Re: Vitamin K shot - should or should not?

[Guest guest]

It is my understanding that the administration of Vitamin K began when

hospitals wanted to allow baby boys )that were to be circumcised)to go home

'before' the 8th day of birth. Usually , an infants own body begins to

manufacture

it's own vitamin K(blood clotting vitamin) but not until day 8. Years ago

mother's and infants stayed in the hospital for up to 2 weeks or more before

being released from the hospital. In 1954 my mother stayed over 2 weeks----Even

in 1970, I stayed 9 days! By that time, a baby boy could be safely

circumcised without the risk of complications from hemorrhage because by that

time the

baby boy was already producing in his own body Vitamin K and could safely be

circumcised without fearing hemorrhage.

Today, due to insurance companies(HMO's) women and infants leave within a

day or two of birthing. Everything is rush rush rush to get them out of the

hospital 'quick' so save the insurance companies money of course. As a result

circumcision takes place far too soon and baby boys would bleed to death after

routine circumcision if the hospital did not give them a shot of Vitamin K.

*Our creator again showing his wisdom in the Old Hebrew Scriptures!(I am not

Jewish but this practice centuries ago is extraordinary!!!!)

Debbie -Mom of 2 adult sons w/autism

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[Guest guest]

Has anyone looked into this hospital injection of Vitamin K? Anything else

contained in this 'routine " injection for infants? Curious....Never gave this

one much thought...

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[Guest guest]

> Now my question is, why should we give newborn Vitamin K? If most

kids are born Vitamin K deficient than isn't a normal thing? Please

advice.

Here are some sites to review

http://www.fda.gov/medwatch/SAFETY/2003/03Feb_PI/AquaMEPHYTON_PI.pdf

http://www.vaccination.inoz.com/VitaminK.html

http://www.babyreference.com/VitaminKinjectORnot.htm

Congrats on your new daughter!

Dana

[Guest guest]

Refuse it.

It's a lie.

Find a new doctor. A full term healthy infant is not a risk of

hemorrhage or brain clot. This is usually seen in mothers who used

drugs or were on anti-siezure drugs while pregnant. This shot is why

babies get jaundice.

The baby can be given oral vitamin K instead which is not toxic as is

the shot. You can find the oral vitamin K protocol online, most

midwives use this.

>

> I believe this topic has been discussed before but I need quick

suggestion/feedback. God has

> blessed us with a daughter today. She is born healthy, full-term.

Because my second son is

> in the spectrum due to all the vaccines; I refused that nothing

should be given to our

> newborn daughter including the Vitamin K shot. The hospital informed

our kids' Ped and he

> called me and was pretty pushy on giving our daughter the Vitamin K

shot. He said, every

> newborn gets it. It prevents blood clotting and brain hemorrhage. He

further went on saying

> that, if we refuse to give our daughter the Vitamin K shot, he does

not want to keep any

> working relation with us.

>

> Now my question is, why should we give newborn Vitamin K? If most

kids are born Vitamin K deficient than isn't a normal thing? Please

advice.

>

> Thanks,

>

> -TS

>

[Guest guest]

Also, the company that makes the injection has a set up agreement with

the state that the hospital receives a certain amount of money for

each shot given..and in some cases this allowed a mandate to pass for

Vitamin K injection. In my sate, you must home birth to avoid this

shot. Other states allow you to refuse it.

>

> It is my understanding that the administration of Vitamin K began when

> hospitals wanted to allow baby boys )that were to be circumcised)to

go home

> 'before' the 8th day of birth. Usually , an infants own body begins

to manufacture

> it's own vitamin K(blood clotting vitamin) but not until day 8.

Years ago

> mother's and infants stayed in the hospital for up to 2 weeks or

more before

> being released from the hospital. In 1954 my mother stayed over 2

weeks----Even

> in 1970, I stayed 9 days! By that time, a baby boy could be safely

> circumcised without the risk of complications from hemorrhage

because by that time the

> baby boy was already producing in his own body Vitamin K and could

safely be

> circumcised without fearing hemorrhage.

> Today, due to insurance companies(HMO's) women and infants leave

within a

> day or two of birthing. Everything is rush rush rush to get them out

of the

> hospital 'quick' so save the insurance companies money of course. As

a result

> circumcision takes place far too soon and baby boys would bleed to

death after

> routine circumcision if the hospital did not give them a shot of

Vitamin K.

>

>

> *Our creator again showing his wisdom in the Old Hebrew

Scriptures!(I am not

> Jewish but this practice centuries ago is extraordinary!!!!)

>

> Debbie -Mom of 2 adult sons w/autism

>

>

>

> **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for

> FanHouse Fantasy Football today.

> (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020)

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

God did not make babies vitamin K deficient. Your right. What it is,

is some scientist decided to test infants Vitamin K levels back in the

day and found that they are lower than other people. This does not

make them " deficient " . It just means they need lower amounts than we

do. As I understood it, they are supposed to get what they need from

breastmilk. The mom gives them the K they need until their body is

ready to process K and make K in any significant amount. Formula also

has K in it. So where's the problem?

The liver has problems processing too much K in infancy. The reason

that jaundice is so widespread now, because we give babies high doses

of synthetic K by injection. Jaundice in infants was unheard of before

the practice of giving every baby a shot. I think the shots should be

reserved for high risk infants, such as those whose mothers' used

street drugs or took seizure medication. And even then...there is no

reason OTHER than money, why we can't use natural vitamin K orally.

I think if I remember right when I researched this for my sister last

year....in Europe they use oral natural vitamin K for infants. The

practice of " needing K " is an old school idea formed in the 50's that

needs to be re-examined.

> > Now my question is, why should we give newborn Vitamin K? If most

> kids are born Vitamin K deficient than isn't a normal thing? Please

> advice.

>

>

> Here are some sites to review

>

> http://www.fda.gov/medwatch/SAFETY/2003/03Feb_PI/AquaMEPHYTON_PI.pdf

>

> http://www.vaccination.inoz.com/VitaminK.html

>

> http://www.babyreference.com/VitaminKinjectORnot.htm

>

> Congrats on your new daughter!

>

> Dana

>

[Guest guest]

> the practice of giving every baby a shot. I think the shots should be

> reserved for high risk infants, such as those whose mothers' used

> street drugs or took seizure medication. And even then...there is no

One other thing to consider- in addition to street drugs and seizure meds,

you might want to consider an oral K instead of the injection if your child

had a very difficult birth, such as vacuum extraction or shoulder dystocia,

as they greatly increase the risk for intracranial bleeds. I had a

homebirth with my son, who had dystocia, and due to the risks of bleeding

from that we opted to go ahead with the oral K.

KerryAnn

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[Guest guest]

Wow, think your pediatrician is a bully now? Just wait for the vaccine

conversations!

Don't give the shot, find a new pediatrician.

From: [mailto: ]

On Behalf Of Jada

Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 12:19 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: Vitamin K shot - should or should not?

Refuse it.

It's a lie.

Find a new doctor. A full term healthy infant is not a risk of

hemorrhage or brain clot. This is usually seen in mothers who used

drugs or were on anti-siezure drugs while pregnant. This shot is why

babies get jaundice.

The baby can be given oral vitamin K instead which is not toxic as is

the shot. You can find the oral vitamin K protocol online, most

midwives use this.

>

> I believe this topic has been discussed before but I need quick

suggestion/feedback. God has

> blessed us with a daughter today. She is born healthy, full-term.

Because my second son is

> in the spectrum due to all the vaccines; I refused that nothing

should be given to our

> newborn daughter including the Vitamin K shot. The hospital informed

our kids' Ped and he

> called me and was pretty pushy on giving our daughter the Vitamin K

shot. He said, every

> newborn gets it. It prevents blood clotting and brain hemorrhage. He

further went on saying

> that, if we refuse to give our daughter the Vitamin K shot, he does

not want to keep any

> working relation with us.

>

> Now my question is, why should we give newborn Vitamin K? If most

kids are born Vitamin K deficient than isn't a normal thing? Please

advice.

>

> Thanks,

>

> -TS

>

[Guest guest]

I did. It does not contain any metals, but it does contain alcohol if

you don't mind a drunk baby!

It's synthetic K with benzyl alcohol and sugar.

The risks of anaphalaxyis and death are clearly listed.

This may explain why some seemingly healthy babies die mysterious

shortly after birth and no one knows why. In my state they mandate

that this injection be given within an hour of birth. Jaundice is the

result if the dose is too high.

Insert Information:

http://vaccinetruth.org/page_7.htm

>

> Has anyone looked into this hospital injection of Vitamin K?

Anything else

> contained in this 'routine " injection for infants? Curious....Never

gave this

> one much thought...

>

> Debbie

>

>

>

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>

[Guest guest]

-You're RIGHT!!

Awesome!

Hope

-- In , gieshouse50@... wrote:

>

> It is my understanding that the administration of Vitamin K began

when

> hospitals wanted to allow baby boys )that were to be circumcised)to

go home

> 'before' the 8th day of birth. Usually , an infants own body begins

to manufacture

> it's own vitamin K(blood clotting vitamin) but not until day 8.

Years ago

> mother's and infants stayed in the hospital for up to 2 weeks or

more before

> being released from the hospital. In 1954 my mother stayed over 2

weeks----Even

> in 1970, I stayed 9 days! By that time, a baby boy could be safely

> circumcised without the risk of complications from hemorrhage

because by that time the

> baby boy was already producing in his own body Vitamin K and could

safely be

> circumcised without fearing hemorrhage.

> Today, due to insurance companies(HMO's) women and infants leave

within a

> day or two of birthing. Everything is rush rush rush to get them

out of the

> hospital 'quick' so save the insurance companies money of course.

As a result

> circumcision takes place far too soon and baby boys would bleed to

death after

> routine circumcision if the hospital did not give them a shot of

Vitamin K.

>

>

> *Our creator again showing his wisdom in the Old Hebrew Scriptures!

(I am not

> Jewish but this practice centuries ago is extraordinary!!!!)

>

> Debbie -Mom of 2 adult sons w/autism

>

>

>

> **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up

for

> FanHouse Fantasy Football today.

> (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020)

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you everyone for your prompt feedback/suggestion and information links.

They

really helped. We are back home from the hospital and were successful in

avoiding both

the Vitamin K and hepatitis shot. Our kids Ped showed in the hospital the next

morning

and was telling my wife how dangerous it is not to give the vitamin K shot, blah

blah...

Reading through the useful links that you guys sent me. I can now say that

Vitamin K shot

is a waste. That rare bleeding occurs in 1 in a million babies and who knows

that baby had

some other health issues not just vitamin K deficiency. If all babies born have

low vitamin

K (as compared to what?) than it means God has made it that way. Furthermore,

formula

milk has vitamin K in it, so the baby will get it orally anyway. Why inject a

booster K shot

with preservatives? And of course there are side affects as well for taking that

shot, which

the doctors do not tell.

This is our 3rd child. Our first two son had taken full vaccination. Our first

son, 6, though

his speech was delayed but he recovered on his own and is a smart boy. Our

second son,

4, unfortunately got Mercury toxic and we are chelating him under AC protocol.

We hope

that he recovers soon. We also hope our newborn daughter will be the healthiest

kid of

ours. No vaccine for her till the age of 2!

Thank you,

-TS

> >

> > Has anyone looked into this hospital injection of Vitamin K?

> Anything else

> > contained in this 'routine " injection for infants? Curious....Never

> gave this

> > one much thought...

> >

> > Debbie

> >

> >

> >

> > **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for

> > FanHouse Fantasy Football today.

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> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I would wait longer than that?! When/if you begin, only one vaccine at a time!

[ ] Re: Vitamin K shot - should or should not?

Thank you everyone for your prompt feedback/suggestion and information links.

They

really helped. We are back home from the hospital and were successful in

avoiding both

the Vitamin K and hepatitis shot. Our kids Ped showed in the hospital the next

morning

and was telling my wife how dangerous it is not to give the vitamin K shot, blah

blah...

Reading through the useful links that you guys sent me. I can now say that

Vitamin K shot

is a waste. That rare bleeding occurs in 1 in a million babies and who knows

that baby had

some other health issues not just vitamin K deficiency. If all babies born have

low vitamin

K (as compared to what?) than it means God has made it that way. Furthermore,

formula

milk has vitamin K in it, so the baby will get it orally anyway. Why inject a

booster K shot

with preservatives? And of course there are side affects as well for taking that

shot, which

the doctors do not tell.

This is our 3rd child. Our first two son had taken full vaccination. Our first

son, 6, though

his speech was delayed but he recovered on his own and is a smart boy. Our

second son,

4, unfortunately got Mercury toxic and we are chelating him under AC protocol.

We hope

that he recovers soon. We also hope our newborn daughter will be the healthiest

kid of

ours. No vaccine for her till the age of 2!

Thank you,

-TS

> >

> > Has anyone looked into this hospital injection of Vitamin K?

> Anything else

> > contained in this 'routine " injection for infants? Curious....Never

> gave this

> > one much thought...

> >

> > Debbie

> >

> >

> >

> > **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for

> > FanHouse Fantasy Football today.

> > (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020)

> >

> >

> >