shortish andy kudo, was Re: Moulden-Cutler Controversy

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(below is snipped from 's post)....

PS. I'm going away now, having had, like Andy, my dose of

frustration for the week. Not that you should care about my emotional

state. You might, however, wonder if one of these days Andy might

decide that helping us simply is not worth it, given he is forced to

share the podium with some of the drivel that filters in off the streets.

====This totally made me snort...in empathy, yes, but also hit home -

When I first joined group and found information that meshed with what

I had so far come across, it was the sheer repetitiveness of the most

important information that helped...Brain fog, physical issues, lack

of sleep, and more - pretty much ruled my life. This, while trying to

find some sort of answers that made sense of my migraine girl's

" perpetual misery. " (big sigh - never mind the older kids patiently

waiting on the sidelines) Her " good " days could be counted on less

than one hand, in any given month...And, this dynamic (of toxicity)

and way of being does continue for me, tho to a much lesser degree - I

have absorbed/retained much much information, but often " miss "

pertinent pieces of good information to know - lolol, with a total

URRGG...however, this place happens to be one of the few places, that

I DO count on, to " repeat and repeat " again, those things that I DO

need keep focused on, and be aware of....I DO count on Andy, among

others, for that, and am beyond grateful, and feel very blessed, that

he and they, are able to work around any of their frustrations &

continue to address these and any other side issues that may come

up....and comment on their relative " bearing " on my life....and to

quote again, " Once you find a good 'interpreter', you stick

with them. " I tend to stick with Andy, on matters such as this -

he interprets things very well for me....wishing all the best answers,

elizabeth

>

> He _had_ a chance: his open letter to Andy.

>

> To put it bluntly, and to possibly come off as a snob, the majority

> of parents ( " under-educated " or not) simply aren't qualified to make

> the determination as to whether X is a good idea or a bad one. You

> seem to be advocating listening to _anyone_ selling snake oil from

> the back of horse-drawn carts. These people can _sound_ very

> convincing, but if the science isn't there, it isn't going to appear

> mysteriously later. We all rely on opinion and interpretation because

> no one here (except Andy perhaps) has the tools to do their own

> assessment of proposed facts. Once you find a good " interpreter " , you

> stick with them.

>

> I am not threatened. I have just developed a very good BS detector,

> and number one on that list is how fast a person talks and how much

> they talk about themselves. They promote their qualifications and

> knowledge in unquantifiable, unverifiable terms, trying to impress.

> Speaking in grandiose, meaningless phrases ( " I never take a stand

> unless I am confident I have the truth and we will win - in any

> truism or sport " ) and using winkie-smileys really doesn't help

> either. It's all political rhetoric learnt to promote a personality

> cult.

>

> And no, I don't believe _everyone_ should be given a forum. Call me

> elitist, but devastating historical atrocities could have been

> avoided if common sense had been used. There are many " compelling

> arguments " in how the " superiority of the Aryan race " was presented

> to Germans in the 1930s. The principal manner in which this was

> propagated was through small town meetings, to which people invited

> others, saying " just listen, what can you lose? " . The mindset

> (desperate financial times) were quite parallel to those in this

> group (desperate medical family tragedies) and promote an irrational

> willingness to listen to anything, to grasp at straws.

>

> My experience of this group is that it is very CHALLENGING, not

> negative, when new ideas are brought up. It's as it should be. In

> science, you are guilty until proven innocent.

>

>

>

> PS. I'm going away now, having had, like Andy, my dose of frustration

> for the week. Not that you should care about my emotional state. You

> might, however, wonder if one of these days Andy might decide that

> helping us simply is not worth it, given he is forced to share the

> podium with some of the drivel that filters in off the streets.

>

> PPS. Bumper-sticker talk doesn't help. Parachutes also have to be

> properly designed. Being open is just the beginning of the thought

> process. Some parachutes will fail when opened, for a number of

> reasons, having holes in them being just one...

>