Re: Sudden loss of toileting skills

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>>That would be yeast flare up or die off in this house

Mandi in UK

My son is suddenly having accidents again after months of no

accidents. Now, we did just move about two weeks ago, but these issues

only started yesterday

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[Guest guest]

For my kids the behaviors you mentioned below indicate yeast flare-

ups. Have you tried GSE? It works wonderfully for controlling yeast.

Madhuri

>

> Greetings:

>

> My son is suddenly having accidents again after months of no

> accidents. Now, we did just move about two weeks ago, but these

issues

> only started yesterday. I'm away on a business trip right now as

well,

> though I somehow doubt it has to do with the move or with my

absence.

> My son is one of those rare spectrum kids who doesn't appear to

have a

> problem with transitions at all. I'm suspecting something

biomedical,

> though I can't imagine what the problem might be.

>

> The only change we made recently was the administration of diflucan

a

> week or two ago when we noticed his classic yeasty symptoms

reappear.

> Stools improved dramatically as a result, and are still good, so why

> are we having this dramatic setback? He's having some stimmy, hyper,

> OCD behaviors as well, so it's not just the potty accidents...

>

> I usually handle his supplements, and I left detailed instructions

for

> my spouse, who swears she's following them to the letter. While I

> obviously can't see exactly what she's doing, I have no reason to

> suspect she's doing anything that isn't exactly in line with what

I've

> been doing. She's a smart cookie who's very committed to my son's

> intervention (even more so than I, if possible).

>

> Are there any supplements that help with toileting? I'd like to be

> able to give my wife SOMETHING to go on beyond " just hang in there

> until I get back. " Any ideas?

>

> cheers,

>

[Guest guest]

i have the same issue right now with my son! how much GSE is full dose for a 120

lb son who is 13...and how long do you give it for...and then when do you add

probiotics?

From: anumandm <anumandm@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: Sudden loss of toileting skills

Date: Monday, August 11, 2008, 11:04 AM

For my kids the behaviors you mentioned below indicate yeast flare-

ups. Have you tried GSE? It works wonderfully for controlling yeast.

Madhuri

>

> Greetings:

>

> My son is suddenly having accidents again after months of no

> accidents. Now, we did just move about two weeks ago, but these

issues

> only started yesterday. I'm away on a business trip right now as

well,

> though I somehow doubt it has to do with the move or with my

absence.

> My son is one of those rare spectrum kids who doesn't appear to

have a

> problem with transitions at all. I'm suspecting something

biomedical,

> though I can't imagine what the problem might be.

>

> The only change we made recently was the administration of diflucan

a

> week or two ago when we noticed his classic yeasty symptoms

reappear.

> Stools improved dramatically as a result, and are still good, so why

> are we having this dramatic setback? He's having some stimmy, hyper,

> OCD behaviors as well, so it's not just the potty accidents...

>

> I usually handle his supplements, and I left detailed instructions

for

> my spouse, who swears she's following them to the letter. While I

> obviously can't see exactly what she's doing, I have no reason to

> suspect she's doing anything that isn't exactly in line with what

I've

> been doing. She's a smart cookie who's very committed to my son's

> intervention (even more so than I, if possible).

>

> Are there any supplements that help with toileting? I'd like to be

> able to give my wife SOMETHING to go on beyond " just hang in there

> until I get back. " Any ideas?

>

> cheers,

>

[Guest guest]

When we started Diflucan, my boys had pretty strong die off symptoms one week

into it and they lasted for several days and then wonderful improvements. 

 

So, this could be die off related.

Dana

and Garrett, just turned 4, SCD 2 years

Celiac, ASD, Speech and Motor Apraxia, sensory processing disorder

From: anumandm <anumandm@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: Sudden loss of toileting skills

Date: Monday, August 11, 2008, 11:04 AM

For my kids the behaviors you mentioned below indicate yeast flare-

ups. Have you tried GSE? It works wonderfully for controlling yeast.

Madhuri

>

> Greetings:

>

> My son is suddenly having accidents again after months of no

> accidents. Now, we did just move about two weeks ago, but these

issues

> only started yesterday. I'm away on a business trip right now as

well,

> though I somehow doubt it has to do with the move or with my

absence.

> My son is one of those rare spectrum kids who doesn't appear to

have a

> problem with transitions at all. I'm suspecting something

biomedical,

> though I can't imagine what the problem might be.

>

> The only change we made recently was the administration of diflucan

a

> week or two ago when we noticed his classic yeasty symptoms

reappear.

> Stools improved dramatically as a result, and are still good, so why

> are we having this dramatic setback? He's having some stimmy, hyper,

> OCD behaviors as well, so it's not just the potty accidents...

>

> I usually handle his supplements, and I left detailed instructions

for

> my spouse, who swears she's following them to the letter. While I

> obviously can't see exactly what she's doing, I have no reason to

> suspect she's doing anything that isn't exactly in line with what

I've

> been doing. She's a smart cookie who's very committed to my son's

> intervention (even more so than I, if possible).

>

> Are there any supplements that help with toileting? I'd like to be

> able to give my wife SOMETHING to go on beyond " just hang in there

> until I get back. " Any ideas?

>

> cheers,

>

[Guest guest]

We aren't using diflucan for yeast, but gse and I can note that my

son's toilet accidence reappear when he has gotten terribly yeasty.

> >

> > Greetings:

> >

> > My son is suddenly having accidents again after months of no

> > accidents. Now, we did just move about two weeks ago, but these

> issues

> > only started yesterday. I'm away on a business trip right now as

> well,

> > though I somehow doubt it has to do with the move or with my

> absence.

> > My son is one of those rare spectrum kids who doesn't appear to

> have a

> > problem with transitions at all. I'm suspecting something

> biomedical,

> > though I can't imagine what the problem might be.

> >

> > The only change we made recently was the administration of diflucan

> a

> > week or two ago when we noticed his classic yeasty symptoms

> reappear.

> > Stools improved dramatically as a result, and are still good, so why

> > are we having this dramatic setback? He's having some stimmy, hyper,

> > OCD behaviors as well, so it's not just the potty accidents...

> >

> > I usually handle his supplements, and I left detailed instructions

> for

> > my spouse, who swears she's following them to the letter. While I

> > obviously can't see exactly what she's doing, I have no reason to

> > suspect she's doing anything that isn't exactly in line with what

> I've

> > been doing. She's a smart cookie who's very committed to my son's

> > intervention (even more so than I, if possible).

> >

> > Are there any supplements that help with toileting? I'd like to be

> > able to give my wife SOMETHING to go on beyond " just hang in there

> > until I get back. " Any ideas?

> >

> > cheers,

> >

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[Guest guest]

Ann - I'm doing anti-virals for my oldest one(8.5 yrs), so he needs a

lot more GSE(most of the times he is not the one having toilet

accidents). For my youngest one(almost 3), I give him 6-8 drops of GSE

(Nutribiotics brand) depending on how much yeast he has and that

seems to help him. He has been toilet trained a few months ago, and I

have noticed that when his yeast flares up big time, that's when he

has the most accidents.

You may want to start very slow at 2-3 drops and see how it goes.

For my oldest one who is on a full swing anti-viral protocol, I give

him about 25 drops per dose of anti-virals every day, and even that

sometimes doesn't help.

Hope this gives you an idea!

Madhuri

>

> From: anumandm <anumandm@...>

> Subject: [ ] Re: Sudden loss of toileting skills

>

> Date: Monday, August 11, 2008, 11:04 AM

>

>

>

>

>

>

> For my kids the behaviors you mentioned below indicate yeast flare-

> ups. Have you tried GSE? It works wonderfully for controlling yeast.

>

> Madhuri

>

[Guest guest]

For my migraine girl, this is related to yeast, but also seems to be

an acid/alkaline imbalance (yeast thrives in alkaline environments,

but an alkaline environment helps with detox - a major catch 22

situation - at least that is the idea I keep in mind, hoping I have

that right ...also, this loss of toileting often coincided with

her worst migraine moments (always with increased constipation

issues). For her, celery helps immensely...Also celery/green apples

together, but we have found that just upping the celery will help her

get back to her normal toileting...as this is usually caused by a

food infraction, eliminating that food also helps. (usually

breads/sweets of some sort.)

wishing you the best answers

elizabeth

>

> Greetings:

>

> My son is suddenly having accidents again after months of no

> accidents. Now, we did just move about two weeks ago, but these

issues

> only started yesterday. I'm away on a business trip right now as

well,

> though I somehow doubt it has to do with the move or with my

absence.

> My son is one of those rare spectrum kids who doesn't appear to

have a

> problem with transitions at all. I'm suspecting something

biomedical,

> though I can't imagine what the problem might be.

>

> The only change we made recently was the administration of diflucan

a

> week or two ago when we noticed his classic yeasty symptoms

reappear.

> Stools improved dramatically as a result, and are still good, so why

> are we having this dramatic setback? He's having some stimmy, hyper,

> OCD behaviors as well, so it's not just the potty accidents...

>

> I usually handle his supplements, and I left detailed instructions

for

> my spouse, who swears she's following them to the letter. While I

> obviously can't see exactly what she's doing, I have no reason to

> suspect she's doing anything that isn't exactly in line with what

I've

> been doing. She's a smart cookie who's very committed to my son's

> intervention (even more so than I, if possible).

>

> Are there any supplements that help with toileting? I'd like to be

> able to give my wife SOMETHING to go on beyond " just hang in there

> until I get back. " Any ideas?

>

> cheers,

>

[Guest guest]

I'm adding about 10mls of fresh lemon juice to ds's sippy mug, as I thought that

yeast don't survive an alkaline environment(lemon juice, once ingested becomes

alkaline)...am I wrong in adding the lemon juice if I don't want yeast

appearing.?

Donna.

[ ] Re: Sudden loss of toileting skills

For my migraine girl, this is related to yeast, but also seems to be

an acid/alkaline imbalance (yeast thrives in alkaline environments,

but an alkaline environment helps with detox - a major catch 22

situation - at least that is the idea I keep in mind, hoping I have

that right ...also, this loss of toileting often coincided with

her worst migraine moments (always with increased constipation

issues). For her, celery helps immensely... Also celery/green apples

together, but we have found that just upping the celery will help her

get back to her normal toileting... as this is usually caused by a

food infraction, eliminating that food also helps. (usually

breads/sweets of some sort.)

wishing you the best answers

elizabeth

>

> Greetings:

>

> My son is suddenly having accidents again after months of no

> accidents. Now, we did just move about two weeks ago, but these

issues

> only started yesterday. I'm away on a business trip right now as

well,

> though I somehow doubt it has to do with the move or with my

absence.

> My son is one of those rare spectrum kids who doesn't appear to

have a

> problem with transitions at all. I'm suspecting something

biomedical,

> though I can't imagine what the problem might be.

>

> The only change we made recently was the administration of diflucan

a

> week or two ago when we noticed his classic yeasty symptoms

reappear.

> Stools improved dramatically as a result, and are still good, so why

> are we having this dramatic setback? He's having some stimmy, hyper,

> OCD behaviors as well, so it's not just the potty accidents...

>

> I usually handle his supplements, and I left detailed instructions

for

> my spouse, who swears she's following them to the letter. While I

> obviously can't see exactly what she's doing, I have no reason to

> suspect she's doing anything that isn't exactly in line with what

I've

> been doing. She's a smart cookie who's very committed to my son's

> intervention (even more so than I, if possible).

>

> Are there any supplements that help with toileting? I'd like to be

> able to give my wife SOMETHING to go on beyond " just hang in there

> until I get back. " Any ideas?

>

> cheers,

>

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[Guest guest]

Donna...I would leave in the lemon juice - is good stuff, all around.

At my house, I just try to keep a general balance going on (food/diet

wise) and " tweak " her diet when I see extreme behaviors/symptoms,

like the loss of toileting....yeast feels rather relentless

sometimes But also part & parcel of getting the crud out - I

would up probiotice, try supps, etc before I would eliminate things

like lemon juice...wishing you the best answers, elizabeth

>

> I'm adding about 10mls of fresh lemon juice to ds's sippy mug, as I

thought that yeast don't survive an alkaline environment(lemon juice,

once ingested becomes alkaline)...am I wrong in adding the lemon

juice if I don't want yeast appearing.?

> Donna.

>

>

>

> [ ] Re: Sudden loss of toileting skills

>

>

> For my migraine girl, this is related to yeast, but also seems to

be

> an acid/alkaline imbalance (yeast thrives in alkaline environments,

> but an alkaline environment helps with detox - a major catch 22

> situation - at least that is the idea I keep in mind, hoping I have

> that right ...also, this loss of toileting often coincided with

> her worst migraine moments (always with increased constipation

> issues). For her, celery helps immensely... Also celery/green

apples

> together, but we have found that just upping the celery will help

her

> get back to her normal toileting... as this is usually caused by a

> food infraction, eliminating that food also helps. (usually

> breads/sweets of some sort.)

>

> wishing you the best answers

> elizabeth

>

>