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What is 's e-mail address? I went though pages of posts, and couldn't

find one from him, but found lots I never got! LOL Just in case I don't

get it.........................

THANKS JOHN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-)

Gail

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In a message dated 1/14/01 6:59:13 PM Eastern Standard Time,

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<< PS I'm learning a lot about where the US states are situated !!

>>

LOL ! That's one way to get a geography lesson! LOL I got to the data

base, but when I went to add things, it said I could not edit. LOL Maybe we

aren't supposed to add or delete? I love knowing that we can just go look

someone up there though. Now, is there a way to add a column to say whether

they have a picture in files? That would be neat to read a post and if you

can't remember who it is, just click a link in the base and see them? Why

isn't Leah, the one that runs bra-less through the streets of Virginia..LOL,

in the base? Takes me a while , as I think I make things harder than

they are, most of the time! LOL For anyone on the list who hasn't gone

there yet, GO, it is very cool! When I was first lurking, I kept a notebook

of everyone. This is much easier! Thanks again ...GOOD JOB!!!!!!!

Gail

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DEAR Gail, How MUCH simpler would you like the data base ?? :-)

The other day (ONLY Thursday )you came up with the query *How's ?*

the girl from Hawaii ! (I'm sure we'd all like to know) -- now if you

had known about the data base you could have gone there and looked for

Hawaii and found that we have only one girl there - her name is as you

almost remembered Loriann, and that her is called ectect.

However as you'd mentioned the name , Leah (she's the one that

doesn't wear a bra and runs through the streets treading in !!!) (it's

OK Leah THAT's not in the data base - yet!!) came up and said that

- who lives in Texas and has Seth was okay and very busy with her family

ectect.

What I suggest you do is to store the (at present) 4 pages in your

computer for easy access - or print them out if you want, then you will

know as I do who 's whom and where !!! :-) and don't forget if you

want another column for further information we can always add it - if

the result of the poll is favourable !!

PS I'm learning a lot about where the US states are situated !!

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<< Thanks again ...GOOD JOB!!!!!!! >>

YES !! Thanks so much. Now I can take the poll again and say that Yes,

I did indeed thank ....:)

Donna

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In a message dated 4/21/2007 3:50:49 AM Pacific Standard Time,

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Is there a simple explanation for this or is ABC and their " federal

source " wrong?

When pharmacists fill rx's they go into a data base of some kind, which the

pharmas can access, so why not the feds????

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In a message dated 4/21/2007 3:50:49 AM Pacific Standard Time,

SSRI medications writes:

Is there a simple explanation for this or is ABC and their " federal

source " wrong?

When pharmacists fill rx's they go into a data base of some kind, which the

pharmas can access, so why not the feds????

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In a message dated 4/21/2007 3:50:49 AM Pacific Standard Time,

SSRI medications writes:

Is there a simple explanation for this or is ABC and their " federal

source " wrong?

When pharmacists fill rx's they go into a data base of some kind, which the

pharmas can access, so why not the feds????

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In a message dated 4/21/2007 3:50:49 AM Pacific Standard Time,

SSRI medications writes:

Is there a simple explanation for this or is ABC and their " federal

source " wrong?

When pharmacists fill rx's they go into a data base of some kind, which the

pharmas can access, so why not the feds????

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When they passed the HIPPA laws it was a huge smoke screen. This was

during the Homeland Security Act. I know because I work with the

elderly and we collect a lot of medical data. I got a letter from my

MD asking what information I wanted shared with the insurance

company. Why? because they were forwarding all the info to a

Government data base. They came up with this bullshit about not

sharing personal info via fax, or telephone which was HIPPA. It was a

smoke screen giving the illusion that our personal information could

not be shared between providers. All the while the Government had

access to all of it. There is now a new assessment tool we use when

doing new assessemnts on the elderly. There are over 500 questions

and we have lap tops. I discovered within this assessment there was

actually two separate data bases. One was ours, and the other was for

EOEA (Executive Office Of Elder Affairs) They want every bit of

personal info on these elders down to who helps change their depends

pad, also a whole questionier on their mental status. Its like a mini

teen screen. Also there is a pop up window to list every medication

they take. When I was at the training for the new data base I asked

how do we explain to these elders that we are collecting all this

personal info on them that the Government has access to. I was

basically told to lie and say it was a secure data base. I pushed

further because this EOEA official did not answer my question. I said

that this does not mean its secure from the Government. The official

then told me that if they don't answer the questions then they can't

get services. This was a blatant lie. Now when I go to an elders home

I inform them that any information I collect is being accessed by the

Government. The consent form they sign says they have a right to what

questions they want to answer. My supervisor gets really pissed at me

because I refuse to do the psych questions, and won't put their meds

in the data base. He said that EOEA wants this info and if we get

audited they are going to ask why the info is not in there. I said

tuff. I make sure now that I write in the assessment notes that the

elder objects to the substance of the info being collected so that I

cover my butt, and thiers.

I have another elderly client who has A-Fib and refuses to take the

meds for it because of side effects. She had to have an xray on her

leg and when she went to the xray department an from the ER came in

with a heart monitor machine. She became suspicious and asked why

they wanted to put this machine on her when all she wanted was an

Xray. The RN became very authoritative and told her that she could

not leave until she had the test. Like a fool she submitted and of

course the heart beat was irregular because of the A-Fib. The elder

asked why they wanted to move her to a room in the ER. She just

wanted her X-ray and wanted to go home. The RN told her she was not

going anywhere and that she needed to be admitted. She paniced and

told them she had to use the phone to cancel her ride. Thank God I

was in the office. She was in a panic. I jumped into the car and

drove to the ER. I confronted the RN and asked how she knew the elder

had A-Fib, and what right she had to tell her she could not go home.

I knew she had a computer and she was flagged. To make a long story a

little shorter I told the RN she was leaving, that in America there

were no forced medical treatments and that she had no right to force

her to do anything. I brought her home and knew from experience that

the ER, RN would call Elder At Risk this is like DSS for elders. I

warned her she wouldhget a call, or they would just show up and to

refuse to talk with them, or let them in. They would of course do a

mental health screen on her and try to coerce her into treatment.

Sure enough I got a call from them. They wanted me to assist them in

seeing the elder. I refused and told them she was 100% competent and

had a right to refuse. So you this is what we have come to in this

country. Its no longer just about forced mental health drugging. It

has invaded all medical modaities and everything about you is in a

data base. I tried to get this elder to inquire further into what was

in the computer data base, and how this nurse had the right to access

it but she did not want to push the issue. That is what we are all up

against. So Baby Boomers beware!

Soory for the long rant.

Peggy

In SSRI medications , glitterari@... wrote:

>

>

> In a message dated 4/21/2007 3:50:49 AM Pacific Standard Time,

> SSRI medications writes:

>

>

> Is there a simple explanation for this or is ABC and their " federal

> source " wrong?

>

>

>

>

> When pharmacists fill rx's they go into a data base of some kind,

which the

> pharmas can access, so why not the feds????

>

>

>

> ************************************** See what's free at

http://www.aol.com.

>

>

>

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When they passed the HIPPA laws it was a huge smoke screen. This was

during the Homeland Security Act. I know because I work with the

elderly and we collect a lot of medical data. I got a letter from my

MD asking what information I wanted shared with the insurance

company. Why? because they were forwarding all the info to a

Government data base. They came up with this bullshit about not

sharing personal info via fax, or telephone which was HIPPA. It was a

smoke screen giving the illusion that our personal information could

not be shared between providers. All the while the Government had

access to all of it. There is now a new assessment tool we use when

doing new assessemnts on the elderly. There are over 500 questions

and we have lap tops. I discovered within this assessment there was

actually two separate data bases. One was ours, and the other was for

EOEA (Executive Office Of Elder Affairs) They want every bit of

personal info on these elders down to who helps change their depends

pad, also a whole questionier on their mental status. Its like a mini

teen screen. Also there is a pop up window to list every medication

they take. When I was at the training for the new data base I asked

how do we explain to these elders that we are collecting all this

personal info on them that the Government has access to. I was

basically told to lie and say it was a secure data base. I pushed

further because this EOEA official did not answer my question. I said

that this does not mean its secure from the Government. The official

then told me that if they don't answer the questions then they can't

get services. This was a blatant lie. Now when I go to an elders home

I inform them that any information I collect is being accessed by the

Government. The consent form they sign says they have a right to what

questions they want to answer. My supervisor gets really pissed at me

because I refuse to do the psych questions, and won't put their meds

in the data base. He said that EOEA wants this info and if we get

audited they are going to ask why the info is not in there. I said

tuff. I make sure now that I write in the assessment notes that the

elder objects to the substance of the info being collected so that I

cover my butt, and thiers.

I have another elderly client who has A-Fib and refuses to take the

meds for it because of side effects. She had to have an xray on her

leg and when she went to the xray department an from the ER came in

with a heart monitor machine. She became suspicious and asked why

they wanted to put this machine on her when all she wanted was an

Xray. The RN became very authoritative and told her that she could

not leave until she had the test. Like a fool she submitted and of

course the heart beat was irregular because of the A-Fib. The elder

asked why they wanted to move her to a room in the ER. She just

wanted her X-ray and wanted to go home. The RN told her she was not

going anywhere and that she needed to be admitted. She paniced and

told them she had to use the phone to cancel her ride. Thank God I

was in the office. She was in a panic. I jumped into the car and

drove to the ER. I confronted the RN and asked how she knew the elder

had A-Fib, and what right she had to tell her she could not go home.

I knew she had a computer and she was flagged. To make a long story a

little shorter I told the RN she was leaving, that in America there

were no forced medical treatments and that she had no right to force

her to do anything. I brought her home and knew from experience that

the ER, RN would call Elder At Risk this is like DSS for elders. I

warned her she wouldhget a call, or they would just show up and to

refuse to talk with them, or let them in. They would of course do a

mental health screen on her and try to coerce her into treatment.

Sure enough I got a call from them. They wanted me to assist them in

seeing the elder. I refused and told them she was 100% competent and

had a right to refuse. So you this is what we have come to in this

country. Its no longer just about forced mental health drugging. It

has invaded all medical modaities and everything about you is in a

data base. I tried to get this elder to inquire further into what was

in the computer data base, and how this nurse had the right to access

it but she did not want to push the issue. That is what we are all up

against. So Baby Boomers beware!

Soory for the long rant.

Peggy

In SSRI medications , glitterari@... wrote:

>

>

> In a message dated 4/21/2007 3:50:49 AM Pacific Standard Time,

> SSRI medications writes:

>

>

> Is there a simple explanation for this or is ABC and their " federal

> source " wrong?

>

>

>

>

> When pharmacists fill rx's they go into a data base of some kind,

which the

> pharmas can access, so why not the feds????

>

>

>

> ************************************** See what's free at

http://www.aol.com.

>

>

>

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When they passed the HIPPA laws it was a huge smoke screen. This was

during the Homeland Security Act. I know because I work with the

elderly and we collect a lot of medical data. I got a letter from my

MD asking what information I wanted shared with the insurance

company. Why? because they were forwarding all the info to a

Government data base. They came up with this bullshit about not

sharing personal info via fax, or telephone which was HIPPA. It was a

smoke screen giving the illusion that our personal information could

not be shared between providers. All the while the Government had

access to all of it. There is now a new assessment tool we use when

doing new assessemnts on the elderly. There are over 500 questions

and we have lap tops. I discovered within this assessment there was

actually two separate data bases. One was ours, and the other was for

EOEA (Executive Office Of Elder Affairs) They want every bit of

personal info on these elders down to who helps change their depends

pad, also a whole questionier on their mental status. Its like a mini

teen screen. Also there is a pop up window to list every medication

they take. When I was at the training for the new data base I asked

how do we explain to these elders that we are collecting all this

personal info on them that the Government has access to. I was

basically told to lie and say it was a secure data base. I pushed

further because this EOEA official did not answer my question. I said

that this does not mean its secure from the Government. The official

then told me that if they don't answer the questions then they can't

get services. This was a blatant lie. Now when I go to an elders home

I inform them that any information I collect is being accessed by the

Government. The consent form they sign says they have a right to what

questions they want to answer. My supervisor gets really pissed at me

because I refuse to do the psych questions, and won't put their meds

in the data base. He said that EOEA wants this info and if we get

audited they are going to ask why the info is not in there. I said

tuff. I make sure now that I write in the assessment notes that the

elder objects to the substance of the info being collected so that I

cover my butt, and thiers.

I have another elderly client who has A-Fib and refuses to take the

meds for it because of side effects. She had to have an xray on her

leg and when she went to the xray department an from the ER came in

with a heart monitor machine. She became suspicious and asked why

they wanted to put this machine on her when all she wanted was an

Xray. The RN became very authoritative and told her that she could

not leave until she had the test. Like a fool she submitted and of

course the heart beat was irregular because of the A-Fib. The elder

asked why they wanted to move her to a room in the ER. She just

wanted her X-ray and wanted to go home. The RN told her she was not

going anywhere and that she needed to be admitted. She paniced and

told them she had to use the phone to cancel her ride. Thank God I

was in the office. She was in a panic. I jumped into the car and

drove to the ER. I confronted the RN and asked how she knew the elder

had A-Fib, and what right she had to tell her she could not go home.

I knew she had a computer and she was flagged. To make a long story a

little shorter I told the RN she was leaving, that in America there

were no forced medical treatments and that she had no right to force

her to do anything. I brought her home and knew from experience that

the ER, RN would call Elder At Risk this is like DSS for elders. I

warned her she wouldhget a call, or they would just show up and to

refuse to talk with them, or let them in. They would of course do a

mental health screen on her and try to coerce her into treatment.

Sure enough I got a call from them. They wanted me to assist them in

seeing the elder. I refused and told them she was 100% competent and

had a right to refuse. So you this is what we have come to in this

country. Its no longer just about forced mental health drugging. It

has invaded all medical modaities and everything about you is in a

data base. I tried to get this elder to inquire further into what was

in the computer data base, and how this nurse had the right to access

it but she did not want to push the issue. That is what we are all up

against. So Baby Boomers beware!

Soory for the long rant.

Peggy

In SSRI medications , glitterari@... wrote:

>

>

> In a message dated 4/21/2007 3:50:49 AM Pacific Standard Time,

> SSRI medications writes:

>

>

> Is there a simple explanation for this or is ABC and their " federal

> source " wrong?

>

>

>

>

> When pharmacists fill rx's they go into a data base of some kind,

which the

> pharmas can access, so why not the feds????

>

>

>

> ************************************** See what's free at

http://www.aol.com.

>

>

>

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When they passed the HIPPA laws it was a huge smoke screen. This was

during the Homeland Security Act. I know because I work with the

elderly and we collect a lot of medical data. I got a letter from my

MD asking what information I wanted shared with the insurance

company. Why? because they were forwarding all the info to a

Government data base. They came up with this bullshit about not

sharing personal info via fax, or telephone which was HIPPA. It was a

smoke screen giving the illusion that our personal information could

not be shared between providers. All the while the Government had

access to all of it. There is now a new assessment tool we use when

doing new assessemnts on the elderly. There are over 500 questions

and we have lap tops. I discovered within this assessment there was

actually two separate data bases. One was ours, and the other was for

EOEA (Executive Office Of Elder Affairs) They want every bit of

personal info on these elders down to who helps change their depends

pad, also a whole questionier on their mental status. Its like a mini

teen screen. Also there is a pop up window to list every medication

they take. When I was at the training for the new data base I asked

how do we explain to these elders that we are collecting all this

personal info on them that the Government has access to. I was

basically told to lie and say it was a secure data base. I pushed

further because this EOEA official did not answer my question. I said

that this does not mean its secure from the Government. The official

then told me that if they don't answer the questions then they can't

get services. This was a blatant lie. Now when I go to an elders home

I inform them that any information I collect is being accessed by the

Government. The consent form they sign says they have a right to what

questions they want to answer. My supervisor gets really pissed at me

because I refuse to do the psych questions, and won't put their meds

in the data base. He said that EOEA wants this info and if we get

audited they are going to ask why the info is not in there. I said

tuff. I make sure now that I write in the assessment notes that the

elder objects to the substance of the info being collected so that I

cover my butt, and thiers.

I have another elderly client who has A-Fib and refuses to take the

meds for it because of side effects. She had to have an xray on her

leg and when she went to the xray department an from the ER came in

with a heart monitor machine. She became suspicious and asked why

they wanted to put this machine on her when all she wanted was an

Xray. The RN became very authoritative and told her that she could

not leave until she had the test. Like a fool she submitted and of

course the heart beat was irregular because of the A-Fib. The elder

asked why they wanted to move her to a room in the ER. She just

wanted her X-ray and wanted to go home. The RN told her she was not

going anywhere and that she needed to be admitted. She paniced and

told them she had to use the phone to cancel her ride. Thank God I

was in the office. She was in a panic. I jumped into the car and

drove to the ER. I confronted the RN and asked how she knew the elder

had A-Fib, and what right she had to tell her she could not go home.

I knew she had a computer and she was flagged. To make a long story a

little shorter I told the RN she was leaving, that in America there

were no forced medical treatments and that she had no right to force

her to do anything. I brought her home and knew from experience that

the ER, RN would call Elder At Risk this is like DSS for elders. I

warned her she wouldhget a call, or they would just show up and to

refuse to talk with them, or let them in. They would of course do a

mental health screen on her and try to coerce her into treatment.

Sure enough I got a call from them. They wanted me to assist them in

seeing the elder. I refused and told them she was 100% competent and

had a right to refuse. So you this is what we have come to in this

country. Its no longer just about forced mental health drugging. It

has invaded all medical modaities and everything about you is in a

data base. I tried to get this elder to inquire further into what was

in the computer data base, and how this nurse had the right to access

it but she did not want to push the issue. That is what we are all up

against. So Baby Boomers beware!

Soory for the long rant.

Peggy

In SSRI medications , glitterari@... wrote:

>

>

> In a message dated 4/21/2007 3:50:49 AM Pacific Standard Time,

> SSRI medications writes:

>

>

> Is there a simple explanation for this or is ABC and their " federal

> source " wrong?

>

>

>

>

> When pharmacists fill rx's they go into a data base of some kind,

which the

> pharmas can access, so why not the feds????

>

>

>

> ************************************** See what's free at

http://www.aol.com.

>

>

>

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It would be appreciated if those of you on LDN with Cancers would fill in this form, we are trying to have a place where we can store information and examine the effects of LDN - or otherwise, this is an excellent way of getting information as we can all update as we go along, I am really hopeful you will participate - www.carnebeach.com/database.html

Thank you so much

Celia

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I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it!

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