesn't she get > violent on the Diflucan. There is die-off with THAT too, right? So my > guess is that she reacts to the phenols with the GSE and the Strain in > the Threelac. Does anyone agree with that, or am I way off? This sounds reasonable. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 > > We have not tried enzymes, because I have heard that they would make > her react even more to amines. What are your thoughts on that! I never noticed an increase in amine reactions, in fact my son tolerated bananas with No-Fenol. For some kids, No-Fenol will help with amines, but for other kids it won't. But the amine reaction should not be any worse than it is now, altho it might present differently. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 > > Are you going to be GF/CF for life, or will they be able to handle > some of this stuff after chelation. My son tolerated no foods when I started biomedical. HNI enzymes allowed him to tolerate many foods. ALA chelation and several supplements allowed him to tolerate all foods. Today, he has no food restrictions whatsoever. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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