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I agree - skimmed this, does look interesting - ummm, not up to

focused reading this minute ;) ... I do think Lipid Metabolism is

huge. Gargantuan - and pretty much connected to Everything. For me,

it is the bigger connection to mercury toxicity, as mercury targets

the fatty acids, chews the heck out of em. (pretty sure I remember

that idea correctly, ug) It feels like it does not matter what I look

into, whether it is a tangent on diseases, toxicities, things like

lectins or phytic acid, misc pond scums, or whatever. I will end up

back at fatty acid metabolism, as a major connection...I have spent a

large amount of time, trying to " absorb " the lipid metabolism ideas,

as I believe they are huge, maybe the most important, piece of our

myriad puzzle, ummmm, to " whip into shape " of a sorts...including the

" dumping " factor - a couple of us still seem to be dealing with this

issue too often, at our house, urg - an idea which I believe I did

catch in this post, while skimming it...wishing you the best answers,

elizabeth

>

> I found this fascinating. Anyone care to comment?

>

>

> Biotoxins as Neurotoxins

> The presentation of biotoxin exposure often parallels neurological and

> psychological impairment due to the interrelationship between the

ENS (Enteral

> Nervous System) and the CNS. The biliary tree, gall bladder, and

bile formation

> within the liver serve in the vital processes of detoxication

(disposal of

> waste products bilirubin, heavy metals, biotoxins, xenobiotics), lipid

> metabolism, transport and digestion (bile acids). Abnormalities of

the hepatobiliary

> system may involve biliary stasis whereby infectious material or

biotoxins

> reside within the liver, biliary tree and gall bladder, as a

viscous suspension

> in biliary sludge.

> Biotoxins as bacteria, viruses, parasites, spirochetes,

dinoflagelletes, and

> fungus may be within biliary sludge often creating neurotoxins

impacting the

> CNS via the ENS, or the Second Brain (gut). The occurrence of

biliary sludge

> may be due to prolonged fasting, low fat intake, high carbohydrate

diets or

> exposure to pathogens. Restriction of dietary fat may impair

biliary flow

> which would be contraindicated in attempting to clear toxicity as

bile is

> paramount to cleansing the body and getting biotoxins and heavy

metals excreted into

> the fecal matter.

> Neurotoxins are minute compounds between 200-1000 KD (kilodaltons)

that are

> comprised of oxygen, nitrogen and sulfate atoms arranged in such a

way as to

> make the outside of the molecule fat loving and water hating. As

such, once it

> enters the body, it tends to bind to structures that are rich in

fat such as

> most of our cells, especially the liver, kidney, and brain.

Neurotoxins are

> capable of dissolving in fatty tissue and moving through it,

crossing cell

> membranes (transporting against a gradient, particularly with

potassium)

> disrupting the electrical balance of the cell itself.

> As fat soluble neurotoxins move through the cells of the body from

the GI

> tract to sinus to lung to eye to muscle, to joint to nerve, whereby

they

> eventually enter the liver and the bile. Once neurotoxins bind with

bile they have

> access to the liver, the body is poisoned over and over again as the

bile is

> re-circulated (first released into the intestine to digest fats, and

then

> reabsorbed).

> Neurotoxins cause damage by disrupting sodium and calcium channel

receptors,

> attacking enzyme reactions involved in glucose production thereby

disrupting

> energy metabolism in the cell, manufacturing renegade fatty acids as

> saturated very long chain, odd chain and branched chain fatty acids

impairing

> membrane function, stimulating enzymes (PLA2) which uncouple

essential fatty acids

> from the cell membrane and impairing the function of the nuclear

receptor PPAR

> gamma which partially controls transcription (the conversion of

instructions

> held in our DNA to RNA which then leads to translation or protein

production

> in the cell).

> Heavy Metals reside in Fatty Tissue with Biotoxins

> Heavy metals are also lipid soluble and often compound the removal of

> biotoxins (Aschner et al 1990, 1998; Dutzak 1991). As has been

observed by many

> clinicians, often as the patients' heavy metal toxicity is addressed

they are

> faced with the additional complication of the presence of biotoxins.

Biotoxins

> and heavy metal exposure co-exist within the cell membrane and fatty

tissue

> requiring consideration for both types of toxicity in regard to

patient

> intervention.

> By stabilizing glutathione we in turn impact metallothionein markers

> (Nordberb and Nordberb 2000, Ebadi et al 1995, Sato et al 1995,

Kerper et al 1996,

> to et al 1998), glycoaminoglycans or GAGS (Klein 1992),

methylation,

> sulfation, hepatic and renal function as we introduce treatment

protocols for

> detoxication with gentle, natural modalities that unload cellular

toxicity

> safely. The herbal total Detox Tonic js a remarkably useful method

to unload the

> body burden of heavy metals and neurotoxins without side effects.

> Renegade fatty acids as Neurotoxin Markers

> Renegade fats as very long chain fats (VLCFAs) that are over

expressed,

> disrupt the membrane structure. There is a beautiful geometry to the

membrane

> that is highly sensitive to the size of the lipid chains. The

overall width of

> the fatty acid portion of the membrane is ~3 ½ nm which must be

maintained for

> stability. Saturated or monounsaturated fatty acids with a length of

16 or 18

> carbons and polyunsaturated fatty acids of 18 to 22 carbons are

preferred to

> permit the structure to maintain optimal horizontal fluidity. VLCSF

As that

> range from 20 to 26 carbons force the parallel dimensions

vertically. There

> simply is not enough room. The distortion weakens the phosphate

bonds that

> derive their strong attraction only as long as the phospholipids are

parallel to

> each other on both sides of the membrane. The cell weakness is then

> expressed in leaky attraction to ion channels and receptors which

marginalize cell

> cytosol fluids and electrolytes with the only option as early cell

death.

> The Brain is Comprised of 60% Fat

> To view the brain beyond its architecture as a biological

orchestration of

> the physical and chemical constituents necessary for performance, we

cannot

> begin to conceptualize without considering the importance of fatty

acids as the

> human brain is 60% lipid. Dendrites and synapses are up to 80% in lipid

> content. Although Arachidonic Acid (AA) has been given a negative

association, it

> is the most prominent essential fatty acid in the red cell and

comprises 12%

> of the total brain and 15.5% of the body lipid content.

> If AA is depleted by overdosing with marine or flax oil establishing

the

> balance of the EFAs is profoundly impaired. Often both prostaglandin

one and two

> series relating to omega six metabolism are compromised when flax

and marine

> oils are overdosed or lipid intake is insufficient. When AA, the lead

> eicosanoid of the body, is suppressed due to excess intake of omega

3, toxicity or

> disease the control circuitry of the body is impaired as is clearly

viewed in

> the patient's presentation. Arachidonic acid is preferentially

wasted in

> states of heavy metal toxicity (Tiin and Lin, 1998) and has been

observed to be

> sharply suppressed in RBC lipid analysis in states of heavy metal

toxicity

> (Kane, clinical observation 1997-2002).

> With thanks to , M.D., Kane, Ph.D., Neal

Speight, M.D.

> (for full article see

> http://www.mercola.com/2003/aug/9/detoxification_biotoxins.htm)

>

>

> epiousian = the expression of agape

>

> quite a bit more than enough

>

>

> **************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your

destination.

> Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out

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So is this saying that if you take too much flax oil it hurts things? I have

always read that flax oil is helpful to the liver. This is something I may

have to read a few times to fully process.

My liver problem (I believe is related to my son's ASD) is baffeling doctors,

but they feel that something is going on in the bile ducts. Of course that is

the best guess they have come up and recommend I go to the MAYO clinic for

exploratory surgery to " see if they can find anything that is causing the

enzymes to be elevated so high " I think when we figure out that OR the ASD

answer the other will make sense too.

> From: sunrose101@... <sunrose101@...>

> Subject: [ ] speaking of oil/fats

>

> Date: Thursday, October 16, 2008, 11:55 AM

> I found this fascinating. Anyone care to comment?

>

>

> Biotoxins as Neurotoxins

> The presentation of biotoxin exposure often parallels

> neurological and

> psychological impairment due to the interrelationship

> between the ENS (Enteral

> Nervous System) and the CNS. The biliary tree, gall

> bladder, and bile formation

> within the liver serve in the vital processes of

> detoxication (disposal of

> waste products bilirubin, heavy metals, biotoxins,

> xenobiotics), lipid

> metabolism, transport and digestion (bile acids).

> Abnormalities of the hepatobiliary

> system may involve biliary stasis whereby infectious

> material or biotoxins

> reside within the liver, biliary tree and gall bladder, as

> a viscous suspension

> in biliary sludge.

> Biotoxins as bacteria, viruses, parasites, spirochetes,

> dinoflagelletes, and

> fungus may be within biliary sludge often creating

> neurotoxins impacting the

> CNS via the ENS, or the Second Brain (gut). The occurrence

> of biliary sludge

> may be due to prolonged fasting, low fat intake, high

> carbohydrate diets or

> exposure to pathogens. Restriction of dietary fat may

> impair biliary flow

> which would be contraindicated in attempting to clear

> toxicity as bile is

> paramount to cleansing the body and getting biotoxins and

> heavy metals excreted into

> the fecal matter.

> Neurotoxins are minute compounds between 200-1000 KD

> (kilodaltons) that are

> comprised of oxygen, nitrogen and sulfate atoms arranged in

> such a way as to

> make the outside of the molecule fat loving and water

> hating. As such, once it

> enters the body, it tends to bind to structures that are

> rich in fat such as

> most of our cells, especially the liver, kidney, and

> brain. Neurotoxins are

> capable of dissolving in fatty tissue and moving through

> it, crossing cell

> membranes (transporting against a gradient, particularly

> with potassium)

> disrupting the electrical balance of the cell itself.

> As fat soluble neurotoxins move through the cells of the

> body from the GI

> tract to sinus to lung to eye to muscle, to joint to nerve,

> whereby they

> eventually enter the liver and the bile. Once neurotoxins

> bind with bile they have

> access to the liver, the body is poisoned over and over

> again as the bile is

> re-circulated (first released into the intestine to digest

> fats, and then

> reabsorbed).

> Neurotoxins cause damage by disrupting sodium and calcium

> channel receptors,

> attacking enzyme reactions involved in glucose production

> thereby disrupting

> energy metabolism in the cell, manufacturing renegade fatty

> acids as

> saturated very long chain, odd chain and branched chain

> fatty acids impairing

> membrane function, stimulating enzymes (PLA2) which

> uncouple essential fatty acids

> from the cell membrane and impairing the function of the

> nuclear receptor PPAR

> gamma which partially controls transcription (the

> conversion of instructions

> held in our DNA to RNA which then leads to translation or

> protein production

> in the cell).

> Heavy Metals reside in Fatty Tissue with Biotoxins

> Heavy metals are also lipid soluble and often compound the

> removal of

> biotoxins (Aschner et al 1990, 1998; Dutzak 1991). As has

> been observed by many

> clinicians, often as the patients' heavy metal toxicity

> is addressed they are

> faced with the additional complication of the presence of

> biotoxins. Biotoxins

> and heavy metal exposure co-exist within the cell membrane

> and fatty tissue

> requiring consideration for both types of toxicity in

> regard to patient

> intervention.

> By stabilizing glutathione we in turn impact

> metallothionein markers

> (Nordberb and Nordberb 2000, Ebadi et al 1995, Sato et al

> 1995, Kerper et al 1996,

> to et al 1998), glycoaminoglycans or GAGS (Klein

> 1992), methylation,

> sulfation, hepatic and renal function as we introduce

> treatment protocols for

> detoxication with gentle, natural modalities that unload

> cellular toxicity

> safely. The herbal total Detox Tonic js a remarkably useful

> method to unload the

> body burden of heavy metals and neurotoxins without side

> effects.

> Renegade fatty acids as Neurotoxin Markers

> Renegade fats as very long chain fats (VLCFAs) that are

> over expressed,

> disrupt the membrane structure. There is a beautiful

> geometry to the membrane

> that is highly sensitive to the size of the lipid chains.

> The overall width of

> the fatty acid portion of the membrane is ~3 ½ nm which

> must be maintained for

> stability. Saturated or monounsaturated fatty acids with a

> length of 16 or 18

> carbons and polyunsaturated fatty acids of 18 to 22

> carbons are preferred to

> permit the structure to maintain optimal horizontal

> fluidity. VLCSF As that

> range from 20 to 26 carbons force the parallel dimensions

> vertically. There

> simply is not enough room. The distortion weakens the

> phosphate bonds that

> derive their strong attraction only as long as the

> phospholipids are parallel to

> each other on both sides of the membrane. The cell

> weakness is then

> expressed in leaky attraction to ion channels and

> receptors which marginalize cell

> cytosol fluids and electrolytes with the only option as

> early cell death.

> The Brain is Comprised of 60% Fat

> To view the brain beyond its architecture as a biological

> orchestration of

> the physical and chemical constituents necessary for

> performance, we cannot

> begin to conceptualize without considering the importance

> of fatty acids as the

> human brain is 60% lipid. Dendrites and synapses are up to

> 80% in lipid

> content. Although Arachidonic Acid (AA) has been given a

> negative association, it

> is the most prominent essential fatty acid in the red cell

> and comprises 12%

> of the total brain and 15.5% of the body lipid content.

> If AA is depleted by overdosing with marine or flax oil

> establishing the

> balance of the EFAs is profoundly impaired. Often both

> prostaglandin one and two

> series relating to omega six metabolism are compromised

> when flax and marine

> oils are overdosed or lipid intake is insufficient. When

> AA, the lead

> eicosanoid of the body, is suppressed due to excess intake

> of omega 3, toxicity or

> disease the control circuitry of the body is impaired as

> is clearly viewed in

> the patient's presentation. Arachidonic acid is

> preferentially wasted in

> states of heavy metal toxicity (Tiin and Lin, 1998) and

> has been observed to be

> sharply suppressed in RBC lipid analysis in states of

> heavy metal toxicity

> (Kane, clinical observation 1997-2002).

> With thanks to , M.D., Kane, Ph.D.,

> Neal Speight, M.D.

> (for full article see

> http://www.mercola.com/2003/aug/9/detoxification_biotoxins.htm)

>

>

> epiousian = the expression of agape

>

> quite a bit more than enough

>

>

> **************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening

> at your destination.

> Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out

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Hi Jenifer, I haven't read this whole thread, but just to let you

know...

I had elevated liver enzymes for some time and one thing that was

really helpful was olive oil. One day I couldn't resist the craving

for it and over the next week or two I basically drank 1/4-1/2 cup

olive oil a few times a day. It did wonders for the way I felt and

the enzymes went down to almost normal range within a couple months.

I did do other things like milk thistle and magnesium and lots of

water, but I do think the olive oil was beneficial. I no longer

crave it (which is a good thing).

>

> > From: sunrose101@... <sunrose101@...>

> > Subject: [ ] speaking of oil/fats

> >

> > Date: Thursday, October 16, 2008, 11:55 AM

> > I found this fascinating. Anyone care to comment?

> >

> >

> > Biotoxins as Neurotoxins

> > The presentation of biotoxin exposure often parallels

> > neurological and

> > psychological impairment due to the interrelationship

> > between the ENS (Enteral

> > Nervous System) and the CNS. The biliary tree, gall

> > bladder, and bile formation

> > within the liver serve in the vital processes of

> > detoxication (disposal of

> > waste products bilirubin, heavy metals, biotoxins,

> > xenobiotics), lipid

> > metabolism, transport and digestion (bile acids).

> > Abnormalities of the hepatobiliary

> > system may involve biliary stasis whereby infectious

> > material or biotoxins

> > reside within the liver, biliary tree and gall bladder, as

> > a viscous suspension

> > in biliary sludge.

> > Biotoxins as bacteria, viruses, parasites, spirochetes,

> > dinoflagelletes, and

> > fungus may be within biliary sludge often creating

> > neurotoxins impacting the

> > CNS via the ENS, or the Second Brain (gut). The occurrence

> > of biliary sludge

> > may be due to prolonged fasting, low fat intake, high

> > carbohydrate diets or

> > exposure to pathogens. Restriction of dietary fat may

> > impair biliary flow

> > which would be contraindicated in attempting to clear

> > toxicity as bile is

> > paramount to cleansing the body and getting biotoxins and

> > heavy metals excreted into

> > the fecal matter.

> > Neurotoxins are minute compounds between 200-1000 KD

> > (kilodaltons) that are

> > comprised of oxygen, nitrogen and sulfate atoms arranged in

> > such a way as to

> > make the outside of the molecule fat loving and water

> > hating. As such, once it

> > enters the body, it tends to bind to structures that are

> > rich in fat such as

> > most of our cells, especially the liver, kidney, and

> > brain. Neurotoxins are

> > capable of dissolving in fatty tissue and moving through

> > it, crossing cell

> > membranes (transporting against a gradient, particularly

> > with potassium)

> > disrupting the electrical balance of the cell itself.

> > As fat soluble neurotoxins move through the cells of the

> > body from the GI

> > tract to sinus to lung to eye to muscle, to joint to nerve,

> > whereby they

> > eventually enter the liver and the bile. Once neurotoxins

> > bind with bile they have

> > access to the liver, the body is poisoned over and over

> > again as the bile is

> > re-circulated (first released into the intestine to digest

> > fats, and then

> > reabsorbed).

> > Neurotoxins cause damage by disrupting sodium and calcium

> > channel receptors,

> > attacking enzyme reactions involved in glucose production

> > thereby disrupting

> > energy metabolism in the cell, manufacturing renegade fatty

> > acids as

> > saturated very long chain, odd chain and branched chain

> > fatty acids impairing

> > membrane function, stimulating enzymes (PLA2) which

> > uncouple essential fatty acids

> > from the cell membrane and impairing the function of the

> > nuclear receptor PPAR

> > gamma which partially controls transcription (the

> > conversion of instructions

> > held in our DNA to RNA which then leads to translation or

> > protein production

> > in the cell).

> > Heavy Metals reside in Fatty Tissue with Biotoxins

> > Heavy metals are also lipid soluble and often compound the

> > removal of

> > biotoxins (Aschner et al 1990, 1998; Dutzak 1991). As has

> > been observed by many

> > clinicians, often as the patients' heavy metal toxicity

> > is addressed they are

> > faced with the additional complication of the presence of

> > biotoxins. Biotoxins

> > and heavy metal exposure co-exist within the cell membrane

> > and fatty tissue

> > requiring consideration for both types of toxicity in

> > regard to patient

> > intervention.

> > By stabilizing glutathione we in turn impact

> > metallothionein markers

> > (Nordberb and Nordberb 2000, Ebadi et al 1995, Sato et al

> > 1995, Kerper et al 1996,

> > to et al 1998), glycoaminoglycans or GAGS (Klein

> > 1992), methylation,

> > sulfation, hepatic and renal function as we introduce

> > treatment protocols for

> > detoxication with gentle, natural modalities that unload

> > cellular toxicity

> > safely. The herbal total Detox Tonic js a remarkably useful

> > method to unload the

> > body burden of heavy metals and neurotoxins without side

> > effects.

> > Renegade fatty acids as Neurotoxin Markers

> > Renegade fats as very long chain fats (VLCFAs) that are

> > over expressed,

> > disrupt the membrane structure. There is a beautiful

> > geometry to the membrane

> > that is highly sensitive to the size of the lipid chains.

> > The overall width of

> > the fatty acid portion of the membrane is ~3 ½ nm which

> > must be maintained for

> > stability. Saturated or monounsaturated fatty acids with a

> > length of 16 or 18

> > carbons and polyunsaturated fatty acids of 18 to 22

> > carbons are preferred to

> > permit the structure to maintain optimal horizontal

> > fluidity. VLCSF As that

> > range from 20 to 26 carbons force the parallel dimensions

> > vertically. There

> > simply is not enough room. The distortion weakens the

> > phosphate bonds that

> > derive their strong attraction only as long as the

> > phospholipids are parallel to

> > each other on both sides of the membrane. The cell

> > weakness is then

> > expressed in leaky attraction to ion channels and

> > receptors which marginalize cell

> > cytosol fluids and electrolytes with the only option as

> > early cell death.

> > The Brain is Comprised of 60% Fat

> > To view the brain beyond its architecture as a biological

> > orchestration of

> > the physical and chemical constituents necessary for

> > performance, we cannot

> > begin to conceptualize without considering the importance

> > of fatty acids as the

> > human brain is 60% lipid. Dendrites and synapses are up to

> > 80% in lipid

> > content. Although Arachidonic Acid (AA) has been given a

> > negative association, it

> > is the most prominent essential fatty acid in the red cell

> > and comprises 12%

> > of the total brain and 15.5% of the body lipid content.

> > If AA is depleted by overdosing with marine or flax oil

> > establishing the

> > balance of the EFAs is profoundly impaired. Often both

> > prostaglandin one and two

> > series relating to omega six metabolism are compromised

> > when flax and marine

> > oils are overdosed or lipid intake is insufficient. When

> > AA, the lead

> > eicosanoid of the body, is suppressed due to excess intake

> > of omega 3, toxicity or

> > disease the control circuitry of the body is impaired as

> > is clearly viewed in

> > the patient's presentation. Arachidonic acid is

> > preferentially wasted in

> > states of heavy metal toxicity (Tiin and Lin, 1998) and

> > has been observed to be

> > sharply suppressed in RBC lipid analysis in states of

> > heavy metal toxicity

> > (Kane, clinical observation 1997-2002).

> > With thanks to , M.D., Kane, Ph.D.,

> > Neal Speight, M.D.

> > (for full article see

> > http://www.mercola.com/2003/aug/9/detoxification_biotoxins.htm)

> >

> >

> > epiousian = the expression of agape

> >

> > quite a bit more than enough

> >

> >

> > **************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening

> > at your destination.

> > Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out

> > (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000002)

> >

> >

> >

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I know that everything I read that is good to take, has the basic anti-

oxidants shining through as a benefit one way or another. I seem to

add certain supplements as I have specific needs come up, but the basic

anti-oxidants are the foundation. Guess I will be taking A, E, C, B

Comp and Mineral regardless of everything else.

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Have you done a parasite cleanse? Liver flukes can physically block

the bile ducts.

Kes

-- In , Gray <jgray1025@...> wrote:

>

> So is this saying that if you take too much flax oil it hurts

things? I have always read that flax oil is helpful to the liver.

This is something I may have to read a few times to fully process.

>

> My liver problem (I believe is related to my son's ASD) is baffeling

doctors, but they feel that something is going on in the bile ducts.

Of course that is the best guess they have come up and recommend I go

to the MAYO clinic for exploratory surgery to " see if they can find

anything that is causing the enzymes to be elevated so high " I think

when we figure out that OR the ASD answer the other will make sense too.

>

>

>

>

> > From: sunrose101@... <sunrose101@...>

> > Subject: [ ] speaking of oil/fats

> >

> > Date: Thursday, October 16, 2008, 11:55 AM

> > I found this fascinating. Anyone care to comment?

> >

> >

> > Biotoxins as Neurotoxins

> > The presentation of biotoxin exposure often parallels

> > neurological and

> > psychological impairment due to the interrelationship

> > between the ENS (Enteral

> > Nervous System) and the CNS. The biliary tree, gall

> > bladder, and bile formation

> > within the liver serve in the vital processes of

> > detoxication (disposal of

> > waste products bilirubin, heavy metals, biotoxins,

> > xenobiotics), lipid

> > metabolism, transport and digestion (bile acids).

> > Abnormalities of the hepatobiliary

> > system may involve biliary stasis whereby infectious

> > material or biotoxins

> > reside within the liver, biliary tree and gall bladder, as

> > a viscous suspension

> > in biliary sludge.

> > Biotoxins as bacteria, viruses, parasites, spirochetes,

> > dinoflagelletes, and

> > fungus may be within biliary sludge often creating

> > neurotoxins impacting the

> > CNS via the ENS, or the Second Brain (gut). The occurrence

> > of biliary sludge

> > may be due to prolonged fasting, low fat intake, high

> > carbohydrate diets or

> > exposure to pathogens. Restriction of dietary fat may

> > impair biliary flow

> > which would be contraindicated in attempting to clear

> > toxicity as bile is

> > paramount to cleansing the body and getting biotoxins and

> > heavy metals excreted into

> > the fecal matter.

> > Neurotoxins are minute compounds between 200-1000 KD

> > (kilodaltons) that are

> > comprised of oxygen, nitrogen and sulfate atoms arranged in

> > such a way as to

> > make the outside of the molecule fat loving and water

> > hating. As such, once it

> > enters the body, it tends to bind to structures that are

> > rich in fat such as

> > most of our cells, especially the liver, kidney, and

> > brain. Neurotoxins are

> > capable of dissolving in fatty tissue and moving through

> > it, crossing cell

> > membranes (transporting against a gradient, particularly

> > with potassium)

> > disrupting the electrical balance of the cell itself.

> > As fat soluble neurotoxins move through the cells of the

> > body from the GI

> > tract to sinus to lung to eye to muscle, to joint to nerve,

> > whereby they

> > eventually enter the liver and the bile. Once neurotoxins

> > bind with bile they have

> > access to the liver, the body is poisoned over and over

> > again as the bile is

> > re-circulated (first released into the intestine to digest

> > fats, and then

> > reabsorbed).

> > Neurotoxins cause damage by disrupting sodium and calcium

> > channel receptors,

> > attacking enzyme reactions involved in glucose production

> > thereby disrupting

> > energy metabolism in the cell, manufacturing renegade fatty

> > acids as

> > saturated very long chain, odd chain and branched chain

> > fatty acids impairing

> > membrane function, stimulating enzymes (PLA2) which

> > uncouple essential fatty acids

> > from the cell membrane and impairing the function of the

> > nuclear receptor PPAR

> > gamma which partially controls transcription (the

> > conversion of instructions

> > held in our DNA to RNA which then leads to translation or

> > protein production

> > in the cell).

> > Heavy Metals reside in Fatty Tissue with Biotoxins

> > Heavy metals are also lipid soluble and often compound the

> > removal of

> > biotoxins (Aschner et al 1990, 1998; Dutzak 1991). As has

> > been observed by many

> > clinicians, often as the patients' heavy metal toxicity

> > is addressed they are

> > faced with the additional complication of the presence of

> > biotoxins. Biotoxins

> > and heavy metal exposure co-exist within the cell membrane

> > and fatty tissue

> > requiring consideration for both types of toxicity in

> > regard to patient

> > intervention.

> > By stabilizing glutathione we in turn impact

> > metallothionein markers

> > (Nordberb and Nordberb 2000, Ebadi et al 1995, Sato et al

> > 1995, Kerper et al 1996,

> > to et al 1998), glycoaminoglycans or GAGS (Klein

> > 1992), methylation,

> > sulfation, hepatic and renal function as we introduce

> > treatment protocols for

> > detoxication with gentle, natural modalities that unload

> > cellular toxicity

> > safely. The herbal total Detox Tonic js a remarkably useful

> > method to unload the

> > body burden of heavy metals and neurotoxins without side

> > effects.

> > Renegade fatty acids as Neurotoxin Markers

> > Renegade fats as very long chain fats (VLCFAs) that are

> > over expressed,

> > disrupt the membrane structure. There is a beautiful

> > geometry to the membrane

> > that is highly sensitive to the size of the lipid chains.

> > The overall width of

> > the fatty acid portion of the membrane is ~3 ½ nm which

> > must be maintained for

> > stability. Saturated or monounsaturated fatty acids with a

> > length of 16 or 18

> > carbons and polyunsaturated fatty acids of 18 to 22

> > carbons are preferred to

> > permit the structure to maintain optimal horizontal

> > fluidity. VLCSF As that

> > range from 20 to 26 carbons force the parallel dimensions

> > vertically. There

> > simply is not enough room. The distortion weakens the

> > phosphate bonds that

> > derive their strong attraction only as long as the

> > phospholipids are parallel to

> > each other on both sides of the membrane. The cell

> > weakness is then

> > expressed in leaky attraction to ion channels and

> > receptors which marginalize cell

> > cytosol fluids and electrolytes with the only option as

> > early cell death.

> > The Brain is Comprised of 60% Fat

> > To view the brain beyond its architecture as a biological

> > orchestration of

> > the physical and chemical constituents necessary for

> > performance, we cannot

> > begin to conceptualize without considering the importance

> > of fatty acids as the

> > human brain is 60% lipid. Dendrites and synapses are up to

> > 80% in lipid

> > content. Although Arachidonic Acid (AA) has been given a

> > negative association, it

> > is the most prominent essential fatty acid in the red cell

> > and comprises 12%

> > of the total brain and 15.5% of the body lipid content.

> > If AA is depleted by overdosing with marine or flax oil

> > establishing the

> > balance of the EFAs is profoundly impaired. Often both

> > prostaglandin one and two

> > series relating to omega six metabolism are compromised

> > when flax and marine

> > oils are overdosed or lipid intake is insufficient. When

> > AA, the lead

> > eicosanoid of the body, is suppressed due to excess intake

> > of omega 3, toxicity or

> > disease the control circuitry of the body is impaired as

> > is clearly viewed in

> > the patient's presentation. Arachidonic acid is

> > preferentially wasted in

> > states of heavy metal toxicity (Tiin and Lin, 1998) and

> > has been observed to be

> > sharply suppressed in RBC lipid analysis in states of

> > heavy metal toxicity

> > (Kane, clinical observation 1997-2002).

> > With thanks to , M.D., Kane, Ph.D.,

> > Neal Speight, M.D.

> > (for full article see

> > http://www.mercola.com/2003/aug/9/detoxification_biotoxins.htm)

> >

> >

> > epiousian = the expression of agape

> >

> > quite a bit more than enough

> >

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> So is this saying that if you take too much flax oil it hurts things?

My son had mitochondrial dysfunction. In addition, I had to preload

with Omega 6 [i used evening primrose oil] before giving Omega 3 [fish

oil]. Once my son was done with EPO, I did have to move to flax

before I could give fish oil. He was on flax oil for several months,

with good results, but when he no longer needed flax and I needed to

move him to fish oil, the flax oil did start to cause problems.

Dana

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That's interesting. I saw a programme on British TV this past month

where a man in Morocco, living as a bedouin drank half a glass of pure

olive oil daily for breakfast. He looked very healthy to me :-))

However, I'm sure you have to have good fat digestion otherwise it would

run out the bottom.......:-))

panderson14me schrieb:

>

> Hi Jenifer, I haven't read this whole thread, but just to let you

> know...

>

> I had elevated liver enzymes for some time and one thing that was

> really helpful was olive oil. One day I couldn't resist the craving

> for it and over the next week or two I basically drank 1/4-1/2 cup

> olive oil a few times a day. It did wonders for the way I felt and

> the enzymes went down to almost normal range within a couple months.

>

> I did do other things like milk thistle and magnesium and lots of

> water, but I do think the olive oil was beneficial. I no longer

> crave it (which is a good thing).

>

>

> >

> > > From: sunrose101@. .. <sunrose101@ ...>

> > > Subject: [ ] speaking of oil/fats

> > >

> <mailto: %40>

> > > Date: Thursday, October 16, 2008, 11:55 AM

> > > I found this fascinating. Anyone care to comment?

> > >

> > >

> > > Biotoxins as Neurotoxins

> > > The presentation of biotoxin exposure often parallels

> > > neurological and

> > > psychological impairment due to the interrelationship

> > > between the ENS (Enteral

> > > Nervous System) and the CNS. The biliary tree, gall

> > > bladder, and bile formation

> > > within the liver serve in the vital processes of

> > > detoxication (disposal of

> > > waste products bilirubin, heavy metals, biotoxins,

> > > xenobiotics) , lipid

> > > metabolism, transport and digestion (bile acids).

> > > Abnormalities of the hepatobiliary

> > > system may involve biliary stasis whereby infectious

> > > material or biotoxins

> > > reside within the liver, biliary tree and gall bladder, as

> > > a viscous suspension

> > > in biliary sludge.

> > > Biotoxins as bacteria, viruses, parasites, spirochetes,

> > > dinoflagelletes, and

> > > fungus may be within biliary sludge often creating

> > > neurotoxins impacting the

> > > CNS via the ENS, or the Second Brain (gut). The occurrence

> > > of biliary sludge

> > > may be due to prolonged fasting, low fat intake, high

> > > carbohydrate diets or

> > > exposure to pathogens. Restriction of dietary fat may

> > > impair biliary flow

> > > which would be contraindicated in attempting to clear

> > > toxicity as bile is

> > > paramount to cleansing the body and getting biotoxins and

> > > heavy metals excreted into

> > > the fecal matter.

> > > Neurotoxins are minute compounds between 200-1000 KD

> > > (kilodaltons) that are

> > > comprised of oxygen, nitrogen and sulfate atoms arranged in

> > > such a way as to

> > > make the outside of the molecule fat loving and water

> > > hating. As such, once it

> > > enters the body, it tends to bind to structures that are

> > > rich in fat such as

> > > most of our cells, especially the liver, kidney, and

> > > brain. Neurotoxins are

> > > capable of dissolving in fatty tissue and moving through

> > > it, crossing cell

> > > membranes (transporting against a gradient, particularly

> > > with potassium)

> > > disrupting the electrical balance of the cell itself.

> > > As fat soluble neurotoxins move through the cells of the

> > > body from the GI

> > > tract to sinus to lung to eye to muscle, to joint to nerve,

> > > whereby they

> > > eventually enter the liver and the bile. Once neurotoxins

> > > bind with bile they have

> > > access to the liver, the body is poisoned over and over

> > > again as the bile is

> > > re-circulated (first released into the intestine to digest

> > > fats, and then

> > > reabsorbed).

> > > Neurotoxins cause damage by disrupting sodium and calcium

> > > channel receptors,

> > > attacking enzyme reactions involved in glucose production

> > > thereby disrupting

> > > energy metabolism in the cell, manufacturing renegade fatty

> > > acids as

> > > saturated very long chain, odd chain and branched chain

> > > fatty acids impairing

> > > membrane function, stimulating enzymes (PLA2) which

> > > uncouple essential fatty acids

> > > from the cell membrane and impairing the function of the

> > > nuclear receptor PPAR

> > > gamma which partially controls transcription (the

> > > conversion of instructions

> > > held in our DNA to RNA which then leads to translation or

> > > protein production

> > > in the cell).

> > > Heavy Metals reside in Fatty Tissue with Biotoxins

> > > Heavy metals are also lipid soluble and often compound the

> > > removal of

> > > biotoxins (Aschner et al 1990, 1998; Dutzak 1991). As has

> > > been observed by many

> > > clinicians, often as the patients' heavy metal toxicity

> > > is addressed they are

> > > faced with the additional complication of the presence of

> > > biotoxins. Biotoxins

> > > and heavy metal exposure co-exist within the cell membrane

> > > and fatty tissue

> > > requiring consideration for both types of toxicity in

> > > regard to patient

> > > intervention.

> > > By stabilizing glutathione we in turn impact

> > > metallothionein markers

> > > (Nordberb and Nordberb 2000, Ebadi et al 1995, Sato et al

> > > 1995, Kerper et al 1996,

> > > to et al 1998), glycoaminoglycans or GAGS (Klein

> > > 1992), methylation,

> > > sulfation, hepatic and renal function as we introduce

> > > treatment protocols for

> > > detoxication with gentle, natural modalities that unload

> > > cellular toxicity

> > > safely. The herbal total Detox Tonic js a remarkably useful

> > > method to unload the

> > > body burden of heavy metals and neurotoxins without side

> > > effects.

> > > Renegade fatty acids as Neurotoxin Markers

> > > Renegade fats as very long chain fats (VLCFAs) that are

> > > over expressed,

> > > disrupt the membrane structure. There is a beautiful

> > > geometry to the membrane

> > > that is highly sensitive to the size of the lipid chains.

> > > The overall width of

> > > the fatty acid portion of the membrane is ~3 ½ nm which

> > > must be maintained for

> > > stability. Saturated or monounsaturated fatty acids with a

> > > length of 16 or 18

> > > carbons and polyunsaturated fatty acids of 18 to 22

> > > carbons are preferred to

> > > permit the structure to maintain optimal horizontal

> > > fluidity. VLCSF As that

> > > range from 20 to 26 carbons force the parallel dimensions

> > > vertically. There

> > > simply is not enough room. The distortion weakens the

> > > phosphate bonds that

> > > derive their strong attraction only as long as the

> > > phospholipids are parallel to

> > > each other on both sides of the membrane. The cell

> > > weakness is then

> > > expressed in leaky attraction to ion channels and

> > > receptors which marginalize cell

> > > cytosol fluids and electrolytes with the only option as

> > > early cell death.

> > > The Brain is Comprised of 60% Fat

> > > To view the brain beyond its architecture as a biological

> > > orchestration of

> > > the physical and chemical constituents necessary for

> > > performance, we cannot

> > > begin to conceptualize without considering the importance

> > > of fatty acids as the

> > > human brain is 60% lipid. Dendrites and synapses are up to

> > > 80% in lipid

> > > content. Although Arachidonic Acid (AA) has been given a

> > > negative association, it

> > > is the most prominent essential fatty acid in the red cell

> > > and comprises 12%

> > > of the total brain and 15.5% of the body lipid content.

> > > If AA is depleted by overdosing with marine or flax oil

> > > establishing the

> > > balance of the EFAs is profoundly impaired. Often both

> > > prostaglandin one and two

> > > series relating to omega six metabolism are compromised

> > > when flax and marine

> > > oils are overdosed or lipid intake is insufficient. When

> > > AA, the lead

> > > eicosanoid of the body, is suppressed due to excess intake

> > > of omega 3, toxicity or

> > > disease the control circuitry of the body is impaired as

> > > is clearly viewed in

> > > the patient's presentation. Arachidonic acid is

> > > preferentially wasted in

> > > states of heavy metal toxicity (Tiin and Lin, 1998) and

> > > has been observed to be

> > > sharply suppressed in RBC lipid analysis in states of

> > > heavy metal toxicity

> > > (Kane, clinical observation 1997-2002).

> > > With thanks to , M.D., Kane, Ph.D.,

> > > Neal Speight, M.D.

> > > (for full article see

> > > http://www.mercola. com/2003/ aug/9/detoxifica tion_biotoxins. htm

> <http://www.mercola.com/2003/aug/9/detoxification_biotoxins.htm>)

> > >

> > >

> > > epiousian = the expression of agape

> > >

> > > quite a bit more than enough

> > >

> > >

> > > ************ **New MapQuest Local shows what's happening

> > > at your destination.

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> > >

> > >

> > >

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> So is this saying that if you take too much flax oil it hurts

things? I have always read that flax oil is helpful to the liver.

This is something I may have to read a few times to fully process.

>

> My liver problem (I believe is related to my son's ASD) is baffeling

doctors, but they feel that something is going on in the bile ducts.

Of course that is the best guess they have come up and recommend I go

to the MAYO clinic for exploratory surgery to " see if they can find

anything that is causing the enzymes to be elevated so high " I think

when we figure out that OR the ASD answer the other will make sense too.

>

>

For me, getting rid of toxic household cleaners, particle board or MDF

furniture and other sources of toxins like that in my environment

helped take stress off my liver. I also took milk thistle for maybe a

couple of years, maybe less than that. I don't remember exactly how

long. As we got rid of the toxic crap in our environment, my two

son's ASD traits got less severe as well.

For me and my sons, coconut oil and organic butter were the key

healthy fats/oils that helped. I recently added olive oil back into my

diet. I have found that eliminating problem fats and getting enough

healthy fats makes a huge difference. Some oils I stay away from:

canola oil, peanut oil, corn oil, soybean oil. Peanut oil is high in

arachidonic acid. Andy mentioned that and it was an AHA! moment for

me. I had given up peanuts and peanut oil about 3 years ago and have

done better since. I thought it was some kind of allergy. I have

done some looking into arachidonic acid and that is beginning to make

sense of a number of other things as well.

Good luck with this.

Michele

http://www.healthgazelle.org

http://www.kidslikemine.org

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Hehehe. No none of that here. But it sure wasn't doing much for my

girlish figure!

>

> That's interesting. I saw a programme on British TV this past month

> where a man in Morocco, living as a bedouin drank half a glass of

pure

> olive oil daily for breakfast. He looked very healthy to me :-))

> However, I'm sure you have to have good fat digestion otherwise it

would

> run out the bottom.......:-))

>

>

>

> panderson14me schrieb:

> >

> > Hi Jenifer, I haven't read this whole thread, but just to let you

> > know...

> >

> > I had elevated liver enzymes for some time and one thing that was

> > really helpful was olive oil. One day I couldn't resist the

craving

> > for it and over the next week or two I basically drank 1/4-1/2 cup

> > olive oil a few times a day. It did wonders for the way I felt and

> > the enzymes went down to almost normal range within a couple

months.

> >

> > I did do other things like milk thistle and magnesium and lots of

> > water, but I do think the olive oil was beneficial. I no longer

> > crave it (which is a good thing).

> >

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