Re: REAACH fwd:OH station drops Savage Nation/Imus

[Guest guest]

Weren't we all commenting that Don Imus should not be fired when he

opened his yapper inapropriately?

I think Mike Savage is a dick, but I don't think he deserves to lose

his job. I'd love to see sponsors pull out, though.

Pam

> >

> > > The talk-show host last week described autism as a racket and

said 99

> > > percent of autistic children needed fathers to tell them to

stop

> acting

> > > " like a moron. ...

> >

> > I hope this doesn't upset people too much, but I think it is

relevant.

> >

> > Talk show hosts basically get paid to act like @$$#0(3$.

> >

> > They tend to be socially conservative, and thus to have

excessive

> deference to authority to

> > the point of practically being feudal. At least authorities

THEY like.

> >

> > So here we have someone who believes what government certified

> authorities say as

> > gospel truth, trying to find some way to be a flaming @$$#0(3

on the

> air.

> >

> > What does he K N O W (as God given truth revealed unto him by

> priests in white lab coats)?

> >

> > 1. Autism is genetic.

> >

> > 2. The rate at which autism has been diagnosed went up 100 fold

in

> the last 20 years.

> >

> > Since GOD told him these things (and unfortunately he doesn't

take

> anything like Risperdal

> > to stop GOD from talking to him), there is only one other

possible

> conclusion:

> >

> > 99% of the diagnoses must be nonsense, or at least not genetic!

> >

> > And of course D O C T O R S have P R O V E N that doctors don't

have

> anything to do with

> > causing autism (through vaccines), so what choice is left?

> >

> > Back to blaming the parents. And for a professional @$$#0(3 who

is

> talking to evil hateful

> > spiteful people that is a great choice. NIcely inflammatory and

it

> provides someone to

> > complain about and criticize.

> >

> > So this makes some sense, and in his own twisted way they guy is

> thinking - at least as

> > much as his seething emotions will let him.

> >

> > Why not challenge him and his sponsors to talk about the OTHER

> possible theories as to

> > what might have caused a 100 fold increase in autism?

> >

> > Really I have no love lost for either the general talk show

milieu

> or for the modern social

> > conservative movement, so the more you can torment Mr. Savage,

the

> better. However

> > there is both an interesting lesson here in that even an @$$#0(3

> like him appears to be

> > thinking about the fact that something is wrong with the picture

> here and in that we're

> > moving back to blaming the parents - one of Bernie Rimland's

great

> contributions to

> > autism was to exterminate the " refrigerator mother " hypothesis.

> >

> > Andy

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

----- Original Message -----

From: noaholiviaian

Weren't we all commenting that Don Imus should not be fired when he

opened his yapper inapropriately?

I think Mike Savage is a dick, but I don't think he deserves to lose

his job. I'd love to see sponsors pull out, though.

====>Pam, I didn't give an opinion as to whether he should or should not be

fired, I was just speaking about his ignorant comments concerning Autism,

something he didn't know enough about to speak of.

And I really get peeved when people think I was offended because the media

told me to get upset. I listen to him on my way home from my office each day in

the car and I really always liked him, but I was offended immediately by his

comments.

And it further makes me angry when someone who isn't involved in anyway with

Autism, just makes money from it, tells me that I shouldn't be offended or that

I'm only offended because I didn't hear it personally, or am just a leming

following what the media tells me to do.

Pam

> >

> > > The talk-show host last week described autism as a racket and

said 99

> > > percent of autistic children needed fathers to tell them to

stop

> acting

> > > " like a moron. ...

> >

> > I hope this doesn't upset people too much, but I think it is

relevant.

> >

> > Talk show hosts basically get paid to act like @$$#0(3$.

> >

> > They tend to be socially conservative, and thus to have

excessive

> deference to authority to

> > the point of practically being feudal. At least authorities

THEY like.

> >

> > So here we have someone who believes what government certified

> authorities say as

> > gospel truth, trying to find some way to be a flaming @$$#0(3

on the

> air.

> >

> > What does he K N O W (as God given truth revealed unto him by

> priests in white lab coats)?

> >

> > 1. Autism is genetic.

> >

> > 2. The rate at which autism has been diagnosed went up 100 fold

in

> the last 20 years.

> >

> > Since GOD told him these things (and unfortunately he doesn't

take

> anything like Risperdal

> > to stop GOD from talking to him), there is only one other

possible

> conclusion:

> >

> > 99% of the diagnoses must be nonsense, or at least not genetic!

> >

> > And of course D O C T O R S have P R O V E N that doctors don't

have

> anything to do with

> > causing autism (through vaccines), so what choice is left?

> >

> > Back to blaming the parents. And for a professional @$$#0(3 who

is

> talking to evil hateful

> > spiteful people that is a great choice. NIcely inflammatory and

it

> provides someone to

> > complain about and criticize.

> >

> > So this makes some sense, and in his own twisted way they guy is

> thinking - at least as

> > much as his seething emotions will let him.

> >

> > Why not challenge him and his sponsors to talk about the OTHER

> possible theories as to

> > what might have caused a 100 fold increase in autism?

> >

> > Really I have no love lost for either the general talk show

milieu

> or for the modern social

> > conservative movement, so the more you can torment Mr. Savage,

the

> better. However

> > there is both an interesting lesson here in that even an @$$#0(3

> like him appears to be

> > thinking about the fact that something is wrong with the picture

> here and in that we're

> > moving back to blaming the parents - one of Bernie Rimland's

great

> contributions to

> > autism was to exterminate the " refrigerator mother " hypothesis.

> >

> > Andy

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

My comment wasn't directed personally to you, , but more to

the group. I remember a lot of talk about how Don Imus was getting a

raw deal, that he was a good man who sometimes spoke without

thinking, that we needed to rally around him, etc. Now, some of

those same people are likely asking for Savage to lose his job.

Even I find myself trying to rationalize. When the words are

directed to your life, it is much more offensive than trying to

imagine what it would feel like (I am white, so what Imus said was

offensive but not personal). I wouldn't lose sleep if Mike Savage

was out of work.

Sorry about the misleading message!

Pam

> > >

> > > > The talk-show host last week described autism as a racket

and

> said 99

> > > > percent of autistic children needed fathers to tell them to

> stop

> > acting

> > > > " like a moron. ...

> > >

> > > I hope this doesn't upset people too much, but I think it is

> relevant.

> > >

> > > Talk show hosts basically get paid to act like @$$#0(3$.

> > >

> > > They tend to be socially conservative, and thus to have

> excessive

> > deference to authority to

> > > the point of practically being feudal. At least authorities

> THEY like.

> > >

> > > So here we have someone who believes what government certified

> > authorities say as

> > > gospel truth, trying to find some way to be a flaming @$$#0(3

> on the

> > air.

> > >

> > > What does he K N O W (as God given truth revealed unto him by

> > priests in white lab coats)?

> > >

> > > 1. Autism is genetic.

> > >

> > > 2. The rate at which autism has been diagnosed went up 100

fold

> in

> > the last 20 years.

> > >

> > > Since GOD told him these things (and unfortunately he doesn't

> take

> > anything like Risperdal

> > > to stop GOD from talking to him), there is only one other

> possible

> > conclusion:

> > >

> > > 99% of the diagnoses must be nonsense, or at least not

genetic!

> > >

> > > And of course D O C T O R S have P R O V E N that doctors

don't

> have

> > anything to do with

> > > causing autism (through vaccines), so what choice is left?

> > >

> > > Back to blaming the parents. And for a professional @$$#0(3

who

> is

> > talking to evil hateful

> > > spiteful people that is a great choice. NIcely inflammatory

and

> it

> > provides someone to

> > > complain about and criticize.

> > >

> > > So this makes some sense, and in his own twisted way they guy

is

> > thinking - at least as

> > > much as his seething emotions will let him.

> > >

> > > Why not challenge him and his sponsors to talk about the OTHER

> > possible theories as to

> > > what might have caused a 100 fold increase in autism?

> > >

> > > Really I have no love lost for either the general talk show

> milieu

> > or for the modern social

> > > conservative movement, so the more you can torment Mr.

Savage,

> the

> > better. However

> > > there is both an interesting lesson here in that even an @$$#0

(3

> > like him appears to be

> > > thinking about the fact that something is wrong with the

picture

> > here and in that we're

> > > moving back to blaming the parents - one of Bernie Rimland's

> great

> > contributions to

> > > autism was to exterminate the " refrigerator mother "

hypothesis.

> > >

> > > Andy

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >