Guest guest Posted July 27, 1999 Report Share Posted July 27, 1999 Vilik, That is bass ackwards, and surely you know it! Are you stirring the pot from boredom again? Surely you've seen enough of the oxy dialogues to know better. IMO, nonsense! Saul! 'splain to them! jim Vilik Rapheles wrote: > From: Vilik Rapheles <vilik@...> > > Picked this up on another list. I know this will get some good response > here. What do you say? > > ~^^V^^~ > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Cancer cells require much oxygen, more than a cell under control. > Excess oxygen in the body has been pointed out as a cause of promoting > cancer development. The excess oxygen is usually in the form of oxygen > radicals such as O3 and H2O2, both of which have been identified as > *promoters* of cancers. Cancer cells even turn on genes that cause extra > blood capillaries to develop and supply them, the cancer cells, with > more oxygen. Cancer cell physiology is very interesting and surprising. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > --------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 1999 Report Share Posted July 27, 1999 Dear Vilik, That is the exact opposite of every other data that I have ever seen. Cancer tumors grow more blood vessels in order to get more sugar. They need more sugar because they ferment their sugar, and produce only 1/20 the amount of ATP from it, (compared to oxidation of sugar by good cells), so they are chronically starved for more energy to support their wild reproduction. As soon as ROS (reactive oxygen species) are introduced, cancer cells begin to die en masse, because in their weakened energy state, they can produce few of the cell enzymes that protect good cells against oxidative damage, namely glutathione peroxidase, superoxide dismutase, catalase and reductase. This is why ozone therapy is so effective against cancer. When combined with hyperthermia in a steam sauna, it provides the best protocol for dealing with cancer (coupled with nutrition). Best of Health! Saul Pressman URL: http://www.plasmafire.com email: saul@... Join our mailing list and learn about ozone therapy at: /subscribe/ozonetherapy Oxygen and cancer >From: Vilik Rapheles <vilik@...> > >Picked this up on another list. I know this will get some good response >here. What do you say? > >~^^V^^~ >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Cancer cells require much oxygen, more than a cell under control. >Excess oxygen in the body has been pointed out as a cause of promoting >cancer development. The excess oxygen is usually in the form of oxygen >radicals such as O3 and H2O2, both of which have been identified as >*promoters* of cancers. Cancer cells even turn on genes that cause extra >blood capillaries to develop and supply them, the cancer cells, with >more oxygen. Cancer cell physiology is very interesting and surprising. >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > >--------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 1999 Report Share Posted July 27, 1999 Everyone has a theory. cells require much oxygen, more than a cell under control. --------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 1999 Report Share Posted July 27, 1999 > From: Vilik Rapheles <vilik@...> > > Who...ME....?...(looking over shoulder, looking back with large, incredulous and INNOCENT eyes.) It's a good act, sweetheart, but I'm not buyin' it! ;-) > Yes, someone please 'splain. I do not understand, actually, (but I am > sure that is just my oxygen-starved brain.) I sure don't understand enough > to tell anyone else. Why do cancers often form an extra blood supply if > they are not using oxygen? There is a famous scientits, Warburg? or something like that, who was awarded his first nobel prize, in the 30's or 40', for showing that almost all cancer is anaerobic! How can they possibly then be enriched by oxygen? I have been told there is an interstitial form of cancer, between cells, that is aerobic, but is also one of the rarest forms of cancer, not what people are dealing with. Get out of that " flat-world " boat, Vilik, or you're going to fall out when it goes over the edge. ;-)) jim -- jim@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience http://www.entrance.to/poetry The biggest difference between genius & stupidity is that genius has its limits. -- anony amicus certus in re incerta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 I do a lot of computer networking for Doc and Dentist and we share e-mails some good some not worth sharing. I thought this might be one to share with the group. Steve http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1203600/Injecting-oxygen-cancerous-tum\ ours-improves-chances-recovery.html#ixzz0MvLyW8Gu www.dailymail.co.uk Sunday, Aug 02 2009 Why injecting oxygen into tumours 'can kill cancer' By Tamara Cohen Injecting oxygen into cancerous tumours significantly boosts the chances of recovery, a ground-breaking study has revealed. Scientists at Oxford University found slightly increasing the supply strengthened blood vessels in cancer cells, making chemotherapy more effective. Cells which are damaged and weak had a constricted oxygen supply and were less sensitive to radiotherapy treatments, in a series of experiments on mice. The team behind the breakthrough hailed it as an 'exciting' development which would allow drugs to 'soften up' tumours before they are targeted with strong treatments. Professor Gillies McKenna, director of the UK-MRC Gray Institute for Radiation Oncology & Biology, said: 'We are very excited to have uncovered this brand new approach to cancer treatment where the drugs prime the cancer cells for radiotherapy. Scientists had previously tried to starve tumours of oxygen, believing a more stable blood supply would only help the cancer spread. 'You might expect that by increasing an oxygen supply to tumour cells you would help them grow. But actually by oxygenating the cell with a better blood supply we enable radiotherapy and chemotherapy to do a better job of killing them.' The research is published today in the journal Cancer Today and includes tests on breast, head and neck cancers as well as carcinomas on the skin and major organs. Scientists tested the effects of four drugs which are in clinical use or under development for cancer therapy. The drugs were given to the mice at doses which did not alter tumour growth but the effects of the drugs acted to increase the blood supply to the tumours. An early trial in human patients with pancreatic cancer, which is notoriously difficult to treat has also been positive, Professor McKenna said. He added: 'Previous work by our group had shown that treatment with some of these types of drugs could improve radiotherapy, but it was not understood how. Now with the new understanding, strategies could be developed to use these drugs to 'soften up' tumour cells before treating them with radiotherapy.' Dr Lesley , Cancer Research UK's director of cancer information, said: 'For a long time scientists have been looking for ways to boost the oxygen supply to tumours to improve response to treatment and make radiotherapy even more effective. We still need to do more work on this technique but boosting the effects of radiotherapy and chemotherapy are very exciting developments that hold real potential for use in patients.' -- Steve Full Spectrum, Inc Cell 662-415-0121 Ofc 662-396-4824 alex4500@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 Simple rule is cancer can not survive in alkaline environment which oxygen does increase, but too much oxyggen can also promote it as well. > > I do a lot of computer networking for Doc and Dentist and we share e-mails > some good some not worth sharing. I thought this might be one to share with > the group. > > Steve > > > > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1203600/Injecting-oxygen-cancerous-tum\ ours-improves-chances-recovery.html#ixzz0MvLyW8Gu > > www.dailymail.co.uk > > Sunday, Aug 02 2009 > Why injecting oxygen into tumours 'can kill cancer' > By Tamara Cohen > > Injecting oxygen into cancerous tumours significantly boosts the chances of > recovery, a ground-breaking study has revealed. Scientists at Oxford > University found slightly increasing the supply strengthened blood vessels > in cancer cells, making chemotherapy more effective. Cells which are damaged > and weak had a constricted oxygen supply and were less sensitive to > radiotherapy treatments, in a series of experiments on mice. > > The team behind the breakthrough hailed it as an 'exciting' development > which would allow drugs to 'soften up' tumours before they are targeted with > strong treatments. Professor Gillies McKenna, director of the UK-MRC Gray > Institute for Radiation Oncology & Biology, said: 'We are very excited to > have uncovered this brand new approach to cancer treatment where the drugs > prime the cancer cells for radiotherapy. > > Scientists had previously tried to starve tumours of oxygen, believing a > more stable blood supply would only help the cancer spread. 'You might > expect that by increasing an oxygen supply to tumour cells you would help > them grow. But actually by oxygenating the cell with a better blood supply > we enable radiotherapy and chemotherapy to do a better job of killing them.' > > The research is published today in the journal Cancer Today and includes > tests on breast, head and neck cancers as well as carcinomas on the skin and > major organs. Scientists tested the effects of four drugs which are in > clinical use or under development for cancer therapy. The drugs were given > to the mice at doses which did not alter tumour growth but the effects of > the drugs acted to increase the blood supply to the tumours. > > An early trial in human patients with pancreatic cancer, which is > notoriously difficult to treat has also been positive, Professor McKenna > said. He added: 'Previous work by our group had shown that treatment with > some of these types of drugs could improve radiotherapy, but it was not > understood how. Now with the new understanding, strategies could be > developed to use these drugs to 'soften up' tumour cells before treating > them with radiotherapy.' > > Dr Lesley , Cancer Research UK's director of cancer information, said: > 'For a long time scientists have been looking for ways to boost the oxygen > supply to tumours to improve response to treatment and make radiotherapy > even more effective. We still need to do more work on this technique but > boosting the effects of radiotherapy and chemotherapy are very exciting > developments that hold real potential for use in patients.' > > > > > > -- > Steve > Full Spectrum, Inc > Cell 662-415-0121 > Ofc 662-396-4824 > alex4500@... > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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