Re: OT:Thyroid issues in adolescents??

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From: vickiwaihi

My aunt is having some concerns about her NT 13 year old daughter. She and her

husband

just thought the child had been " lazy " for a while but after doing some online

research she

suspects thyroid issues. Is there a test you can get online to rule out

thyroid?

====>Yes, there is an online lab where anyone can order a TSH, Free T3 and T4,

can't remember the name, hopefully someone else will.

Perhaps a

saliva or hair test? I would appreciate advice or experiences from anyone who

has dealt with

thyroid issues in children. Thanks so much, Vicki

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> ----- Original Message -----

> From: vickiwaihi

>

>

>

> My aunt is having some concerns about her NT 13 year old

daughter. She and her husband

> just thought the child had been " lazy " for a while but after

doing some online research she

> suspects thyroid issues. Is there a test you can get online to

rule out thyroid?

>

> ====>Yes, there is an online lab where anyone can order a TSH,

Free T3 and T4, can't remember the name, hopefully someone else will.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Canary Club (www.canaryclub.org) is mentioned often as a good place

for thyroid testing for adults. Though I've seen unanswered questions

in the past as to whether this lab is good for testing children/teens.

The question came up in the past about whether they provide separate

ranges for this children and teens and I never saw the answer.

Hopefully others can provide more information about labs and their

ranges. I'm also interested in the answer and where to test kids

accurately but for my 7 & 5 yr olds.

>

> My aunt is having some concerns about her NT 13 year old daughter.

She and her husband

> just thought the child had been " lazy " for a while but after doing

some online research she

> suspects thyroid issues. Is there a test you can get online to

rule out thyroid? Perhaps a

> saliva or hair test? I would appreciate advice or experiences from

anyone who has dealt with

> thyroid issues in children. Thanks so much, Vicki

>

[Guest guest]

Welcome to teen thyroid 101....

I diagnosed my 12 year old, and finally got her treated at 13 years.

There is no hair test or saliva test that is worthwhile or accurate

for thyroid issues. Originally we had done a saliva panel for adrenal

and it contained thyroid hormones. It did not show her having any

antibodies, but on blood testing she does. They have since stopped

doing saliva thyroid levels because there seems to be a problem with

accuracy. She can order blood work through HealthCheck USA if her

doctor won't run it. She'd need Free T3, Free T4, TSH, and thyroid

antibodies. Most doctors are reasonable enough to at least run basic

thyroid labs and CBC for you. If you go in an present her symptoms and

say you'd like to rule out thyroid and some deficiencies. Usually,

they will do the test. They may not treat you though. IF she gets

someone to run the test, make sure you get copies of the labs mailed

to you. Don't just take their word on the phone that " everything is

normal " . In range is not always normal for everyone. Mainstream docs

don't usually consider the thyroid a problem unless TSH is 5. However,

TSH is not a thyroid hormone, and by the time it's that high..you

thyroid is literally not functioning anymore.

I would also recommend reading up on www.stopthethyroidmadness.com so

she knows what the labs should be, and what to do to find treatment

for her.

Often times adrenal problems go along with this. Deficiencies should

be looked at also, such as B12, Vit C, Ferretin, Folate. Sometimes low

iodine is a problem too. Kids with gluten problems can become

autoimmune, as can candida issues. So our doc made sure these were not

part of my daughters thyroid problem. For us I tend to think it's the

junk in the vaccines that she had. But anyway...

If the child has antibodies.then she's autoimmune and needs treatment

no matter what the labs test say. The immune system will just continue

it's assault on the thyroid until it destroys it. This can take years

but meantime, you feel bad and it can lead to a life of sickness and

infertility.

That site I mentioned tells you what the labs should look like.

The easiest way to confirm her suspicions at home is to use a glass

thermometer and take the child's temperature in the morning before

getting out of bed. Put the thermometer under arm for 10 minutes

(shake down first) then read. Write this number down. Take the temp

again in the afternoon. Do this for a week or so and see what pattern

there is. IF the waking temps are below 97.5 she is hypothyroid. The

afternoon temps should be 98.6. If not..hypothyroid. If the temps

fluctuated each morning..say: 97.2, 96.5, 96.8, 97.4...this says

adrenal problem and hypothyroid.

Based upon temps..this will confirm whether or not to pursue blood

work and a holistic physician who treats hypothyroidism. Mainstream

docs don't treat unless the labs are horrendous and the person very

sick..and then they use synthroid.

I got my ped to run the labs, but they would not treat her. Her TSH

was 3.0. Her T4 was low and she has antibodies. Our whole family, my

parents and all are autoimmune thyroid. But still..unless her labs got

bad..they wouldn't hear of it. She was tired all the time, depressed,

dry skin, eczema, hair falling out, teeth getting soft/cavities,

moody, messed up menstrual cycles...tons of symptoms. But still...they

didn't want to treat it. So I took her to a holistic doctor, who

listened to her symptoms and took one look at those labs and said...

I don't see why they wouldn't treat her..she's obviously hypothyroid

by these labs, even from a mainstream med standpoint. She also

determined that her thyroid condition had caused her to be severely

vitamin D deficient.

So she was put on Armour and vitamin D and some other supplements..and

is doing great now!

>

> My aunt is having some concerns about her NT 13 year old daughter.

She and her husband

> just thought the child had been " lazy " for a while but after doing

some online research she

> suspects thyroid issues. Is there a test you can get online to

rule out thyroid? Perhaps a

> saliva or hair test? I would appreciate advice or experiences from

anyone who has dealt with

> thyroid issues in children. Thanks so much, Vicki

>

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Thank you so much for this in-depth answer. I will pass this info on to her.

Thanks also

to all the others who responded...much appreciated!! Vicki

-- In , " Jada " <paxlforme@...> wrote:

>

> Welcome to teen thyroid 101....

> I diagnosed my 12 year old, and finally got her treated at 13 years.

> There is no hair test or saliva test that is worthwhile or accurate

> for thyroid issues. Originally we had done a saliva panel for adrenal

> and it contained thyroid hormones. It did not show her having any

> antibodies, but on blood testing she does. They have since stopped

> doing saliva thyroid levels because there seems to be a problem with

> accuracy. She can order blood work through HealthCheck USA if her

> doctor won't run it. She'd need Free T3, Free T4, TSH, and thyroid

> antibodies. Most doctors are reasonable enough to at least run basic

> thyroid labs and CBC for you. If you go in an present her symptoms and

> say you'd like to rule out thyroid and some deficiencies. Usually,

> they will do the test. They may not treat you though. IF she gets

> someone to run the test, make sure you get copies of the labs mailed

> to you. Don't just take their word on the phone that " everything is

> normal " . In range is not always normal for everyone. Mainstream docs

> don't usually consider the thyroid a problem unless TSH is 5. However,

> TSH is not a thyroid hormone, and by the time it's that high..you

> thyroid is literally not functioning anymore.

>

> I would also recommend reading up on www.stopthethyroidmadness.com so

> she knows what the labs should be, and what to do to find treatment

> for her.

>

> Often times adrenal problems go along with this. Deficiencies should

> be looked at also, such as B12, Vit C, Ferretin, Folate. Sometimes low

> iodine is a problem too. Kids with gluten problems can become

> autoimmune, as can candida issues. So our doc made sure these were not

> part of my daughters thyroid problem. For us I tend to think it's the

> junk in the vaccines that she had. But anyway...

> If the child has antibodies.then she's autoimmune and needs treatment

> no matter what the labs test say. The immune system will just continue

> it's assault on the thyroid until it destroys it. This can take years

> but meantime, you feel bad and it can lead to a life of sickness and

> infertility.

>

> That site I mentioned tells you what the labs should look like.

>

> The easiest way to confirm her suspicions at home is to use a glass

> thermometer and take the child's temperature in the morning before

> getting out of bed. Put the thermometer under arm for 10 minutes

> (shake down first) then read. Write this number down. Take the temp

> again in the afternoon. Do this for a week or so and see what pattern

> there is. IF the waking temps are below 97.5 she is hypothyroid. The

> afternoon temps should be 98.6. If not..hypothyroid. If the temps

> fluctuated each morning..say: 97.2, 96.5, 96.8, 97.4...this says

> adrenal problem and hypothyroid.

>

> Based upon temps..this will confirm whether or not to pursue blood

> work and a holistic physician who treats hypothyroidism. Mainstream

> docs don't treat unless the labs are horrendous and the person very

> sick..and then they use synthroid.

>

> I got my ped to run the labs, but they would not treat her. Her TSH

> was 3.0. Her T4 was low and she has antibodies. Our whole family, my

> parents and all are autoimmune thyroid. But still..unless her labs got

> bad..they wouldn't hear of it. She was tired all the time, depressed,

> dry skin, eczema, hair falling out, teeth getting soft/cavities,

> moody, messed up menstrual cycles...tons of symptoms. But still...they

> didn't want to treat it. So I took her to a holistic doctor, who

> listened to her symptoms and took one look at those labs and said...

> I don't see why they wouldn't treat her..she's obviously hypothyroid

> by these labs, even from a mainstream med standpoint. She also

> determined that her thyroid condition had caused her to be severely

> vitamin D deficient.

>

> So she was put on Armour and vitamin D and some other supplements..and

> is doing great now!

>

>

> >

> > My aunt is having some concerns about her NT 13 year old daughter.

> She and her husband

> > just thought the child had been " lazy " for a while but after doing

> some online research she

> > suspects thyroid issues. Is there a test you can get online to

> rule out thyroid? Perhaps a

> > saliva or hair test? I would appreciate advice or experiences from

> anyone who has dealt with

> > thyroid issues in children. Thanks so much, Vicki

> >

>