Guest guest Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Hi KM, It's likely that he is a special needs kid judging from the things he enjoys doing eg. turning on off TV repeatedly etc...something that my son still enjoys doing even at the age of 3+. The first thing i would do is get a hair test done. It is highly likely that he has heavy metal toxins in the body. Get to know what it is so you can decide which chelation protocol to use. Kids with high mercury level in the body tend to have yeast infection too. How is his stool like? If he constantly gets loose stool or constipation, that could be sign he has candidasis (yeast infection). If he has, than you would have to arrest it by giving probiotics, antifungal drugs or natural remedies (see www.yeastinfectionadvisor.com for more info on yeast management). Read up about Andy Culter Protocol (you can find it under 'File'), it is a well followed chelation protocol considered safe by many parents here. Hope this helps. Keep asking questions and I am sure all would be happy to share their experiences. Priscilla On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 5:51 PM, hezekiah2110 <murayac@...> wrote: > Since one week ago, I have had strong suspicion that our 21 month old > son has autism. His development has been as follows: > - has been walking since 11 months > - still does not say any words > - does not like to play with toys very much, some of the time, he > throws them > - does not play peek-a-boo, i.e. covering eyes > - he is hyperactive (seemed to have reduced when we stopped > milk/wheat products a day ago) > - if called up to ten times, he will only respond 2 times on average > - does not seem to recognize his name when called > - does not like playing with other children > - appears sensitive to bright light (closes eyes in anticipation of > camera flash) > - on a number of occasions, developed unexplained limp at around 18 > months, stopped after we disallowed him to go up and down stairs, > which he loved > - does not make much eye contact, does it only about 30% of the time > - when drilling was being done in our house, he was very scared > - switches TV on/off so many times, at time laughing for no apparent > reason in the process. Also fond of turning up TV volume to maximum. > - Since developing diarrhea a few days ago, he seems to be more > irritable. > > At six months, our son had Kawasaki's disease and was hospitalized > for 10 days. He was treated with gamma globulin. > > My wife has had several silver amalgam fillings for more than ten > years. She nursed our son for 20 months, during which period she > removed some of the fillings. > > We took our son to a pediatrician yesterday and he agreed it could be > autism, but said further screening is needed. We live in Cambodia and > may have to travel to Thailand for any further tests. > > I have read a lot on the internet but I am not sure how to proceed. > Help for such a condition is very limited in Cambodia. What are the > risks in following dietary and chelation guidelines available on a > number of good websites, without a doctor's supervision? > > Thank you. > KM > > > -- Priscilla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 > I have read a lot on the internet but I am not sure how to proceed. > Help for such a condition is very limited in Cambodia. What are the > risks in following dietary and chelation guidelines available on a > number of good websites, without a doctor's supervision? My son is about 95% recovered, all without a doctor. You can read his story here http://www.danasview.net/myson.htm Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 KM, Lots of people do much of the work to recover their kids on their own. I have used doctors, but only to order tests that I wanted and write Rx's that I wanted. I listen to/read what a number of people have to say and then make the decisions myself. It does sound like your son is struggling a great deal, even if it doesn't turn out to meet the criteria for autism. I personally would not wait (as it seems you haven't) to start trying to help. There are risks in everything we do, including doing nothing. If you read as much as you can and get help from as many different sources as you can, you'll be well informed and able to make careful decisions for your child. My experience has been that the Cutler protocol is in fact very low risk. My ASD son has done over 100 rounds and is far healthier than he was when we started. I have done about 25 rounds on myself--I did learn a lesson that using too big of a dose and not supplementing properly made chelation feel pretty awful for me. Anita - In , " hezekiah2110 " <murayac@...> wrote: > > Since one week ago, I have had strong suspicion that our 21 month old > son has autism. His development has been as follows: > - has been walking since 11 months > - still does not say any words > - does not like to play with toys very much, some of the time, he > throws them > - does not play peek-a-boo, i.e. covering eyes > - he is hyperactive (seemed to have reduced when we stopped > milk/wheat products a day ago) > - if called up to ten times, he will only respond 2 times on average > - does not seem to recognize his name when called > - does not like playing with other children > - appears sensitive to bright light (closes eyes in anticipation of > camera flash) > - on a number of occasions, developed unexplained limp at around 18 > months, stopped after we disallowed him to go up and down stairs, > which he loved > - does not make much eye contact, does it only about 30% of the time > - when drilling was being done in our house, he was very scared > - switches TV on/off so many times, at time laughing for no apparent > reason in the process. Also fond of turning up TV volume to maximum. > - Since developing diarrhea a few days ago, he seems to be more > irritable. > > At six months, our son had Kawasaki's disease and was hospitalized > for 10 days. He was treated with gamma globulin. > > My wife has had several silver amalgam fillings for more than ten > years. She nursed our son for 20 months, during which period she > removed some of the fillings. > > We took our son to a pediatrician yesterday and he agreed it could be > autism, but said further screening is needed. We live in Cambodia and > may have to travel to Thailand for any further tests. > > I have read a lot on the internet but I am not sure how to proceed. > Help for such a condition is very limited in Cambodia. What are the > risks in following dietary and chelation guidelines available on a > number of good websites, without a doctor's supervision? > > Thank you. > KM > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Thank you Priscilla. I have located and read Andy's protocol. I would like to do a hair elements analysis test before considering the chelation. Would you know of a lab that provides the hair test for heavy metals in Asia? KM > > > Since one week ago, I have had strong suspicion that our 21 month old > > son has autism. His development has been as follows: > > - has been walking since 11 months > > - still does not say any words > > - does not like to play with toys very much, some of the time, he > > throws them > > - does not play peek-a-boo, i.e. covering eyes > > - he is hyperactive (seemed to have reduced when we stopped > > milk/wheat products a day ago) > > - if called up to ten times, he will only respond 2 times on average > > - does not seem to recognize his name when called > > - does not like playing with other children > > - appears sensitive to bright light (closes eyes in anticipation of > > camera flash) > > - on a number of occasions, developed unexplained limp at around 18 > > months, stopped after we disallowed him to go up and down stairs, > > which he loved > > - does not make much eye contact, does it only about 30% of the time > > - when drilling was being done in our house, he was very scared > > - switches TV on/off so many times, at time laughing for no apparent > > reason in the process. Also fond of turning up TV volume to maximum. > > - Since developing diarrhea a few days ago, he seems to be more > > irritable. > > > > At six months, our son had Kawasaki's disease and was hospitalized > > for 10 days. He was treated with gamma globulin. > > > > My wife has had several silver amalgam fillings for more than ten > > years. She nursed our son for 20 months, during which period she > > removed some of the fillings. > > > > We took our son to a pediatrician yesterday and he agreed it could be > > autism, but said further screening is needed. We live in Cambodia and > > may have to travel to Thailand for any further tests. > > > > I have read a lot on the internet but I am not sure how to proceed. > > Help for such a condition is very limited in Cambodia. What are the > > risks in following dietary and chelation guidelines available on a > > number of good websites, without a doctor's supervision? > > > > Thank you. > > KM > > > > > > > > > > -- > Priscilla > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Hi KM, Welcome to the list, sorry to hear of the circumstances which bring you hear. You're in the right place. More comments interspersed. S S Autism suspicion Posted by: " murayac " murayac@... murayac Sun Jan 11, 2009 1:34 am (PST) Since one week ago, I have had strong suspicion that our 21 year old son has autism. His development has been as follows: - has been walking since 11 months - still does not say any words *Does he point or pull/lead you to what he wants? Consider beginning to teach him some sign language. - does not like to play with toys very much, some of the time, he throws them - does not play peek-a-boo, i.e. covering eyes - he is hyperactive (seemed to have reduced when we stopped milk/wheat products a day ago) *Good move! Consider removing all gluten (wheat, oats, barley, rye, spelt) products. - if called up to ten times, he will only respond 2 times on average - does not seem to recognize his name when called *Does he seem to understand other things you say? - does not like playing with other children - appears sensitive to bright light (closes eyes in anticipation of camera flash) - on a number of occasions, developed unexplained limp at around 18 months, stopped after we disallowed him to go up and down stairs, which he loved - does not make much eye contact, does it only about 30% of the time - when drilling was being done in our house, he was very scared *Is he hypersensitive to other noises? - switches TV on/off so many times, at time laughing for no apparent reason in the process. Also fond of turning up TV volume to maximum. - Since developing diarrhea a few days ago, he seems to be more irritable. At six months, our son had Kawasaki's disease and was hospitalized for 10 days. He was treated with gamma globulin. *What vaccines did he have just before that? Do you have a way to find out is the gamma globulin contained thimerosal? My wife has had several silver amalgam fillings for more than ten years. She nursed our son for 20 months, during which period she removed some of the fillings. Yikes! We took our son to a pediatrician yesterday and he agreed it could be autism, but said further screening is needed. We live in Cambodia and may have to travel to Thailand for any further tests. I have read a lot on the internet but I am not sure how to proceed. Help for such a condition is very limited in Cambodia. What are the risks in following dietary and chelation guidelines available on a number of good websites, without a doctor's supervision? Many here on this list chelate without a doc. See if you can order a DDI (Doctor's Data, Inc, hair elements test through DLS (Direct Lab Services). If you mention this list they'll give you a discount. Once you get the results we can help apply the counting rules. See if you can find out whether oral DMSA and ALA are available without a prescription in Cambodia. Seriously consider avoiding further vaccines. What part of Cambodia are you in? Thank you. KM ------------------------------------------------------------ Teaching Degree Find the right teaching school to meet your educational needs. Click to learn more. http://tagline.excite.com/fc/BK72PcZbHFHN39fe7v4cv4c11uyxzgIWOcw1cxLx0LnKCc7hGT1\ d40/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Hi KM, I am located in Singapore. I use the services provided by spectrum learning. However, I know they send the hair sample to the USA to this lab called Trace Element Inc (http://www.lements.com/) Try writing to them to see if you can get the hair test kit and send samples of your child's hair to them. Another lab is Doctor's Data Inc, I believe many parents here use this lab ...google for it...use which ever that is easier for you. Once you get the hair report, you can post it here for fellow parents to help you interpret if you need further help. All the best. Priscilla On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 1:21 AM, hezekiah2110 <murayac@...> wrote: > Thank you Priscilla. I have located and read Andy's protocol. I would > like to do a hair elements analysis test before considering the > chelation. > > Would you know of a lab that provides the hair test for heavy metals > in Asia? > > KM > > > > > > > Since one week ago, I have had strong suspicion that our 21 > month old > > > son has autism. His development has been as follows: > > > - has been walking since 11 months > > > - still does not say any words > > > - does not like to play with toys very much, some of the time, he > > > throws them > > > - does not play peek-a-boo, i.e. covering eyes > > > - he is hyperactive (seemed to have reduced when we stopped > > > milk/wheat products a day ago) > > > - if called up to ten times, he will only respond 2 times on > average > > > - does not seem to recognize his name when called > > > - does not like playing with other children > > > - appears sensitive to bright light (closes eyes in anticipation > of > > > camera flash) > > > - on a number of occasions, developed unexplained limp at around > 18 > > > months, stopped after we disallowed him to go up and down stairs, > > > which he loved > > > - does not make much eye contact, does it only about 30% of the > time > > > - when drilling was being done in our house, he was very scared > > > - switches TV on/off so many times, at time laughing for no > apparent > > > reason in the process. Also fond of turning up TV volume to > maximum. > > > - Since developing diarrhea a few days ago, he seems to be more > > > irritable. > > > > > > At six months, our son had Kawasaki's disease and was hospitalized > > > for 10 days. He was treated with gamma globulin. > > > > > > My wife has had several silver amalgam fillings for more than ten > > > years. She nursed our son for 20 months, during which period she > > > removed some of the fillings. > > > > > > We took our son to a pediatrician yesterday and he agreed it > could be > > > autism, but said further screening is needed. We live in Cambodia > and > > > may have to travel to Thailand for any further tests. > > > > > > I have read a lot on the internet but I am not sure how to > proceed. > > > Help for such a condition is very limited in Cambodia. What are > the > > > risks in following dietary and chelation guidelines available on a > > > number of good websites, without a doctor's supervision? > > > > > > Thank you. > > > KM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Priscilla > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Thanks for the suggestions. > *Does he point or pull/lead you to what he wants? Consider beginning to teach him some sign language. Our son pulls us to what he wants. He never points. > *Does he seem to understand other things you say? He does not seem to understand much of what we say. For example if I tell him " lets go " , he will not do anything until I leave him, then he follows. > *Is he hypersensitive to other noises? No. Other noises do not bother him. He can create unbearable noise (that we cannot stand) dragging toys on the floor and not be bothered. > *What vaccines did he have just before that? Do you have a way to find out is the gamma globulin contained thimerosal? He had a vaccine about 3 weeks before. I will confirm which one. I do not know if the gamma globulin had thimerosal. > > Hi KM, > Welcome to the list, sorry to hear of the circumstances which bring you hear. You're in the right place. More comments interspersed. > S S > > > Autism suspicion > Posted by: " murayac " murayac@... murayac > Sun Jan 11, 2009 1:34 am (PST) > Since one week ago, I have had strong suspicion that our 21 year old > son has autism. His development has been as follows: > - has been walking since 11 months > - still does not say any words > > *Does he point or pull/lead you to what he wants? Consider beginning to teach him some sign language. > > - does not like to play with toys very much, some of the time, he > throws them > - does not play peek-a-boo, i.e. covering eyes > - he is hyperactive (seemed to have reduced when we stopped > milk/wheat products a day ago) > > *Good move! Consider removing all gluten (wheat, oats, barley, rye, spelt) products. > > - if called up to ten times, he will only respond 2 times on average > - does not seem to recognize his name when called > > *Does he seem to understand other things you say? > > - does not like playing with other children > - appears sensitive to bright light (closes eyes in anticipation of > camera flash) > - on a number of occasions, developed unexplained limp at around 18 > months, stopped after we disallowed him to go up and down stairs, > which he loved > - does not make much eye contact, does it only about 30% of the time > - when drilling was being done in our house, he was very scared > > *Is he hypersensitive to other noises? > > - switches TV on/off so many times, at time laughing for no apparent > reason in the process. Also fond of turning up TV volume to maximum. > - Since developing diarrhea a few days ago, he seems to be more > irritable. > > At six months, our son had Kawasaki's disease and was hospitalized > for 10 days. He was treated with gamma globulin. > > *What vaccines did he have just before that? Do you have a way to find out is the gamma globulin contained thimerosal? > > My wife has had several silver amalgam fillings for more than ten > years. She nursed our son for 20 months, during which period she > removed some of the fillings. > > Yikes! > > We took our son to a pediatrician yesterday and he agreed it could be > autism, but said further screening is needed. We live in Cambodia and > may have to travel to Thailand for any further tests. > > I have read a lot on the internet but I am not sure how to proceed. > Help for such a condition is very limited in Cambodia. What are the > risks in following dietary and chelation guidelines available on a > number of good websites, without a doctor's supervision? > > Many here on this list chelate without a doc. See if you can order a DDI (Doctor's Data, Inc, hair elements test through DLS (Direct Lab Services). If you mention this list they'll give you a discount. Once you get the results we can help apply the counting rules. See if you can find out whether oral DMSA and ALA are available without a prescription in Cambodia. Seriously consider avoiding further vaccines. What part of Cambodia are you in? > > Thank you. > KM > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Teaching Degree > Find the right teaching school to meet your educational needs. Click to learn more. > http://tagline.excite.com/fc/BK72PcZbHFHN39fe7v4cv4c11uyxzgIWOcw1cxLx0 LnKCc7hGT1d40/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 You can order Dr. Cutler's book called Amalgam Illness and I beleive he does ship it overseas. This has a lot of information on chelation and what to do with mercury poisoning. You can learn most or all of what you need on this group. Just from your description...I agree that something is wrong. And you're in the right place to help your son. He is young and recovery rates are good when treatment is begun early. Do not give any vaccines or give him fish/seafood. These are sources of heavy metals and toxins that can make his condition worse. There are no risks in following dietary changes for our children. There are no risks for giving vitamins and minerals on reasonable doses. This is also done with a try one thing at a time approach to see that the child tolerates that supplement. With chelation, following the low dose oral protocol by Andy Cutler seems to be of very low risks. This is what we use and we do not use a doctor. My son has done 55 rounds of chelation. The only issues we have seen is yeast, which we treat. If his protocol is followed using the vitamins/minerals and such as he recommends...most children do very well. The risky protocols involve high doses and IV chelation. Those we don't recommend at all. We give the vitamins and minerals that he recommends for chelation. At this time, work on getting a hair test for your child. Although with the history of mom nursing and having amalgams removed while nursing...this would have given him mercury as well as any vaccines. But it's good to see what is going on for sure by doing a hair test. sometimes children are toxic in more than one metal. The treatment will be the same. Read the files section about supplements and chelation. While waiting for the hair test, there are many thing that can be done. One you already began, that is to eliminate gluten and casein from his diet if you feel he reacts badly to it. For some children it's only the gluten, for some it's just milk. For some...it's many foods. I am unsure of the foods normally consumed in Cambodia but avoid processed foods, food colorings, and preservatives if those were part of his diet. Then you can begin to choose a good quality multivitamin product for him (Kirkman Labs is one to look at. They have many different products on the internet). Next would be probiotics for his gut. Once you have that in place...the next steps can move forward and you may have his hair test by that time. Glad you found us! Post the results when you get them. Ask questions..we are here to help! > > Since one week ago, I have had strong suspicion that our 21 month old > son has autism. His development has been as follows: > - has been walking since 11 months > - still does not say any words > - does not like to play with toys very much, some of the time, he > throws them > - does not play peek-a-boo, i.e. covering eyes > - he is hyperactive (seemed to have reduced when we stopped > milk/wheat products a day ago) > - if called up to ten times, he will only respond 2 times on average > - does not seem to recognize his name when called > - does not like playing with other children > - appears sensitive to bright light (closes eyes in anticipation of > camera flash) > - on a number of occasions, developed unexplained limp at around 18 > months, stopped after we disallowed him to go up and down stairs, > which he loved > - does not make much eye contact, does it only about 30% of the time > - when drilling was being done in our house, he was very scared > - switches TV on/off so many times, at time laughing for no apparent > reason in the process. Also fond of turning up TV volume to maximum. > - Since developing diarrhea a few days ago, he seems to be more > irritable. > > At six months, our son had Kawasaki's disease and was hospitalized > for 10 days. He was treated with gamma globulin. > > My wife has had several silver amalgam fillings for more than ten > years. She nursed our son for 20 months, during which period she > removed some of the fillings. > > We took our son to a pediatrician yesterday and he agreed it could be > autism, but said further screening is needed. We live in Cambodia and > may have to travel to Thailand for any further tests. > > I have read a lot on the internet but I am not sure how to proceed. > Help for such a condition is very limited in Cambodia. What are the > risks in following dietary and chelation guidelines available on a > number of good websites, without a doctor's supervision? > > Thank you. > KM > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 The counting rules are specific to DDI hair elements test. S S Re: Autism suspicion Posted by: " hezekiah2110 " murayac@... hezekiah2110 Sun Jan 11, 2009 9:21 am (PST) Thank you Priscilla. I have located and read Andy's protocol. I would like to do a hair elements analysis test before considering the chelation. Would you know of a lab that provides the hair test for heavy metals in Asia? KM ------------------------------------------------------------ Countertops High quality, custom countertops at bargain prices. Click Now! http://tagline.excite.com/fc/BK72PcZZ5Mk1IZBUbl0B9EJR1C2Pe7CbZciAFG0st3isetqcWph\ h3i/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Thank you very much Jan for all the good suggestions. I will followup on them and keep everyone posted. > > > > Since one week ago, I have had strong suspicion that our 21 month old > > son has autism. His development has been as follows: > > - has been walking since 11 months > > - still does not say any words > > - does not like to play with toys very much, some of the time, he > > throws them > > - does not play peek-a-boo, i.e. covering eyes > > - he is hyperactive (seemed to have reduced when we stopped > > milk/wheat products a day ago) > > - if called up to ten times, he will only respond 2 times on average > > - does not seem to recognize his name when called > > - does not like playing with other children > > - appears sensitive to bright light (closes eyes in anticipation of > > camera flash) > > - on a number of occasions, developed unexplained limp at around 18 > > months, stopped after we disallowed him to go up and down stairs, > > which he loved > > - does not make much eye contact, does it only about 30% of the time > > - when drilling was being done in our house, he was very scared > > - switches TV on/off so many times, at time laughing for no apparent > > reason in the process. Also fond of turning up TV volume to maximum. > > - Since developing diarrhea a few days ago, he seems to be more > > irritable. > > > > At six months, our son had Kawasaki's disease and was hospitalized > > for 10 days. He was treated with gamma globulin. > > > > My wife has had several silver amalgam fillings for more than ten > > years. She nursed our son for 20 months, during which period she > > removed some of the fillings. > > > > We took our son to a pediatrician yesterday and he agreed it could be > > autism, but said further screening is needed. We live in Cambodia and > > may have to travel to Thailand for any further tests. > > > > I have read a lot on the internet but I am not sure how to proceed. > > Help for such a condition is very limited in Cambodia. What are the > > risks in following dietary and chelation guidelines available on a > > number of good websites, without a doctor's supervision? > > > > Thank you. > > KM > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Here is an autism checklist too because it not only lists both normal expected development, on the other column it also lists some of the (possible) early warning signs of autism and/or other neurological damage. (http://www.recoveredfromautism.com/images/ASD%20warning%20signs.pdf) best, Liora Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 There's also the ATEC on Autism Research Institute's website. S S Re: Autism suspicion Posted by: " lioracc " lioracc@... lioracc Mon Jan 12, 2009 11:33 pm (PST) Here is an autism checklist too because it not only lists both normal expected development, on the other column it also lists some of the (possible) early warning signs of autism and/or other neurological damage. (http://www.recoveredfromautism.com/images/ASD%20warning%20signs.pdf) best, Liora ------------------------------------------------------------ Accredited Degree Programs Find the right degree program for you. Click here to find affordable and flexible options. http://tagline.excite.com/fc/BK72PcZZgSPYJS7aAYCsMT5Oh5Q2UFx8WxEQA8uu1U4el0A1CjS\ uis/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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