Re: Moulden wants $1,000s -- the true story starts to surface.

[Guest guest]

I tried to do the EEg with my son, but when we got there they were running late

and I had him at the tired point they wanted him at. After an hour of waiting I

could not keep him awake any longer and he got a cat nap. WHen they finally

took him in he would not cooperate and they said it was my fault for letting

him sleep. THen they said they had other patients waiting so we would have to

reschedule. My husband was so mad at putting him through all that and a 2 hour

drive that he forbid me to reschedule.

> From: dmlcannon <dmlcannon@...>

> Subject: [ ] Re: Moulden wants $1,000s -- the true story starts

to surface.

>

> Date: Friday, October 17, 2008, 11:23 AM

> Well, a brain scan or sleep studies scan will not show

> anything,

> maybe in your case will show. I assumed all of you brain

> scanned your

> children at this point. I did it. Everthing looks normal,

> the problem

> with this type of MICROVASCULAR STROKES, are what the name

> says,

> MICROSCOPIC, you are not going to see it with those tests.

> I do not

> what kind of test you can use to see them.

>

>

>

> >

> > Looks, guys, don't get so down here... I just

> called my son's

> primary doctor (pedi), they told me they can run all the

> initial

> tests for him to detect whether he had strokes before such

> as CT

> scan, blood work.... After they determined it is positive,

> and they

> will refer my son to stroke specialists such as

> neurologist...

> > Looks, if you and your husband are teachers, I am sure

> your

> insruance is better than anyone else,you can use your

> insurance to

> see the mainstream MD and start the work to detect or catch

> if there

> is any strokes happened before and how to prevent the next

> one and

> how repaire the damage parts ( rehabilitation)..... Until

> Now, I am

> still thankful that somebody like Dr. M pin pointed out

> this possible

> cause of autism--stroke, at least, stroke is not something

> new to

> mainstream medical practice, you may get more helps from

> mainstream

> medical fields than something like chelation or MB12 shots

> ( not many

> medical practicions are familiar with these two protocols).

>

> > Just go ahead making apointments with your pedi or

> neuorologist

> today if you have one.

> >

> >

> > Sincerely,

> >

> > Rei

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> > Network Funding, LP

> > 6070 Gateway East, Suite 509

> > El Paso, TX 79905

> > Phone: 915-775-4669

> > Fax: 915-775-9916

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> > Less in Debt.  More in Life.

> > Ask me about debt consolidation loans.

> >  

> >

[Guest guest]

You are so smart. That is a great idea. Thanks. My ped is pretty open, but I

will talk to her and see how open she really is!

>

> > From: J Moulden <drmouldenrogers (DOT) com>

> > Subject: [ ] Re: Moulden wants $1,000s --

> the true story starts to surface.

> >

> > Date: Friday, October 17, 2008, 5:48 AM

> > for free if one of yu wishes to pay the 6000/month

> price tag

> > for the

> > unlimited space servers.... or staff..or diagnostcos,

> ..

> >

> > but then again, perhaps you would rather poay the $700

> for

> > a series of

> > 3 shots of Gardasil

> >

> > Maybe yu would like to wait in line and foot the 2000

> bill

> > for an MRI

> > which tells you nothing.

> >

> > maybe you would like to reimburse my time for what the

> > legal arena

> > must pay for my time at $400/hour?

> >

> > Maybe you should ask why this man would give up six

> hours

> > to do a

> > scanning and report service for people to help them

> > understand what is

> > happening to them and their children for 416 dollars

> when

> > he can

> > simply leave all to languish and just do medical legal

> > work.

> >

> > If you invent a computer..you sell it at what you

> will.

> >

> > Maybe I should sit in a medical clinical like all

> other

> > Doctors do,

> > dispense medications that harm you, vaccinate with

> > substances that

> > harm you, and listen to your woes, for 300,000 a year?

> >

> > Perhaps if someone has the pockets to fight Big Pharma

> and

> > Merck to

> > stop killing and rendering children brain damaged from

> > their products,

> > then i would not have to do this task for all at my

> own

> > cost.

> >

> > Perhaps if you recognized that Merck, who makes the

> MMR,

> > had their

> > Vioxx pills pulled from the market in 2004 by the FDA

> as

> > Vioxx killed

> > 10,000 people by causing heart attack and strokes. As

> > Doctors we were

> > complaining about this in 2002, but Merck dragged

> their

> > feet to keep

> > making profit and even when we all agreed Merck'

> Vioxx

> > was causing

> > strokes, Merck put 750 million of third quarter

> profits of

> > 18.6

> > billion dollars into a find to defend themselves

> against

> > law suits for

> > wrongful death..and they were winning, simply because

> they

> > had more

> > money than the plaintiffs they killed.

> >

> > Maybe if you wish to pay the lawyers fees (600/hr) in

> order

> > to go

> > prosecute these pharamceutcial companies as they are

> > causing your

> > children to be the way they are now.

> >

> > Maybe if these pharmaceutical companies were spending

> ANY

> > money at

> > finding the cause and cure for autism, let alone any

> cures,

> > then we

> > would all be better off.

> > Maybe because most prescription drugs have a 3000%

> mark-up

> > the system

> > is sick.

> >

> > Maybe because a DR finally is standing up to them on

> your

> > behalf your

> > may have an ally rather than an enemy.

> >

> > If you want help..go ask Merck; If you want someone to

> give

> > you

> > something for nothing...then you will help yourself,

> but

> > then you have

> > just denied everyone else help because you took

> advantage

> > of someones

> > good will for yourself and not thinking of another.

> >

> > Do you truly think that a person who gave up 21 years

> of

> > life to study

> > medicine and health sciences did this to profit?....

> if you

> > want

> > someone to go fight your battles, then they and best

> have

> > the tools to

> > fight else you will all lose - your adversary, Big

> Pharma,

> > Makes 700

> > billion/year selling all their products (and that is

> just

> > the top 5).

> >

> > When a child is being rendered autistic at the rate of

> > every b15

> > seconds across this planet...by Big Pharma..who is

> > profiting off this

> > and have passed laws that yu cannot sue them when they

> harm

> > yu with

> > vaccines.... who is going to stand up to them,and what

> are

> > they going

> > to use to do this? If yu have any brigher ideas than

> > BrainGuard.. please share...

> >

> > Otherwise, stand at the back of the battlefront and

> let

> > those who will

> > carry the weapons you need to the front line their own

> way.

> >

> > If you have a better way than BrainGuard to stop these

> > powerful

> > coprorations rom decimating the children with these

> > vaccines, then

> > please step up..I am behind you 100%;

> >

> > If you have a better way than BrainGuard for proving

> these

> > pharmaceutical companies have destroyed your children

> s

> > health..please

> > stand up and step up..I am behind you.

> >

> > If yu have a better way other than BrainGuard to proof

> your

> > children

> > were harmed by vaccines and therefore enable you to

> sue

> > these

> > individuals successfully to get at least 250,000 to

> 850,000

> > in your

> > pockets to help recover and care for your

> children..then

> > step up, I am

> > behind you.

> >

> > If you have no solution..then step aside and let

> someone

> > who has

> > invented the means, methods, and tools to do the

> job..you

> > can complain

> > all you want on how I load the gun, unless you are

> willing

> > to carry

> > it,,then stay out of the way...you can complain all

> you

> > want form the

> > back; but when it comes to reap the spoils of war for

> your

> > benefit...stay in the back and keep complaining.

> >

> > And when the solution to fix the problems you seek

> help

> > with for your

> > children " pops up " ..stay in the back, and

> keep

> > complaining. ..but do

> > send your children forward as what i do is for

> them..and no

> > one else.

> >

> > Dr A.M.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > > So. Here we are. Overpriced, unproven,

> undocumented

> > services for the

> > > emotionally vulnerable and scientifically

> gullible. It

> > all reads like

> > > a late-night TV ad.

> > >

> > > From Moulden's website http://brainguardmd

> .com

> > >

> > > |Due to the overwhelming response to our

> services, we

> > will not be able

> > > |to offer these services for free anymore. There

> are

> > certain costs

> > > |associated with diagnosing people who have

> > neurological damage, and we

> > > |need to be able to cover these expenses. For

> those

> > that have already

> > > |received our services please comment on our

> Brain

> > Blog, so others know

> > > |that we know the who what why and when your

> child has

> > been affected.

> > > |

> > > |Sorry for the inconvenience

> > > |

> > > |Dr Moulden BA, MA, MD, PhD

> > >

> > > How much?

> > >

> > > $416 for the basic analysis of 2 videos and 4

> photos,

> > i.e a form email

> > > reply.

> > >

> > > Forensic Proof Causation

> > > Limited Medical review and direct phone contact,

> > history with an M.D.

> > > $2500 CDN

> > >

> > > Help FIX My Vaccine Injured Brain

> > > Limited Medical review and direct phone contact,

> > history with an M.D.

> > > - If we don't help " fix " the

> problem

> > ⤠" you don't pay

> > > - Includes before/after scanning and assessment

> to

> > document and

> > > quantify intervention success.

> > > - Voluntary services ⤠" 100%

> Biocompatible

> > > (no synthetic drugs)!

> > > $5000 CDN

> > >

> > > EMERGENCY BrainGuard Scanning

> > > Continuous Streaming Video BrainGuard Scanning

> > > $10,000 CDN

> > >

> > > Next, we have a real-estate scam:

> > >

> > > " IMAM-12 membership entitles you for up to

> 1%

> > (buy/sell)off real

> > > estate sales brokers fees across more than 40

> > countries (this equates

> > > to $3000 on a 300,000 property). "

> > >

> > > What does this have to do with autism and

> strokes?

> > >

> > > The RCMP and Elections Canada will be very

> interested

> > in all of this.

> > >

> > > This also makes for interesting reading:

> > >

> > http://hatingautism .blogspot. com/2008/ 10/scams-

> over-no-andrew- moulden.html

> > >

> > > If it acts like a quack, sounds like a quack, and

> > DUCKS like a quack,

> > > it's a QUACK!

> > >

> > >

> > >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

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From: Jan <mercurybabies2@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: Moulden wants $1,000s -- the true story starts to

surface.

Date: Friday, October 17, 2008, 4:45 PM

Perhaps she cannot say that she did. I mean, not too many of us can

say that out loud, in public with millions of people hearing it. Since

do gooders like to call CPS on your if they think your doing something

" weird " to your kid. Well, whatever she did, I'm glad her kid is

better.

> > > Dr Moulden was doing this service for free. Do you realize the

> time and cost invilved?

> > > How many people, once they got word..sent their photos and

> video " just to see "

> > > wasting his valuable time. This man spent 2 hours on the phone

> with me.

> > > He also looked at my sons photos and video for free and gave

> excellent feedback.

> > > He took the time to explain but also took the time to listen. I

> just dont understand how

> > > you people, who having no real experience with this man, can

> assume the worst.

> > > He is on our side. You may not agree with him. And I think thats

> obviously fine..

> > > He is not going to give you a " how to cure your child

" protocol

> because all children

> > > are different. He does take the liver as a usual means of

> starting the process but really

> > > what works for one child, may not for another. As for the

reality

> part. I believe if you

> > > look it shows that this helps pay for services parents cannot

> afford.

> > > On another note

> > > Mcarthy healed her son without chelation

> > > Stan Kurtz healed his son without chelation

> > > In saying this, I am not saying chelation isnt needed and

> helpful. But its quite obvious, for some

> > > children, its not the sole answer to recovery. This is why I

feel

> at minimum, parents should at least

> > > be open to other avenues, as well as chelation, and soley on

> their own childs personal needs.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > 38 and Mom to three

> > > Tasha 23..new Mommy ( means I am a Grammy )

> > > Casey-Mae 13..sweet as pie

> > > Elijah 2.. ASD and beautiful

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > [ ] Moulden wants $1,000s -- the true

story

> starts to surface.

> > >

> > >

> > > So. Here we are. Overpriced, unproven, undocumented services for

> the

> > > emotionally vulnerable and scientifically gullible. It all reads

> like

> > > a late-night TV ad.

> > >

> > > >From Moulden's website http://brainguardmd .com

> > >

> > > |Due to the overwhelming response to our services, we will not

be

> able

> > > |to offer these services for free anymore. There are certain

> costs

> > > |associated with diagnosing people who have neurological damage,

> and we

> > > |need to be able to cover these expenses. For those that have

> already

> > > |received our services please comment on our Brain Blog, so

> others know

> > > |that we know the who what why and when your child has been

> affected.

> > > |

> > > |Sorry for the inconvenience

> > > |

> > > |Dr Moulden BA, MA, MD, PhD

> > >

> > > How much?

> > >

> > > $416 for the basic analysis of 2 videos and 4 photos, i.e a form

> email

> > > reply.

> > >

> > > Forensic Proof Causation

> > > Limited Medical review and direct phone contact, history with an

> M.D.

> > > $2500 CDN

> > >

> > > Help FIX My Vaccine Injured Brain

> > > Limited Medical review and direct phone contact, history with an

> M.D.

> > > - If we don't help " fix " the problem ⤠"

you don't pay

> > > - Includes before/after scanning and assessment to document and

> > > quantify intervention success.

> > > - Voluntary services ⤠" 100% Biocompatible

> > > (no synthetic drugs)!

> > > $5000 CDN

> > >

> > > EMERGENCY BrainGuard Scanning

> > > Continuous Streaming Video BrainGuard Scanning

> > > $10,000 CDN

> > >

> > > Next, we have a real-estate scam:

> > >

> > > " IMAM-12 membership entitles you for up to 1% (buy/sell)off

real

> > > estate sales brokers fees across more than 40 countries (this

> equates

> > > to $3000 on a 300,000 property). "

> > >

> > > What does this have to do with autism and strokes?

> > >

> > > The RCMP and Elections Canada will be very interested in all of

> this.

> > >

> > > This also makes for interesting reading:

> > > http://hatingautism .blogspot. com/2008/ 10/scams-

over-no-andrew-

> moulden.html

> > >

> > > If it acts like a quack, sounds like a quack, and DUCKS like a

> quack,

> > > it's a QUACK!

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > __________________________________________________

> > >

[Guest guest]

That's kind of what I thought when I first heard her story. I didn't

doubt it. How else would he have come so far, and why would she focus

on the metals and toxins in the vaccines. Anyway...moving on..back to

helping others.

> > > > Dr Moulden was doing this service for free. Do you realize the

> > time and cost invilved?

> > > > How many people, once they got word..sent their photos and

> > video " just to see "

> > > > wasting his valuable time. This man spent 2 hours on the phone

> > with me.

> > > > He also looked at my sons photos and video for free and gave

> > excellent feedback.

> > > > He took the time to explain but also took the time to listen. I

> > just dont understand how

> > > > you people, who having no real experience with this man, can

> > assume the worst.

> > > > He is on our side. You may not agree with him. And I think thats

>

> > obviously fine..

> > > > He is not going to give you a " how to cure your child

> " protocol

> > because all children

> > > > are different. He does take the liver as a usual means of

> > starting the process but really

> > > > what works for one child, may not for another. As for the

> reality

> > part. I believe if you

> > > > look it shows that this helps pay for services parents cannot

> > afford.

> > > > On another note

> > > > Mcarthy healed her son without chelation

> > > > Stan Kurtz healed his son without chelation

> > > > In saying this, I am not saying chelation isnt needed and

> > helpful. But its quite obvious, for some

> > > > children, its not the sole answer to recovery. This is why I

> feel

> > at minimum, parents should at least

> > > > be open to other avenues, as well as chelation, and soley on

> > their own childs personal needs.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > 38 and Mom to three

> > > > Tasha 23..new Mommy ( means I am a Grammy )

> > > > Casey-Mae 13..sweet as pie

> > > > Elijah 2.. ASD and beautiful

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > [ ] Moulden wants $1,000s -- the true

> story

> > starts to surface.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > So. Here we are. Overpriced, unproven, undocumented services for

>

> > the

> > > > emotionally vulnerable and scientifically gullible. It all reads

>

> > like

> > > > a late-night TV ad.

> > > >

> > > > >From Moulden's website http://brainguardmd .com

> > > >

> > > > |Due to the overwhelming response to our services, we will not

> be

> > able

> > > > |to offer these services for free anymore. There are certain

> > costs

> > > > |associated with diagnosing people who have neurological damage,

>

> > and we

> > > > |need to be able to cover these expenses. For those that have

> > already

> > > > |received our services please comment on our Brain Blog, so

> > others know

> > > > |that we know the who what why and when your child has been

> > affected.

> > > > |

> > > > |Sorry for the inconvenience

> > > > |

> > > > |Dr Moulden BA, MA, MD, PhD

> > > >

> > > > How much?

> > > >

> > > > $416 for the basic analysis of 2 videos and 4 photos, i.e a form

>

> > email

> > > > reply.

> > > >

> > > > Forensic Proof Causation

> > > > Limited Medical review and direct phone contact, history with an

>

> > M.D.

> > > > $2500 CDN

> > > >

> > > > Help FIX My Vaccine Injured Brain

> > > > Limited Medical review and direct phone contact, history with an

>

> > M.D.

> > > > - If we don't help " fix " the problem ⤠"

> you don't pay

> > > > - Includes before/after scanning and assessment to document and

> > > > quantify intervention success.

> > > > - Voluntary services ⤠" 100% Biocompatible

> > > > (no synthetic drugs)!

> > > > $5000 CDN

> > > >

> > > > EMERGENCY BrainGuard Scanning

> > > > Continuous Streaming Video BrainGuard Scanning

> > > > $10,000 CDN

> > > >

> > > > Next, we have a real-estate scam:

> > > >

> > > > " IMAM-12 membership entitles you for up to 1% (buy/sell)off

> real

> > > > estate sales brokers fees across more than 40 countries (this

> > equates

> > > > to $3000 on a 300,000 property). "

> > > >

> > > > What does this have to do with autism and strokes?

> > > >

> > > > The RCMP and Elections Canada will be very interested in all of

> > this.

> > > >

> > > > This also makes for interesting reading:

> > > > http://hatingautism .blogspot. com/2008/ 10/scams-

> over-no-andrew-

> > moulden.html

> > > >

> > > > If it acts like a quack, sounds like a quack, and DUCKS like a

> > quack,

> > > > it's a QUACK!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > __________________________________________________

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Well this is a good point. I am also part of a group that tries to

promote the use of biomedical intervention to help our kids. If ever

any of us talks to any PRESS, the golden rule we all have is that no one

mentions chelation. The reason is that our message has a better chance

of getting out and we're not see as " radical " or " irresponsible " or just

plain nutters. It is unfortunate that this is the case, but we figure

as long as new parents get started in helping their child, then they can

learn about chelation a bit later. They don't need to be told

everything at once.

Jan wrote:

>

> Perhaps she cannot say that she did. I mean, not too many of us can

> say that out loud, in public with millions of people hearing it. Since

> do gooders like to call CPS on your if they think your doing something

> " weird " to your kid. Well, whatever she did, I'm glad her kid is better.

>

>

> > > > Dr Moulden was doing this service for free. Do you realize the

> > time and cost invilved?

> > > > How many people, once they got word..sent their photos and

> > video " just to see "

> > > > wasting his valuable time. This man spent 2 hours on the phone

> > with me.

> > > > He also looked at my sons photos and video for free and gave

> > excellent feedback.

> > > > He took the time to explain but also took the time to listen. I

> > just dont understand how

> > > > you people, who having no real experience with this man, can

> > assume the worst.

> > > > He is on our side. You may not agree with him. And I think thats

> > obviously fine..

> > > > He is not going to give you a " how to cure your child " protocol

> > because all children

> > > > are different. He does take the liver as a usual means of

> > starting the process but really

> > > > what works for one child, may not for another. As for the reality

> > part. I believe if you

> > > > look it shows that this helps pay for services parents cannot

> > afford.

> > > > On another note

> > > > Mcarthy healed her son without chelation

> > > > Stan Kurtz healed his son without chelation

> > > > In saying this, I am not saying chelation isnt needed and

> > helpful. But its quite obvious, for some

> > > > children, its not the sole answer to recovery. This is why I feel

> > at minimum, parents should at least

> > > > be open to other avenues, as well as chelation, and soley on

> > their own childs personal needs.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > 38 and Mom to three

> > > > Tasha 23..new Mommy ( means I am a Grammy )

> > > > Casey-Mae 13..sweet as pie

> > > > Elijah 2.. ASD and beautiful

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > [ ] Moulden wants $1,000s -- the true story

> > starts to surface.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > So. Here we are. Overpriced, unproven, undocumented services for

> > the

> > > > emotionally vulnerable and scientifically gullible. It all reads

> > like

> > > > a late-night TV ad.

> > > >

> > > > >From Moulden's website http://brainguardmd .com

> > > >

> > > > |Due to the overwhelming response to our services, we will not be

> > able

> > > > |to offer these services for free anymore. There are certain

> > costs

> > > > |associated with diagnosing people who have neurological damage,

> > and we

> > > > |need to be able to cover these expenses. For those that have

> > already

> > > > |received our services please comment on our Brain Blog, so

> > others know

> > > > |that we know the who what why and when your child has been

> > affected.

> > > > |

> > > > |Sorry for the inconvenience

> > > > |

> > > > |Dr Moulden BA, MA, MD, PhD

> > > >

> > > > How much?

> > > >

> > > > $416 for the basic analysis of 2 videos and 4 photos, i.e a form

> > email

> > > > reply.

> > > >

> > > > Forensic Proof Causation

> > > > Limited Medical review and direct phone contact, history with an

> > M.D.

> > > > $2500 CDN

> > > >

> > > > Help FIX My Vaccine Injured Brain

> > > > Limited Medical review and direct phone contact, history with an

> > M.D.

> > > > - If we don't help " fix " the problem ⤠" you don't pay

> > > > - Includes before/after scanning and assessment to document and

> > > > quantify intervention success.

> > > > - Voluntary services ⤠" 100% Biocompatible

> > > > (no synthetic drugs)!

> > > > $5000 CDN

> > > >

> > > > EMERGENCY BrainGuard Scanning

> > > > Continuous Streaming Video BrainGuard Scanning

> > > > $10,000 CDN

> > > >

> > > > Next, we have a real-estate scam:

> > > >

> > > > " IMAM-12 membership entitles you for up to 1% (buy/sell)off real

> > > > estate sales brokers fees across more than 40 countries (this

> > equates

> > > > to $3000 on a 300,000 property). "

> > > >

> > > > What does this have to do with autism and strokes?

> > > >

> > > > The RCMP and Elections Canada will be very interested in all of

> > this.

> > > >

> > > > This also makes for interesting reading:

> > > > http://hatingautism .blogspot. com/2008/ 10/scams- over-no-andrew-

> > moulden.html

> > > >

> > > > If it acts like a quack, sounds like a quack, and DUCKS like a

> > quack,

> > > > it's a QUACK!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > __________________________________________________

> > > >

[Guest guest]

>

> I thought posts were not subjected to censorship. I wonder who in fact

> moderating this group is not posting all of them

I " moderate " this group, term used loosely. Generally, the only

action I take, is to ban list members who post spam. This would be

AFTER the spam is posted, since the list settings do not require me to

approve messages before posting. Everything sent to the list is

posted automatically.

Despite several private emails requesting that I take action,

representing both sides of this discussion, I have chosen not to.

Therefore, all messages are posted as written, and when written,

unless a glitch has caused an issue.

Dana