Guest guest Posted December 31, 2005 Report Share Posted December 31, 2005 Phil thanks. I waited patiently to see endo after endo only to see that nothing happens, except losing precious time in this one and only life. All the tests, numbers, I have just become more familiar with the ranges and units, but nothing realy good happened! I think its time I started working Dr.'s way. Simple as it is, strange too...if these ranges are normal, then most already have it, and then why the big buzz about this hormone field, this that and all. Ofcourse, these are new and growing areas, but the hype attached does no justice to the actual effect they have. Well, I am beginning to believe in fate more and more!! Anyway, thanks. Thanks. > Hi all > happy new year. > > Short gist from my old posts: > 1. 35 years old > 1. was taking T-shots 200 mg biweekly for 3 years, total and free T > rocketed, E also pumped up, no great effect, felt let down for long > 2. switched to another endo 3 months back. Suggested gel is better > than shots. He stopped all TRT for 6 weeks, did lab tests, and said > would see me this week, when the results are ready, and most likely > prescribe gel. > > got results yesterday: > total T - 333 (normal: 250 - 1100 ng/Dl) > free T - 78.5 (normal: 35 - 155 pg/ml) > % free T- 2.36 (normal: 1 - 3.1%) > > Now, when I was pinning all hopes to see him this week and get that > gel or whatever, I got a letter from him. Saying, .....all T levels > are normal, so no gel or shot (like just forget about it), do > another lab test 2 months from now, and will see if the results are > steady or not, and then decide what to do.... > > So, stuck. I read many times that for an age like me, T should be in > upper high normals. I got all my hopes stumped. Atleast the old one > had me on active TRT. > > Any advise is welcome. > > thanks > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2005 Report Share Posted December 31, 2005 Sam still can you tell me how you feel this low. I had bad fatigue, ED, feelings of depression, I was with family but felt alone no feelings and the anxiety was very bad. Phil Sam <m_singaram@...> wrote: Phil thanks. I waited patiently to see endo after endo only to see that nothing happens, except losing precious time in this one and only life. All the tests, numbers, I have just become more familiar with the ranges and units, but nothing realy good happened! I think its time I started working Dr.'s way. Simple as it is, strange too...if these ranges are normal, then most already have it, and then why the big buzz about this hormone field, this that and all. Ofcourse, these are new and growing areas, but the hype attached does no justice to the actual effect they have. Well, I am beginning to believe in fate more and more!! Anyway, thanks. Thanks. > Hi all > happy new year. > > Short gist from my old posts: > 1. 35 years old > 1. was taking T-shots 200 mg biweekly for 3 years, total and free T > rocketed, E also pumped up, no great effect, felt let down for long > 2. switched to another endo 3 months back. Suggested gel is better > than shots. He stopped all TRT for 6 weeks, did lab tests, and said > would see me this week, when the results are ready, and most likely > prescribe gel. > > got results yesterday: > total T - 333 (normal: 250 - 1100 ng/Dl) > free T - 78.5 (normal: 35 - 155 pg/ml) > % free T- 2.36 (normal: 1 - 3.1%) > > Now, when I was pinning all hopes to see him this week and get that > gel or whatever, I got a letter from him. Saying, .....all T levels > are normal, so no gel or shot (like just forget about it), do > another lab test 2 months from now, and will see if the results are > steady or not, and then decide what to do.... > > So, stuck. I read many times that for an age like me, T should be in > upper high normals. I got all my hopes stumped. Atleast the old one > had me on active TRT. > > Any advise is welcome. > > thanks > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2006 Report Share Posted January 2, 2006 I am on lexapro last 6 months. BUT, I am on antidepressants for long. About two decades! I had variants of SSRIs earlier (since I was not in the US then), like seroxat, clofranil (chlomipromaine), and even long back, I was taking anti-anxiety things. But for quite some time now (last 6 years), I am only on mild anti depressants. Small question - any idea about the relation between prolonged medication (that cause some drowsiness) and rings (sag) below the eyes? I actually wanted to ask everyone who is on hormone info too. Is there a connection between the hormone deficiency things and drooping eyes (like sagging eyes, rings below, etc). As a child, I never had anything like that. It has developed over the years, and before I realised, it set in. I think its the prolonged anti- depressant medication, but still not sure, that it may have something to do with my hormone levels too, since they play a role in all good & bad 'looking' things. > > > > Hi all > > > > happy new year. > > > > > > > > Short gist from my old posts: > > > > 1. 35 years old > > > > 1. was taking T-shots 200 mg biweekly for 3 years, total and > > free > > > T > > > > rocketed, E also pumped up, no great effect, felt let down for > > long > > > > 2. switched to another endo 3 months back. Suggested gel is > > better > > > > than shots. He stopped all TRT for 6 weeks, did lab tests, and > > > said > > > > would see me this week, when the results are ready, and most > > > likely > > > > prescribe gel. > > > > > > > > got results yesterday: > > > > total T - 333 (normal: 250 - 1100 ng/Dl) > > > > free T - 78.5 (normal: 35 - 155 pg/ml) > > > > % free T- 2.36 (normal: 1 - 3.1%) > > > > > > > > Now, when I was pinning all hopes to see him this week and get > > > that > > > > gel or whatever, I got a letter from him. Saying, .....all T > > > levels > > > > are normal, so no gel or shot (like just forget about it), do > > > > another lab test 2 months from now, and will see if the > results > > > are > > > > steady or not, and then decide what to do.... > > > > > > > > So, stuck. I read many times that for an age like me, T should > > be > > > in > > > > upper high normals. I got all my hopes stumped. Atleast the > old > > > one > > > > had me on active TRT. > > > > > > > > Any advise is welcome. > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2006 Report Share Posted January 2, 2006 Phil, I am in Minnesota, close to Minneapolis, MN-55369. I am paranoid, there are so many many endocrinologists, clinics around, but when 'I' go and take the treatment, it all settles down to " there is nothing wrong...just forget about it and let us call you back if at all anything.. " , after months of seeing them without any active treatment. I mean, its difficult to see into it and know whether the doc will do it or not, before spending that dreadful 3 months. But I appreciate and look forward to your help. > > > Hi all > > > happy new year. > > > > > > Short gist from my old posts: > > > 1. 35 years old > > > 1. was taking T-shots 200 mg biweekly for 3 years, total and > free > > T > > > rocketed, E also pumped up, no great effect, felt let down for > long > > > 2. switched to another endo 3 months back. Suggested gel is > better > > > than shots. He stopped all TRT for 6 weeks, did lab tests, and > > said > > > would see me this week, when the results are ready, and most > > likely > > > prescribe gel. > > > > > > got results yesterday: > > > total T - 333 (normal: 250 - 1100 ng/Dl) > > > free T - 78.5 (normal: 35 - 155 pg/ml) > > > % free T- 2.36 (normal: 1 - 3.1%) > > > > > > Now, when I was pinning all hopes to see him this week and get > > that > > > gel or whatever, I got a letter from him. Saying, .....all T > > levels > > > are normal, so no gel or shot (like just forget about it), do > > > another lab test 2 months from now, and will see if the results > > are > > > steady or not, and then decide what to do.... > > > > > > So, stuck. I read many times that for an age like me, T should > be > > in > > > upper high normals. I got all my hopes stumped. Atleast the old > > one > > > had me on active TRT. > > > > > > Any advise is welcome. > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2006 Report Share Posted January 2, 2006 Go to the files section and read " Finding a Male Hormone Doctor " . Also before you see a new one call there office and ask how many men does the Dr. treat for low T and if he checks for high E2 Estradiol and if it is high does he use Arimidex to get it down. Also ask if the Dr. treats men that are secondary with HCG. Any kind of Dr. that does this is a good one to see. Phil Sam <m_singaram@...> wrote: Phil, I am in Minnesota, close to Minneapolis, MN-55369. I am paranoid, there are so many many endocrinologists, clinics around, but when 'I' go and take the treatment, it all settles down to " there is nothing wrong...just forget about it and let us call you back if at all anything.. " , after months of seeing them without any active treatment. I mean, its difficult to see into it and know whether the doc will do it or not, before spending that dreadful 3 months. But I appreciate and look forward to your help. > > > Hi all > > > happy new year. > > > > > > Short gist from my old posts: > > > 1. 35 years old > > > 1. was taking T-shots 200 mg biweekly for 3 years, total and > free > > T > > > rocketed, E also pumped up, no great effect, felt let down for > long > > > 2. switched to another endo 3 months back. Suggested gel is > better > > > than shots. He stopped all TRT for 6 weeks, did lab tests, and > > said > > > would see me this week, when the results are ready, and most > > likely > > > prescribe gel. > > > > > > got results yesterday: > > > total T - 333 (normal: 250 - 1100 ng/Dl) > > > free T - 78.5 (normal: 35 - 155 pg/ml) > > > % free T- 2.36 (normal: 1 - 3.1%) > > > > > > Now, when I was pinning all hopes to see him this week and get > > that > > > gel or whatever, I got a letter from him. Saying, .....all T > > levels > > > are normal, so no gel or shot (like just forget about it), do > > > another lab test 2 months from now, and will see if the results > > are > > > steady or not, and then decide what to do.... > > > > > > So, stuck. I read many times that for an age like me, T should > be > > in > > > upper high normals. I got all my hopes stumped. Atleast the old > > one > > > had me on active TRT. > > > > > > Any advise is welcome. > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2006 Report Share Posted January 2, 2006 It is hard to say my wife has a bad tryroid and her eyes look like this. Phil Sam <m_singaram@...> wrote: I am on lexapro last 6 months. BUT, I am on antidepressants for long. About two decades! I had variants of SSRIs earlier (since I was not in the US then), like seroxat, clofranil (chlomipromaine), and even long back, I was taking anti-anxiety things. But for quite some time now (last 6 years), I am only on mild anti depressants. Small question - any idea about the relation between prolonged medication (that cause some drowsiness) and rings (sag) below the eyes? I actually wanted to ask everyone who is on hormone info too. Is there a connection between the hormone deficiency things and drooping eyes (like sagging eyes, rings below, etc). As a child, I never had anything like that. It has developed over the years, and before I realised, it set in. I think its the prolonged anti- depressant medication, but still not sure, that it may have something to do with my hormone levels too, since they play a role in all good & bad 'looking' things. > > > > Hi all > > > > happy new year. > > > > > > > > Short gist from my old posts: > > > > 1. 35 years old > > > > 1. was taking T-shots 200 mg biweekly for 3 years, total and > > free > > > T > > > > rocketed, E also pumped up, no great effect, felt let down for > > long > > > > 2. switched to another endo 3 months back. Suggested gel is > > better > > > > than shots. He stopped all TRT for 6 weeks, did lab tests, and > > > said > > > > would see me this week, when the results are ready, and most > > > likely > > > > prescribe gel. > > > > > > > > got results yesterday: > > > > total T - 333 (normal: 250 - 1100 ng/Dl) > > > > free T - 78.5 (normal: 35 - 155 pg/ml) > > > > % free T- 2.36 (normal: 1 - 3.1%) > > > > > > > > Now, when I was pinning all hopes to see him this week and get > > > that > > > > gel or whatever, I got a letter from him. Saying, .....all T > > > levels > > > > are normal, so no gel or shot (like just forget about it), do > > > > another lab test 2 months from now, and will see if the > results > > > are > > > > steady or not, and then decide what to do.... > > > > > > > > So, stuck. I read many times that for an age like me, T should > > be > > > in > > > > upper high normals. I got all my hopes stumped. Atleast the > old > > > one > > > > had me on active TRT. > > > > > > > > Any advise is welcome. > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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