Someone told me that Androgel doesn't restore testosterone to the testes

[Guest guest]

Hello gentlemen, I've been taking Androgel 5 grams for the last few

months and haven't noticed a huge difference. My free testosterone

levels jumped a bit but not what I expected. (free testosterone: 36.9

total testosterone: 166 and 2.2.) that is from aug of this year.

Someone told me that Androgel does nothing to allow the testes to

produce sperm or hormone. It only tells the brain that the body is

making enough so the testes doesn't have too. Which for me, being I

have Testiclar Failure and Primary Hypgonadism, doesn't control the

problem of my testes not sending the message to produce sperm.

Another person told me that these herbal medications fixes that

problem and allows the testes to produce sperm while increasing

testosterone. ( DHEA, Tribulis-Terrestris, Muira-pauma, and Longjack

AKA Tongratali).

If you can share, if you read or learned about these herbal

medications working better than Androgel or injections, also have you

read about Androgel not allowing the testes to produce sperm it would

be appreciated. Thank You

[Guest guest]

Elliot and Welcome don't waste your money. If you are primary you need to

be on Androgel and tested every 4 weeks to be sure the dose is working. Can you

post you last test or was last test from Aug. If so you need more testing you

will not get your testis to make T on TRT unless you add HCG shots to your

Androgel say 250 IU's every 3 Days. This will keep your testis working the best

that they can and keep them from getting smaller. Go to this site and Read

TRT: A Recipe for Success and the HCG Update. I printed this out and showed it

to my Dr. and told him I need to try this. I started on it the first of this

yr. and now I feel the best I ever felt in the 21 yrs. on TRT.

http://www.allthingsmale.com/

Some men don't do good on the gels Androgel or Testim because the gel does not

get through the skin. If you find your one like this the try shots start on

100 mgs. of Depo T once a week.

When you get your next blood test get it in the morning before you us the gel

so you don't spike the test.

The best levels for Free and Total T are in the upper 1/3 of your labs range

for a young man. Here read this.

http://www.lef.org/protocols/prtcls-txt/t-prtcl-130.html

Make sure you have your Estradiol tested a test for men and your DHT along

with your Total and Free T.

Phil

Elliot <elliotbkr@...> wrote:

Hello gentlemen, I've been taking Androgel 5 grams for the last few

months and haven't noticed a huge difference. My free testosterone

levels jumped a bit but not what I expected. (free testosterone: 36.9

total testosterone: 166 and 2.2.) that is from aug of this year.

Someone told me that Androgel does nothing to allow the testes to

produce sperm or hormone. It only tells the brain that the body is

making enough so the testes doesn't have too. Which for me, being I

have Testiclar Failure and Primary Hypgonadism, doesn't control the

problem of my testes not sending the message to produce sperm.

Another person told me that these herbal medications fixes that

problem and allows the testes to produce sperm while increasing

testosterone. ( DHEA, Tribulis-Terrestris, Muira-pauma, and Longjack

AKA Tongratali).

If you can share, if you read or learned about these herbal

medications working better than Androgel or injections, also have you

read about Androgel not allowing the testes to produce sperm it would

be appreciated. Thank You

[Guest guest]

On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 16:19:53 -0000, you wrote:

>Someone told me that Androgel does nothing to allow the testes to

>produce sperm or hormone. It only tells the brain that the body is

>making enough so the testes doesn't have too. Which for me, being I

>have Testiclar Failure and Primary Hypgonadism, doesn't control the

>problem of my testes not sending the message to produce sperm.

How did they diagnose primary hypogonadism? Have you had a clomiphene

stimulation test? This pushes the testees to make testosterone - if

they can. this is usually the ultimate test.

As others have said don't waste money on the supplement market. It's

virtually all a sham on this front.

If fertility is import nat to you get a doctor to prescribe HCG, Human

chorionic gonadotropin. This will spur the balls to make testosterone

and save or increase fertility. (Though dosing is import nat because

it can actually burn them out, so to speak. ) But CG is the key to

fertility with TRT.

Read up and bring your doctor the studies. Search the archives here

you will find plenty.

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