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I know what estradol is but what is E2 and what does it do in the body?

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On Behalf Of adr_59

Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 3:45 PM

Subject: Re: My Doc must want me to become a Bodybuilder!

One more thing I wanted to add:

don't blindly trust your MD. do your own research and experimentation

with dosage. it took me about 8 months to figure the right dose

and it turned to be 8 times smaller than my then current endo

prescribed. and the bigger dose of Clomid will make your T jump up

fast, so it will convert to E2 fast and high E2 will make you dizzy.

>

> , Yep. I tried Clomid and it made me very dizzy. Doc took me

> off Clomid and put me on HCG. The HCG alone does not get my levels

> where they need to be for me to feel good. Adding the Testosterone

> (and HGH) helped.

>

>

>

> e digest everyday. I am 42, been

> > > diagnosed secondary hypo for just a year. My doc has me on

125ius of

> > > HCG daily, 10% T gel, and I added hgh about 7 weeks ago (for

just 3-

> > 6

> > > months) My wife and I are lucky to be expecting our 2nd little

boy

> > > any day or week now so the doctor and us wanted me to switch to

T

> > > shots versus the gel so as not to potentially transfer it to

the

> > baby.

> > > I see an antiaging doc because he is up on HCG and Testosterone

for

> > > TRT and I live in a fairly small town. Like many on here, the

> > regular

> > > docs I tried to see would not prescribe HCG and did not care

about

> > E2.

> > > This doc I now have knows all about it.

> > >

> > > Anyway, got my injectible testosterone via Fedex today and

wanted to

> > > get some comments from the group. The doc sent me testosterone

> > > enanthate and wants me to dose twice a week. Ok sounds good so

far

> > > right. Well its a 10ml vial of 200 mg/ml. He wants me to

do .5cc on

> > > Mondays and Thursdays. If I do my math correctly, thats

100mg/ml per

> > > dose. That sounds high to me. In fact, I thought it sounded very

> > > high. What do you all think of that dose? I am confused because

> > > many guys on here and other places like MESO have docs that

won't

> > > prescribe them enough testosterone to get their T levels up

enough.

> > I

> > > think my antiaging doc is the polar opposite. I think he wants

me to

> > > bulk up like Arnold Schwartznegger! (sp?) Also, he sent me a

bunch

> > of

> > > 3ml 20 gauge needles. I have been giving myself shots for years

when

> > > I used to give myself allergy shots years ago and I took HCG IM

for

> > > awhile to help with fertility to get me wife pregnant but that

> > needle

> > > is HUGE! LOL It makes me nervous just looking at it! Its not a

> > > syringe its a spear. I have some old 25 gauge heads I am going

to

> > use

> > > and I know a local pharmacist who will sell me some more. I

know

> > from

> > > researching that most everyone uses needles slimmer than

20gauge. I

> > > could water my lawn with these things!

> > >

> > > Anyway, does anyone want to comment on the dose. I am definitely

> > > going to start with half the dose because I want to go on this

> > slowly.

> > > So that would be 50ml. What would you all do with the dose after

> > > that? I think most guys are on 40-50ml twice a week right?

> > >

> > > Finally, I am going to take my HCG shots from 125ius everyday

to

> > twice

> > > a week at 250ius per the Crisler protocol. I guess I will do it

the

> > > day before my T shots. Any comments/advice are greatly

appreciated.

> > > thanks, Hank

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ---------------------------------

> > > How low will we go? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-

Phone

> > call rates.

> > >

> > >

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E2 is the designation for estradiol. It is one of the many estrogen molecules.

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Prunty <allen@...> wrote:

I know what estradol is but what is E2 and what does it do in the

body?

_____

From: [mailto: ]

On Behalf Of adr_59

Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 3:45 PM

Subject: Re: My Doc must want me to become a Bodybuilder!

One more thing I wanted to add:

don't blindly trust your MD. do your own research and experimentation

with dosage. it took me about 8 months to figure the right dose

and it turned to be 8 times smaller than my then current endo

prescribed. and the bigger dose of Clomid will make your T jump up

fast, so it will convert to E2 fast and high E2 will make you dizzy.

>

> , Yep. I tried Clomid and it made me very dizzy. Doc took me

> off Clomid and put me on HCG. The HCG alone does not get my levels

> where they need to be for me to feel good. Adding the Testosterone

> (and HGH) helped.

>

>

>

> e digest everyday. I am 42, been

> > > diagnosed secondary hypo for just a year. My doc has me on

125ius of

> > > HCG daily, 10% T gel, and I added hgh about 7 weeks ago (for

just 3-

> > 6

> > > months) My wife and I are lucky to be expecting our 2nd little

boy

> > > any day or week now so the doctor and us wanted me to switch to

T

> > > shots versus the gel so as not to potentially transfer it to

the

> > baby.

> > > I see an antiaging doc because he is up on HCG and Testosterone

for

> > > TRT and I live in a fairly small town. Like many on here, the

> > regular

> > > docs I tried to see would not prescribe HCG and did not care

about

> > E2.

> > > This doc I now have knows all about it.

> > >

> > > Anyway, got my injectible testosterone via Fedex today and

wanted to

> > > get some comments from the group. The doc sent me testosterone

> > > enanthate and wants me to dose twice a week. Ok sounds good so

far

> > > right. Well its a 10ml vial of 200 mg/ml. He wants me to

do .5cc on

> > > Mondays and Thursdays. If I do my math correctly, thats

100mg/ml per

> > > dose. That sounds high to me. In fact, I thought it sounded very

> > > high. What do you all think of that dose? I am confused because

> > > many guys on here and other places like MESO have docs that

won't

> > > prescribe them enough testosterone to get their T levels up

enough.

> > I

> > > think my antiaging doc is the polar opposite. I think he wants

me to

> > > bulk up like Arnold Schwartznegger! (sp?) Also, he sent me a

bunch

> > of

> > > 3ml 20 gauge needles. I have been giving myself shots for years

when

> > > I used to give myself allergy shots years ago and I took HCG IM

for

> > > awhile to help with fertility to get me wife pregnant but that

> > needle

> > > is HUGE! LOL It makes me nervous just looking at it! Its not a

> > > syringe its a spear. I have some old 25 gauge heads I am going

to

> > use

> > > and I know a local pharmacist who will sell me some more. I

know

> > from

> > > researching that most everyone uses needles slimmer than

20gauge. I

> > > could water my lawn with these things!

> > >

> > > Anyway, does anyone want to comment on the dose. I am definitely

> > > going to start with half the dose because I want to go on this

> > slowly.

> > > So that would be 50ml. What would you all do with the dose after

> > > that? I think most guys are on 40-50ml twice a week right?

> > >

> > > Finally, I am going to take my HCG shots from 125ius everyday

to

> > twice

> > > a week at 250ius per the Crisler protocol. I guess I will do it

the

> > > day before my T shots. Any comments/advice are greatly

appreciated.

> > > thanks, Hank

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ---------------------------------

> > > How low will we go? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-

Phone

> > call rates.

> > >

> > >

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