RE: Estradiol Question (Progesterone)

January 19, 2006

I believe total Estrogens are also important to measure. ARe you

taking any estrogen lowering meds?

I believe your numbers look decent? What other hormones did you get

checked?

I know some people on this board use progesterone, I learned from

invest1999, that progesterone should only be added if its low, and

your DHT and estrogens are high, as its the body's natural way of

controlling DHT and Estrogens.

>

> The files section has great info on testosterone vrs age but I can't

> easily understand if my Estradiol level is good or not what with the

> labs coming up with weird " Good " ranges on so many things. Can anyone

> comment from their experience if this lab result is good, bad or ????

>

> My Doctor said that she will include Estradiol in my regular testing

> to keep an eye on it. Do you folks suggest any other hormones such as

> progesterone? Also do any of you men use Progesterone in addition to

> Testosterone?

>

> Estradiol Ultra Sens Mine=22 Lab Low=6 Lab High=50 pg/mL

>

> Thanks a lot!

>

January 19, 2006

Thanks for the feedback. I thought it was ok so I'm glad to hear it

also from you.

I had the usual bank to start with then my Doctor was doing just Total

and free after she put me on HRT. I asked her to continue doing

estrogens (And she said ok) I started using a small amount of

progesterone *I read a bit from Dr Lee that said this was helpful for

all men. One thing that I'm pondering is this.

If the Testes create most of the male progesterone and HRT shuts down

the testes wouldn't I want to add that? or??? Am I an idiot? My

Doctor said she can't recommend Progesterone as there are too many

questions about it.

She didn't say STOP but she is not a fan. So, I'm wondering if that

is good or bad and what others have read and or learned.

Thanks!

> >

> > The files section has great info on testosterone vrs age but I can't

> > easily understand if my Estradiol level is good or not what with the

> > labs coming up with weird " Good " ranges on so many things. Can anyone

> > comment from their experience if this lab result is good, bad or ????

> >

> > My Doctor said that she will include Estradiol in my regular testing

> > to keep an eye on it. Do you folks suggest any other hormones such as

> > progesterone? Also do any of you men use Progesterone in addition to

> > Testosterone?

> >

> > Estradiol Ultra Sens Mine=22 Lab Low=6 Lab High=50 pg/mL

> >

> > Thanks a lot!

> >

>

January 19, 2006

Oh, and I forget to answer your question. No, I'm not taking anything

to dial down the estrogens (other than Progesterone I guess) At least

no Amiridex etc.

> >

> > The files section has great info on testosterone vrs age but I can't

> > easily understand if my Estradiol level is good or not what with the

> > labs coming up with weird " Good " ranges on so many things. Can anyone

> > comment from their experience if this lab result is good, bad or ????

> >

> > My Doctor said that she will include Estradiol in my regular testing

> > to keep an eye on it. Do you folks suggest any other hormones such as

> > progesterone? Also do any of you men use Progesterone in addition to

> > Testosterone?

> >

> > Estradiol Ultra Sens Mine=22 Lab Low=6 Lab High=50 pg/mL

> >

> > Thanks a lot!

> >

>

January 19, 2006

You Estradiol level is dam good it should be for a man any age 10 to 30 best

at 20 for me. Your Total and Free T levels should be in the upper 1/3 of your

labs range for a young man. Here read this link it is all in here. I don't buy

anything from LEF but find this to be a good read.

http://www.lef.org/protocols/prtcls-txt/t-prtcl-130.html

Phil

james186282 <pillow@...> wrote:

The files section has great info on testosterone vrs age but I can't

easily understand if my Estradiol level is good or not what with the

labs coming up with weird " Good " ranges on so many things. Can anyone

comment from their experience if this lab result is good, bad or ????

My Doctor said that she will include Estradiol in my regular testing

to keep an eye on it. Do you folks suggest any other hormones such as

progesterone? Also do any of you men use Progesterone in addition to

Testosterone?

Estradiol Ultra Sens Mine=22 Lab Low=6 Lab High=50 pg/mL

Thanks a lot!

January 19, 2006

Dr. feels men don't need progesterone if drivers up your E2 and E's.

Phil

james186282 <pillow@...> wrote:

Thanks for the feedback. I thought it was ok so I'm glad to hear it

also from you.

I had the usual bank to start with then my Doctor was doing just Total

and free after she put me on HRT. I asked her to continue doing

estrogens (And she said ok) I started using a small amount of

progesterone *I read a bit from Dr Lee that said this was helpful for

all men. One thing that I'm pondering is this.

If the Testes create most of the male progesterone and HRT shuts down

the testes wouldn't I want to add that? or??? Am I an idiot? My

Doctor said she can't recommend Progesterone as there are too many

questions about it.

She didn't say STOP but she is not a fan. So, I'm wondering if that

is good or bad and what others have read and or learned.

Thanks!

> >

> > The files section has great info on testosterone vrs age but I can't

> > easily understand if my Estradiol level is good or not what with the

> > labs coming up with weird " Good " ranges on so many things. Can anyone

> > comment from their experience if this lab result is good, bad or ????

> >

> > My Doctor said that she will include Estradiol in my regular testing

> > to keep an eye on it. Do you folks suggest any other hormones such as

> > progesterone? Also do any of you men use Progesterone in addition to

> > Testosterone?

> >

> > Estradiol Ultra Sens Mine=22 Lab Low=6 Lab High=50 pg/mL

> >

> > Thanks a lot!

> >

>

January 22, 2006

Hi Phil:

You have a very interesting link. They sure put everything in plain

english which is a plus. My last test with using 7.5 gm of Androgel is

Free Testosterone 8.9 mine *Labs info is 8 low to 30ng/dL High.

This lab thinks I'm in range. However the link you gave me said

" optimal free testosterone levels should be between 21-26.5

nanogram/dL in aging men. "

Crap!

I'm not even CLOSE! My doctor told me that she thought injectables

would be best but that Androgel would " probably " be ok. When I opted

for that she said " It doesn't work with some men. " I guess I'm some

men? I've been bumped up to 10 gm but this is the max. I go for new

labs in a few days. Other than Estrodiol, Testosterone are there

other tests you guys would ask for that might help me craft my future

treatment? AND if I beg to go on HCG (or clomid) will that combine

with Androgel to bump these sick looking numbers up? I know someone

told me this before but what is a good dose sked for injectables? I

know that 4 weeks will put me on the insane clown posse roller coaster

ride to hell. Is 2 week intervals good? What dose do you use that

works for that?

Sorry to pester you all with these lame-o questions again. I had

hoped I was all squared away but I guess not!

BTW - One of my Emailing friends told me Progesterone knocks down

Testosterone levels? I can't find any data on that. Is it true? I

think I'll do away with that until my next labs to see if it works.

> The files section has great info on testosterone vrs age but I can't

> easily understand if my Estradiol level is good or not what with the

> labs coming up with weird " Good " ranges on so many things. Can anyone

> comment from their experience if this lab result is good, bad or ????

>

> My Doctor said that she will include Estradiol in my regular testing

> to keep an eye on it. Do you folks suggest any other hormones such as

> progesterone? Also do any of you men use Progesterone in addition to

> Testosterone?

>

> Estradiol Ultra Sens Mine=22 Lab Low=6 Lab High=50 pg/mL

>

> Thanks a lot!

>

January 22, 2006

you can add HCG to the gels your doing a 250IU shot every 3 days will make

you feel better and bring up you T levels both Total and Free how much I can't

say. I am primary and my levels doubled. Clomid is not a good med to take long

term. Go to www.allthingsmail.com and read TRT: A Recipe for Success and the

HCG Update. I showed this to my Dr. and told him I need to try this on yr. ago.

He said ok and after being on TRT for over 21 yrs. and not feeling 100% I now

feel my best ever on TRT.